In Short, Maidana Has No Shot Against Mayweather

BY Frank Lotierzo ON February 26, 2014
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On May 3rd, welterweight Floyd Mayweather, boxing's best pound for pound fighter, will fight Marcos Maidana 35-3 (32).

Maidana is coming off the biggest win of his career, having defeated the unbeaten at the time and budding superstar Adrien Broner this past December. The flashy Broner, who was hoping to become the top draw and fighter in boxing once Mayweather exited, wilted under Maidana's power and pressure. Maidana, who is really a junior welterweight, found a home for his looping right hands and left hooks repeatedly during the bout. And so it was that the first time he was really tested and met with stern resistance in his 27 fight career, Adrien came up short and was beaten soundly.

As for Maidana, he's being rewarded for his great showing and is getting to fight Floyd Mayweather, which will result in the biggest payday of his career. That's great for him because he deserves every cent he will be paid. Marcos has been a willing and entertaining fighter his entire career and represents a lot of what's good in professional boxing. That being said, he has no shot to beat Mayweather and I'll be shocked if he wins more than a single round of the 12 that I anticipate the fight will go.

There will never be an iota of drama in this bout as to who will win, it will be a conclusive boxing lesson administered to Maidana by Mayweather from start to finish. If you are hoping to see drama or an upset, keep going, because there's nothing to see here.

Once the fight starts it will be obvious that Maidana is too crude and not physically strong enough to make Mayweather uncomfortable or do a single thing he doesn't want to do. The worse type of fighter to try and challenge Mayweather is a fighter like Maidana, who is a small guy who fights like a big guy. Mayweather's physical strength and great defense and punch anticipation will enable him to blunt and nullify Maidana's looping big shots. Not only will Mayweather see everything Maidana throws at him before it arrives, he'll get there first with his straight one-twos and disrupt any momentum and power on his punches. When that starts to happen and Maidana is knocked out of punching range, then what?

Mayweather has faced fighters his entire career who have tried to bring it to him, and only one, Jose Luis Castillo, legitimately beat him, the first time they fought, though he didn't get the decision he earned. In the rematch Floyd was more assertive and won the fight without anyone questioning the decision afterward. Mayweather has already handled two fighters in his last three fights, Miguel Cotto and Saul Alvarez, who were more of a physical threat to him than Maidana. And yet when Floyd held his ground and didn't move, he out-fought them 90% of the time from the waist up. And neither Cotto or Alvarez load up or loop their punches nearly as much as Maidana does. Translation being - Maidana's punches will be easier for him to pick off and avoid.

It should also be noted that as good as Adrien Broner looked on the way up, he was never tested and he was also fighting above his best weight when he and Maidana fought as welterweights. Mayweather is much more of an elite pro than Broner and forgot more in his sleep last night about boxing than Broner will be around long- enough to know. Unlike Broner, Mayweather won't fold and look for a way out the first time, if it happens, that he's nailed with a big shot that gets the crowd going. No, he'll regroup and switch to something else if Maidana is having a morsel of success. That you can count on.

The sad truth is Maidana, who will no doubt be trying as hard as he can with everything he has from bell-to-bell, doesn't have the right style or the physicality to compete with Mayweather. Another thing going against Maidana is he can't change a bit. He knows he has to win via stoppage or there's no chance of him pulling off the upset, none. So what does that leave? If he doesn't force the fight he'll not land a single punch on Mayweather and it's not like he can try and counter Floyd because he doesn't have the speed or skill to do it. His only option is to bring the pressure and try to land a lottery punch, that's it.

The one thing that is often missed about Floyd Mayweather the fighter is, he's really matured physically and is a very strong welterweight. He isn't a great puncher, but he punches plenty hard enough to control and tame his opponents at 147 to the point to where he can steer them to where he wants them. His legs are strong and even when he's hit flush, he seldom loses his footing or balance. He also understands that straight pinpoint punches, like the lefts and rights he throws, beat looping punches to their target, especially as quick as he gets them off. Once Maidana is fed a steady diet of that he'll soon realize that there's gotta be another way, only there isn't. That's what he's done from day one and he can't change. He'll be stuck knowing that he will need to land a lottery punch to win, only the number will never come up.

Mayweather will jog to an easy victory over Maidana, who is too small and is perfect for him stylistically to dismantle. The only bet that should be posted for this fight is - "Will Maidana win more than a single round?" I say yes, he'll win one round while Mayweather is looking him over.

Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com

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leon30001 says:

There's nothing here to disagree with at all. Floyd IS physically strong at welter, he WILL box Maidana's *** off, and it WILL be a procession with a distinct lack of drama. But! People will STILL buy it, because they think watching boring clinic after boring clinic has some sort of intellectual cache, and makes them appear to be connoisseurs of the sweet science. They also think by lining Floyd's pockets, thereby advocating his mismatches, they somehow share in his success. People are strange!

SouthPawFlo says:

Maidana has power in both hands, and Floyd isn't "unhittable" so I wouldn't say he has 0 chance...


Floyd also just turned 37 and he's been fighting more frequently so them rounds of sparring might finally slow his reflexes down just enough to make things interesting.

leon30001 says:

You're right it's not "0"...Douglas beat Iron Mike etc etc etc. But it's near zero; and to win a decision for Marcos...THAT is a zero, near as damnit!

Radam G says:

Long, medium or short, Maidana is going to get his arse tore up. He does have a shot, though -- SUPER SLIM and ZERO. And I just saw ZERO gundown SUPER SLIM. Somebody call da cops. Shame on Money May's pops.

Pops Joy May needs to stop fighting his son against no chancers. And then claiming that his son is one of boksing's greatest-of-all-times dancers.

The FBI, Army Intelligence, NSI, DIA and the CIA ought to conduct investigation on Fam May for perpetrating a FRAUD to know-nothing PPV consumers. Hehehehe! Holla!

SouthPawFlo says:

Did anybody really think Khan had a shot at winning a decision either????

Carmine Cas says:

I agree with the author, Maidana is pretty much tailor made for Floyd and is going to be schooled. But never say never lol, and Maidana does deserve this payday, he is everything that's good about boxing.

Robert Garcia is going to have a couple things up his sleeve, one thing Amayseng said on another article, bring out that agility ladder. I totally agree, he can make up a little for his speed deficiency if he increases his foot speed. That looping overhand right and the jab can still work for El Chino if he puts more zip on his punches and disguises them.

I do agree though, people like to say Floyd is small and weak at 147, that's completely false.

But one things for sure, I am not paying $70 for that ppv (nor have I) and I hope majority of people do not so CBS lights a fire under lil Floyd's arse

amayseng says:

Who in the world (besides Bsug) is buying this 75$ ppv???

Ok if you are having a fight party with 10 plus people I get it.

Otherwise I just dont know how this sells and Floyd makes 40 million a fight when there are 3 other guys out there people would rather see who are better and Floyd wont even attempt to negotiate with them.

It is crazy

The Good Doctor says:

Did anybody really think Khan had a shot at winning a decision either????


Anyone with decent boxing knowledge would say no. However, between the two, I think people thought Khan had a better shot, albeit slim, at it than Maidana

Radam G says:

NO! But he would have had a better fight with Money May than Marcos Polo -- I mean Maidana -- will. And Money May would have gotten more money. Even more than he got for fighting the red-headed superhype.

Don't believe the hype and set ups. The reason that reports of Money May breaking all the PPV records were RIGHT, but not because of a PPV viewing audience, but because of Mexican-Lebanese billionaire Carlos Slim -- who's a fat cat with the moolah and @$$. Hehehehe! He bought a lot of PPV slots to ensure what happened happen. [The game is seedy, shady and sleazy and full of optical illusions with side show that you will never know.]

Carlos Slim -- worth $45bil of known revenue and probably double that in hidden jive -- was the man behind the curtain working the money stash with The Shadow Al Hyman. The game is full of optical illusions -- even BIG money ones. [Follow the money-brick road. Hehehe!]

And if Money May would have selected to dance with Amir Khan, the moolah and the set up of making the PPV BIG would have been even BIGGER. Some sheikhs, amirs, kings, emperors and maharajahs were going to get straight-up MEAN with da moolah. But Fam May and ____ _____ weaseled out. Paranoid bytches!

Nothing is never as it seems with big-money boksing. Holla!

Carmine Cas says:

NO! But he would have had a better fight with Money May than Marcos Polo -- I mean Maidana -- will. And Money May would have gotten more money. Even more than he got for fighting the red-headed superhype.

Don't believe the hype and set ups. The reason that reports of Money May breaking all the PPV records were RIGHT, but not because of a PPV viewing audience, but because of Mexican-Lebanese billionaire Carlos Slim -- who's a fat cat with the moolah and @$$. Hehehehe! He bought a lot of PPV slots to ensure what happened happen. [The game is seedy, shady and sleazy and full of optical illusions with side show that you will never know.]

Carlos Slim -- worth $45bil of known revenue and probably double that in hidden jive -- was the man behind the curtain working the money stash with The Shadow Al Hyman. The game is full of optical illusions -- even BIG money ones. [Follow the money-brick road. Hehehe!]

And if Money May would have selected to dance with Amir Khan, the moolah and the set up of making the PPV BIG would have been even BIGGER. Some sheikhs, amirs, kings, emperors and maharajahs were going to get straight-up MEAN with da moolah. But Fam May and ____ _____ weaseled out. Paranoid bytches!

Nothing is never as it seems with big-money boksing. Holla!


Yeah that definitely makes sense, that dude Carlos related to the Sulimans?

Amir Khan would definitely made more of an interesting fight.

Carmine Cas says:

NO! But he would have had a better fight with Money May than Marcos Polo -- I mean Maidana -- will. And Money May would have gotten more money. Even more than he got for fighting the red-headed superhype.

Don't believe the hype and set ups. The reason that reports of Money May breaking all the PPV records were RIGHT, but not because of a PPV viewing audience, but because of Mexican-Lebanese billionaire Carlos Slim -- who's a fat cat with the moolah and @$$. Hehehehe! He bought a lot of PPV slots to ensure what happened happen. [The game is seedy, shady and sleazy and full of optical illusions with side show that you will never know.]

Carlos Slim -- worth $45bil of known revenue and probably double that in hidden jive -- was the man behind the curtain working the money stash with The Shadow Al Hyman. The game is full of optical illusions -- even BIG money ones. [Follow the money-brick road. Hehehe!]

And if Money May would have selected to dance with Amir Khan, the moolah and the set up of making the PPV BIG would have been even BIGGER. Some sheikhs, amirs, kings, emperors and maharajahs were going to get straight-up MEAN with da moolah. But Fam May and ____ _____ weaseled out. Paranoid bytches!

Nothing is never as it seems with big-money boksing. Holla!


Yeah that definitely makes sense, that dude Carlos related to the Sulimans?

Amir Khan would definitely made more of an interesting fight.

Radam G says:

Of course! Carlos Slim is a relative of the Sulaimans. They all came from Lebanon and Syria and are running syet in Mexico and Latin American. Holla!

Carmine Cas says:

Who in the world (besides Bsug) is buying this 75$ ppv???

Ok if you are having a fight party with 10 plus people I get it.

Otherwise I just dont know how this sells and Floyd makes 40 million a fight when there are 3 other guys out there people would rather see who are better and Floyd wont even attempt to negotiate with them.

It is crazy


Yeah it is crazy, but casual fans who are not too educated with the sport will purchase it maybe. As radam says, the fanarodes and fanboys. The people who love Mayweather because of his image

SouthPawFlo says:

I'm definitely paying for it, I haven't missed a Floyd Fight in over a decade!!!



Y'all talking like Floyd for 4 arms and Maidana has 2, this is A fight, who the hell knows what's gonna happen in a fight...

Floyd could get caught like he did against Sugar Shane, or be in a Dogfight like with Cotto, or something wild can happen like with V. Ortiz.

Maidana has no quit in him, he'll put on a better fight than Canelo that's for sure....


I can't wait to see what unfolds....

deepwater2 says:

Number one boycott paying for this fight , Floyd should be fighting pacman period . Number two Floyd ruined every fight party I had since he fought hatton . Number 3 I lost a lot of money betting on fights like this when the underdog had no shot . Examples : mm vs Forman , Frankie randel vs Chavez , Hopkins Trinidad , Lewis Rahman , Holyfield Tyson ect ect . Maidana earned the fight and has a small chance . He hits like a mule , great stamina , great chin , great recuperation after being hurt . I won't bet against him . Floyd will probably be safety first but when he uses the illegal elbow I bet you maidana will have a plan for it .

amayseng says:

If Chino and his corner are smart they just stay away from the head and go to the body and back all night.

if floyd wants to turn and bend that is his fault. i have said for years shoot a body jab and step or angle to the right and beat his side and back up. he cant return that right hand off the roll if you are over there as well.

now can you do this all round? no. but i would not initiate until i was where i wanted to be and in that position. if i am not there then i am not engaging and i am not letting floyd engage.

i would make it the most boring fight ever but i promise you one thing my 8 spurts of 4 body punches per round would be more than floyds single right hands here and there because i wouldnt be anywhere near where floyd wanted me. you have to find a fighter so damn stubborn he can pull this off. see Rigo, he doesnt care to stink out the joint, he fights when he wants to, engages when he wants to otherwise he isnt anywhere near that pocket...


long story short i am with Deep, boycott. I wont give floyd money for him to get 40 mil to duck Pac

i wont support it

stormcentre says:

No shot whatsoever.

Imagine Maidaina in with Alvarez.

Nuff said.

This is easy money for Floyd and probably Marcos

stormcentre says:

No shot whatsoever.

Imagine Maidaina in with Alvarez.

Nuff said.

This is easy money for Floyd and probably Marcos

stormcentre says:

Still, I suppose that shows how good Mayweather is.

After all, he’s really a welterweight and there doesn’t seem to be anyone out there that can beat him at this weight.

Obviously little bro is not screaming about his chance to avenge the Maidaina loss being pushed back (or even forgotten).

I wonder if Mayweather will try and issue a beat down for Marcos flogging Mr. HBO or whatever his hair-brushing alias is.

Maidaina is a fighter not (really) a boxer.

Toughness only gets you so far in this game.

He has never seen the traps that Floyd will set, let alone experienced being baited for them in front of audiences this big.

stormcentre says:

Still, I suppose that shows how good Mayweather is.

After all, he’s really a welterweight and there doesn’t seem to be anyone out there that can beat him at this weight.

Obviously little bro is not screaming about his chance to avenge the Maidaina loss being pushed back (or even forgotten).

I wonder if Mayweather will try and issue a beat down for Marcos flogging Mr. HBO or whatever his hair-brushing alias is.

Maidaina is a fighter not (really) a boxer.

Toughness only gets you so far in this game.

He has never seen the traps that Floyd will set, let alone experienced being baited for them in front of audiences this big.

amayseng says:

Still, I suppose that shows how good Mayweather is.

After all, he’s really a welterweight and there doesn’t seem to be anyone out there that can beat him at this weight.

Obviously little bro is not screaming about his chance to avenge the Maidaina loss being pushed back (or even forgotten).

I wonder if Mayweather will try and issue a beat down for Marcos flogging Mr. HBO or whatever his hair-brushing alias is.

Maidaina is a fighter not (really) a boxer.

Toughness only gets you so far in this game.

He has never seen the traps that Floyd will set, let alone experienced being baited for them in front of audiences this big.


He is definitely a great fighter and even at 36 what he did to Canelo was purely embarrassing. I am not made like that I would have had to go out on my shield like Hatton giving it my all as opposed to what Canelo did acting like he was getting punched by Mike Tyson. I have lost respect for Canelo and maybe that is my fault for having high expectations of him. Dont get me wrong I expected Floyd to box his ears off but Canelos lack of effort and/or spirit was a joke. He doesnt deserve ppv money after that lack of heart. however supply and demand may prove me wrong.

Yes Floyd is still fantastic and I really enjoyed what he offered offensively in the Cotto fight. He has no right picking on inferior opponents when there is better talent out there...PAC, Sergio and Cotto rematch.

SouthPawFlo says:

Ok other than Maidana, what other welterweight in the Golden Boy Stable deserves a title shot and a Jackpot Payment of fighting Mayweather???


Exclude Top Rank Guys, (Bradley, Rios, PAC, Providnikov)
Exclude big guys

brownsugar says:

Who in the world (besides Bsug) is buying this 75$ ppv???

Ok if you are having a fight party with 10 plus people I get it.

Otherwise I just dont know how this sells and Floyd makes 40 million a fight when there are 3 other guys out there people would rather see who are better and Floyd wont even attempt to negotiate with them.

It is crazy


Thanks for comment Amayseng....

Right now we're at an impasse because 2 of my peeps want to host the fight and a venue hasn't been formalized yet.. Which is cool because I'm tired of looking at my place.

No matter where the fight is, the format is always the same and everybody knows the drill

The Pundits... Which include the experts and anyone who has boxed before and/or have watched boxing matches for over 20 years get the best seats so they can discuss the fight in an intelligent manner that the casual fans will have NO way of comprehending.

Casual fans like myself will be seated approximately 12 -15 ft from the main flat screen as to not disturb the Pundits with our noob conversation. Plus we wouldn't know what we are watching anyway without their guidance...... in addition to the fact we are prone to start off-topic conversations about life that wouldn't be welcomed by the hardcore fans.

The single ladies will be seated by the bar ...so they don't have to go a long way to refresh their drinks while they discuss what the fighters girl friends are wearing. While The fat girls will be seated by the kitchen for obvious reasons.

The white guys... Puerto Ricans and Mexicans are seated in their own area because they are prone to behave boisterously like yelling when punches are landed, spilling an occassional drink, and generally having a good time which usually filters out to the rest of the group. But to insure the safety of the other party goers...we give those guys their own space.

The lone Asian dude and his date can sit where ever they want because he is relatively quiet and respectful...and knowledgeable.

Alright .... I made that up...but we have had a few parties just like that...

Floyd's fight is just the catalyst... After the fight the party takes on a unique life of its own.
I've never had a Mayweather fight party that ended up a dud..

I have had folks curse me for inviting them to see a Kitschko fight and leave after 3 rounds.
I had folks go to sleep watching Paq pot-shot some plodding slow-footed schmuck for 12 rounds.
But Everybody watches the beginning of a Mayweather fight to see his grand entrance ... and the ending in case he has another Larry Merchant moment... The kids will even stop playing video games in the back room to catch it.

Floyd is one of the few fighters left who channels the old school perfection exhibited by the greats from the golden Era when the four Kings reigned.

There is no discussion about the empty unsold seats ... His bank account, PPV totals or his place in history. We let Floyd worry about that.....Afterwards The party simply transitions to the next phase.

And the next day there no regrets.

Except the time I forgot to tell one of the guests where to park and had to pay the Tow Truck $50 to drop the hook. Lol....
If anyone was offended by my lite racial profiling I'll issue a formal apology after the fight.

amayseng says:

Thanks for comment Amayseng....

Right now we're at an impasse because 2 of my peeps want to host the fight and a venue hasn't been formalized yet.. Which is cool because I'm tired of looking at my place.

No matter where the fight is, the format is always the same and everybody knows the drill

The Pundits... Which include the experts and anyone who has boxed before and/or have watched boxing matches for over 20 years get the best seats so they can discuss the fight in an intelligent manner that the casual fans will have NO way of comprehending.

Casual fans like myself will be seated approximately 12 -15 ft from the main flat screen as to not disturb the Pundits with our noob conversation. Plus we wouldn't know what we are watching anyway without their guidance...... in addition to the fact we are prone to start off-topic conversations about life that wouldn't be welcomed by the hardcore fans.

The single ladies will be seated by the bar ...so they don't have to go a long way to refresh their drinks while they discuss what the fighters girl friends are wearing. While The fat girls will be seated by the kitchen for obvious reasons.

The white guys... Puerto Ricans and Mexicans are seated in their own area because they are prone to behave boisterously like yelling when punches are landed, spilling an occassional drink, and generally having a good time which usually filters out to the rest of the group. But to insure the safety of the other party goers...we give those guys their own space.

The lone Asian dude and his date can sit where ever they want because he is relatively quiet and respectful...and knowledgeable.

Alright .... I made that up...but we have had a few parties just like that...

Floyd's fight is just the catalyst... After the fight the party takes on a unique life of its own.
I've never had a Mayweather fight party that ended up a dud..

I have had folks curse me for inviting them to see a Kitschko fight and leave after 3 rounds.
I had folks go to sleep watching Paq pot-shot some plodding slow-footed schmuck for 12 rounds.
But Everybody watches the beginning of a Mayweather fight to see his grand entrance ... and the ending in case he has another Larry Merchant moment... The kids will even stop playing video games in the back room to catch it.

Floyd is one of the few fighters left who channels the old school perfection exhibited by the greats from the golden Era when the four Kings reigned.

There is no discussion about the empty unsold seats ... His bank account, PPV totals or his place in history. We let Floyd worry about that.....Afterwards The party simply transitions to the next phase.

And the next day there no regrets.

Except the time I forgot to tell one of the guests where to park and had to pay the Tow Truck $50 to drop the hook. Lol....
If anyone was offended by my lite racial profiling I'll issue a formal apology after the fight.


This is an outstanding post you literally had me laughing out loud and my son walked by and asked what I was laughing at...hahaha...white guys spilling drinks and fat girls near the food hahaha...

Life is full of color and diversity and we are all different/funny/odd/stereotypical....I dig it...

When I watched the Silva fight when he broke his leg it was me and my 18 year old nephew(2 white boys)
and my boys I grew up with in Ohio and a couple of their friends. total 9 of us, 2 white and 7 black and we were mixed right in with each other. Of course two of those guys are my close friends I grew up with watching boxing and i have known those guys 2/3's of my life so we fit right in like old times. What made me laugh was my nephew a young 18 year old white kid fit right in as well. That was a fun night, all of our reactions to when Anderson snapped his leg was the same.....white or black we all were jumping around trying not to watch the replay like watching an incoming train wreck....hilarious. However I totally see the stereotyping in the different races especially for those who arent close or know each other very well.....

seriously a great post, no wonder you enjoy those parties so much....i'm jealous..


btw, you are more than a casual fan.......

DaveB says:

BSug, I can only speak for myself but I found your post quite entertaining. I actually laughed out loud. Thanks for posting.

DaveB says:

Maidana will take his beating like a man. Of course a punch can change the fight but there is little chance of the punch being landed. A boxing lesson is what will happen and not a learning lesson unless it is learning that you are over matched. Still Maidana will press forward because that is who he is and there is the one in a thousand chance something could happen but truthfully unless Mayweather gets old all of a sudden the 999 to one will win.

brownsugar says:

This is an outstanding post you literally had me laughing out loud and my son walked by and asked what I was laughing at...hahaha...white guys spilling drinks and fat girls near the food hahaha...

Life is full of color and diversity and we are all different/funny/odd/stereotypical....I dig it...

When I watched the Silva fight when he broke his leg it was me and my 18 year old nephew(2 white boys)
and my boys I grew up with in Ohio and a couple of their friends. total 9 of us, 2 white and 7 black and we were mixed right in with each other. Of course two of those guys are my close friends I grew up with watching boxing and i have known those guys 2/3's of my life so we fit right in like old times. What made me laugh was my nephew a young 18 year old white kid fit right in as well. That was a fun night, all of our reactions to when Anderson snapped his leg was the same.....white or black we all were jumping around trying not to watch the replay like watching an incoming train wreck....hilarious. However I totally see the stereotyping in the different races especially for those who arent close or know each other very well.....

seriously a great post, no wonder you enjoy those parties so much....i'm jealous..


btw, you are more than a casual fan.......


Thanks Amayseng for sharing that experience.. I knew you were a well rounded guy..

DaveB ... thanks for reassuring me that I haven't crossed the line.

brownsugar says:

Maidana will take his beating like a man. Of course a punch can change the fight but there is little chance of the punch being landed. A boxing lesson is what will happen and not a learning lesson unless it is learning that you are over matched. Still Maidana will press forward because that is who he is and there is the one in a thousand chance something could happen but truthfully unless Mayweather gets old all of a sudden the 999 to one will win.


Exactly... The thrill for me will be seeing someone who can make ol' Floyd break a sweat. Like you say anything can happen in the ring.

amayseng says:

Ok other than Maidana, what other welterweight in the Golden Boy Stable deserves a title shot and a Jackpot Payment of fighting Mayweather???


Exclude Top Rank Guys, (Bradley, Rios, PAC, Providnikov)
Exclude big guys


good point, with the cold war there is nothing out there.

I was happy to see floyd fight Canelo, although i dont think he needed the catch weight..

cotto was a good fight as well

at WW I agree with Madaina getting the shot due to his exciting fights and success as of late. even if khan matches up stylistically better due to his speed...

my point, for there being very little at WW due to the cold war its not worth 75$ unless you have a party or get together like Bsug has going on..

Skibbz says:

Yeah i heard slim was willing to offer $50m to pac to fight Canelo in Mexico but that never happened.. Money may was in there first.

Maidana doesn't have a chance. Floyd knows what's coming before Maidana does. They think at completely different speeds and physically Maidana can't even imagine what floyd does in the run up to a fight. Whilst he's out getting tattoo's and shooting guns floyd is running 8 miles or keeping his tools sharp for the slim chance that Maidana comes close to landing a power shot.

SouthPawFlo says:

It says a lot of Mayweather when a people say a fighter like Marcos Maidana has 0 chance to beat him....

What other 147lb fighters would you Maidana has 0 chance of beating other than Mayweather

Radam G says:

Styles make fights. Maidana will has zero chance of beating Kelly Brooks, Shawn Porter, Devon Alexander, Keith Thurman, Randall Bailey and Da Manny, to name a few. Is that enough for you.

Money May is sugarcoating as always. A spade is a spade. Don't hide in the deep dark, less alone in the shade. Marcos is a no hoper, and Money May stays away from any roper. He doesn't wanna choke, so on the fanfaronades, fan boys and his groupies, he plays a BIG sad JOKE! Holla!

SouthPawFlo says:

@ Radam G


The Maidana trained by Robert G (my vote for trainer of the year) would give problems to every one the you named...


Kell Brook really...

Radam G says:

Maybe! It comes with the territory. He may give problems to Money May. But he won't. Just as those that I named would kicked Maidana's butt. Kell Brook would shut Maidana out, just as Devon Alexander did. The Maidana trained by Robert Garcia is still turtle footed and molasses handed.

He wouldn't touch Da Manny, or Keith Thurman or Shawn Porter, or Alexander again. You are blinded by your infatuation of Money May. And will rationalize anything he does. And made tons of excuses for him. And that is okay, because luv is paradoxical. Holla!

SouthPawFlo says:

@ Radam G

Naw I actually like Robert as a trainer and I like what he's done with Chino these last 4 fights, he's like a totally different fighter.

I think his will and pressure will break a lot of the guys you named.





side note: can someone give me some info on Kell brook, what names does he have on his resume, I don't know much about the guy...

brownsugar says:

Kell is British.... Looks good but has yet to step up ... Was nearly defeated by rival Carson when he gassed in the late rounds. Still unproven at the elite level but shows potential. Currently calling out Khan... Plenty footage on YouTube... he aight. See for yourself.

Carmine Cas says:

If Chino and his corner are smart they just stay away from the head and go to the body and back all night.

if floyd wants to turn and bend that is his fault. i have said for years shoot a body jab and step or angle to the right and beat his side and back up. he cant return that right hand off the roll if you are over there as well.

now can you do this all round? no. but i would not initiate until i was where i wanted to be and in that position. if i am not there then i am not engaging and i am not letting floyd engage.

i would make it the most boring fight ever but i promise you one thing my 8 spurts of 4 body punches per round would be more than floyds single right hands here and there because i wouldnt be anywhere near where floyd wanted me. you have to find a fighter so damn stubborn he can pull this off. see Rigo, he doesnt care to stink out the joint, he fights when he wants to, engages when he wants to otherwise he isnt anywhere near that pocket...


long story short i am with Deep, boycott. I wont give floyd money for him to get 40 mil to duck Pac

i wont support it


That's a good plan, and also keep shooting that jab to the head. The philly shell is susceptible to the left jab.

Carmine Cas says:

Thanks for comment Amayseng....

Right now we're at an impasse because 2 of my peeps want to host the fight and a venue hasn't been formalized yet.. Which is cool because I'm tired of looking at my place.

No matter where the fight is, the format is always the same and everybody knows the drill

The Pundits... Which include the experts and anyone who has boxed before and/or have watched boxing matches for over 20 years get the best seats so they can discuss the fight in an intelligent manner that the casual fans will have NO way of comprehending.

Casual fans like myself will be seated approximately 12 -15 ft from the main flat screen as to not disturb the Pundits with our noob conversation. Plus we wouldn't know what we are watching anyway without their guidance...... in addition to the fact we are prone to start off-topic conversations about life that wouldn't be welcomed by the hardcore fans.

The single ladies will be seated by the bar ...so they don't have to go a long way to refresh their drinks while they discuss what the fighters girl friends are wearing. While The fat girls will be seated by the kitchen for obvious reasons.

The white guys... Puerto Ricans and Mexicans are seated in their own area because they are prone to behave boisterously like yelling when punches are landed, spilling an occassional drink, and generally having a good time which usually filters out to the rest of the group. But to insure the safety of the other party goers...we give those guys their own space.

The lone Asian dude and his date can sit where ever they want because he is relatively quiet and respectful...and knowledgeable.

Alright .... I made that up...but we have had a few parties just like that...

Floyd's fight is just the catalyst... After the fight the party takes on a unique life of its own.
I've never had a Mayweather fight party that ended up a dud..

I have had folks curse me for inviting them to see a Kitschko fight and leave after 3 rounds.
I had folks go to sleep watching Paq pot-shot some plodding slow-footed schmuck for 12 rounds.
But Everybody watches the beginning of a Mayweather fight to see his grand entrance ... and the ending in case he has another Larry Merchant moment... The kids will even stop playing video games in the back room to catch it.

Floyd is one of the few fighters left who channels the old school perfection exhibited by the greats from the golden Era when the four Kings reigned.

There is no discussion about the empty unsold seats ... His bank account, PPV totals or his place in history. We let Floyd worry about that.....Afterwards The party simply transitions to the next phase.

And the next day there no regrets.

Except the time I forgot to tell one of the guests where to park and had to pay the Tow Truck $50 to drop the hook. Lol....
If anyone was offended by my lite racial profiling I'll issue a formal apology after the fight.


Lol nice synopsis, Floyd's charisma has that effect on people....

amayseng says:

That's a good plan, and also keep shooting that jab to the head. The philly shell is susceptible to the left jab.


exactly shoot a left jab to get floyd to begin to roll then step right and bang that body with a few shots then bail out. you cant do this in the center of the ring because floyd is agile and wont allow you to land or throw combinations. the ropes or corner is where it is at.

ortiz did a good job of this in the sense of scoring points at least.

jzzy says:

Listening to Schaeffer and Ellerbe trying to sell this fight to the public by making
El Chino appear as a dangerous opponent was laughable, we're not all morons.
Maidana and Co.'s only hope is that Mayweather has aged alot since he toyed
with Canelo, if not, they're in for a long, frustrating evening in MAY.

stormcentre says:

The only way to make it interesting is for Hayman and the likes to announce that Floyd will fight the whole fight southpaw, or with some equally limiting disadvantage. Perhaps for only rounds 2, 4, 7 and 11.

Otherwise this could be Floyd’s first stoppage in a long time.

For little bother.

amayseng says:

I just watched highlights of the Madaina and Broner fight earlier on the treadmill and Chino is for sure wide and wild. he is a tough cat but he doesnt employ head movement and his feet are pretty slow. He is a damn good fighter in the sense of the word fighter but Floyd is an athletic and agile boxer who will be hard to catch.
One thing going Madainas way is that Floyd had such an easy outing with Canelos punk *** that he might take a round or two to adjust to the bullying of Chino...

stormcentre says:

No-one without an integrated defence, speed, multiple plans, genuine athleticism, good footwork and the ability to hurt Floyd when he is fresh beats him whilst he is in good shape.

If JMM didn’t beat Floyd, then Maidana won’t.

What does Maidana do better?

For Floyd Maidana’s style is probably easier than JMM’s or Alvarez’ to prepare for.

Easy money to beat down little brother’s nemesis

dino da vinci says:

Storm, I swear I was thinking along the same lines. Like maybe Money's opponents should be allowed a slingshot or some weapon of choice until Mayweather has turned the corner and becomes somewhat human again. Beating a puffed up 130 pounder should not land you in a sweepstakes. That said, I'm very happy for him and would truly love to see him prove me wrong, because I can't even see it being as competitive as Money's last outing, which certainly doesn't help the sport's appeal.

stormcentre says:

No-one without an integrated defence, speed, multiple plans, genuine athleticism, good footwork and the ability to hurt Floyd when he is fresh beats him whilst he is in good shape.

If JMM didn’t beat Floyd, then Maidana won’t.

What does Maidana do better?

For Floyd Maidana’s style is probably easier than JMM’s or Alvarez’ to prepare for.

Easy money to beat down little brother’s nemesis

stormcentre says:

Storm, I swear I was thinking along the same lines. Like maybe Money's opponents should be allowed a slingshot or some weapon of choice until Mayweather has turned the corner and becomes somewhat human again. Beating a puffed up 130 pounder should not land you in a sweepstakes. That said, I'm very happy for him and would truly love to see him prove me wrong, because I can't even see it being as competitive as Money's last outing, which certainly doesn't help the sport's appeal.


I agree.

Floyd is just taking it to the bank.

He is very lucky that he is such a good fighter in a pool of guys where there really is no-one that has his experience and skills.

Floyd don't care what we think. He sees the sport as a type of boxing's version of world wide wrestling where it's more about his skillful show - than the challenge.

In some ways he is right too.

Floyd is the artist and he just needs to find a compliant easel.

Mexicans and the like usually fit that bill.

Hence Maidana.

stormcentre says:

Storm, I swear I was thinking along the same lines. Like maybe Money's opponents should be allowed a slingshot or some weapon of choice until Mayweather has turned the corner and becomes somewhat human again. Beating a puffed up 130 pounder should not land you in a sweepstakes. That said, I'm very happy for him and would truly love to see him prove me wrong, because I can't even see it being as competitive as Money's last outing, which certainly doesn't help the sport's appeal.


I agree.

Floyd is just taking it to the bank.

He is very lucky that he is such a good fighter in a pool of guys where there really is no-one that has his experience and skills.

Floyd don't care what we think. He sees the sport as a type of boxing's version of world wide wrestling where it's more about his skillful show - than the challenge.

In some ways he is right too.

Floyd is the artist and he just needs to find a compliant easel.

Mexicans and the like usually fit that bill.

Hence Maidana.

the Roast says:

Lets not look too deep into this people (too late) Maidana has punching power, he beat Broner and he is the WBA Welterweight Champion. I don't mind the fight. I don't love it but I dont mind it. Sure Mayweather will probably cruise to yet another UD but Maidana does have the punchers chance thing going. "A right hand high on the temple and Mayweather is hurt! He's looking to hold on and a left by Maidana sends him down! Floyd Mayweather is down!"

Radam G says:

And then you woke up, the Roast. Hahaha! You fell and bumped your noggin. And had a yellow-brick-road dream. You are back in Milan. Hehehe! Holla!

Radam G says:

In choosing Maidana, Money May is straight up humbuggin.' Because he knows his tiny nuts, his usual groupies, floozies, fanfaronades and fanboys will always and forever be nuthuggin.' Hehehe! Holla!

King Beef says:

No matter who he picked out the 2, it was a no win situation; but it is sooooo disrespectful to say a fighter has zero chance, not even a punchers chance, but no chance. Although we probably all know how this 1 will go, I will give Maidana the respect he deserves as a fighter/title holder.

Radam G says:

It is call prizefighting. Money, money, MONEY for Money May against Amir Khan. Less, less, less against no-chancer Maidana. I'm not down with being politically correct, or going along to get to along.

In the da game of pugilism, every fighter does not have a chance. Money May selected Marcos Maidana become Marcos Maidana is the easier dance.

Boksing is a red-light district sport. And in red-light districts, respect is earned. Holla!

King Beef says:

It is call prizefighting. Money, money, MONEY for Money May against Amir Khan. Less, less, less against no-chancer Maidana. I'm not down with being politically correct, or going along to get to along.

In the da game of pugilism, every fighter does not have a chance. Money May selected Marcos Maidana become Marcos Maidana is the easier dance.

Boksing is a red-light district sport. And in red-light districts, respect is earned. Holla!


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you claim to be "in the know" , so you know as well as I do if MW had chosen Khan it would have been the same thing;..Khan is chinny, 2-2 in last fights, and so on and so on. Sure it would look competitive until he is timed, (2 or 3 rds) then it's another sparring session. You also know that for a decent puncher it only takes 1 shot, but true the chances of getting it thru on MW is very difficult but not impossible.

amayseng says:

Madaina is a thudding strong puncher, he is not a one punch killer like Duran, Tyson or Hearns.

So for ONE punch to change the fight you have to be a killer in there. I like Madaina, I am a fan but he is not

a destroying puncher.

Radam G says:

The speed of Amir Khan would've jive up Money May for a few rounds. Nothing that wide-swinging, turtle-footed Marcos Polo -- I mean Maidana -- does will bother Money May. Not even a blind man needs to be "in the know" to know that. He could see Maidana coming. And tell the seeing dog to bite dat slow byytchh!

Money May sets up more fixed fights than the mafia use to do. Maidana is not a decent puncher. He has knocked down and out tight-fighting, hyped-up sidewalk fighters. "Viciousless" Victor Ortiz and April "The Problem Foolish Clown" Broner, to name two.

Money May is loosey goosey and wide-eyed and will see every punch coming and counter and two step. And turn and burn. Walk and stalk.Slide and ride. And keep robbing that money from his fanfaronades, floozies, fanboys and groupies like Bonnie and Clyde. Holla!

King Beef says:

Madaina is a thudding strong puncher, he is not a one punch killer like Duran, Tyson or Hearns.

So for ONE punch to change the fight you have to be a killer in there. I like Madaina, I am a fan but he is not

a destroying puncher.


Of course; and I agree it would have to be that 1 perfect shot; because Mayweather does recover very quickly, so the window of opportunity will be brief. hopefully the undercard is good.

off topic looks like they moved Lomanchenko along alittle to fast. Seems alittle to green to the pro style, but I think he will be OK

amayseng says:

Of course; and I agree it would have to be that 1 perfect shot; because Mayweather does recover very quickly, so the window of opportunity will be brief. hopefully the undercard is good.

off topic looks like they moved Lomanchenko along alittle to fast. Seems alittle to green to the pro style, but I think he will be OK


Chino is not as hard a puncher as Shane and Shane landed 2 bombs and Floyd and he didnt go down.

Madaina in for a long night. best thing he can do in training camp is footwork and foot speed and agility.

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