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Detonator Gennady Golovkin KOs Matthew Macklin With Body Shot

BY Michael Woods ON June 29, 2013
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 Gennady GolovkinGennady Golovkin scared off another batch of potential foes when he threw a left hook from hell to the body of Matthew Macklin in round three of the main event from Foxwoods, in CT, and on HBO, on Saturday night. The end came, with Macklin rolled over onto his belly, face down, in agony, at 1:22 of the the third.

The severity of the shot, the promise of power, has fight fans positively salivating. Golovkin jumped into Must See territory on this night, and I think it might be safe to say that he is considerably tougher than he showed in his last scrap, against Gabriel Rosado, because on that night he was sick. People are taking to Twitter comparing Golovkin's power to Mike Tyson, seeing him taking out Floyd Mayweather, AND Andre Ward...on the same night! OK, maybe not the same a fight featuring this principal, even if the last time they watched boxing was when Tyson was campaigning. We may well have seen the birth of a boxing superstar on this night, in Connecticut.

After, to Max Kellerman, Golovkin said that this was a regular fight, not a huge test. He watched the body shot, and said he got in good position for the body shot. "That's my lucky punch," he said. Is Sergio Martinez next? "This is a present for my public...I am ready for this fight."

Macklin after said he was "the best kid I ever fought." He said Golovkin picked his punches well, and his power is "clubbing, solid," even his jab.

The IBO and WBA middleweight champion Golovkin (age 31; 26-0 with 23 KOs entering; had KOd 13 straight foes; from Kazahkstan) was 159 pounds, Macklin (29-4 entering; age 31; born in England, grew up in Ireland, lives in Spain) was 159 on Friday, and both were 170 on fight night.

The event was put together by K2 and Lou Dibella.

In the first, GGG looked to stalk, cut off the ring, land heavy. A right lead-left hook late sent MM flying back into the ropes. "Move to your right," said trainer Buddy McGirt after the round to Macklin.

In the second, we saw a cut over Mack's left eye. He ate heavy shots, a few of them, bad ass detonators.

In the third, a left hook to the body put Macklin down, on his face, to be counted out. He was trapped on the ropes, and went to the mat like he was hit by a taser.

Thomas Oosthuizen met Brandon Gonzalez in a super middleweight fight in HBO's second fight of the night. After ten rounds, we went to the cards, a surprise to folks who thought Tommy O would step up in this fight and really shine. The scores were 98-92 (Pete Hary) for Gonzo, 96-94 (Glenn Feldman) for Tommy O, and 95-95 (Clark Sammartino), a draw.

Tommy O, from South Africa, holds the IBO 168 crown but that wasn't on the line on this night. The 6-4 lefty looked to keep the Cali boxer at a safe distance, and not let him swarm his way in, but not as much as he should have. O towered over the 5-10 1/2 Gonzo, and snapped a long, hard jab to nice effect early. But Gonzo's volume, and desire was on display, and maybe swayed judges early on. The 6-4 O was busier in the sixth, jabbed, worked in a couple uppercuts. "He's way more tired than you," said Gonzo's trainer Virgil Hunter, trainer of Andre Ward, after the sixth. He's ready to be whupped," Hunter said after the seventh, "Don't let it get away, don't let it get away, don't let it get away."

In the eighth, Tommy O didn't ramp it up like maybe he needed to, like he might be down a few rounds. He was busier in the ninth. Tommy O might have buzzed Gonzo in the 12th but he collected himself. We went to the cards. HBO's Steve Weisfeld saw it 96-94, for Gonzalez.

Gonzo won 164-160 in punches landed.

Willie Nelson (20-1-1 entering) took on Luciano Cuello (32-2 entering) in HBO's TV opener.

In this junior middleweight scrap, the Argentine Cuello surprised to the upside those who noted he'd lost to JC Chavez Jr (in 2009, UD10) and was stopped by Canelo Alvarez (TKO6) in 2010. He buzzed Nelson, the taller man who didn't use his height to best effect, several times.

Nelson had a cut eye in the third, and used his jab and reach to good effect to midway. Later, he chose to fight in close too much, perhaps, and got nailed a few times for his trouble.

After ten rounds, the fight went to the cards. They scored it 97-93, 97-93, 96-94, for the Ohian, whose trainer Jack Leow provided some entertainment with his fiery and profane exhortations in between rounds. There was some booing in the stands at the decision.

Nelson went 231-649 to 198-553 for the loser, so as is fairly typical, the volume winner won.

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Carmine Cas says:

Damn I hope Sergio's knee heals and learns how to clinch over night lol. I want to see him fight Quillen

Carmine Cas says:

One of the announcers made a good point, Macklin was there to be hit. His style played right into GGG's hard punching, GGG is an assasin

amayseng says:

His style played right into ggg as Macklin ran the entire fight?


He wasn't standing trading all fight he was in retreat from right off the bat.


Rewatch it.

amayseng says:

Macklin was in the run the entire time.

Carmine Cas says:

His style played right into ggg as Macklin ran the entire fight?


He wasn't standing trading all fight he was in retreat from right off the bat.


Rewatch it.


Yes he was retreating and GGG cut him off and broke him down, not taking credit away from Golovkin. He's a beast

amayseng says:

I'm just saying Macklin made an effort to box and not get hit.

stormcentre says:

Wow, what a statement 3G made with this dismantling.

Very impressive.

I thought there would at least be 6 or 7 rounds; if there was to be a KO win.

I'd like to see GGG fight Froch or Kesser now.

I can't imagine Martinez will like the risk/reward ratio associated with Golovkin right now - particularly since he flogged Mack The Knife with relative ease and disparity to Martinez; that must says something to Sergio whether he admits it or not.

Body shot KO's when the opponent is fresh speak volumes of their author's power and confidence.

Radam G says:

The fight went the way that I expected. You don't run from a killa without crowding him, clinching him and talking to him. It would be a good fight between the Big Apple Kid Chocolate and 3g for the first two rounds. Then 3g would kayo the "Q" in round three. That is what I eye. Holla!

amayseng says:

I'm a huge Sergio fan but I think he is getting older and worn down. All obvious from the injuries

and close fights.


Ggg beats him up.

Kessler is solid but a bit worn and won't get much past Macklin did.

Froch is a tough bearded boxer but he lacks skill, fundamentals, speed, agility and defense

and will be floored and best up in 10-12.


I hear ggg would come down to 154 for Floyd but how can that be healthy ?

Floyd wouldn't do it anyway.


I say kid chocolate next.

amayseng says:

The fight went the way that I expected. You don't run from a killa without crowding him, clinching him and talking to him. It would be a good fight between the Big Apple Kid Chocolate and 3g for the first two rounds. Then 3g would kayo the "Q" in round three. That is what I eye. Holla!


Macklin attempted early to crowd and hold.

Smart.

However.

Ggg adjusted and got his lean on to avoid it akin with footwork.

Then proceeded to grab Macklin and push his head down.

Smart.

Ggg has excellent footwork. I think that is being overlooked.

Radam G says:

Mack Knife didn't do boxing crowding and clinching. He did bytch holding and hugging and bugging. He was out of his league. Wow! I was shock that Buddy McGirt didn't stop it after of the second round. "We're stopping it, baby!"

Danggit! I made a four-figure bet that those famous words of Buddy would thunder. But 3g's liver punch wasn't having it. Holla!

DaveB says:

Wow Amayseng (I finally got it after all this time Amazing) Do you really think he can go up to 168 and beat up Froch? That really would be amazing.

amayseng says:

I think he beats froch because froch is in love with himself

and doesn't believe he can be knocked out.

It will be his undoing.


Ya amayseng as in amazing. Ha.

My name is in there somewhere

the Roast says:

Best win I've seen from the GGG. Make room for me on the bandwagon. Sergio had better avoid this man. The fight was competitive for about two minutes, then GGG started landing hard shots that made Macklin think twice. Mack's face was pretty busted up in the post fight for less than three rounds. GGG looks nothing like Bieber, more like Kostya Tsyu.

deepwater says:

Well ggg smashed Mack ,very impressive. He smashed him so quick, buddy didn't even have a chance to say I'm it stopping it baby. Ggg vs quillen at Barclays please . Ggg vs Sergio wouldn't even be close . Ggg vs Floyd at 154 !!!!!!!!!!! He is too nice to call out Floyd but Abel Sanchez can do it. If Floyd beats gingerbread man at 154 he has no excuse if ggg can make 154 . 160 -154 might be all ggg. Ward better stop commenting and get his butt in the gym.

brownsugar says:

They should rate GGG's fights "V" for violence... my grandson was a little disturbed after watching the delayed reaction of Macks silent scream a split second before he spilled onto the canvas ... a writhing mass of pain. .......GGG fights like a chess player looking 10 moves ahead...thwart one of his attacks and he's in position to execute 3 more strategies. ...Always forcing the action with virtually no downtime...eventually Mack had stop running and fight because he was getting his arose stomped anyway ........and when he did it just accelerated GGG's offence...poor kid never had a chance. Quillen said in a press release yesterday "I ain't scerred of no beast". He went on to say he would take on tonights winner. I have to wonder if he still feels the same today..... Quillen is one of the hardest punching middleweights this side of Curtis Stevens but otherwise he's not in GGG's league. I haven't been this excited about the middleweight division since Hagler ruled it with an iron fist. I guess GGG can finally be considered as a contender rather than a pretender for the P4P Throne.

leon30001 says:

We may well have seen the birth of a boxing superstar on this night


Steady on there, fella! It was only Macklin after all (good gatekeeper though he is). Obviously Golovkin looked good though...

deepwater says:

It was beautiful violence. What a nice young man outside the ring and a vicious animal inside it. What a refreshing fight. It's nice to see a boxer use his skills to hurt an opponant instead of coasting to a decision. Sweet Lou dibella said a few months ago no one knows ggg, the day before the fight sweet Lou said we having a f ing fight, after the fight he says Sergio can't fight this animal after a lay off. Good ole sweet Lou . Throw big mouth quillen who said it was a 50 50 fight in there with him. Al Haymon will keep all his phoney fighters away from ggg. I look forward to watching this nice young man again . What a breath of fresh air.

amayseng says:

Great post bsug very analytical and accurate.


And I agree with deep all the way.

It's nice to have a silent killer.

Silent outside the ring when it comes to being a problem

and a killer obviously in it.


I couldn't believe how relaxed ggg was thro the entire fight.

After halfway thro the first round Macklin had a panicked look

and feel about him in there. He knew he was in trouble.

Ggg doesn't load up on his shots or muscle up he throws

everything good and he just has that power all the time.

Like I tell my kids it's a good swing everytime not a hard muscled up swing which can

change your fundamentals and balance. ( hitting at the plate).

This also goes for punching. It also conserves energy.

If ggg can make 154 completely healthy Floyd can't beat him.

Floyd is slick but he won't be able to score enough on the retreat all night because ggg

is every active and efficient.

Radam G says:

Three-g has a near-perfect boxing ectomorph body . His thighs are too firm for him to try to drop weight down to 154lbs. It ain't gonna happen. And Abel Sanchez is not going to let it be. He know clearly that 3g is chemically perfect where he is. Drop him down in weight or fatten him, you destroy a nature near-perfect product. And by all means, don't put him on dat syet that gives you that eye-candy Hulk look.

Three-g can at least stop the pundits and fanfaronades and groupies and nuthuggers from believing in nonsense of great boxers having to look like Hulk-@$$ body builders or be as tall as Bluderbore. Holla!

TBIZZY says:

what a performance by ggg!! i would like to see him spend the next year or so sweeping through the middleweight division then fighting maybe canelo or ward. i don't think canelo would stand a chance and the ward fight if given the time and both fighters continue winning would set all types of records on ppv.

teaser says:

was a pleasure to watch ggg...before the fight i told my buddy that I wouldn't want to have macklin's ribs in the morning ..I knew he was in big trouble when I saw how focused and serious ggg was ...didn't take long to see this was gonna be a short night ..a cold ,clinical and methodic destruction of a proven middleweight...in the first two rounds mack had the look of shock and awe...and in the third decided to go out on his shield and ggg was glad to oblige probably saving Macklin a much more serious beating

TBIZZY says:

i fully agree with you on all points except on mayweather. listen this kid is obviously the best puncher in boxing, and his ring command from the little i have seen of him is very good but Floyd could stick and move the whole 12 rounds as we know mayweather has the best stamina in the game, but having said that its a fight that wont happen i dont like ggg at 154 i think it would take too much energy to make weight. i think a good alternative is canelo vs ggg depending on how canelo fairs against money. either way ggg is a force and i can't wait to see his total fight package evolve as he gets more experience in big time fights. because mayweather is so great because of the adjustments he makes in mid-fight. very smart and instinctive boxer.

Carmine Cas says:

I would love to see the Quillen fight, make it happen! If GGG can make 154 then let him fight Floyd if his body isn't compromised. Macklin wasn't crowding GGG he was just holding on for dear life, I think you need to muffle his shots when you're on the inside with him and mug him in the process; a la mosley-margacheato and ward-froch. Speaking of Froch, it would only be a matter of time before GGG breaks him down. Yes Froch hits hard and has a sturdy chin but GGG would get on the inside and break him in the latter rounds. If Sergio fights GGG I strongly advise him to hire Naseem Richardson or Floyd Sr

Carmine Cas says:

GGG is very fluid between defense and offense, he's always in position to punch. Like B-sugar said he's 10 steps ahead of his opponents. To have success you have disrupt his rhythm and muffle those shots, for starters lol

kidcanvas says:

i gave macklin 3 rds longer to last than it took obviously. he looked like he already **** himself before he left the dressing room. u dont box a guy like that unless you have a granite chin wtf

brownsugar says:

Great post bsug very analytical and accurate.


And I agree with deep all the way.

It's nice to have a silent killer.

Silent outside the ring when it comes to being a problem

and a killer obviously in it.


I couldn't believe how relaxed ggg was thro the entire fight.

After halfway thro the first round Macklin had a panicked look

and feel about him in there. He knew he was in trouble.

Ggg doesn't load up on his shots or muscle up he throws

everything good and he just has that power all the time.

Like I tell my kids it's a good swing everytime not a hard muscled up swing which can

change your fundamentals and balance. ( hitting at the plate).

This also goes for punching. It also conserves energy.

If ggg can make 154 completely healthy Floyd can't beat him.

Floyd is slick but he won't be able to score enough on the retreat all night because ggg

is every active and efficient.


To me Floyd versus GGG isnt practical.
Floyd could have fought his entire career as a junior welterweight .....He still rehydrates to only 146-150 on fight night. By contrast Brandon Rios blew up to 155lbs for a lightweight fight. And Juan Guzman blew up to 148 BEFORE the weigh in of a junior-welterweight fight. When you compare Floyd to all time greats like Duran Hearns and Leonard...they were all naturally bigger which is evident by their ability to accend all the way up to light heavy. Floyd does not belong in the ring with someone who will eventually be fighting Andre Ward someday. Canelo is already a rough assignment.. Floyd will have to hit Canelo hard enough to break both of his fragile fists before he can even wobble the Hulk-like Mexican. The fights I want to see is GGG vs Ward or Adonis Stevenson... or Quillen in the short-term....could you imagine that? After a couple of feeling out rounds Triple G would be all over the Q-man like the Zombies in "World War Z".

brownsugar says:

I'm reading some incredible comments by all the TSS. (Thanks Amayseng) .... great performances deserve great commentary.. As some great boxers... Pac, Floyd and even the K-brothers are preparing to leave boxing ......its good to know that one guy .....who comes around every ten years .....has finally arrived in the personage of the insatiable and eager to please GGG. Let the Triple G era commence!

Radam G says:

Three-g is never going down in weight, PERIOD! He is running the show. Sorry! But Money May is just running. And, of course, making money EASILY! He's going to blast Canelo outta dat waters and KAYO him. And he is not fighting 3g at any weight. Unless, of course, if 3g suddenly becomes SuperBad Chad thinking, and starve down to 152lbs, then it is on.

Since 3g is an HBO fighter, I expect for it to take 3g to the Middle East or his home country to clean out the money in that market. Prizefighting is alive and kicking. Pridefighting is with SHOWTIME, GBP and The Shadow and is lollypop licking. Holla!

Raiders says:

GGG was impressive, he has the worst fans, Quillin still has better wins and is undefeated.

amayseng says:

How does ggg have the worst fans?

Because we are happy to see a hard hitter with good boxing

Ability who conducts himself like a true professional inside and outside the ring?

Raiders says:

What exactly does Qullin do that is so bad?

amayseng says:

Never wrote a negative word about Qullin.

Not once.

I said a Qullin ggg matchup next would be good.

Raiders says:

Golovkin's resume doesn't deserve it's hype, I never see any Quillin respect it gets tiresome.

Radam G says:

Three-g would KAYO "Q" in a New York nanominute. In the words of great HOF referee Mills Lane: "Let's get it ON!" NYET! The fight will never happen. GBP, Showtime and The Shadow ain't one of those suckas born ev'y minute. They know da deal and da real. Though this bout would have great fan-and-fanfaronade appeal, For 3-g, Q would be an easy meal. Hehehe! We are dealing with real-life whup arse. Holla!

amayseng says:

Golovkin's resume doesn't deserve it's hype, I never see any Quillin respect it gets tiresome.


Quillin didn't fight last night therefore no one is tooting his horn.

The thread is about ggg and his dominance and progression.


Ggg is the whole package.


Resume resume resume.

Having an impressive résumé not only takes time

but opponents actually signing contracts and fighting ggg

amayseng says:

Golovkin's resume doesn't deserve it's hype, I never see any Quillin respect it gets tiresome.


Quillin didn't fight last night therefore no one is tooting his horn.

The thread is about ggg and his dominance and progression.


Ggg is the whole package.


Resume resume resume.

Having an impressive résumé not only takes time

but opponents actually signing contracts and fighting ggg

Carmine Cas says:

To me Floyd versus GGG isnt practical.
Floyd could have fought his entire career as a junior welterweight .....He still rehydrates to only 146-150 on fight night. By contrast Brandon Rios blew up to 155lbs for a lightweight fight. And Juan Guzman blew up to 148 BEFORE the weigh in of a junior-welterweight fight. When you compare Floyd to all time greats like Duran Hearns and Leonard...they were all naturally bigger which is evident by their ability to accend all the way up to light heavy. Floyd does not belong in the ring with someone who will eventually be fighting Andre Ward someday. Canelo is already a rough assignment.. Floyd will have to hit Canelo hard enough to break both of his fragile fists before he can even wobble the Hulk-like Mexican. The fights I want to see is GGG vs Ward or Adonis Stevenson... or Quillen in the short-term....could you imagine that? After a couple of feeling out rounds Triple G would be all over the Q-man like the Zombies in "World War Z".


Floyd is the smaller man in the ring now usually, but if GGG can make the 154 lb limit they should fight. Floyd gave up a lot of weight fight night to Cotto, De La Hoya, and Ortiz. The difference was these fighters were out of their primes, except Ortiz. I'm a huge fan of the Stevenson and Quillen fights

Carmine Cas says:

Both promotions are guilty of "pride and prize" fighting, Al Haymon and GB cherry pick but uncle Bob is more than guilty. Right now showtime seems to have the momentum with solid cards, we'll see how Pacquiao's fight overseas plays out. China def has us by the balls economically, it'll be interesting to see how Top Rank's endeavor out to the orient results. As Americans we have a lot to learn especially economically from other top nations. But the orient has a lot to learn from us and other western countries as to how to treat wild life and the environment, it's horrible.

Radam G says:

Hehehehe! Somebody is funny as a muthaclown. OMFG! Our Asian cultures are 10 to 20 times older than U,S. America. And we don't tell wacko lies, kill off the native people, put 'em on reservations, destroy the wildlife of the vast amount of the environment. Then tell the-none travelling average Joes and Judies ridiculous lies about the masse of lands. Our people travel to see for themselves.

We have problems that we solve -- not sweep under the carpet. And then use magic to hide the real. Da Manny isn't leading the Rising of Asia, he is a part of it. He learned that fair play in Sin City doesn't mean syet. Holla!

ali says:

Quillin beats GGG

Radam G says:

Pridefighting is for puppets, posers, phonies and pretenders. Prizefighting is for BIG moneymakers. Look at all of the prizefighters and learned how much money they made in regards to the former.

For instance, the great light-heavyweight Bob Father fought for pride. The light-heavyweights Bob Fitzsimmon, Michael Spinks and Roy Jones, Jr made 30 times more money than he, because they were prizefighters. And now as an old man, Foster lies and says that he had six-and-seven figure fights, when his largest purse was against GOAT Ali and Mike Quarry for 75Thou. The former welterweight champ Curtis Coke made $400 for his first pro fight in the 1950s, because he fought for prize. Pride (clubfighter and circusfighter) made $25 to $50 because of the pride to entertain and represent first.

Hopefully, I've made my point. There are a lot of fighting for peanut because of pride, not prize. And the pride is because of them, not the promoters. There are tons of pridefighters '-- Hulkquez and Buffet Bradley, to name two -- turn downs monster purses because of pride and cowardice over prize and courage. Holla!

teaser says:

agree with you that Leonard (welterweight 5'-10" and 74" reach)and Hearns (welterweight 6'-1" and 78"reach),were naturally bigger than Floyd but not Duran ,he was a lightweight for 10 yrs only 5'-7" with a 66" reach ..hence his much reduced success at the higher weights ..even welterweight...yes for Floyd to fight GGG even though they are of similar height and reach is a tall order ..GGG is just naturally stronger ...not level playing conditions

To me Floyd versus GGG isnt practical.
Floyd could have fought his entire career as a junior welterweight .....He still rehydrates to only 146-150 on fight night. By contrast Brandon Rios blew up to 155lbs for a lightweight fight. And Juan Guzman blew up to 148 BEFORE the weigh in of a junior-welterweight fight. When you compare Floyd to all time greats like Duran Hearns and Leonard...they were all naturally bigger which is evident by their ability to accend all the way up to light heavy. Floyd does not belong in the ring with someone who will eventually be fighting Andre Ward someday. Canelo is already a rough assignment.. Floyd will have to hit Canelo hard enough to break both of his fragile fists before he can even wobble the Hulk-like Mexican. The fights I want to see is GGG vs Ward or Adonis Stevenson... or Quillen in the short-term....could you imagine that? After a couple of feeling out rounds Triple G would be all over the Q-man like the Zombies in "World War Z".

brownsugar says:

Quillin beats GGG

Ali.....
I think Quillen deserves respect for what he's accomplished with only a handful of amateur fights and having to wait it out on the sidelines to heal some nagging injuries. By the sheer force of his detetmination and dedication, Quillen has willled himself to a championship..and personally I felt he was being ducked by Sturms, Martinez and Chavez. He has also said recently that he was open to a fight with GGG on Fridays (but he's been absent with his comments sinceGGG disarmed The Knife).

GGG vs Quillen is an interesting fight because both boxers have incredible power. But ultimately,... Quillen can only lose and learn from GGG. Quillen should target Geale after he beats Barker....or maybe see what he could do against Macklin before even considering being on the receiving end of a beatdown from GGG.
Quillen also has opportunities at168.

brownsugar says:

agree with you that Leonard (welterweight 5'-10" and 74" reach)and Hearns (welterweight 6'-1" and 78"reach),were naturally bigger than Floyd but not Duran ,he was a lightweight for 10 yrs only 5'-7" with a 66" reach ..hence his much reduced success at the higher weights ..even welterweight...yes for Floyd to fight GGG even though they are of similar height and reach is a tall order ..GGG is just naturally stronger ...not level playing conditions


Floyd would not stand a chance....I'll concede the Duran reference Teaser... although he did fight as high as cruiserweight.
Its a testimant to Floyds ability that its automatically assumed he would competive against GGG, but he'll be lucky to get past Canelo.

Radam G says:

Wow! Money May is going to have a field day with the red-head, chubby hype. Even through size doesn't matter in reality -- I guess it primarily applies alternative reality -- Money May's reach is longer than Canelo, he is taller than Canelo, Money May shoulders, feet and pocket book are bigger than Canelo.

You guys need to get out more and see the reality of his fighters' true size. Canelo is a fat @$$! Money May is going chop him up and whup up easily.The hyped-up Canelo is a primed Redcoat Ricky Hatton lite. Money May in eight. Holla!

Carmine Cas says:

Hehehehe! Somebody is funny as a muthaclown. OMFG! Our Asian cultures are 10 to 20 times older than U,S. America. And we don't tell wacko lies, kill off the native people, put 'em on reservations, destroy the wildlife of the vast amount of the environment. Then tell the-none travelling average Joes and Judies ridiculous lies about the masse of lands. Our people travel to see for themselves.

We have problems that we solve -- not sweep under the carpet. And then use magic to hide the real. Da Manny isn't leading the Rising of Asia, he is a part of it. He learned that fair play in Sin City doesn't mean syet. Holla!


Hey, I totally agree with you in regards to our media, but let's not forget tiananmen square and how it was no where to be seen on the Chinese Internet, mao zedong killing tens of millions, Rape of Nanking, the treatment of women in China etc. Lol when you think about it asians are more upfront of their brutality. The US at least hides it in the media lol. Each society is guilty of human atrocity, US is one of the worsts. My point is asians are 10x worse than western societies when it comes wildlife and environment. US citizens haven't faced the necessity to wear masks or respirators whatever they are in our major cities from air pollution, although our navy is scumbag enough to to do sonar testing on marine life; but we do not cut their dorsal fins and release them back into the sea to their inevitable death (holla at Wladimir he had front row seats), or the thousands of shark fins secretly drying out on the top of Chinese buildings, hunt endangered species, and of course the obvious the consumption of cats and dogs.

As for the rising in Asia I hope it succeeds for the good of boxing, golden girls should follow suit

Carmine Cas says:

Floyd would not stand a chance....I'll concede the Duran reference Teaser... although he did fight as high as cruiserweight.
Its a testimant to Floyds ability that its automatically assumed he would competive against GGG, but he'll be lucky to get past Canelo.


Part of me thinks Floyd will have a walk in the park with Canelo, but if Canelo is smart he'll get his stamina up because he is going to need it. He showed glimpses of success against a slick boxer in his last fight. But Floyd is fighting Canelo because he sees weakness that he can exploit and win. And obviously the massive payday lol

Carmine Cas says:

So we shall see September!

amayseng says:

Floyd needs Canelo because the ghost Ppv bombed and show time

lost big time.


Floyd had no choice if he wanted to make big money to fight Canelo

no one else brings in that type of money which is why

Floyd refused without the catch weight.


If Canelo a d his team are smart they would know 152 is dangerous

and won't fair well with the already tough 154 cut and have

Alvarez come in at 154 anyway.


Pay the fine and let Floyd deal with it.

If Floyd backs out the day before the fight then he one

won't get paid and 2 will look like a coward over 2 pounds to the casual fan.



154 Canelo be smart!!!!


If not you are getting your ears boxed off.

teaser says:

Canelo will definitely have to pace himself or face a rough time in the later rounds ....we've seen Floyd make it look easy against smaller foes but remember Oscar had a lot of success early behind that jab ...similar reach of Canelo ....gonna be interesting

brownsugar says:

So we shall see September!


I agree......Canelo is an ambush artist.. he waits for opportunities and then explodes with creative combinations to the head and body. Also Canelo is wider in the shoulders than Floyd so when he shoots his right hand and bends at the waist while turning his shoulder into the punch....71 inches suddenly turns to 78...Trout knows... I suspect this will be a very closely contested bout.

amayseng says:

Brown sugar the problem is Floyd's foot agility is still outstanding

and will keep him exiting right left back and all over out of the pocket

after his single and double pot shots.

Canelo will be overly stressed and pressing and gased out by

Round 7.


This is another area ggg prospers in. Relaxed and patient.

the Roast says:

GGG looks like a big 160 to me. 168 in a year or so. Floyd won't go to 160 to fight him. I doubt GGG could make it down to 154 and even if he did Floyd doesn't take risks like that. GGG has plenty of quality fights at '60 and '68.

the Roast says:

Canelo will definitely have to pace himself or face a rough time in the later rounds ....we've seen Floyd make it look easy against smaller foes but remember Oscar had a lot of success early behind that jab ...similar reach of Canelo ....gonna be interesting


Love the pic teaser.

amayseng says:

GGG looks like a big 160 to me. 168 in a year or so. Floyd won't go to 160 to fight him. I doubt GGG could make it down to 154 and even if he did Floyd doesn't take risks like that. GGG has plenty of quality fights at '60 and '68.


Ggg weighed in at 170 fight night.

153 toooooooo low.

He wouldn't be healthy.


Eventfully ggg should just fight at 168 without cutting and rehydrating.


For now clean out mw

the Roast says:

Ggg weighed in at 170 fight night.

154 toooooooo low.

He wouldn't be healthy.


Eventfully ggg should just fight at 168 without cutting and rehydrating.


For now clean out mw


I totally agree.

Radam G says:

Canelo does not have the reach of Big Money Oscar De la Hoya. Big Money O is a legit 5-foot-10. $tubby Canelo is about 5' 7 and some change. Help me TSS scribes? C'mon, MAN! You guys are here to inform. This cyberspace crowd is not going to believe shyt that I post because they don't know da game of promoting and hyping everything, especially size. It powerful promotion fo the game's playas look BIGGER than life.

The busters and posers, who have never been around true pro athletes, don't know that we are mainly the sizes of the general population. OMFG! That is where we come from. Holla!

Radam G says:

BTW! Canelo will not set any pace against Money May. Money May will control everything. And he will beat the brakes offthe hyped-up size and boxing ability of Canelo. It is more suckas being fooled again into thinking a sidewalk-speed fighter can stay on the dangerous streath speedway of Money May. Holla!

DaveB says:

Triple G and Floyd as well as Triple G and Quillen are on different networks. As if we didn't have enough problems with GB and Top Rank now we have to contend with HBO and Showtime. Sigh!

Radam G says:

Wow! B-Sug, I don't know where you are getting your into, but Money May has the longer REACH from middlefinger across the shoulders to the other middlefinger -- 183 cm/72 inches. Canelo is usually listed at 181cm/71 inches. But sometimes he has been noted his likely truth reach of 68 inches.

Money May is larger/bigger in every department except weight. And Canelo is pudgy. He is the fat-@$$ bigger one in near-obese weight for boksing. Dude should be at 140lbs if he was boxing eating. Holla,

brownsugar says:

Right RG .... Canelo is 71"and Floyd is 72". But Canelo is wider and thicker....and there's nothing fat or Pudgy about him. The inch difference won't make a lick of difference ...the red headed hype is better than he's given credit for.. An upset win is not out of the question.

Amayseng... foot speed is important but Floyd has a habit of ducking at the height where Canelo likes to throw his hooks and uppercut. Floyd also leaves his sides open to attack occasionally....not a good thing to do in front of a body snatcher like Canelo. This will not be a walk in the park especially for May weather. Glad the fight was made... but not so optimistic as the rest of the TSS.

Radam G says:

You apparently haven't seen Canelo in person. Or if you have seen him in person, maybe you are one of those persons that have inattention blindness or sympathy to pugdiness because some people see it as huskiness. So I will squash it with you by saying that pudginess is in the eye of the beholder. And it will be Canelo's downfall. Canelo is thicker not wider than Money May from head to toe. Let's just wait and see. Boxing measurements change at fight time when it become apparent to any uneducated eye. I guess once that sellers of the fight get that money, They will spill the truth.

At fight time, Money May will clearly be called the wider-shouldered fighter with the reach advantage and slide height advantage. I will bet one of my U,S. Homes on that. Holla!

Radam G says:

Hehehe! The only upset will be a gift victory to Canelo or Money May gets injuried and cannot continue. But chances of that are slim. Under like the superhype's fat @$$. He will be no match for Money May. Wow! Fans, fanfaronades and haters keep buying that Money May is finally fighting someone who will challenge him. YUP! Canelo is getting KTFO. And I'm betting moderate. Holla!

Carmine Cas says:

Floyd only fights people he knows he can beat, but I think there is more than meets the eye with Canelo. He definitely needs to be smart about his cutting and I think he should come in at least at 154, this is the fight of his life be your best. All of you had great points, Floyd does leave himself open to Canelo's hooks and uppercuts, Floyd does need Canelo for the big payday, and Canelo does need to get lean and mean. For his measuremnets I've seen from multiple sources that his reach is 71" at 5"9. Canelo needs to quick on his feet and feint his way in, disguise his attacks, and come in at angles

gibola says:

GGG put in a great performance and deserves huge credit. I thought Macklin would really test him but fair play to Golovkin he walked him down and Macklin couldn't deal with it. According to his management GGG is a natural 154lber who couldn't get opportunities and went to 160lb for a shot at a vacant title. Rather than taking on Froch or Ward (too big and strong, he will get manhandled and KO'd), GGG should try to get down to 154 and go after PBF, Cotto, Canelo, etc. Whatever happens I wouldn't touch 168. Quillan, Chavez, Martinez and Murray are all good opponents at 160 but 154 is where the real opportunities are. 168 is suicide - he's no easy mark but he's too small for Froch or Ward. Eddie Hearn will snap HBOs hands off if he's offered the fight for Froch in England but I'd be amazed if GGG's people took it. Froch is not Matthew Macklin.

amayseng says:

Gibola a shot and ruined Taylor out boxed

and even put a bigger Froch on his *** Before getting knocked out.


Ya froch is more seasoned but he is 5 years older.

Slower. Slower. And slower. Dude has no speed.


Ggg destroys froch.

I'm tellin ya.


The sheer physics don't add up in frochs favor.


And NO way Floyd fights ggg at 154

Carmine Cas says:

I would love to see GGG dismantle Froch, Adonis Stevenson would be a great fight as well. Yeah and Floyd doesn't go near GGG at 154

Radam G says:

Cyberhaters and beefers can keep on spitting the jive that they want to about bytch-arse, unreliable sources stretching measurements and reach about the red-headed hype. However, the highly reliable, none-bullsyeting TSS sources know what is up and will spit it in this Universe, and it will go right over the heads of haters.

Haters and posers don't want the truth. They just want everybodee and dey momma to agree with the bullsyetology as if you are one of the weak rats marching off a cliff to the sounds of a pied piler's flute. Put dat jive on mute. Holla!

gibola says:

You all may be right, perhaps GGG would murder Froch. Alternatively Froch might take his punches and scare the life out of him when he made it physical and began punching back. GGG would land punches - certainly - but if he didn't knock Froch out early - and that is a huge if - Froch would wear him down as he did Taylor, Kessler and even Ward to some degree (watch R12 of their fight). GGG might be at his all-time high now, he's the next superstar, but I urge caution. Fghters rarely turn out to be as good as they appear at these moments, there is inevitably a fall-off as the quality of opposition improves and the expectations grow. Golovkin is good but I maintain Ward and Froch KO him. It's possible you TSS contributors (who I love reading by the way) may have more faith in him than his management. Let's see if his people sign a contract with either Ward or Froch if they get the chance. If they don't - you have your answer about what they think would happen up at 168.

teaser says:

yup...I am on the Triple G bandwagon now...Froch's lack of balance and speed would be his undoing....even with that good jab....the body attack would eventually stop him...his only chance would be his punch ...GGG will bust up his hands trying to knock him out any other way

Radam G says:

WOW! I just tried to stay away from that ridiculous myth and lie, but my race-horse attitude got the best of me. YUP! Asians' "comsumption of dogs and cats" is just as real as "Africans comsuption of each other and white women." WOW! How can a modern-day person in a major city such as the Big Apple still believe in mythical hateful jingotistic bullsyet? Maybe your arse have Asians mixed up with those dumb-arse rebels in Syria that eats the hearts of soldiers. And the U.S. government is now supporting those arsehole as it supported criminals of Asia in many wars. Soon naive Yank soldiers will be in Syria dying to protect true cannibalistic arseholes.

We Asians will keep making stuff for your dumb arse and kicking arses finanically. OMFG! You keep paying your fees to your internet services so that you can continue to beef and make up syet in cyberspace. I hope that your syet never go COLD. You are a ___ ____ to HOLD!

WOW! It must be terrible to be untraveled and have to make up bullsyet about peoples of the world. YUP! "Asians eat dogs and cats." "Africans are cannibals and eat white women for desert." "Australians eat too much kangaroos." "Arabs eat too many camels." "The Japanese eat too many Moby D!cks." Hahaha!

OMFG! All the world peoples are terrible, except the ones born in America wasting their lives away with hatred, lies and big-time bullsyet in CYPERSPACE about everybodee and dey momma. HEHEHEHE! What a place! You can never provoke me. And if you could, I won't have to use mace. You crack me up with your weak syet of juvenile-like hatred. I'm sure that you crack up a lot of other people to. Just tell the strong myths until they boneheads looking for confidence believe 'em. Hehehehe!

I wonder how many times that you have been to Asia and saw the population comsumption dogs and cats? And how many time that you have been to Africa, and saw the cannibals? Do they eat dogs and cats in Hawaii and Alaska too? The last time that I check that was Asia too, _____ _____ ______! Talking about hating dimwit! Now since U.S. Prez O is Asian born and bred, you will now say that he is fudge up because he has been eating his share of dogs and cats. What double fudge bulldoggy jive. I'm so glad that people like you just have imagine power only in cyberspace. You couldn't power up an pen-size light bulb. Serves you right.

Keep up the wack-case posting. Let the world see how stupid that isolation and none traveling will make you believe in every myth to hate somebody in-da-know-and-on-da truth who's with hard knowledge is kicking your arse. Hahahaha! ____ ____ _____ invisable one help this child, because he knoweth not what he speaketh of. Hehehe! Holla!

Radam G says:

Oh, my boxing gods! YUP! I musta' fo'got! I'm reminded of fighting in Perth, Australia, when this American Navy ship named the USS Cleveland was in port. I paid for ringside seats for the whole crew to come to the fights. Afterward, I invited them to my after party at a five-star hotel banquet super room. A couple of the sailors -- from New York -- was liquored up and bugging from snipping coke -- not the soda kind.

Anyway! They starting verbally knocking the down-under natives about all type of stereotypical nonsense and myth from eating koala to having sex with bamboons. The sailors was asked to leave. They came back about twenty minute later with two drunk African-American sailors and told them to drop their pants. The drunken knuckleheads mooned the whole crowd, And shamefully, they had purchased fuzzy tails, stuck them in their anals and holla that "Negroes in the United States grow tails after midnight." It was Five passed midnight.

Several U.S. sailors rushed those dudes, beat 'em down and excorted 'em back to the ship. The ship's captain apologized to everyone.

Another time, I fought in Olongapo City, Philippines and invited some sailors and marines from a ship named the USS Tawara. Pinays were selling the famous Pinoy bar-b-cue chicken and beef on a stick.(Those who have been to the P-Islands know what I'm spittin' about.) Anyway, about Five drugged-up Yank sailors started bumrushing the Pinays and throwing their food products on the ground, and hollering that the d@mn F*** hos were selling them "Monkey meat."

The Filipino crowd, along with other American soldiers, sailors and Marines beat da double fudged syet outta the agitators/attackers and turned them over to P cops, who I know beat them so more.

Carmine Cas, you apparently have a problem of racism and ethnic stereotypes and mythical beliefs. Wow! You once told me to "quit posing in broken Ebonics" because apparently you don't syet about boxing talk and slang that spreaded into pop culture and music, including, especially hip hop. You called me a racist for using the term "tar baby" because you don't have the proper education, and thought that I had lauched an attack on Tim Bradley's skin hue. And his skin hue is bronze colored, not black colored that street tar is. And what you wrongly thought that I was talking about. You remind me of the humbug behind the curtain.

Trying sticking with boxing and quit the dumb racist war propaganda of what people eat, because that is all that you can find about your fake boxing knowledge to attack with. "Consumptions of dogs and cats" and monkeys, bears, humpbackwhales, horses and humans for food is your weak escape from being the humbug behind the curtain in this strong boxing Universe. Knocking me or using a 100-year-old war propaganda about foods "eaten by the natives and g**k enemies won't help you to jump over a hill of rat syet in your closet.

Get from behind the curtain and go on a hot balloon ride to reality and actuality. Holla!

Raiders says:

Oh, my boxing gods! YUP! I musta' fo'got! I'm reminded of fighting in Perth, Australia, when this American Navy ship named the USS Cleveland was in port. I paid for ringside seats for the whole crew to come to the fights. Afterward, I invited them to my after party at a five-star hotel banquet super room. A couple of the sailors -- from New York -- was liquored up and bugging from snipping coke -- not the soda kind.

Anyway! They starting verbally knocking the down-under natives about all type of stereotypical nonsense and myth from eating koala to having sex with bamboons. The sailors was asked to leave. They came back about twenty minute later with two drunk African-American sailors and told them to drop their pants. The drunken knuckleheads mooned the whole crowd, And shamefully, they had purchased fuzzy tails, stuck them in their anals and holla that "Negroes in the United States grow tails after midnight." It was Five passed midnight.

Several U.S. sailors rushed those dudes, beat 'em down and excorted 'em back to the ship. The ship's captain apologized to everyone.

Another time, I fought in Olongapo City, Philippines and invited some sailors and marines from a ship named the USS Tawara. Pinays were selling the famous Pinoy bar-b-cue chicken and beef on a stick.(Those who have been to the P-Islands know what I'm spittin' about.) Anyway, about Five drugged-up Yank sailors started bumrushing the Pinays and throwing their food products on the ground, and hollering that the d@mn F*** hos were selling them "Monkey meat."

The Filipino crowd, along with other American soldiers, sailors and Marines beat da double fudged syet outta the agitators/attackers and turned them over to P cops, who I know beat them so more.

Carmine Cas, you apparently have a problem of racism and ethnic stereotypes and mythical beliefs. Wow! You once told me to "quit posing in broken Ebonics" because apparently you don't know syet about boxing talk and slang that spreaded into pop culture and music, including, especially hip hop. You called me a racist for using the term "tar baby" because you don't have the proper education, and thought that I had lauched an attack on Tim Bradley's skin hue. And his skin hue is bronze colored, not black colored that street tar is. And what you wrongly thought that I was talking about. You remind me of the humbug behind the curtain.

Trying sticking with boxing and quit the dumb racist war propaganda of what people eat, because that is all that you can find about your fake boxing knowledge to attack with. "Consumptions of dogs and cats" and monkeys, bears, humpbackwhales, horses and humans for food is your weak escape from being the humbug behind the curtain in this strong boxing Universe. Knocking me or using a 100-year-old war propaganda about foods "eaten by the natives and g**k enemies won't help you to jump over a hill of rat syet in your closet.

Get from behind the curtain and go on a hot balloon ride to reality and actuality. Holla!


I wouldn't mind racism if people had the guts to admit it.

Raiders says:

Oh, my boxing gods! YUP! I musta' fo'got! I'm reminded of fighting in Perth, Australia, when this American Navy ship named the USS Cleveland was in port. I paid for ringside seats for the whole crew to come to the fights. Afterward, I invited them to my after party at a five-star hotel banquet super room. A couple of the sailors -- from New York -- was liquored up and bugging from snipping coke -- not the soda kind.

Anyway! They starting verbally knocking the down-under natives about all type of stereotypical nonsense and myth from eating koala to having sex with bamboons. The sailors was asked to leave. They came back about twenty minute later with two drunk African-American sailors and told them to drop their pants. The drunken knuckleheads mooned the whole crowd, And shamefully, they had purchased fuzzy tails, stuck them in their anals and holla that "Negroes in the United States grow tails after midnight." It was Five passed midnight.

Several U.S. sailors rushed those dudes, beat 'em down and excorted 'em back to the ship. The ship's captain apologized to everyone.

Another time, I fought in Olongapo City, Philippines and invited some sailors and marines from a ship named the USS Tawara. Pinays were selling the famous Pinoy bar-b-cue chicken and beef on a stick.(Those who have been to the P-Islands know what I'm spittin' about.) Anyway, about Five drugged-up Yank sailors started bumrushing the Pinays and throwing their food products on the ground, and hollering that the d@mn F*** hos were selling them "Monkey meat."

The Filipino crowd, along with other American soldiers, sailors and Marines beat da double fudged syet outta the agitators/attackers and turned them over to P cops, who I know beat them so more.

Carmine Cas, you apparently have a problem of racism and ethnic stereotypes and mythical beliefs. Wow! You once told me to "quit posing in broken Ebonics" because apparently you don't know syet about boxing talk and slang that spreaded into pop culture and music, including, especially hip hop. You called me a racist for using the term "tar baby" because you don't have the proper education, and thought that I had lauched an attack on Tim Bradley's skin hue. And his skin hue is bronze colored, not black colored that street tar is. And what you wrongly thought that I was talking about. You remind me of the humbug behind the curtain.

Trying sticking with boxing and quit the dumb racist war propaganda of what people eat, because that is all that you can find about your fake boxing knowledge to attack with. "Consumptions of dogs and cats" and monkeys, bears, humpbackwhales, horses and humans for food is your weak escape from being the humbug behind the curtain in this strong boxing Universe. Knocking me or using a 100-year-old war propaganda about foods "eaten by the natives and g**k enemies won't help you to jump over a hill of rat syet in your closet.

Get from behind the curtain and go on a hot balloon ride to reality and actuality. Holla!


I wouldn't mind racism if people had the guts to admit it.

Carmine Cas says:

WOW! I just tried to stay away from that ridiculous myth and lie, but my race-horse attitude got the best of me. YUP! Asians' "comsumption of dogs and cats" is just as real as "Africans comsuption of each other and white women." WOW! How can a modern-day person in a major city such as the Big Apple still believe in mythical hateful jingotistic bullsyet? Maybe your arse have Asians mixed up with those dumb-arse rebels in Syria that eats the hearts of soldiers. And the U.S. government is now supporting those arsehole as it supported criminals of Asia in many wars. Soon naive Yank soldiers will be in Syria dying to protect true cannibalistic arseholes.

We Asians will keep making stuff for your dumb arse and kicking arses finanically. OMFG! You keep paying your fees to your internet services so that you can continue to beef and make up syet in cyberspace. I hope that your syet never go COLD. You are a ___ ____ to HOLD!

WOW! It must be terrible to be untraveled and have to make up bullsyet about peoples of the world. YUP! "Asians eat dogs and cats." "Africans are cannibals and eat white women for desert." "Australians eat too much kangaroos." "Arabs eat too many camels." "The Japanese eat too many Moby D!cks." Hahaha!

OMFG! All the world peoples are terrible, except the ones born in America wasting their lives away with hatred, lies and big-time bullsyet in CYPERSPACE about everybodee and dey momma. HEHEHEHE! What a place! You can never provoke me. And if you could, I won't have to use mace. You crack me up with your weak syet of juvenile-like hatred. I'm sure that you crack up a lot of other people to. Just tell the strong myths until the boneheads looking for confidence believe 'em. Hehehehe!

I wonder how many times that you have been to Asia and saw the population comsumption of dogs and cats? And how many time that you have been to Africa, and saw the cannibals? Do they eat dogs and cats in Hawaii and Alaska too? The last time that I check that was Asia too, _____ _____ ______! Talking about a hateful dimwit! Now since U.S. Prez O is Asian born and bred, you will now say that he is fudge up because he has been eating his share of dogs and cats. What double fudge bulldoggy jive! I'm so glad that people like you just have imagine power only in cyberspace. You couldn't power up an pen-size light bulb. Serves you right.

Keep up the wack-case posting. Let the world see how stupid that isolation and none traveling will make you believe in every myth to hate somebody in-da-know-and-on-da truth who's with hard knowledge is kicking your arse. Hahahaha! ____ ____ _____ invisable one help this child, because he knoweth not what he speaketh of. Hehehe! Holla!


Um yeah twist my words Radam, how do I believe this? Simple ask asians them lmao. I have traveled not to the orient, I have traveled to Europe. But I need not when I have friends who are from China, Korea, etc telling me that it is not uncommon for that to happen. Criticize my government all you want, I am just as much as critic of the US' support radicals and terrorism. But to say Asian societies haven't committed atrocities themselves utter bullsh**. Here's the thing Radam whenever someone brings up a valid point. Go take a look at the "meat market" in Guangzhou, China, to say all asians consume feline and canine meat is ignorant. But to say there are meat markets to provide them as delicacies in restaraunts and FUR TRADES in China is entirely true. I am no racist, I am just a very passionate animal lover, and who ever harms them I am very critical of.

Did I ever state anything about the US being superior to other countries? Infact if you knew me you'd know I am huge a critic of this government and society, however I have not brought those topics onto this thread really until now. You're calling me a racist when you're prejudging me, you are a hypocrite and prejduce. You're blinded by your asian pride, acting as if Asians are the superior. So as long as keep spitting your ethnocentric bullsyet I am going to be critical of you,

Carmine Cas says:

I wouldn't mind racism if people had the guts to admit it.


Yeah and you also said Lou Ambers knocked out Hammerin Hank and you'd take that too the bank. looks like you owe me money. You have yet to "man up" to that hiccup. You also said Pacquio's previous two knockout losses were much worse than the one Marquez dealt him. Are you blind lmao? No I am not racist, you are prejudice basing my posts that you twist in your mind, categorizing me as the stereotypical American. Yet you have said in your previous posts that pinoys have beaten African Americans in the ring more than vice versa indirectly indicating racial superiority in the ring.Your ethnocentrism blinds you my son, and what was your boxing alias name? I'll gladly meet you in person to have an educated discussion, but I live in NY and you live in California? Funny you are critical of our government yet you claim to have dual citizenship, why stay?

Carmine Cas says:

I wouldn't mind racism if people had the guts to admit it.


Yeah and you also said Lou Ambers knocked out Hammerin Hank and you'd take that too the bank. looks like you owe me money. You have yet to "man up" to that hiccup. You also said Pacquio's previous two knockout losses were much worse than the one Marquez dealt him. Are you blind lmao? No I am not racist, you are prejudice basing my posts that you twist in your mind, categorizing me as the stereotypical American. Yet you have said in your previous posts that pinoys have beaten African Americans in the ring more than vice versa indirectly indicating racial superiority in the ring.Your ethnocentrism blinds you my son, and what was your boxing alias name? I'll gladly meet you in person to have an educated discussion, but I live in NY and you live in California? Funny you are critical of our government yet you claim to have dual citizenship, why stay?

Carmine Cas says:

Oh, my boxing gods! YUP! I musta' fo'got! I'm reminded of fighting in Perth, Australia, when this American Navy ship named the USS Cleveland was in port. I paid for ringside seats for the whole crew to come to the fights. Afterward, I invited them to my after party at a five-star hotel banquet super room. A couple of the sailors -- from New York -- was liquored up and bugging from snipping coke -- not the soda kind.

Anyway! They starting verbally knocking the down-under natives about all type of stereotypical nonsense and myth from eating koala to having sex with bamboons. The sailors was asked to leave. They came back about twenty minute later with two drunk African-American sailors and told them to drop their pants. The drunken knuckleheads mooned the whole crowd, And shamefully, they had purchased fuzzy tails, stuck them in their anals and holla that "Negroes in the United States grow tails after midnight." It was Five passed midnight.

Several U.S. sailors rushed those dudes, beat 'em down and excorted 'em back to the ship. The ship's captain apologized to everyone.

Another time, I fought in Olongapo City, Philippines and invited some sailors and marines from a ship named the USS Tawara. Pinays were selling the famous Pinoy bar-b-cue chicken and beef on a stick.(Those who have been to the P-Islands know what I'm spittin' about.) Anyway, about Five drugged-up Yank sailors started bumrushing the Pinays and throwing their food products on the ground, and hollering that the d@mn F*** hos were selling them "Monkey meat."

The Filipino crowd, along with other American soldiers, sailors and Marines beat da double fudged syet outta the agitators/attackers and turned them over to P cops, who I know beat them so more.

Carmine Cas, you apparently have a problem of racism and ethnic stereotypes and mythical beliefs. Wow! You once told me to "quit posing in broken Ebonics" because apparently you don't know syet about boxing talk and slang that spreaded into pop culture and music, including, especially hip hop. You called me a racist for using the term "tar baby" because you don't have the proper education, and thought that I had lauched an attack on Tim Bradley's skin hue. And his skin hue is bronze colored, not black colored that street tar is. And what you wrongly thought that I was talking about. You remind me of the humbug behind the curtain.

Trying sticking with boxing and quit the dumb racist war propaganda of what people eat, because that is all that you can find about your fake boxing knowledge to attack with. "Consumptions of dogs and cats" and monkeys, bears, humpbackwhales, horses and humans for food is your weak escape from being the humbug behind the curtain in this strong boxing Universe. Knocking me or using a 100-year-old war propaganda about foods "eaten by the natives and g**k enemies won't help you to jump over a hill of rat syet in your closet.

Get from behind the curtain and go on a hot balloon ride to reality and actuality. Holla!


Yeah and you also said Lou Ambers knocked out Hammerin Hank and you'd take that too the bank. looks like you owe me money. You have yet to "man up" to that hiccup. You also said Pacquio's previous two knockout losses were much worse than the one Marquez dealt him. Are you blind lmao? No I am not racist, you are prejudice basing my posts that you twist in your mind, categorizing me as the stereotypical American. Yet you have said in your previous posts that pinoys have beaten African Americans in the ring more than vice versa indirectly indicating racial superiority in the ring.Your ethnocentrism blinds you my son, and what was your boxing alias name? I'll gladly meet you in person to have an educated discussion, but I live in NY and you live in California? Shall I send you via royal mail? Funny you are critical of our government yet you claim to have dual citizenship, why stay?

And don't get your panties in a bunch when I come at you with the truth

Raiders says:

Yeah and you also said Lou Ambers knocked out Hammerin Hank and you'd take that too the bank. looks like you owe me money. You have yet to "man up" to that hiccup. You also said Pacquio's previous two knockout losses were much worse than the one Marquez dealt him. Are you blind lmao? No I am not racist, you are prejudice basing my posts that you twist in your mind, categorizing me as the stereotypical American. Yet you have said in your previous posts that pinoys have beaten African Americans in the ring more than vice versa indirectly indicating racial superiority in the ring.Your ethnocentrism blinds you my son, and what was your boxing alias name? I'll gladly meet you in person to have an educated discussion, but I live in NY and you live in California? Shall I send you via royal mail? Funny you are critical of our government yet you claim to have dual citizenship, why stay?

And don't get your panties in a bunch when I come at you with the truth. Where's your rebuttal for the whaling and fin cutting claims? You fail to provide any facts. You ain't sh** all you do is babble and babble about your so called "fights and experiences" but that's all it is, cyber talk.


He's garbage, he was amusing till you see his racism and double standards.

Radam G says:

Carmine Cas, quit being the GREAT CYPERSPACE HUMBUG behind the keyboard/curtain! Just catch that air balloon and fly up, up and away. You've been busted prepetrating a fraud after a fraud. Don't BIG LIE about it! BE 'BOUT IT, 'BOUT IT! In my near 5,000 posts, find one that is racist, ethnocentric or xenophobic! SUCK IT UP! Man UP and spit like ATOM!

Once again, tiny-size, angry humbug behind the curtain, you are sheltered, untraveled, naive and impressionable of U.S. war propaganda about customs and cultures of the peoples of Asia. Quit being a he bytch and letting bullshytology of racism, ethnocentrism, jingoism and xenophobism pimp you. Hehehehehe! You're one ism-out dimwit. Don't be like that way. Dat jive has STRAIGHT-UP DOUBLE MACK YOU! And you are too dumb and blind and mean to know it.

Asians "consumptions of dog and cat" clearly shows that the propaganda machine of the U.S. Government put your peabrain in outterspace and a metorite hit -- straight double fudged it up! Hehehehe! Take your arse to Asia, and you will see statues of dogs and cats, and d@mn live dogs and cats near them, dummy! We have celebrations where we even dress in dogs and cats costumes. In varies beliefs of Asia, it is forbidden to harm the dragon dogs -- you Yanks call 'em the bulldogs -- and Dobermans, Boxers, Grey Hounds, and Saint Bernards, to name a few. I'm reminded of being in Singapore, and a touring-American bigot about your size with your shortage of thinking for yourself and brainpowers was bytching about, quote: "How come [sic] you Orient-TOES [sic] have all these statues of pigs ev'y d@mn where?"

"Those are bulldogs, dumb-@ss hating G-I JOKE," I shouted to him. Then the ride, that we were on, passed by a cemetery. And the he-bytch idiot start knocking a funeral that was taken place by shouting: "Why do Orient-TOES put foods on the graves? Is the dead going to get up and eat it."

I shouted: "Why does a rude-@ss, know-nothing, immature Ugly-arse G-I Joke put flowers on the graves?" Is the dead going to get up and smell them."

Dude became highly irritated. And Challenged me to a fight. The driver pull over, dude and I got outta the tourist ride. He bytcheswung at my noggin, and MISSED! As think-they-are-bad-he bytches always do. I countered to his liver and he fainted. OMFG! ONE shot and the super-talking bad he bytch crumbled to sleep like Sleeping Beauty. I don't kiss and tell, so I do not kiss him with another shot to wake da hell up. The ambulance came and took his arse away. Moral of the story: He didn't know syet 'bout Asia. But was a brainwashed hating piece of work that misrepresented "America, The Beautiful." And the "Ugly American" got exposed.

Going back to my point, cyberspace bullying humbug behind the keyboard/curtain, dogs and cats are sacred animals that you find statues of and in painting throughout Asia all the way to the Middle East and North Africa. What animals do you think those statues are in Japan, Thailand, the Koreas, India, Egypt, the Sudan, Israel, Jordan, Tunisa, Lybia, Morroco, Niger, Mali and the list of countries go on and on. And what about the painting?

CC humbug, you don't know syet 'bout Asia, me or boksing." Maybe you are mixed up about imaginary "consumptions of dogs and cats." It is probably time for you to go and play with your imaginary friend. Hehehe! He is probably an Asian cannibals and loves the imaginary "consumptions of dogs and cats," humans, humpback whales, Panda Bears, Kagaroos, camels, elephants and even Martians. Hehehe!

I told my little green cousins on Mars to WATCHOUT! "The imaginary friend of Carmine Cas likes eating syet! He is already in Asia and Africa eating up all the people and animals. The only things dat da he bytch doesn't likely eat are plants, commonsense and education. He luvs bullsyetology and war-hate propaganda wide his best kick -- CC. Holla!

Radam G says:

Like the Mack told Pretty Ricky: "Stick yo'self!" Raiders have you sold your supply of crack for today? Hehehe! Does dat pipe go into your mouth or hinny. I got da Bay 4-1-1 on ya, bro! No more gang banging at the O-Town Cemetery, PLS. Let the dead rest. Holla!

Raiders says:

Mack told Pretty Ricky: "Stick yo'self!" Raiders have you sold your supply of crack for today? Hehehe! Does dat pipe go into your mouth or hinny. I got da Bay 4-1-1 on ya, bro! No more gang banging at the O-Town Cemetery, PLS. Let the dead rest. Holla!


Ha gang banging at the O-town Cemetery? Who the hell calls Oakland O-Town? You've never been to Oakland and you don't know nothing about it you are a racist coward who can't stand by the garbage you spit, you said blacks accused Manny of steroids cause we were jealous and than you turned around and did it to JMM little hypocrite.

Radam G says:

Shame! Shame! Shame! Gang banging and wars at the Evergreen Cemetery in Oakland. Let the dead REST! Don't be destroying graves because a Blood is buried next grave to a Crib! Raiders be going too far. I never saw a grave war going on between the dead. WTF! Some of the living is so full of control and hatred that they won't let the dead take their dirt naps. Hehehe! OMFG! It is going to rain. In my big toe, I got pain. Holla!

Carmine Cas says:

Carmine Cas, quit being the GREAT CYPERSPACE HUMBUG behind the keyboard/curtain! Just catch that air balloon and fly up, up and away. You've been busted prepetrating a fraud after a fraud. Don't BIG LIE about it! BE 'BOUT IT, 'BOUT IT! In my near 5,000 posts, find one that is racist, ethnocentric or xenophobic! SUCK IT UP! Man UP and split like ATOM!

Once again, tiny-size, angry humbug behind the curtain, you are sheltered, untraveled, naive and impressionable of U.S. war propaganda about customs and cultures of the peoples of Asia. Quit being a he bytch and letting bullshytology of racism, ethnocentrism, jingoism and xenophobism pimp you. Hehehehehe! You're one ism-out dimwit. Don't be like that way. Dat jive has STRAIGHT-UP DOUBLE MACK YOU! And you are too dumb and blind and mean to know it.

Asians "consumptions of dog and cat" clearly shows that the propaganda machine of the U.S. Government put your peabrain in outterspace and a metorite hit -- straight double fudged it up! Hehehehe! Take your arse to Asia, and you will see statues of dogs and cats, and d@mn live dogs and cats near them, dummy! We have celebrations where we even dress in dogs and cats costumes. In varies beliefs of Asia, it is forbidden to harm the dragon dogs -- you Yanks call 'em the bulldogs -- and Dobermans, Boxers, Grey Hounds, and Saint Bernards, to name a few. I'm reminded of being in Singapore, and a touring-American bigot about your size with your shortage of thinking for yourself and brainpowers was bytching about, quote: "How come [sic] you Orient-TOES [sic] have all these statues of pigs ev'y d@mn where?"

"Those are bulldogs, dumb-@ss hating G-I JOKE," I shouted to him. Then the ride, that we were on, passed by a cemetery. And the he-bytch idiot start knocking a funeral that was taken place by shouting: "Why do Orient-TOES put foods on the graves? Is the dead going to get up and eat it."

I shouted: "Why does a rude-@ss, know-nothing, immature Ugly-arse G-I Joke put flowers on the graves?" Is the dead going to get up and smell them."

Dude became highly irritated. And Challenged me to a fight. The driver pull over, dude and I got outta the tourist ride. He bytcheswung at my noggin, and MISSED! As think-they-are-bad-he bytches always do. I countered to his liver and he fainted. OMFG! ONE shot and the super-talking bad he bytch crumbled to sleep like Sleeping Beauty. I don't kiss and tell, so I did not kiss him with another shot to wake his dumb arse da hell up. The ambulance came and took his arse away. Moral of the story: He didn't know syet 'bout Asia. But was a brainwashed hating piece of work that misrepresented "America, The Beautiful." And the "Ugly American" got exposed.

Going back to my point, cyberspace bullying humbug behind the keyboard/curtain, dogs and cats are sacred animals that you find statues of and in painting throughout Asia all the way to the Middle East and North Africa. What animals do you think those statues are in Japan, Thailand, the Koreas, India, Egypt, the Sudan, Israel, Jordan, Tunisa, Lybia, Morroco, Niger, Mali and the list of countries go on and on. And what about the painting?

CC humbug, you don't know syet 'bout Asia, me or boksing." Maybe you are mixed up about imaginary "consumptions of dogs and cats." It is probably time for you to go and play with your imaginary friend. Hehehe! He is probably an Asian cannibal and loves the imaginary "consumptions of dogs and cats," humans, humpback whales, Panda Bears, Kagaroos, camels, elephants and even Martians. Hehehe!

I told my little green cousins on Mars to WATCHOUT! "The imaginary friend of Carmine Cas likes eating syet! He is already in Asia and Africa eating up all the people and animals. The only things dat da he bytch doesn't likely eat are plants, commonsense and education. He luvs bullsyetology and war-hate propaganda with his best kick -- CC and his clueless kick fibbing-and-cannot-find-his-way Raiders. Holla!


And obviously you don't know shyt about me or the asian cultures confusing myself with the typical American stereotype when I'm far from it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lol I am the last person to fall victim to the 4th branch, do you know who that is dumb dumb? The media, I am the first to scream false flag operation. You prob think all American are controlled by the 4th branch, you seem to hate Americans my son. "Travel" to the east coast dumb dumb there are some who are enlightened. You're GDPis on the rise yet it still falls behind the other asian nations. Does someone suffer from SPS, small p*nis syndrome LMAO You are Filipino, not Chinese or Korean so you can't speak for all asians. All I need is confirmation from chinese and koreans who grew up in their respective countries and tell me what's good. And INDEPENDENT MEDIA showing me videos of CHINESE holding various animals in cages only to be slaughtered for the fur trade.

Let me ask you something dumb dumb. If cats and dogs aren't consumed in China then why is the government finally passing legislation to make the consumption of cats and dogs illegal? Lol you call me racist but you're the prejudging me, and actually assuming the opposite. I use facts, you use stories. This isn't cyber bullying dumb dumb. This is a forum where one can express their opinion and others critique it in a constructive manner. Yet you are so blind to whatever ethnocentric pride you have that when someone challenges or disagrees with you run crying cyber bully. About a week ago "I recall" one of the other TSS members posted a link from an article from 2011, with you babbling about how pinoys have beaten blacks in the ring more than vice versa, insinuating ethnic superiority. Someone called you out and you got your panties and bunch and had a hissy fit.

You talk about manning up, yet you still have to admit you were wrong about the 2nd Lou Amber Hammerin Hank fight, you owe me that money in the bank son. And for the 3rd time dam dam what's your ring name? Now two people have asked and yet all we hear is "I'm reminded of" "I recall" this that you are the biggest hypocrite on this forum f*cking story teller is what you are. Why don't you just become a novelist. Write the filipino version of twilight, go dress the werewolves up in cat costumes, and put dog tails on the vamps LMAO. The best way to defeat a bully is to stand up to them, challenge them. You accuse others of cyber bullying, yet when someone challenges you, you bytch and turn the tables and completely ignore the points they shoot at you. You my son are the coward behind the keyboard running from the truth. Speaking of your "travels" as a boxer yet you have yet to tell us your ring name. You give stories, I give links with facts. Hahahaha you're a joke.

Carmine Cas says:

Post 10,000 posts, 2,500 might be true. You're just doing yourself a disfavor and creating arthritis in your fingers. I'd go back and find one of your racist post but then you start labeling me a cyber stalker. This guy/girl (I don't even know he seems like a fictional character and throws a hissy fit like a pubescent teenage girl) criticizes the American government, yet he acts just like it. You my foolish child are the 4th branch, people come at you with the facts and you label them as crazy, stupid, wackos etc. You "jive" and conjure up all your stories of your travels yet you have nothing to back it up but your "bullsyetology" You create this "optical illusion" of being a former pro boxer for people to believe your stories. You're fake, prove me wrong state your ring name coward behind the keyboard

amayseng says:

Debate and argue back an forth all you all want.

Just drop the name calling and it's all good.


Name calling is for those other inferior posters and sites.



Dot ruin this one with that bull ****.

brownbomber says:

Debate and argue back an forth all you all want.

Just drop the name calling and it's all good.


Name calling is for those other inferior posters and sites.



Dont ruin this one with that bull ****.


@amayaseng

I agree with you. You have made good points on this forum and I appreciate that. Peace

brownbomber says:

Post 10,000 posts, 2,500 might be true. You're just doing yourself a disfavor and creating arthritis in your fingers. I'd go back and find one of your racist post but then you start labeling me a cyber stalker. This guy/girl (I don't even know he seems like a fictional character and throws a hissy fit like a pubescent teenage girl) criticizes the American government, yet he acts just like it. You my foolish child are the 4th branch, people come at you with the facts and you label them as crazy, stupid, wackos etc. You "jive" and conjure up all your stories of your travels yet you have nothing to back it up but your "bullsyetology" You create this "optical illusion" of being a former pro boxer for people to believe your stories. You're fake, prove me wrong state your ring name coward behind the keyboard


HA HA HA HA HA!!!

He is right. Y

brownbomber says:

Ha gang banging at the O-town Cemetery? Who the hell calls Oakland O-Town? You've never been to Oakland and you don't know nothing about it you are a racist coward who can't stand by the garbage you spit, you said blacks accused Manny of steroids cause we were jealous and than you turned around and did it to JMM little hypocrite.


Thank you raiders, yes he did. O town?? U are right. Go raiders, I like our off season moves

the Roast says:

Radam fighting with everyone never gets old to me. I love it! A deepwater fight on the undercard too? Pinch me I'm dreaming! Gotta get back on set, fight on boys...

Radam G says:

@ the Riast, hehehe! I'm the only Pinoy representing nowadays. And these cyberhopes and cyberjokes come at me in all types of sneaky pseudonyms to strike at me with hatebombs and shoot at me with racist killaraid. No shame in their game. And they try to fool the Universe by the covering of posting under a new name. But their aura and syntax are the same. Danggit! I think that I got crossed one tonight. Ips miscatch every now and then. Holla!

Radam G says:

HA HA HA HA HA!!!

He is right. You called Canelo "An invader." Stop with the racial stuff. You say "Yanks" and talk trash on the American govt, what if we called you "Other" like we say in jail or in so cal on streets when we see your people? Stop the race baiting radam, you are being a loud stereotype. Keep it boxing, and admit that Marquez ko'd Pacquiao. Stop saying anything about canelo being "white" either, you don't know anything about Mexicans or Mexico, and over there you wouldn't be welcome if u were spewing your ethnocentric hatred toward non pilipinos. I am asking you to reveal yourself or get off this site. S/o to chicanito, and stop your cyber bullying radam Dan, take the L. Peace

Dang! These fork tongues never quit! WTF! WITF would I call Canelo an"Invader?" What is he invading? Hehe! You are funny follower of fibbing. BTW! Carmine Cas, I'd take that arthritis has gone straight to peabrain. Hehe!

brownbomber says:

Dang! These fork tongues never quit! WTF! WITF would I call Canelo an"Invader?" What is he invading? Hehe! You are funny follower of fibbing. BTW! Carmine Cas, I'd take that arthritis has gone straight to peabrain. Hehe!


How many people have had a problem with you on this forum? It's you taka taka. Quit trying to be a cyber tough guy and keep it boxing. Thanks

Radam G says:

Brownbomber and your regular pseudonym, something is twisting in your cranium. Your misdirection and straight bizarre make believe won't work. Holla at one of your invisable friends. Hehehe! He's fudging up your posts. Holla!

Radam G says:

How many people have had a problem with you on this forum? It's you taka taka. Quit trying to be a cyber tough guy and keep it boxing. Thanks


About three people have a jealousy and hate problem with me and the invisable friends possessing their peabrains. Hehehe! Keeping it boxing, They cannot. Anymore than keeping the same pseudonyms. Holla!

brownbomber says:

About three people have a jealousy and hate problem with me and the invisable friends possessing their peabrains. Hehehe! Keeping it boxing, They cannot. Anymore than keeping the same pseudonyms. Holla!



Do you have Skype?

Radam G says:

Everybody skypes! Your boy Raiders is funny as heck! He shops at syet dat my owns in O-Town. We may buy the Raiders and put 'em back in L.A. and give ex-footballer SCLA Ali a job as water. Hehehe! Holla!

brownbomber says:

Everybody skypes! Your boy Raiders is funny as heck! He shops at syet dat my owns in O-Town. We may buy the Raiders and put 'em back in L.A. and give ex-footballer SCLA Ali a job as water. Hehehe! Holla!


What is ur Skype name??

dino da vinci says:

They should rate GGG's fights "V" for violence... my grandson was a little disturbed after watching the delayed reaction of Macks silent scream a split second before he spilled onto the canvas ... a writhing mass of pain. .......GGG fights like a chess player looking 10 moves ahead...thwart one of his attacks and he's in position to execute 3 more strategies. ...Always forcing the action with virtually no downtime...eventually Mack had to stop running and fight because he was getting his arse stomped anyway ........and when he did it just accelerated GGG's offence...poor kid never had a chance. Quillen said in a press release yesterday "I ain't scerred of no beast". He went on to say he would take on tonights winner. I have to wonder if he still feels the same today..... Quillen is one of the hardest punching middleweights this side of Curtis Stevens but otherwise he's not in GGG's league. I haven't been this excited about the middleweight division since Hagler ruled it with an iron fist. I guess GGG can finally be considered as a contender rather than a pretender for the P4P Throne.


You were 'all in' on him early. Nice call.

brownsugar says:

Thanks for the kind words Dino... I been screaming about GGG for 2years ...but can't claim any special innate intuition or clairvoyant boxing knowledge.. Predicting the rise of GGG was as easy as predicting the rise of a young Roy Jones or SRL...the same signs were there, I just took a little extra time to verify his amateur career...You can witness GGG handling at least 4or5 champs ...former champs and elite contenders like a future star.... Only wish I had been as correct with my forecast of Ishmayl Sillahk...but that's boxing for ya.

brownbomber says:

@radam
Just out of curiosity, why don't you like al haymon, is it from personal experience? Most of the fighters I deal with say that top rank and bobby arum are much better in providing accommodations pre fight as well as being up front with the contract as compared to golden boy who does not usually give a lot of spending money for food or flights for family members. Just wondering, I still don't know who you are but based on what you wrote I know you are someone.
Thx

Radam G says:

I just hate the "Shadow['s]" tactics. Dude is hired by some many because he can make thing disappear. For instant, Money May has been tagged with roids all up in his arse a few times in Sin City. Al Capone -- I mean Al Haymon -- just have the powers that be to make Money May's used of steriods X for his hand legal in Nevada and Michigan. And when Money May was popped again, the Shadow just have the powers to be to move the ratio up 4-to-1 to 6-to-1. BTW, when Andre Berto was put on suspension for roids and PEDs, the Shadow made the corrupted Cali Commission said that it was in California, so Berto was free to fight in Cali. Of course, the Cali Ghost kicked his arse.

The game is seedy. And Haymon fits in well. He and I don't run in the same circles. But not hate from me. I'm just down with O-P-P! Yall know me. Hehehehe! Holla!

brownbomber says:

I just hate the "Shadow['s]" tactics. Dude is hired by some many because he can make thing disappear. For instant, Money May has been tagged with roids all up in his arse a few times in Sin City. Al Capone -- I mean Al Haymon -- just have the powers that be to make Money May's used of steriods X for his hand legal in Nevada and Michigan. And when Money May was popped again, the Shadow just have the powers to be to move the ratio up 4-to-1 to 6-to-1. BTW, when Andre Berto was put on suspension for roids and PEDs, the Shadow made the corrupted Cali Commission said that it was in California, so Berto was free to fight in Cali. Of course, the Cali Ghost kicked his arse.

The game is seedy. And Haymon fits in well. He and I don't run in the same circles. But not hate from me. I'm just down with O-P-P! Yall know me. Hehehehe! Holla!


Ha ha ha
Thx

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