Floyd Doesn't Always Get His Facts Straight |
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| Written by Raymond Markarian | |||
| Wednesday, 13 March 2013 19:25 | |||
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In an interesting gripe today between Floyd Mayweather and Andre Ward , arguably the recognized heir to the pound for pound throne, on fighthype.com, Mayweather took a poke at the Bay Area champ. “The only people that know him are in the boxing world. Floyd Mayweather is a worldwide celebrity,” Mayweather told the website. Apparently Mayweather didn’t think kindly of Andre Ward’s decision to cheer for fellow Bay Area native Robert Guerrero to beat Mayweather in their upcoming May 4th fight. Floyd continued, “I sold out an arena in the Bay Area maybe 12 or 13 years ago. Listen, I don’t know how many people exactly live in Oakland, but I love the fans in Oakland. Not knocking Andre Ward, but he can’t sell tickets nowhere. This is the only guy I know that’s a gold medalist, but nobody know he’s a gold medalist.” Ward’s response, “If Floyd Mayweather has a problem with me or something that I said, he can pick up the phone and we can talk about it like men.” It’s hard to gauge where Floyd’s gripe comes from because Ward publicly praises Mayweather’s fight game. Then again, Ward is not a Mayweather “yes man,” and seems cut from a different cloth socially. He is not an Adrian Broner prototype, a Mayweather mini-me. Ward is a different dude. Here is the truth. On November 10th, 2001, Floyd Mayweather vs. Jesus Chavez did not sell out the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium in San Francisco. As a matter of fact, the 7,000-seat arena where Mayweather held his 27th fight was also the longtime home of the boxing golden gloves in the Bay Area. And according to sources, many of the tickets for that Mayweather fight against Jesus Chavez were given away for free. Meanwhile Ward has only fought 26 times so far in his career. And when he fights in the Bay, it is in the Oracle Arena, not a ballroom. He also competes with the Raiders, Oakland A’s, 49ers, and the Giants in the Bay Area to promote those events. According to sources, Ward’s last fight against Chad Dawson did a gate of over one million dollars. And before Ward jumped on the HBO ship, the Bay Area fights he had were not financially driven by Al Haymon or one of the prominent promotional teams of Golden Boy and Top Rank, respectfully speaking. After 26 fights Andre Ward is the best fighter in the sport or somewhere close to it, while Mayweather was struggling to sell out auditoriums at the same point in his career. There is no knocking the status of Mayweather. But maybe he should practice some humility. Perhaps he deserves praise based solely on the merit of his long-standing reign at or near the top of the boxing heap, but his empire was not built overnight and he rode the backs of other boxing stars before making it to the top. When Mayweather fought Arturo Gatti and Oscar De La Hoya he was on the B side of the promotion. And those were English fans screaming for Ricky Hatton in 2007, not Floyd’s. SouthPaul says:
The Son Of God vs the self made WWE money villain. In God Andre trust, but, Benjamin's are Floyd's must. The fight would totally sell but too bad weight separates 'em. Damn. Excellent match up... Radam G says:
Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Dangit! My bad! I should've told Money May back then that the gate was inflated. In the Bay area, Money May couldn't wear SOG's jockstrap. BTW, Money May has never sold out a place in his own state of Michigan. I guess he is just bulljiving to build the Sin City gate for his ghost beatdown with the Cali Ghost. ali says:
I couldn't agree more with this article Mayweather got his panties in a bunch cuz Ward said he's rootingfor the ghost. That's his boi Robert goes to Ward fights and supports him this nigg@ is gets way to emotional about weak sh!t. deepwater says:
Bravo good article . Ward acts like a man . Floyd has mental issues and split personality disorder. Carmine Cas says:
Money comes and goes (especially with floyd's gambling habits) but legends are immortal. When it's all said and done, Floyd will not be mentioned in the same group as Robinson, Armstrong, Ali, Leonard, Duran, etc. But Ward is earning his way there, much respect to S.O.G. Floyd has even admitted that he'd rather have more money in the bank than be remembered as the greatest, ignorant a** fool ali says:
Damn Floyd have a little humility Radam G says:
Wow! Let's not get too emotional. Despite all Money May's emotional illnesses, he will be mentioned in the same group as the above. Both Sugarmen suffered from mental misbehaviors and beating the hebejebeeez outta their wives. And Duran even once cussed at Leonard's wife while rubbing himself. And Homicide Hank Armstrong "did a lot of dirt before getting saved," in his own words. SouthPaul says:
Well said, Radam. I entirely agree. amayseng says:
i think floyd looked and sounded a little punchy in his fox and showtime interviews this last month. Carmine Cas says:
I wasn't referring to his out of the ring actions, I was referring to his selection of opponents, even he is mentioned with them there will always be a question mark on his resume, ain't no denying that amayseng says:
and you know another thing, money this money that.. Carmine Cas says:
Interesting list, but I think an argument at #1 could be definitely made amayseng says:
Oh I am definitely biased on that list carmin. Haha. Radam G says:
Wow! Just so that you will know there are 10 questions on Sugar Ray Robinson's resume about who he would not fight or give a rematch to. Plus the Sugarman got five gifts according know-their-syet witnesses, tons of archives, the FBI, DIA and the Library of Congress. Even weak boxrec has documentation of the gifts given to the Sugar one. The boxer, who has not ducked and "cherry pick opponents" cast the first stone!" SouthPaul says:
Tio Mamoy is wise man. He once served as the chief sparring partner to Father Time. Radam G says:
Hehe! SouthPaul, when he wake up from his nap, he's going to be sounding: "Puck, SouthPaul! I've catch a boat to the states and whup his @ss and Uncle Sam' and 10 people who look like 'em! Hehehe! brownsugar says:
Uh-oh. I hear Ali and B-Sug on the way. Where is Real Talk? Hello Dave.. I read 40 or 50 boxing articles a day and watch hours worth of historical boxing video every week on YouTube just because I'm just that kind of fanatic when it comes to my favorite sport. So you know I had something to say about Floyd's most recent media gaffe. Ward has supported Floyd in the media every since his acomplishments in the supersix earned him access to a pulpit with which he can speak to the entire boxing community. Even when Floyd was mired in scandal from his domestic abuse case.... and received universal criticizm for sucker punching Ortiz....Ward refused the opportunity to publicly speak non-supportively of him...even saying that he was himself a bit of a protégé of Floyd's boxing style. The ultimate compliment. Mayweathers' comments cannot be condoned by any boxing fan who lives in the context of the real world. Floyd's lack of concept of things spiritual is embarrassing for a man his age. Floyd could benefit himself by letting Ward mentor him in this area so that he doesn't make the grievous error of speaking out of context again about things he couldn't possibly comprehend. When it comes to rash outbursts... Floyd is the king of compulsive comments... the more competitive the upcoming fight...the more irrational the comments..expect more of these random outbursts as the Guerrero fight draws closer. ali says:
B-sug right on point stormcentre says:
During the lead up to Floyd's fight with Oscar, Floyd talked absolute rubbish then too. dino da vinci says:
Wow! Just so that you will know there are 10 questions on Sugar Ray Robinson's resume about who he would not fight or give a rematch to. Plus the Sugarman got five gifts according know-their-syet witnesses, tons of archives, the FBI, DIA and the Library of Congress. Even weak boxrec has documentation of the gifts given to the Sugar one. The boxer, who has not ducked and "cherry pick opponents" cast the first stone!" That is what I thought! In the Filipino Waray accent of my Tio Mamoy: "Ev'y muthapucka great boksinero duck and padded his record." Sugar Ray Robinson and Jack Dempsey are the only superchampions who used boxers' color, ethnicites and races to duck them. Everybody who ever box has at least an iota of seediness and bullsyetology in him/her. A spade is a spade. I will always call it that and not try to hide in the shade. Holla! Ali & Marciano to name two. I could name 1,000 fighters who feared no one and ducked no one. World Champions and world contenders to be precise. Radam G says:
Not TRUE, ddv! GOAT Ali ducked the heck outta a rematch with Doug[las] Jones after getting a HIGHLY disputed, close decision. Holla at the bout on Youtube or Daily Motion. The GOAT also ducked Ken Norton in a WBC-ordered fourth match and then lost to "Neon" Leon Spinks. I was a toddler at both Norton and Spinks bouts in 1976 and 1978. I don't have a personal remembrance of the Norton bout. But I have a CLEAR one of the Spinks's bout, because -- for one thing -- Mr. T was Leon's bodyguard and was spooking da holy hebejebeez outta my bad @ss. I kept eyeballing that dark-shades-wearing [then] chocolate-colored Hulk-looking kick@ss and talking jive even back then. Hehehe! [Now Mr. T is/was never full of roids or PEDs. After he befriended me, gave me a bit roll in his television episode -- "The A Team" -- he made me drink cow milk. And you know that is so terrible-tasting jive.] McHomer says:
Floyd is busy running his mouth to sell tickets. Both guys are incredible fighters but as human beings one is full of class and the other is a turd. dino da vinci says:
Radam, the man fought Foreman, which is the closest thing the world will ever experience to 'Man vs. Train' with man winning. I see no Marciano response so I'll stay in New England and add Willie Pep, Marvin Hagler and Vinnie Pazienza. Then I'll go back to Louisville if need be. Radam G says:
You probably won't get a response to Mariciano. There just rumors about him coming back from retirement. That doesn't count. It is all right to duck muthasucka when you have retired and are considering a comeback. Rocky did whup da GOAT Ali in that computer bout. Holla! Radam G says:
Pep, Hagler and Paz did slide and duck. For one thing Hagler paid off Don Curry to not fight Leonard, so that he could. Then he refused to fight Curry. Holla! Radam G says:
You probably won't get a response to Mariciano. There just rumors about him coming back from retirement. That doesn't count. It is all right to duck muthasucka when you have retired and are considering a comeback. Rocky did whup da GOAT Ali in that computer bout. Holla! Radam G says:
Pep, Hagler and Paz did slide and duck. For one thing Hagler paid off Don Curry to not fight Leonard, so that he could. Then he refused to fight Curry. Holla! dino da vinci says:
Pep, Hagler and Paz did slide and duck. For one thing Hagler paid off Don Curry to not fight Leonard, so that he could. Then he refused to fight Curry. Holla! No. Hagler's last fight with Leonard marked the end. He went into a funk, felt he was cheated. (Maybe yes, maybe no.) He in no way ever ducked anyone. Also, I don't recall any step aside money paid to Donald. Didn't have to, they were fighting for Marvin's title, not Ray's. As for the others, I need names, Radam, I need names! Radam G says:
Marvin Hagler ducked out of a verbally agreed fight with Don Curry. Curry sued! The court found the sue legit -- no syet! The Marvelous One and Sugar Ray Leonard and company paid Curry BIG step-aside moolah and a promise that he'd fight the winner. Holla at TSS super-investigative boxing journalist S-To! He can find a Hagler invisible single on a wolf's arse. Radam G says:
Ddv, you can probably Google all of this jive. And I will be proven 100-percent right. Ducking -- depending on your definition -- is just as much a part of the game as jabbing and hooking. Holla! Carmine Cas says:
Yes murder's row being some of the fighters, but it's much more clear to discriminate against Floyd's resume, it's recent lol Carmine Cas says:
Well said Storm, Ward is a class act brownsugar says:
Ali & Marciano to name two. I could name 1,000 fighters who feared no one and ducked no one. World Champions and world contenders to be precise. RG,... I could easily name another thousand... and I'm old enough to have seen it with my own eyes,... google is totally unnecessary. The TSS is privy to too many knowlegible readers (those who just read, post, or do both) to go for the okey-doke-sucker-punch. brownsugar says:
Floyd is busy running his mouth to sell tickets. Both guys are incredible fighters but as human beings one is full of class and the other is a turd. Nice words McHomer,... not trying to pick on your words... but I think Mayweather is more multidimentional,... he's definitely a turd on the build up to a fight... but afterwards I do believe he does infact learn from his mistakes. StormCentre summed it up by saying Floyd pumps himself up into a near Berzerker Mode verbally during hype mode... However it doesn't totally define the true character of the man. Radam G says:
Every single great boxer fear and have ducked. Anybody inside the game or know game knows this. It is a hard fact, not a Money May's bag. Late, great James Brown -- an ex-boxer himself -- would tell you: "Poppa don't have a brand new bag!" Holla! SouthPaul says:
Speaking for myself ..let it be clear while I don't find Floyd particularly interesting outside the ring ...neither do I believe he's some big bad evil human being. Not at all. I know for a fact he's done all sorts of good charity work. Respect! On the flip side ...boxing inside the ring and outside of it..is real life stuff...this ain't WWE...so one needs to be held accountable for their absurd behavior. DaveB says:
Are we calling ducking the avoidance of a fight because of fear of getting beat? Or is ducking avoiding a fight because there is a better opportunity to make more money fighting another opponent but if the guy you "ducked" to fight the second guy offered more money you would have fought the first guy? Some fighters avoid because of fear, some avoid because financially there are better things on the horizon. I don't mind the second kind of "ducker". Especially if they fight really good fighters that have a really good chance. They should get paid well for that. DaveB says:
Wow, B-Sug, You just did a B-Sug 3:16 on Floyd. stormcentre says:
None of my posts suggest Floyd is a bad person (insecure, rubbish talker at times, cautious with opponent selection, impulsive and childish; yes). And I'm not suggesting anyone is saying that either. Radam G says:
@DaveB, I'm spittin' about the whole NINE! There are many reasons and seasons for ducking. But ducking is ducking. Just like there are many reasons and seasons and treasons -- Hehehe -- that we die. But dying is dying. So to me, just call a spade a spade. Too many readers up in this Universe are caste-tized -- my word. But to me, it is no high or low caste for any boxer. Fright or finance ducking is ducking. Ducking is a parts of the whup-@$$ game, just as dying is a parts of the living game. On this planet, everybody dies, even if he rises in three days. SouthPaul says:
Uncle Mamoy once ducked cardiac arrest only to be forced to face his mandatory stroke but he won that by TKO. Radam G says:
The baddest muthasucka to me who is the best ducker is the one who put it on death. Hehe! Those d@mn Egyptians of ancient times fooled everybodee and dey momma back then by being put in pyramids and told you that they were going to go to some special afterlife with all yo' syet. But the then thieves and the now Pyramid robbers know better than that syet. Hehehe! Radam G says:
Tio Mamoy is a bad mutha -- "SHUT YO' MOUTH! I'm just talking about Tio Mamoy! Hehe! Holla! amayseng says:
When hasn't Floyd put his foot in his mouth. Real Talk says:
@ Dave B, Real Talk keeps it 100 an I agree with this article. If I was around Floyd an in his circle he would know. He could read my face or I would tell him we got business to handle and focus, but then again what do I know...this could be promoting. This is good pub for Andre Ward and from a promotion perspective it's gold. Some of the things he said rubbed me the wrong way but that's what Floyd does, he moves you one way or the other and he's the formula down cold. On top of that he's training and dieting and I don't know about ya'll but that makes me real mean and grouchy. May and Ward are two of my favorite fighters along with Hopkins because I appreciate the styles and skills. I was going to say humble yourself in the sight of the LORD an if he was sincere then yes, humble yourself, but again this can be that WWE style of promoting and pulling a play from Mcmahon's playbook. If that's the case then Floyd is using marketing genius and helping his brother Andre Ward. It's funny how my comments started one way but morphed into something else. The mind is in motion plus GOD reveals things to me. This may be GOD using Floyd to usher Ward through the door as the next PPV titan and prosper him. Time will tell. Dueces amayseng says:
i dont think floyd is helping promote his friend Ward, this was a boxing interview for the hardcore, not the mainstream.. Radam G says:
Don't believe the ghettoganda -- a word of Don King -- Lil' Floyd has been rich his whole life. He is just now mega-rich as a spoiled middle-age adult and a boxing elder. Holla! Radam G says:
Don't believe the ghettoganda -- a word of Don King -- Lil' Floyd has been rich his whole life. He is just now mega-rich as a spoiled middle-age adult and a boxing elder. Holla! teaser says:
I don't think any boxer is "scared" to face another fighter...ducking is part of the business strategy ...Floyd is a gambler and weighs the odds of each fight comparing risk and reward...Oscar was a big risk but the reward outweighed the odds..any fighter only has so many fights in them and the harder the fights the less of them there are...like radman says this is prize fighting and Floyd understands this oh so well...money money money stormcentre says:
Being scared is an interesting subject with boxing. Radam G says:
Way to storm, Storm! You well READ and straight Centre in the reality of the actuality the legit, not any of dat bullsyet! Keep posting and telling it like it is. Holla! stormcentre says: Thanks RG amayseng says:
It's not always fear.
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Floyd Mayweather is the most popular fighter in boxing, maybe the most popular athlete in sports, but he doesn’t always get his facts straight.





Uh-oh. I hear Ali and B-Sug on the way. Where is Real Talk?