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Ariza Unhappy Pacquiao Not Doing Strength and Conditioning

BY Michael Woods ON November 29, 2012
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Pacquiao media day 121128 003aPacquiao has stayed loyal to Ariza though many folks have tried to get the vocal trainer ousted. (Chris Farina-Top Rank)

Strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza made it clear that Manny Pacquiao isn't doing in training camp what he thinks he should be doing to give himself the best chance to beat Juan Manuel Marquez on Dec. 8, in a video interview on The Boxing Channel.

Ariza has been at odds for some time with trainer Freddie Roach, who threatened to boot Ariza from Manny's corner for his last bout, against Tim Bradley. Ariza also said that he is impressed with the physique of Juan Manuel Marquez, and that he doesn't suspect JMM is using any funky vitamins supplied by Angel Heredia, the Mexican's S and G coach.

In a video interview with Marcos Villegas of the Boxing Channel, Ariza said that Pacquiao as always looked good in camp. This time Manny is not doing strength and conditioning, is just focusing on boxing, Ariza said, and that doesn't make him too happy. We will see if looking good in camp translates on fight night, he said.

Ariza said that Pacquiao hasn't done much strength and conditioning the last couple fights, I am assuming he means particularly the Tim Bradley fight, and that's why he had cramping issues. Ariza said he brought in an expert who works with NBAers, and that after some cramping in camp early, Manny has been cramp free.

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Radam G says:

Wow! Huh! Strength and conditioning are a catch 21. Ariza is missing the boat. He hasn't ever box. He is like an emperor, who's @ss is out in the cold without a coat. Ariza is far from a boxing fox. Holla!

Bernie Campbell says:

This guy is a champion! As Joshua Clotty said "he gets his power from God!". Manny had onions like no other to speak out against Gay Marriage! He got alot of heat from that one! It was right before the Bradley fight!

gibola says:

Strength and conditioning, all very important I'm sure but nowhere near as important as being able to fight for 12 rounds with world-class skills, discipline, a plan and the ability to adapt. Too many boxers round the world mixing with too many gurus and bodybuilders. Too many boxers in fitness gyms rather than boxing gyms, to much emphasis on modern nonsense. How did SRR, Henry Armstrong, Monzon, Duran, Leonard ever go 15 round without all of this? Well, perhaps their trainers got them fit and they sparred a lot and fought often - it tends to work. Or do we sit here and think 'Yeah they were great in their times but can you imagine how great would Armstrong or Duran have been if they had Alex Ariza?'

Cabby says:

One had to imagine why Freddie Roach and Ariza are at odds. In my opinion, Ariza, just a dietician, is trying hard to get the pristege of being the maker of Pacquiao. He is trying to tell us that without him Manny will be nothing. Wow! Pacquiao have shown the world who is is in boxing before we even heard the word or name, Ariza. I have a sneaky suspicion that he is a closet admirer/fan of Marquez. Freddie Roach should make good his words.

ali says:

Wow! Huh! Strength and conditioning are a catch 21. Ariza is missing the boat. He hasn't ever box. He is like an emperor, who's @ss is out in the cold without a coat. Ariza is far from a boxing fox. Holla!

I'm with u on this one triple O.G

ali says:

@Gibola Ariza wouldn't have made the greats any better all this new age stuff ain't sh$t

Radam G says:

Ariza is just ¢o¢ksure and has a BIG ego. But he needs to let it go, or he will be a boxing's strength-and-conditioning coach luv T-K-O! He is not an old-schooled joe. He is just a New-Jack ho.

New Jack is all about hype and bulking bodies for show. But know how to correctly fight, they don't know. On the scale of whup@ss, the need for this bulking-up strength-and-conditioning training is extremely low. The grass in my yard, New-Jack muscle-bound ___ ___ couldn't mow. C'mon my highest regarded superscribes, Ariza doesn't understands the fundamentals of how boksing's whole nine and whup@$$ flow. Holla!

brownsugar says:

I don't know what to believe when Ariza talks... He was bragging about how Paq was going to demolish JMM the last time.. while looking at the camera and telling Paq "so you're do this the way we talked about, right?".... Then he appears a month later saying "if Paq would have followed my instructions he would have won the fight"....It's the same misleading hyperbole every time...And surely JMM is only going be focused on what happens in the ring. The preflight gibberish coming out of paq's camp is getting old. This fight could go either way.

xviper says:

ariza could be right..filipinos tend to be hard nose even if its for thier own good..will see dec8..atles now manny knows that the judges wont always go his way..will see how hard will he fight..if conditioning will be a factor then bravo ariza..just hope pacman wont run out of gas!!

SouthPaul says:

Ariza is just selling us his worth to the PAC camp, that, and trying his best to spite and defy Freddie. Truthfully, It's always the same noise coming out the Wildcard. Manny dropped 18 different sparring partners in like the last couple days. It's like watching too many reruns of your favorite television show. Truly hoping someone gets their lights out out next weekend.

Radam G says:

The bout is going to go one way -- TO DA MANNY! And the muscle-bound, roid-using crybaby will probably get da double fudge KAYOED! No matter what, he will kiss the canvas again. Holla!

Carmine Cas says:

Old school training seems to be the best, hence the fact fighters fought 15 rounds. But some of this modern training is good too. We'll see next saturday

ali says:

SouthPaul has been killing it straight up

SouthPaul says:

Lol, thanks, but Ive officially got a boxing headache. Too much ranting, I've annoyed myself. Lmao

mortcola says:

What the hell is up with the battles between Pacquiao's camp members. Every fight, there's some trash going back and forth. Is this some way of compensating for the fact that Pac has become a choirboy and offers no controversy at all. I am now repeating my theory from last time: You cannot renounce all your animal, self-serving ways (drink, women, gambling) and embrace scripture as a guide to life, and still happily and spontaneously enjoy tearing apart another person. Manny's sense of honor and finance keeps him in shape and doing a good-enough job I just don't think he likes to go to war anymore, particularly when it comes to harming other people. He's inhibited, second-guessing himself. He could be in phenomenal shape, but the once in a lifetime buzz saw destructor days are over.

SouthPaul says:

I'll buy a subcribtion to that train of thought. I'm watching the old buzz saw destructor now. HBO replaying the first fight. PAC looks like a damn teenage boy in this bout. 2004. Wtf!

brownsugar says:

Always good to hear you share Mortcola,.. we don't get to see enough of ya round these parts lately... (nice Pic)

I'm not throwing down the gauntlet for a heated debate... but do I have to present my opposing view.. on your most polarizing comments.

yes Paq did admit he was a womanizer and that he drank and partied...to me that's about the normal condition for the average guy.
I can't imagine what it would be like to be in a position of wealth, power and popularity that well paid athletes enjoy.

The finest babes on the planet constantly throwing themselves at me every day... wow.

So I can easily visualize Paq giving into temptation from time to time.

I could agree with your premise if Paq was an admitted sex-addict... a guy that had to diddle himself 4 times a day... and have non-stop coke fueled orgies on a daily basis.

Similarly I could also see your point if Paq was drinking so much he drove his car into his neighbors property at 3am in the morning and was doing things like closing the bar the night before a title fight.

But Paq is no Kelly Pavlik. ..... he's not a drunk.

If a man makes a choice not to drink and decides to be faithful to one woman... I don't think it makes him weak... it makes him stronger. Nobody picks a fight with a faithful family man because they know what'll happen when he gets angry.

And Every fighter on the planet (almost) regardless of faith, isolate themselves and practice abstinance before a fight,...

Haglers handlers said Marvelous Marvin Hagler got so mean by the end of training he used to spit on the carpets at exclusive hotels... and give the stink eye to anyone who said something.

Being a Christian won't disable a boxer... it will empower him.
Ward, Guerrero, and Holyfield are 3 easy examples... all three of those guys are as mean as pittbulls in the ring.

I personally believe it's a misunderstanding for folks to think that being a Christian could possibly lead to excessive passivity and a lack of agression. I challenge anyone to go without booze and sex for extended time and see how you feel... (and go to church)

I guarantee you will be ready to Kick some major A$$

Paq is a game fighter, yet he has a sense of fairness about himself... when he gets fighters in trouble who won't quit... he always steps back and looks at the ref to intervene... he doesn't want to cripple a guy who can't fight back... (like he did against both Cotto and Margarito) Paq may be slowing up a bit... and still he carries that huge weight of being expected to destroy everybody he faces... He's good,.. but nobodies that good.

Anyway, my two cents.

Radam G says:

Wow! Da Manny is as mean and "buzz saw" as ever. He is down with the God of whup-@ss. There will be no second guessing. You guys are off the mark in thinking that religion has turned Da Manny into a wuzzy. Pac-momma told him to knock JMM out. And thou shall obey thou Pac-momma. It would be un-Catholic to do otherwise.

My Yanky friends, you have assigned a stereotype of a weak-behavioring God to Da Manny. Da Manny is going to buzz saw the crybaby and beat his arse like Moses did Pharoah. Like Jesus Did the devil in the devil's own part of existence. We Pinoys get our fighting spirit from the moms, not the pops, so expect for Da Manny to conduct an extreme whup@ss violence on the canvas-kissing crybaby, because a Pinoy obeys his Pac-Mommy.

For JMM's @ss, it's going to be a lot of violence and quite bomby. Weak jive is for Protestants. Plundering and destroying is the cusadering Catholic way for the love of a strong MOTHER and GOD. G-O-D = Good Ole Destruction. Holla!

mortcola says:

Hey B-Sug! Thanks for that. Makes coming home a little sweeter. Anyway, it is not the Christianity I'm concerned with. It is the fact that Pac is renouncing at one time a whole lot of what he is. Psychologically, not theologically or spiritually, it is hard for a man to crack down on his appetites in every way but one, while keeping the bloodlust alive and well. As evidence he simply has not tried to steamroll anyone in a few years, not punching through, not going for the kill on the numerous occasions he could have. I see no physical deterioration. I see an honorable athlete who wants to put on a good show without feeling too sinful.

mortcola says:

Hey Rad - I'm looking beneath the culture and theology to the man. I see Mr. Manny Pacquiao not so thrilled with violence anymore. I will be happy to be wrong in this case, and will own it if and when.

brownsugar says:

It's an interesting concept Mortcola...your point of view has always been unique on the TSS.

Radam G says:

Mortcola! Pinoy culture is an enigma to outsiders. Getting ready to do extreme violence is a latent thing. We don't verbally or in a manifest way open up to the world like the Americans. We don't send out a red warning flag for the coming violence. Da Manny gets it. And he will tell you that with his performance, not with speeches. It is impossible to look into the whole spectrum of our tribal cutures and theologies.

Crybaby Marquez may not ever STFU with his ___ ___ ____! But he will get some extreme violence come next week. World Pac is tired of that creep. It is time to violently put JMM to sleep. Holla!

mortcola says:

Mortcola! Pinoy culture is an enigma to outsiders. Getting ready to do extreme violence is a latent thing. We don't verbally or in a manifest way open up to the world like the Americans. We don't send out a red warning flag for the coming violence. Da Manny gets it. And he will tell you that with his performance, not with speeches. It is impossible to look into the whole spectrum of our tribal cutures and theologies.

Crybaby Marquez may not ever STFU with his ___ ___ ____! But he will get some extreme violence come next week. World Pac is tired of that creep. It is time to violently put JMM to sleep. Holla!


I cannot argue Pinoy anything with you. And I hope you're right. I think there are things are are archetypally human. But whatever makes for a great victory, I'm fine with.

"B" says:

Theres always a disconnect between strength and conditioning, weight training other techniques and boxing. I have been boxing since i was a little boy and i have been a personal trainer for years with a concentration in speed and agility/yoga/kettlebell training. The problem i see with a alot of really good boxing trainers and fighters is the same problem I see with personal trainers. Its the alpha male syndrome. Everyone thinks that their own philosophy works and nothing else can work. I say this to all athletes regardless of sport ; "Once you stop learning, you start getting dumber". Boxing is a sport with a richer and deeper culture than any other sport an my opinion and we as fighters refer to the old school all the time which is great but on other other hand science is science and boxing is a sport. Trainers need to be educated on how the body works and also how different body types react to stress instead of thinking there fighters performance can only be improved by "boxing" or "getting in the ring". Now on the other hand these so called Strength and conditioning Coaches have to stop coming into camp with their own way of doing things and instead build a training program that works according to how that fighter's body works and also using the head boxing trainers insight to help the fighter. Alot of guys have it where you have your time with the trainer and the time with the s/c coach. We gotta bridge the gap and work together. Every persons body is so different and you have to know that. Trust me on this: most really good boxing trainers feel they know the best way to do everything and alot of really good p.t.'s are the same because sometimes your success can cause you to forget to soak up new ideas. I would love for more boxers to become personal trainers and enter fitness realm...especially so fighters can take better care of their bodies when there are not in camps and to train smarter. We have to learn and stop thinking we know it all. I myself feel that no matter what sport you are a part of you should make the skill aspect the main part of your prep. If you are boxer you should never do anything that doesnt directly affect your ring performance . Like when i see fighters doing military press and bench press when it makes most guys tight and bulky in your chest and shoulders. I never see yoga in boxing either. When I introduced it to my gym and the fighters saw the benifits of added flexibilty they were blown away. Lets keep learning Tss nation bottom line

Radam G says:

Wow! B, the top trainers have always had yoga in training. They didn't/don't call it yoga. But when they would see yoga,e they'd say, "that ain't nuffin' but boksin' of strenchin' and gettin' loosey-goosey."

The late, great Archie "The Old Mongoose" Moore published a book about boxing training in the late 1960s/early 1970s. You outta holla a library and get a copy of that book and "ABC -- Any Boy Can."

That book and other written about training and learning for boxing may surprised the heck out of you. The oldtimers from the old school got it right. And accepted that the sweet science consists of several sciences. The late, great boxing guru Manny Steward didn't get his book finished and published before his passing, but somebody who can should published what the late GBG Manny S has put together.

This game is surely "The threatre of the unexpected." Holla at some of the other old training books by Willie Pep, Joe Torre, Cus D' Amato, Rey Arcel and Angie Dundee, to name a few. You will be shock. A lot of these books are at the Library of Congress. A treasure of the sweet science is all over the place, so don't believe the jive about hardcore dummies in the game and cannot evolve. And don't get evolution mixed up with New Jack dumbsyet of reinventing the wheel instead of evolving it. Holla!

xviper says:

ariza could be right..filipinos tend to be hard nose even if its for thier own good..will see dec8..atles now manny knows that the judges wont always go his way..will see how hard will he fight..if conditioning will be a factor then bravo ariza..just hope pacman wont run out of gas!!


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