Kiss Mayweather-Pacquiao Goodbye |
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| Written by Lee Wylie | |||
| Monday, 07 May 2012 16:22 | |||
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MisterLee says: I also think Compubox didn't count much of Cotto's body attacks, and his small hooks, jabs, and uppercuts inside. All good. The system, the HBO crew, and many viewers are biased. imo. I had Cotto winning 7 or 8 rounds to 5 or 4 for May. Cotto pushed him on the ropes, and when Floyd tried to push his way back to the center of the ring he was wrestled and pushed and sometimes thrown/grappled back there. I like Cotto's hard jab, his sustained body attack, and sudden flurries that worked with Oscar. Radam G says: PacMan fought a Miguel Cotto, PERIOD! And KAYOED him! No darn excuses for Mayweather's weak-a$$ performance against Cotto. What was wrong with Redcoat Ricky Hatton, who Da Manny kayoed faster than Lil' Floyd. OOPS! I musta' fo'got! Pops Joy May conducted a Bluecoat comspiracy against the man he called Slicky Ricky. bongC says: The Cotto-Mayweather fight-contrary to Oscar dela Hoya's statements prior to May 5th- exposed MoneyMay more than it did Pacman. This article clearly put it in detail. It's unfortunate we're not going to see the mega fist fight happen. Radam G says: Compubox is a bunch of incompetent bullsh*t that misleads naive fans and fanfaronades. You have darn prejudice and bias human beings pushing buttons. bongC says: Weight drained? When a fighter agrees to a fight, catch weight or not, he knows what his options are and the risks involved. In Cotto's case it's the training and preparation that mattered. When he fought Manny he gambled at the thought that Pacman, going up in weight, would considerably be slower than he thought. vjoe says: If "the fight" ever takes place, the referee will be critical. If Floyd is allowed to hold like he did Saturday night, then I think he'll have the edge. But if the referee decides to enforce the rules (imagine that) and disallow or penalize holding, Pac will be all over him. (btw..I wonder how much better Cotto would have performed against PBF if he hadn't been held all night.) MisterLee says: Word up compubox sucks. I also feel Pedro Diaz was one of the important factors in Cotto's success and the game plan/defense, and also getting over the Marg fight, and more importantly not having Jo(k)e Santiago in the corner, tho no excuses, Pac beat cotto fair and square and would it again, styles make fights. Cotto could never use the same game plan on Pac b/c he's way too hard of a puncher and fast. I do think this Cotto would be more game agst Pacquiao. I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch IF pacquiao gets past Bradley, but I think Bradley will outbox him. pc! gpike says: This article has it totally wrong. Mayweather is more firmly in the driver seat than he was before. He beat a strong, resurgent Cotto who was bigger and weighed significantly more than him on fight night. He beat him clean. He showed more heart, grit and determination than we've ever seen from him and on a night when Cotto seemed to want it as badly as a man can want something, Floyd wanted it more. Pac is an easier fight for Mayweather than Cotto. Once he fends off the initial barrage of punches and he will, Pac will become the basically one-dimensional, extremely hittable fighter he is--Jab, jab left. And lets remember he hasn't beat Tim Bradley yet, which feels like its going to be harder for Pac than anybody expects. Little fast guy just like him who wants it bad. Floyd didn't stop Cotto (didn't really have to) but he could very well stop Manny (IF they ever fight). Big If. saguirre760 says: Let's remember that Pacman fought a weight drained Cotto who was still recovering from the criminal assault at the hands of Cheaterito. Against Mayweather we saw a healthy Cotto. But what we did learn about Mayweather is that it's a stetch for him to fight at junior middle, he simply doesn't have the punch against bigger men. So Money May has few options if he wants to continue his ring career. Alot depends on what happens with Pac/Bradley, Ortiz/Berto. Money May knows he needs to fight again before year end as his meter is running down. He needs a dance partner for Nov 2012, its gonna be the best performing welter who calls him out. Man you guys have to quit! Cotto was not weight drained! Cotto weighed in @ 146 lbs in his previous bout vs Clottey; that is why Cotto AGREED to fight @ 145 lbs. And Manny would destroy the version of Floyd that showed up last Saturday. Btw I'm no Pacquiao fan! saguirre760 says: I also think Compubox didn't count much of Cotto's body attacks, and his small hooks, jabs, and uppercuts inside. All good. The system, the HBO crew, and many viewers are biased. imo. I had Cotto winning 7 or 8 rounds to 5 or 4 for May. Cotto pushed him on the ropes, and when Floyd tried to push his way back to the center of the ring he was wrestled and pushed and sometimes thrown/grappled back there. I like Cotto's hard jab, his sustained body attack, and sudden flurries that worked with Oscar. CompuBox was way off; I think HBO fabricates the number to manipulate viewers; just look at the JMM vs Pacquiao fight! amayseng says: Compubox may as well be counted by monkeys because that **** is never right the Roast says: @bongC, vjoe, and gpike. First of all welcome to TSS. Good comments, good to see some new people in here. One thing. If you're gonna make an impact around here, you gotta have better names. Let the Roast suggest these changes. bongC becomes Bong Hit. vjoe becomes Violent Joe. gpike...gpike...hmmm....Godspike! Or just take Manboobs the Great. That name hasnt been used for awhile. JEK says: Thank you gpike!! I'm glad someone else saw the same fight, and pushing someone into the ropes and leaning on them equates to the same thing as holding, stopping your apponent from punching you. I also agree on Mayweather being in control. The problem is that Arum knows once Manny, who's defense is average at best (Marquez fights), I say average because he was hit over and over by Margarito, who throws a slow but consistant power punch, and "ANYONE" that can be hit period by these type fighters, will be destroyed by Floyd. Manny is Arums cash cow so when Floyd makes him look ordinary and he will, that will be the end of the so called legend, then they will say Floyd waited until Manny got old. JEK says: saguire760 - I guess you'll say Deladummy was'nt weight drained either! If Manny truelly wants to fight Floyd, let him step to him, not his manager or trainer. Let him step up and tell his promoter to make the fight, otherwise your right the fight will never happen!!! Manny "the catch weight champion" Pacquiao will be an easy target for Floyd (who has a great chin). So, he's the one that needs to start talking like he wants to fight, because unlike his other fights, the pre-fight interviews wont be a love fest with a lot of hugging and compliments. "Step up Manny". saguirre760 says:
Oscar was weight drained but that is his fault for fighting at WW; you can't diminish Manny's accomplishment especially because he was the underdog going into that fight and he still beat the pulp out of Oscar in a much more convincing manner than Floyd. Manny doesn't talk madness like Floyd,he fights; Manny wiped out the WW division years ago. Floyd just fought Cotto last week; remember Cotto, Pacquiao's leftovers? So I guess your right and Manny has no skills; has no speed, no power, no chin and gets lucky in most of his fights,...lol. Man give props to Manny; I don't like Floyd cuz he has avoided most of this eras WW while in their prime but he is the best defensive fighter of this era and second best fighter of the decade. Manny's southpaw stance would expose that shoulder roll defense of Floyds; that is why Floyd has avoided the fight and defamed Pacquiao with no proof.
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Let's make one thing perfectly clear. Regardless of how some people scored the fight, Floyd Mayweather did a masterful job in dethroning Miguel Cotto on Saturday night, in what I consider one of his best ever nights. Yes, there have been better performances in the past from Mayweather - his ring artistry in the Corrales and Gatti fights remain his signature performances - but this may have been his most complete performance in showing both his offensive and defensive brilliance. However, despite Mayweather chalking up his 43rd career win, against zero losses, you could say May 5th was the night that finally ended any and all hope of this generation's defining fight involving boxing's biggest and boxing's best, between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacqiuao.





Let's remember that Pacman fought a weight drained Cotto who was still recovering from the criminal assault at the hands of Cheaterito. Against Mayweather we saw a healthy Cotto. But what we did learn about Mayweather is that it's a stetch for him to fight at junior middle, he simply doesn't have the punch against bigger men. So Money May has few options if he wants to continue his ring career. Alot depends on what happens with Pac/Bradley, Ortiz/Berto. Money May knows he needs to fight again before year end as his meter is running down. He needs a dance partner for Nov 2012, its gonna be the best performing welter who calls him out.