Pacquiao-Marquez III: A Six-Pac Of Signing Subplots |
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| Written by Eric Raskin | |||
| Monday, 23 May 2011 20:24 | |||
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Pacman made Marquez kiss the canvas three times in the first round of this 2004 tangle, but Marquez got his wits about him, and fought him evenly the rest of the way. (Hogan) 1. Size vs. Style Radam G says:
Da Manny will do much more than make the peepee banger kiss da canvas. He will make Marquez stick to the canvas like some cheap glue. With a well-fed PacMan, Marquez will not have a prayer or clue. He is not fighting a starved 125 pounder or a 130 pounder one. He is fighting a full-grown Pinoy. Da Manny will take Marquez with a superior double tap and maybe a few predator drones. Marquez will never see what hit him. Holla! ultimoshogun says:
The best news in this article is Arum expects Top Rank and Golden Boy to start working together again...I'm still inclined to believe Marquez will still be very competitive vs Pacman, but to be honest I don't expect a win, unless Marquez somehow avoids the canvas...as for Mayweather, he needs to take care of his legal problems before stepping in the ring again...I'm still optimistic that this mega fight will eventually happen sometime next year. Radam G says:
Everybodee and dey momma always have a GREAT chance of beating Da Manny in BIG TALK outside dat squared jungle. But once da sucka step between those ropes, his arse is sliced and diced. Then the BIG TALK changes to "Manny always fights so-and-so's leftovers." Okay, RIGHT! But those leftovers keep putting BIG MOOLA into Da Manny's pockets and bank accounts. Haters hate, leftovers and long-in-da-tooth chumps get Da Manny madly paid. For Da Manny, it is all about the prizefighting, for hater and their latest "BEAT-DA-PacMAN Hope," it is about serving fibs, serving hope sandwichs and pridefighting. Holla! undisputed34 says:
well i guess ill go against the grain and give JMM a shot. if nothing else, ill go with the intangibles...pacman seems to have every advantage expect for two...heart (where i think that they are atleast equal) and boxing acumen..(where i think JMM edges pac-daddy by a tiny bit)...im basing my opinion on this...have we ever really seen pacman "solve" anybody? pacmans answer to every question in the ring has been speed and conditioning...dont get me wrong...hey, if you have it, flaunt it i say...but i give marquez a shot because atleast he wont be flustered by it. i agree with the author and ultimo...he should come in at the weight he feels most comfortable and where he feels strongest and avoid the canvas by not trying to force the fight. i'd like to see him go back to his counterpunching roots and conserve his energy because he has to know pacman is gonna bring it. with all these bigger guys pac had to atleast be aware of the other guys power..not so much with JMM. i say he should counter and turn manny all night long..and whenever he lands a clean shot and manny steps back to pound his gloves together(which he sometimes does to amp himself up) step right with him and keep it going. by no means will any of this guarantee him a win but hey, i love a cinderella story. I know this fight has an astronomically high chance of being a mid to late round stoppage for pacman but can anybody even envision what ive said happening and what the outcome would be if JMM came out and did this? ali says:
Its funny how Pac can fight Mosley coming off a lost and draw and then get on Mayweather head for fighting Zab coming off a lost. Another thing its o.k for Pac to fight Marquez at welterweight but when Mayweather did it yall Pactards killed him for it double standard like a mother f*cker. FighterforJC says:
Its funny how Pac can fight Mosley coming off a lost and draw and then get on Mayweather head for fighting Zab coming off a lost. Another thing its o.k for Pac to fight Marquez at welterweight but when Mayweather did it yall Pactards killed him for it double standard like a mother f*cker. The difference is Pacquiao as cleaned up the welterweight division, destroying THE absolute top welterweights in Cotto, Clottey and Margarito. Mosley was the final puzzle, he's a name, but Pac's gotta do what he's gotta do. Mayweather for the past 5 years avoided Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams, and until last year, Mosley after ducking him for 10 years. When Mayweather fought Marquez at welterweight, Mayweather weighed in over the catchweight. There's no dancing around this. You guys run fast and are gifted anatomically, but above the shoulders, it's a whole other story. ali says:
The difference is Pacquiao as cleaned up the welterweight division, destroying THE absolute top welterweights in Cotto, Clottey and Margarito. Mosley was the final puzzle, he's a name, but Pac's gotta do what he's gotta do. Mayweather for the past 5 years avoided Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams, and until last year, Mosley after ducking him for 10 years. When Mayweather fought Marquez at welterweight, Mayweather weighed in over the catchweight. There's no dancing around this. You guys run fast and are gifted anatomically, but above the shoulders, it's a whole other story. Really!!!!!....Let me ask you something before I answer that post you just wrote do you think its a double standard when it comes to Pac and Mayweather ....Yes or NO brownsugar says:
While this is hypothetically a mis- match... nobody deserves this farewell party more than Marquez... If Shane can get some of that Pac retirement juice....why can't Marquez?.... Pac sure likes to spread the wealth around. And He 's making sure that our favorite ICONS retire in style. If Undisputed is even half right about Marquez's chances and the masterboxing lightweight manages to have even a few good moments against Pac.....Like Radam G would say..."everybody an dey momma" will be crawling out of the woodwork to fight Pac next. Then maybe then Arum would be willing to match the Pinoy Phenom against someone with a pulse.. not saying Marquez doesn't have one but there are more interesting fights available than the comparably smaller Marquez. undisputed34 says:
The difference is Pacquiao as cleaned up the welterweight division, destroying THE absolute top welterweights in Cotto, Clottey and Margarito. Mosley was the final puzzle, he's a name, but Pac's gotta do what he's gotta do. Mayweather for the past 5 years avoided Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams, and until last year, Mosley after ducking him for 10 years. When Mayweather fought Marquez at welterweight, Mayweather weighed in over the catchweight. There's no dancing around this. You guys run fast and are gifted anatomically, but above the shoulders, it's a whole other story. Let me ask you one question my friend...when you are thinking about the african american(s) that must have terrorized you in your youth(or maybe even still today) before letting us all in on it with quotable posts like the one above, have you ever once stopped to ask yourself, "What would Jesus Do?" Radam G says:
Wow! This place is getting stereotyped out and kind of wacky and tacky. Enough said for now! Holla! the Roast says:
Good question Undisputed34, I was wondering the same thing. Radam G says:
IMHO Jesus Woulda, Shoulda and Coulda Whupped arse, just as He did when He saw gambling going on in the temple - the "House of the Lord!" I don't buy that Jesus Was a Lamb. He Was Maybe part Lamb and a lot of Lion, and Wasn't always in da Know. I'm reminded of how he cussed out a tree for not growing figs fast enough. And how He Asked: "Father! Have Thee Forsaken Me?" But maybe Jesus Forsaken Duperman -- I mean Superman -- Roy Jones Jr. Roy said that Jesus Would Be There with him. Maybe Roy 'musta fo' got" to send that text to Jesus residence behind those "Pearly Gates." Holla! undisputed34 says:
@ radam LMAO...tears coming out of my eyes..sometimes i dont understand you, but ahhh...when i do... FighterforJC says:
Let me ask you one question my friend...when you are thinking about the african american(s) that must have terrorized you in your youth(or maybe even still today) before letting us all in on it with quotable posts like the one above, have you ever once stopped to ask yourself, "What would Jesus Do?" First off, I have nothing against blacks. TWO, not one, but TWO of my very best friends are black and I like Holyfield and Hopkins, too. And Ali and Leonard and a whole bunch of black fighters. However, fact is, Mayweather only has black fans AND, only the STUPIDEST creatures, black, white or otherwise can be a fan of Mayweather. Being intelligent and being a fan of Mayweather are mutually exclusive. Therefore, all of Mayweather's fans are stupid, and since he only has black fans, then those fans are all stupid. Finally, I don't believe in the pop culture Jesus, "WWJD." That's how people get into creating their own versions of Jesus. The more important question would be, "What DID Jesus do?" Ya dig? Real Talk says:
@FightwriterJC, Pretty Boy Floyd Money Mayweather has fans of every color, creed an denomination. Thing is the most intelligent boxing minds are most certainly Floyd fans because if you understand the Sweet Science, are a student on apprentice or wizard level and appreciate the craft and skill you'll know things when you see it. Comparing BrownSugar an a couple others post who appreciate skills to yours it's glaringly apparent the difference in levels. You're a novice up in here. Dueces
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most of us pacfans who'll stay away from anything, even crimes, to watch this fight are motivated by a pervent longing to see marquez demolished unconditionally by paquiao and finally shut his urine-sipping gab up for committing the obnoxious folly of chasing pacquiao in the philippines, where marquez was being treated cordially as a guest, and relentlessy pointed out to him and all filipinos, on television and interviews, that he beat him twice. marquez's shameless candor about this exasperates pacfans, so believe it or not, this is one fight that will get unabashed support from pacfans all over the world because of that.
pacfans even wish that marquez would not go ahead with his planned tune-up fight with diaz due to the same not so impossible unfortunate occurences you mentioned so that the fight could commence.
by the way, "drinkle" made me giggle, but wouldn't "drine" be apt too?
yeah, what's wrong with endless sparring, 24 hours a day, starting today until november for marquez in exchange for 5 million dollars, instead of a tune-up fight against diaz who's now piqued for being rendered a tune-up fighter and so's promising to derail the fight by overwhelming the former?