Pacquiao To Fight Juan Manuel Marquez On Nov. 12

BY Michael Woods ON May 17, 2011
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They've engaged in two tight battles, and to this day, the outcomes are controversial.

So it makes sense that Manny Pacquiao will fight Juan Manuel Marquez for a third time. Pacman will glove up against the Mexican on November 12 at the MGM in Las Vegas, multiple outlets are reporting.

The contracted weight for the scrap will be 144 pounds, or less. The match reached fruition after Marquez' promoter, Golden Boy, passed on matching the terms offered by Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum. Pacquiao is at odds with Golden Boy, and is embroiled in a legal tangle with that outfit. He has launched a defamation suit against Golden Boy, for alleging that he used steroids, or another illegal performance enhancer.

In May 2004, Pacman and Marquez battled to a draw, at the MGM. Marquez was down three times in the first round, but held on for dear life, and came back to take the second half of the tussle. Pacman had his hand raised when they fought again in March 2008. The judges awarded the Filipino a split decision after a tight contest at the Mandalay Bay.

The first time, they clashed at the featherweight limit, the second time, at super featherweight. Since then, Pacquiao has jumped up in weight class, and has fought as a welterweight his last four battles. Marquez, meanwhile, looked out of his element when he jumped up to junior welterweight, against Floyd Mayweather, in September 2009.

Some pundits are saying that at this weight, the 37 year old Marquez won't have the same luck against Pacman, but to me, this guy just has Manny's number. At any weight, I think Marquez has the skills and strategy to give Pacman fits. What say you, TSS Universe?

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Radam G says:

Da Peepee banger cannot handle a none-food-and-water-starved PacMan. Da Manny will finally do more than knock down Marquez mutli times, he'll kayo him in about four or five rounds. And I'm betting heavily on that. Holla!

the Roast says:

I agree with Radam. If JMM really brings it, and I believe he will, Pacman will knock him out. This being a rivalry fight, there wont be any of that touch gloves, no harsh words BS we got with the faded Mosley. For however long this lasts, this will be a fight. Pac in five.

Radam G says:

Watch what you ask for. A lot of dawgs were calling out for Da Manny to fight "fast, slick, intercity African Americans." He answered that call, and now he has to go back to Mexicuting, because da brothas' top dawg won't step up and FIGHT a REAL man. Da Money sucka luvs ta bark about fictious steroids and mythic Pinoy A-side Meth, and also he luvs to go upside his babies' momma's noggin, though. Danggit!

Those callers-haters don't dig the actuality and reality of blaxicuting. They luv da Fam May's bulljive most than the thought of seeing Da Manny KNOCK Money May DA DOUBLE FUDGE OUT! At least da Peepee marahajah has some cojones, and a mythic, powerful energy drink coming out of them, so he believes. Enough spitted! Hehehehehehe! Holla!

#1 PacFan says:

This fight will show how disciplined Pac as a fighter has become since their last fight. Manny will come in with a solid jab or lead left lefts stepping to his right to follow up with right hooks. Lead left through the center of Marquez' gloves. Manny will use his movements to lure him into a fire fight as we all know Marquez will not shy away from brutal exchanges. At the end of the day it's Marquez...being a Mexican with a big heart will be the cause of his downfall. Manny will finally end this contraversial rivalry in about 7 rounds.

nashingun says:

this is pure money. marquez needs a retirement fund. period. we know jmm cant handle welter? so whats next for marquez? a sure slaughter for the stupid mexican.

FighterforJC says:

We have to commend Marquez for pursuing the Pacquiao fight despite the general consensus that at this stage of their respective careers, Pacquiao is simply too strong and perhaps too good for the battle worn Marquez, although the Mosley fight does make you wonder. Marquez truly believes that he has Pacquiao's number and is undeterred by Pacquiao's destruction of bigger and stronger men over the last two years.

Big Daddy says:

Radam U were one of Floyd's biggest Nut Huggers just a couple a years ago.. Make Up your mind please. Bragging about Manny beating up the ghost of Shane Moseley is a joke even by your (lack of) standards.

Big Daddy says:

Now remember why I stopped posting on this message board.. or any other ones for that matter. Delusional Idiots. U guys can keep Radam Gibberish and his merry band pf parrots. Im gonna spend my free time with gorgeous mestiza filipina girlfriend. Peace!

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ali says:

Radam U were one of Floyd's biggest Nut Huggers just a couple a years ago.. Make Up your mind please. Also, Bragging about Manny beating up the Ghost of Shane Moseley is a joke even by your (lack of) standards.


I agree with u 100% and Mosley ain't never been slick fast but never slick.

ali says:

Why not meet in the middle and make the fight at 140...Pac wouldn't have any problem making the weight and Marquez wouldn't have to move up so far....

GerardMcL says:

"fast, slick, intercity African Americans" - Who? Mosley? Maybe seven years ago. The second was a terrible decision and Marquez clearly had Mannys timing and number and he frustrated Manny, And despite this new found discipline, some poster believe Manny has, he showed against Mosley if he gets frustrated he gets hook happy. The weight stipulations, as in the last few Manny fights, will be key. If Marquez makes the step up comfortably I think he will at last get the decision he has deserved in at least one of their fights (probably both)

FighterforJC says:

Why not meet in the middle and make the fight at 140...Pac wouldn't have any problem making the weight and Marquez wouldn't have to move up so far....


How about keeping it at 144 and have Pacquiao weigh in at 146 and pay the extra to have the extreme weight advantage over JMM? Wait, never mind. Manny's not a cheating, coward fraud.

mortcola says:

Not so cut and dried, EM. Marquez is a great boxer/puncher, and does indeed have a good style for dealing with Manny's flaws. However, I am a firm believer that Manny was a work in progress as a rounded, technically sound fighter even as recently as the second fight. Manny's flaws are far fewer, while his strengths are considerable compared to the first few fights. At the level they both were on for the first two fights, it would always be a pick 'em fight - not close to anyone having anyone's number. This time, while Marquez will have his moments, he has not grown as a fighter, while Pac has grown hugely in skill, diversity of offensive arsenal, defense, and refinement of attack. Plus, Marquez has aged. Pac will overwhelm him after a few worthy, competitive exchanges, and it will be a violent ending.

#1 PacFan says:

It's funny how many pleaded Manny to fight an equally fast but so an so slick African American boxer to fight and then makes him look like a sparring partner their quick to take away credit.

I agree with u 100% and Mosley ain't never been slick fast but never slick.

#1 PacFan says:

I was about to write the same thing lol.

How about keeping it at 144 and have Pacquiao weigh in at 146 and pay the extra to have the extreme weight advantage over JMM? Wait, never mind. Manny's not a cheating, coward fraud.

#1 PacFan says:

It's funny because about a year ago the majority of boxing fans considered Mosley as a quick and slick boxer. But not anymore after Manny embarrassed him right?

"fast, slick, intercity African Americans" - Who? Mosley? Maybe seven years ago. The second was a terrible decision and Marquez clearly had Mannys timing and number and he frustrated Manny, And despite this new found discipline, some poster believe Manny has, he showed against Mosley if he gets frustrated he gets hook happy. The weight stipulations, as in the last few Manny fights, will be key. If Marquez makes the step up comfortably I think he will at last get the decision he has deserved in at least one of their fights (probably both)

Radam G says:

A certain readers is always selectedly agreeing to things, when one of his Ebonites disappoints him. He will save face by saying that Money May was never that good, if da Money-troubled May grow some cojones and step in dat squared jungle with Da Manny and get kayoed. But Money May loves to roll the dices. Don't be surprised to see Lil' Floyd get beat up by "Vicious" Victor Ortiz before ever gettin' ta Da Manny.

Fam May is seriously thinkin' and stinkin' about going that way. And if Money May is beaten, the notorious Pac-hater turn on Money May like chocolate brown on the Gingerbread Man. Run! Run, as fast as you CAN! Certain peeps always turn on their peeps. They have no tribal loyalty or class to accept the ending of one's greatness and/or get-awayness. I can dig why Money May hates many of his own. By them, there will be no pride for the end of the Money May's ride. Holla!

#1 PacFan says:

Sorry to off topic but I had to share this...Mayweather says he's going to retire when he's ready lmao. He's going to comeback when he finds an opponent other than Pacquiao. He says he was ready for the fight to happen but it was his OST that stopped the fight from happenning. http://vimeo.com/fighthype/mayweather-after-dark-episode-9

Radam G says:

Marquez couldn't even get a decision over a starved-kid PacMan. Da well-fed-fighting-in-the-right-weight-class Manny is going to kayo Marquez. And the Pac-haters can continue to be spittin their coulda-woulda-shoulda hope sandwichs. Reality is too much for marginalized people on the fringe to accept, so they're luvin dat mythology and make-believe. The boxing judges have conducted a conspiracy against da peepee banger, and are going to do it again. NYET! Marquez couldn't a bucket of Da Manny's spit. Holla!

Radam G says:

I guess the heat is too hot in the kitchen, and some people cannot stand it. Or maybe, they don't have a kitchen. Well, wherever they are is too hot. I hug nobody's nuts. I was and am forever a BIG FAN of Money May. Some people just apparently have a problem with reading comprehension. Money May is one of the GREATEST BOXERS of ALL TIMES, hands down. How many times have I said that? A couple years ago, there was nobody at welterweight who could beat Money May. In 1975, Larry Holmes could probably not beat Irish GOAT Ali. In 1980, he could and did. Maybe Money May could beat Da Manny "a couple of years ago." People are so stuck in the past -- "just a couple [sic] a years ago," just a couple of decades ago, just a couple of scores ago. Well, they don't understand CHANGE! "Everything must change, nothing remains the same," except for the thought order and thinking of various people. I see people in the United States who I knew when I was still peeping in my Pampers over 35 years ago. Their hair is gone or is dyed, or is white, their once good looks are gone, their shinny skin is now wrinkled, arshy and dry, some lost teeth in their grills, their six-pack abs are kegs, but their thoughts and thinking are the near exact same. The mind is a terrible to waste, but is also a thing that shrinks or don't grow. WTF! And people who keep the same thought order and thinking year after year end up being senile or with the big A.

My Uncle Mamoy -- at 108 year old -- is Da Manny oldest fan. Cali Otto Jensen at 100 years old, is Da Manny oldest American male fan. San Diegan Mrs Eva Hugh -- at 103 years old -- is Da Manny's oldest African American [female] fan. She has changed from being a fan of Jack Johnson to Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard and most recently Floyd Mayweather. One's living will change to a dead death. But one's mind can be stuck in death twice -- while living and definitely when the time comes for the dirt nap. Holla!

ultimoshogun says:

I believe, like EM, that Marquez's style will still give Manny fits even at 144lbs...however, like their first two encounters, Manny will probly score 2-3 knockdowns to secure a win in another great fight.

Radam G says:

We shall see! Da peepee banger will get whacked out, and the alibi than will be the fact dat da joker is long in da tooth. Holla!

ali says:

[QUOTE=FighterforJC;6312]How about keeping it at 144 and have Pacquiao weigh in at 146 and pay the extra to have the extreme weight advantage over JMM? Wait, never mind. Manny's not a cheating, coward fraud.[/QUOTE]

I knew somebody was going to bring up the Mayweather weigh in for the Marquez fight .....Look we all know he's not as good at welterweight so to eliminate any excuses they should meet in middle makes a whole lot of sense to me.

ali says:

[quote=#1 pacfan;6322]it's funny because about a year ago the majority of boxing fans considered mosley as a quick and slick boxer. But not anymore after manny embarrassed him right?



shane motherfuc*in mosley ain't never but a slick fighter and the people who think he was or is one don't know sh*t about boxing real talk.
Radam G says:

I can see ali saying that Lil' Floyd has never really been that slick of a boxer after Floyd loses in his next bout. Da sucka will miss out on da making of about 75 mil for Da Manny whuppin' his arse. "A sucka is born every minute" and stay that way for a lifetime. Holla!

Radam G says:

Ali changes his mind like the weather -- or is that Mayweather? Livin' LARGE in dishonesty and fringe mythology seat many. But there is nothing like da truth and BIG-TIME reality. Absolutely no stress because you won't have to clean up your latest childish mess. Holla!

ali says:

[QUOTE=Radam G;6347]I can see ali saying that Lil' Floyd has never really been that slick of a boxer after Floyd loses in his next bout. Da sucka will miss out on da making of about 75 mil for Da Manny whuppin' his arse. "A sucka is born every minute" and stay that way for a lifetime. Holla![/QUOTE]

Mayweather, Sweet Pee, Willie Pep, Sugar Ray, those are slick fighters...Radam I thought you would know what a slick fighter was when saw one but maybe you don't ....So here's what I want you to do go on youtube and watch some of the figher names I gave you and then watch some of Shane Mosley fights and then maybe if your honest with yourself you see that im right will get TSS and admitt it.

ali says:

[QUOTE=Radam G;6348]Ali changes his mind like the weather -- or is that Mayweather? Livin' LARGE in dishonesty and fringe mythology seat many. But there is nothing like da truth and BIG-TIME reality. Absolutely no stress because you won't have to clean up your latest childish mess. Holla![/QUOTE]

Stop leaving gray areas when you post somethen about me I would appreciate it lil homie.

undisputed34 says:

before this fight was signed, i said that i thought pacman would be too much for JMM at this point in their careers, but you know what..now that its official, i think im gonna go with JMM. i feel like regardless of what we say, JMM is willing to die this time or get sent to the emergency room before he loses again to pacman. i see people up here saying that JMM is old and yeah, i cant deny it, but he's found a way to beat everyone in front of him as impressively as pacman (with the exception of money may), and it can be argued that his competition was just as good if not possibly just a little better in some cases. i say if he can stay on his feet and win some rounds convincingly..he can get the split decision.

P.S... shane mosely...slugger with oustanding hand speed and above average foot speed..at his best (lightweight) shane didnt slip and counter as much as he overwhelmed with his aggression..back then he threw combo's but his weapon of choice was more the left hook to the body than the overhand right..

FighterforJC says:

JMM beat everyone put in front of him "as impressively" as Pacquiao? Uhm, no. Just about every single fight Marquez has been in, in the past 3 years were life and death matches that he had to dig deep in order to pull out the victory and he got dropped at least a couple of times in the process. Gutsy, absolutely. But no way near as dominant as Pacquiao's victories have been against bigger, stronger and faster men. I doubt that JMM would stand a chance against the likes of a 40 year old Mosley, Margarito, Clottey or Cotto. Maybe against Hatton JMM would have a chance.

At any rate, none of this has any bearing necessarily on how Pac and JMM would do against each other in November and at 144lbs. I do think it's fairly logical to conclude that JMM will be slaughtered in this match. If nothing else, Pacquiao has proven that he was capable of seriously hurting Marquez, and that was when Pacquiao was weight drained. Pacquiao was also able to hurt Marquez early. Pacquiao carries his power late, but he's most dangerous in the early goings when he catches his opponents unaware. It happened to JMM in both fights (1st and 3rd rounds), it happened to Cotto (3rd & 4th rounds) and it happened to Mosley (3rd round). And Hatton (2nd round). It's highly probable that it would happen again in November but I think this time Pacquiao fniishes Marquez in the most brutal of ways.

Radam G says:

Danggit! You guys keep changing your mind about somebody beating Da Manny. Then after Da Manny torches that arse, you New Jack thinkers, with absolutely no Mack, sing a different song. I hear it now. "Marquez was just too old, but the younger Marquez beat him twice." Yup! NYET! The psychology of Da Manny haters is quite amazing. Too bad hate cannot control one's fate. Da Manny is going to kayo da peepee banger early, not late. @ali, you have simply copy my past spit. I know slick. Sugar Shane was slick against Big Money O, and Margarito. Holla!

undisputed34 says:

@ fighterforjc..the word dominant is not snynonymous with the word impressive...floyd has been just as dominant if not more so than pacquiao, but i dont hear you cheering for him nearly as much as you cheer for manny. true enough, JMM has looked vulnerable in the past couple of years but thats to be expected with age in a young man's sport, and when you make changes to your fighting style to be more appealing to the masses..if you remember JMM didnt get nearly the attention he deserved when he was counterpunching people to death. that being said, no his opponents were not always bigger or stronger, but they were younger, and just as strong and fast as he was in most cases. and comparing how JMM would have fared against those guys you mentioned is irrelevant because at the end of the day, JMM may not have stood a chance against those guys but none of those guys gave pacman any trouble and JMM gave pacman all he could handle. JMM put no stipulations on any of the fighters he faced, and beat them with whatever they brought into the ring. as far as casamayor, juan diaz (2x) and michael katsidis at or near the top when he beat them, or toughest comp he could find at the time. and not one fight was boring. sounds impressive to me. i think marquez, should be very familiar with what pacman is bringing and like i said the odds are overwhelmingly in pacmans favor (again) but i think that JMM stands a chance, if he can stay on his feet and win some rounds convincingly. he cant stop pac, but he can bust him up some. i know im in the minority but im gonna go with JMM for the hardfought upset..


@radam.. sugar shane stood toe to toe with oscar and outquicked him...and brutalized and tied up margarito...wheres the slick?

Radam G says:

In the words of Uncle Roger May: "Most people don't kno' sh*t 'bout boksin!'" Where was the slickness in Sugar Ray Robinson when he slaughtered Jake LaMotta in their last bout way, way back in da day? As da nowadays Sugarman against Big Money Oscar did, so did Robinson to JLaM. He stood in there. When Robinson fought about 15 opponents that I could name, including Carmen Basilio, he tied 'em up..."wheres [sic] the slick?" C'mon dude! I'm a walking Bible of da game. I was born into it. I know it. Sugar Shane has been thought of as a slick-fighting African American with power for as long as he has been in boxing -- the amateurs and pros. You disappointed cats need to play semantics with somebody else. Ain't da one! Quit being boneheaded sore losers.

[I suspect that you will call Money May harsh names when he loses. Out of his own mouth. He told me that black people will turn on their own in a sec when the person loses.] You are making yourself look bad. Everybodee and dey momma know da deal. You guys just don't like the bitter taste of that running-away-to-keep-from-getting-knocked-da-fudge-out meal. Shane was not known as Sugar for being a slow, holding in-fighter. At lightweight, he was undefeated, and will go down in history as one of the greatest lightweights of all times. Holla!

Radam G says:

The psychology of Pac-haters is amazing. I'm reminded of "Who's ya' daddy?" Myth believers are just disappointed that Jimmy, "The Greek," was wrong about a certain type being superior athletes before of the way the slavers breed them to be bigger, longer in the legs and strong in the torso, especially with big, wide shoulders. OMG! What a bunch CRAP! Get over it! As Naazim says, "Manny is a modern-day Aaron Pryor," who was short in the arm and leg, and not so wide in the shoulders, but long in the heart, condition and courageous, and not believing in that "Big man can always beat a little man" made-up bullsyet. Tell me about Homicide Hank Armstrong. His little-man arse held three title at the same time. He woulda, coulda, shoulda got the fourth one if Uncle Cely G would not have been around to put that bolo on him. By the way, do you know how Asian Aaron Pryor is, Und666 -- I mean Und34? Yall oughta get in da know, so they you can post righteous flow. The real dawg probably get tired of make-believe clutter syet. Holla!

undisputed34 says:

@ radam...Lol ok, self proclaimed "boxing bible", take a good look at my user pic up there. if youre familiar with it and what it represents then youll forgive me for not being a big believer in a "bible" of any sort...i understand your explanation of "slick" in the way you described it up there better..perhaps if you explained it as clearly as that w/o all the slanguage and mumbo jumbo you usually use then we wouldnt disagree in the first place lol...i get what youre saying now...i guess my understanding of "slick" as it applies to boxing would be the styles of a gene tunney...wilfred benitez..from our generation a bernard hopkins..a floyd mayweather..guys who you can tell are doing something you just cant quite figure out how to stop it before the fight ends..i acknowledge that what you are saying is "slick" could be considered that. i guess hall of fame credentials aside, shane has fought "slickly" when he was able to..against margarito and oscar..but throughout his career and regardless of what you may have heard many a commentator/spectator and even shane himself say...shanes skill lies in his speed of hand and power.. a rare combination. not his ability to outthink and outslick his opponents. just because you and whoever "thought of him as a slick fighter" apply the term, doesnt make it a fact. you should be well aware of the truths of the sport, since you were "born into it", Mr. Walking Bible. shane, without taking away from his place in history, without downplaying his skill and heart, HAS BEEN and IS today a fighter who depended on what nature gave him to take him to great heights. he lost when his natural gifts were not enough. to my understanding that could be understood as being one dimensional, though i wont call him that.

also, just because i dont claim to have carried jack jonhnsons spit bucket, or wiped the sweat of dempseys face mid fight doesnt mean your knowledge of boxing is greater than mine. let me say that i dont express how great my knowledge of the sport is because ultimately i dont wish to compete with/ or belittle others with how much i think i know.

i dont think i mentioned a negative word about pacman i am not a hater of him nor his style..just my objective view of how i hope the fight will turn out. i will say this.. i will not call mayweather any names whatsoever if he loses to pacman or any fighter..that is not my way. i have fought and i know what it is to be a winner and a loser. neither state favors anyone in particular. what reason would i have to be disappointed?

if you dont agree with me, or find my point of view to be tototally incorrect, then i would love to know why. don't tell me your stories of who you know, are related to, or try to sell me on why the genetics of filipino/asian are all thats needed to be great. everything that i have said is clear for all to understand or challenge. i think the clutter usually is found in your posts...

brownsugar says:

I don't know, is Marquez old enough and shot enough to fight Manny?

brownsugar says:

Nice post Undisputed...don't be overly concerned about Radam. G. He's the resident GrandWizard of the Pinoy Chapter KKK. Maybe some slick Black bully took his cookies in kindergarten, who knows but we love him anyway. Your comments about Mosley are spot on....Jack trained Mosley in the art of power boxing, which uses speed power and smart aggression to run his opponents out of the ring...sadly we see little of that style remains in Mosley's repitiore. I also enjoy watching Pac .... however this rematch with Marquez is several years and 10 pounds too late...I don't see Marquez lasting 5 rounds...unless there's a great undercard..l may have to catch the rebroadcast.

Radam G says:

@und34, apparently you don't realize how up to and touching derogatory behavior your posts are to me. I don't and won't ever compare any of my knowledge of anything with any other person. As we Pinoys say, "Lahat ang mga tao ay meron mautak, pero iba-ibang isipin." [Everybody has a brain, but thinks differently.] My point is that you constantly come after me in an aggressive way without realizing it [or just maybe not giving a da*n]. I simply gave the same medicine back to you. You don't like that taste, because apparently from your environment and upbringing, you're naturally manly aggressive, sarcastic and have a great art of using semantics to hide behind your stereotypical myths and busting people in the noggins with Cain's stones and pointing at the out-of-group person as to having done it.

Why don't you ask some other readers to give you input about how latently and covertly attacking that you are? C'mon man! You and I both know what time it is. You are definitely an uncovered hater and snobbish to the ultimate max. One of the greatest example is posting that I'm selling "genetics of filipino/asian [sic] are all thats [sic] needed to be great." Wow! That is some sicko spit. Anybody who has ever been in the game of combat, know that that statement is clearly from a racist knucklehead. If an arse doesn't learn da art, or poetry in motion or sweet science, be committed to them and train, train and train, on any given day, his arse is sliced, spiced and diced. Da sucka is easy to roast, toast and pay a great cost, and dropped in da ocean from any coast.

Ind34, IMHO, you have become the new Jimmy, "The Greek." Try being humble. I'm reminded of what my buddy and fellow, whupa$$er, James "Lights out" Toney says, "You have to bring a$$, to get a$$." Don't sell jive, if you cannot stand the heat in the kitchen of reality and actuality. Tell Uncle Roger May to give you a couple shots of A-side Meth. Okay! I'm finish and will move on from commenting to you. Man, you need some work, and should stop assuming stuff and then manufacturing mythical bullspits and sublimically sneak attacking. Osama bin Laden coulda, woulda, shoulda seen dat jive comin' an ocean away. Holla!

undisputed34 says:

whats going on Brownsugar? lol...me and Radam were just having a friendly convo,poking fun at each other..nothing too serious..i think he and fighterforjc just want to see if i know what im talking about from time to time..theyre both all good with me..as far as shane goes..i think that he may still envision himself the same fighter he was 10 years ago..i think he could still have success if he could change his mental approach to the way he uses his weapons..thats what i think naazim was trying to do with him..make him more a thinking fighter..i have to agree with your view of how pacman and JMM is likely to turn out but i still am gonna go with marquez..i know it looks bad, but i dont think JMM has any less of a chance than pacs most recent competition and actually maybe a slightly better one..i mean he's been in with pac before, and yes pac has gotten incrementally better but besides bhop and money may, who else is in boxing right now is better at adjusting mid fight?

Radam G says:

Sorry B-Sug, but there were no black kids in my kindergarten class and certainly no bullies. I did kindergarden in the Philippines with bullying nuns slapping me on my left hand. Hardcore Pinoy/Pinay Catholics don't play left handedness. [This is why people freak out on Da Manny for writing with his right hand, but knocking the jive outta you and shooting and throwing a ball with the left hand. But he throws darts with his right hand.]

Besides, the only time that I encounter a "Black" bully was during my short time in an American junior high public school in San Diego, Cali. Sadly, I didn't know the code of a "Black" bully and beat the holy and unholy sh** out of him. He became my best friend for the next two months that I was in the school. My Yuppie parents than stuff me into a boring private day school -- Frances Parker. My parents didn't want me hanging out with him, or his then teen-aged big brother eyeballing my then teeny sister. The big brother and he were killed in a police drug raid, a few years ago. Dude and I hooked again as adults, and he was my friend until the end of his life. He even hung out with me around the KKKworld, including the KKKPhilippines. Hehehehehehe! Actually we have a political party in the Philippines called KKK. Of course, not American style.

As my peers -- in boxing and life -- tell me, I'm a constantly circle trying to fit in a square. Of course, I don't agree with them. I just have mudholeaphobia. Holla!

undisputed34 says:

@ radam..Really?? i am pretty surprised at that last post..but you know what let me say this..if you feel that my posts have been personal attacks against you then i apologize for that. i was under the impression that i respond to any statement that you post that relates to me. it was not my intention to post anything that was derogatory, and i dont think i have, but if you or anyone else feels that to be the case then my apology is for all. i was under the impression that my posts relate to boxing or some element thereof and were addressed to the TSS universe as a whole, while the only issues that i addressed towards you were ones that i felt you discussed openly. i guess thats the element that gets lost when communicating via text/cpu..the context in which something is being said. you are a-ok with me, though i think you love pacquiao quite alot(joke )..i have no racial preferences..that has nothing to do with the fighting spirit inherent with boxing... you might be surprised to actualy find out my heritage...

i have to say one more thing though, and take this lightheartedly since im just having a friendly coversation, it is funny that you would say that you are hurt by me verbally attacking you, while in the same sentence attacking me...all that aside, nothing that i have said is subliminal or covert..just my opinion on boxing..and i can stand the heat just fine..what about you? for someone who is familiar with so familiar with the fight business, you sure seem sensitive lol..(that statement was just a light jab said in fun..im not covertly attacking you.)

i leave you with this, Radam...Some look fierce, but are mild.
Some seem timid, but are vicious.
Look beyond appearances; position yourself for the advantage

Invisibilty is the best advantage. but if forced to a confrontation come out with all your skill - Deng Ming-Dao

like i said to you in my very first comment, you, brown sugar, the roast, mortcola, fighterforjc and all the rest of you guys i have been reading this sight for awhile and im just as much fans of you all as i am of this site. i look forward to reading your next posts..enjoy the weekend..

the Roast says:

I for one am a fan of this newcomer, undisputed34. I like the cut of your jib. I always say, we dont always agree around here but all of us blended together make this the best boxing site world wide. Keep on doin your thing UD34.

undisputed34 says:

@ the roast..thanks i appreciate it, my friend..just calling things the way i see them..

ali says:

[quote=radam g;6528]danggit! You guys keep changing your mind about somebody beating da manny. Then after da manny torches that arse, you new jack thinkers, with absolutely no mack, sing a different song. I hear it now. "marquez was just too old, but the younger marquez beat him twice." yup! Nyet! The psychology of da manny haters is quite amazing. Too bad hate cannot control one's fate. Da manny is going to kayo da peepee banger early, not late. @ali, you have simply copy my past spit. I know slick. Sugar shane was slick against big money o, and margarito. Holla!


i copy your past spit...what in the blue hell are you talking about.
ali says:

@Undisputed You got to excuse Radam he has no idea what a slick fighter is.

ali says:

@Undisputed You are right on point with your post in my eyes....I just hope you don't hold back when you post somethen cause somebody got they panties in a bunch...Its o.k to agree to disagree today im feeling your post tomorrow we may have issues and you might ruffle my feathers but im a grown ass man I can deal with it....If im hurt by some comments made here on TSS then maybe im just to damn sensitive.

ali says:

[QUOTE=brownsugar;6546]I don't know, is Marquez old enough and shot enough to fight Manny?[/QUOTE]

What's up B-SUGE I think more then anything the weight is going to be the biggest problem for Marquez ...Pac has fought as high as a jr middleweight sense there last fight that size may be to much for him to over come.

FighterforJC says:

Seriously, boxing is just a sport, and it's just ONE sport. All you blacks you don't have to loot and riot or slit your wrists just because Pacquiao just happens to be greater and better than every black fighter who ever lived. It's just a sport, and you guys still have basketball and 5 times the size of Pacquiao's winky. Be of good cheer!

the Roast says:

There he is folks...the King of Controversy!!!

#1 PacFan says:

Age is nothing but a number. Besides Manny got to him early in his career. The rematch should have happened earlier but Marquez priced himself out. The rubber I clearly blame arum and team because they knew Marquez is a tough fight. That quote really best fits mayweather lol.[QUOTE=brownsugar;6546]I don't know, is Marquez old enough and shot enough to fight Manny?[/QUOTE]

undisputed34 says:

@ ali thanks..i kinda sorta understood what radam was trying to say...i just didnt think he'd take my disagreeing with him so personal..but i only know how to give my opinion one way and thats the way ive been and will continue to. as far as agreeing to disagree my sentiments exactly..thats what i thought the whole point of being a part of the TTS universe is all about...

which leads me to my next point...

fighterforjc...i dont know who the "all you blacks" are that you are referring to...but i'm surprised that you are even allowed to comment on this site at all..your last statement was so funny i laughed for 15 minutes...now i have to say that its very hard for me to take you serious, but if you are, then i have to say that that was probably the most ignorant thing ive heard anyone say all week...and your posted boxing opinions, or should i say lack thereof, just lost what impartial credibilty, if any, that they even had...

@ Radam...fighterforjc must be one these

ali says:

[QUOTE=FighterforJC;6562]Seriously, boxing is just a sport, and it's just ONE sport. All you blacks you don't have to loot and riot or slit your wrists just because Pacquiao just happens to be greater and better than every black fighter who ever lived. It's just a sport, and you guys still have basketball and 5 times the size of Pacquiao's winky. Be of good cheer![/QUOTE]

Im black and my 2nd favorite fighter is Ninito Donaire behind Mayweather...My brother favorite fighter of all-time is Felix Trindad I have alot of black friends that thinks Pac is going to ko Mayweather if they ever meet so I don't think it has nothing to do with race maybe it does with you though.

Radam G says:

I have to get down with some M words. By the way, no M-named fighter can no longer take down Da Manny. A pseudonym "a" spitter is full of bullspit and da bull dat rhymes with dat. So beaten have been Marquez (coming up for the third time), Morales (twice), Margarito, Mosley [and two M clowns to come], Martinez and Mayweather.

When intolerant people are on the fringe and are marginalized, they may become delusional and start to use fakery and mythology to stabilize themselves. They are mystified with imaginary made-up beliefs and fantasies. They always sell you that hook-and-sink line: "I have a lot of ____ friends, [who think]" so-and-so is going to do this and that. YUP! RIGHT! Da sucka has a lot of bushwhackin,' b.s. tough-guy attackin,' and spittin' boksin' knowledge lackin!'

I own the planet Mars, and da peeps on it are green like muthasuckas. YUP! And it is for sell -- FREE! WOW! This long-life Pac-hater, who is such a grown-a$$ is so amazing at mythomania and the greatest at spittin' mythopoeia. I'm reminded of Oakland's preacher "Vanilla Old Ice." Da cat was totally wrong about his prediction of the world ending Saturday, May 21, 2011, at 5:30 p.m. Cali time. Hehehehehe! WTF! What is he and his ____ going to do now? Many crazy organizations come outta O-Town. The 1960s Black-kitty cats, Jim Jones's People Temple, which met a bad fake in the jungle of South America, and now the latest predictor of doom. I hope dat certain reader keep right predicting doom for Da Manny. Movin' on! Holla!

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