THE DISSECTION: Pacquiao-Bradley 1, A Video Analysis

BY Lee Wylie ON March 31, 2014
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The lingering stench of a baffling decision is the most enduring association for most fans abou the first faceoff between Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley. A shame, it can be argued, because much skillful work was done by both pugilists on June 9, 2012. The judges, two of three who decided Bradley was the better man at the MGM, yeah, not so much...But you knew that.

Check out this video analysis of the tactics and strategies by both men that night, and let's ponder, shall we, how some of those same methods could be deployed on April 12, in Las Vegas, when Pacman and Bradley do it again in Vegas.

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Grimm says:

Good analysis. Really unveils the chess of boxing. Keep em coming!

Skibbz says:

No doubt Tim has great instincts in the ring but it didn't stop him leaving the fight in a wheelchair. Still, it was a nice video.. But it did make the fight sound a lot more balanced than what it was in my opinion.

MARK LENNOX says:

Another good analysis Lee,looking forward to more.

amayseng says:

Fantastic job.

Carmine Cas says:

Excellent job, it puts the first fight in a whole new perspective

JaketheSnake says:

Really loving the new video format! Analysing these split second moves really is hard work and many thanks to Mr. Wylie. Good spot on the rear uppercut. I didn't know this was in Pac-man's arsenal. I remember a lead uppercut that he brought out for David Diaz and he was using it as a double lead attack, i.e. jab-uppercut or right hook-right uppercut. This is the very first time I'm seeing a southpaw left uppercut from him and he seems to be well-versed in setting it up.

The video really shows, to me, the two sides of Pacquiao. The first is the one-dimensional speedster who relies on his fast 1-2 after a drift to the left or the jab feint. As Marquez has aptly demonstrated, you really just have to time the jab feints and/or move to your left in order to get a handle on this Pacquiao attack. When faced with this, he seems to believe that just ramping up the speed and his wide lunges will do the trick. Against plodders with basic footwork this could work wonders as no one can match Pacquiao's athleticism especially in the later rounds. But against guys who're not going for knockouts and just watching out for the cues, Pacquiao's ramping up will just be another opportunity to counter. This is also a huge hole in his game that you will expect Mayweather to exploit if ever that fight comes to fruition.

The second part is the thinking Pac-man. He is a master at exiting at angles and you could see this as a masterclass in the Rios fight. That rear uppercut is really sweet too as he times and places it just right. And of course, if you want to have a high-speed slugfest then Pac-man will more than oblige as he'll back up and maintain that mid-range while throwing bombs.

Which Pacquiao will show up on the 13th? Looking forward 100% more to the fight now that I've watched the analysis!

MisterLee says:

I don't see the link to the video. Can someone let me know waht knid of software I need to watch? Thanks! I'm a fan of Lee Wylie tho. Tss rules

Radam G says:

Go to the front page of this Universe. Holla!

The Shadow says:

I don't see the link to the video. Can someone let me know waht knid of software I need to watch? Thanks! I'm a fan of Lee Wylie tho. Tss rules


Right here, mister! http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MtHloG1A4Rw

jzzy says:

Let's hope Pacman learned something from the Marquez fight, namely to be more patient when attacking a counter puncher. Reckless
aggression will leave you open for counters. Manny also has the bad habit of dropping his hands while pulling out of clinches which he needs
to fix. Bradley will be looking to capitalize on this.

The Shadow says:

[QUOTE=amayseng;47611]Fantastic job.[/QUOTE]

Amayseng, do you think there's more validity to Bradley's claims now? I'm asking you because we've both been critical of him.

When I heard Bradley talk smack after the fight "I controlled him with my jab" I thought to myself, "this dude is trippin'."

I personally was shocked when I saw all those sequences slowed down where Bradley in fact is doing some nice work with the jab.

The Shadow says:

[QUOTE=Carmine Cas;47652]Excellent job, it puts the first fight in a whole new perspective[/QUOTE]

It really does, doesn't it?

amayseng says:

[QUOTE=The Shadow;47742]Amayseng, do you think there's more validity to Bradley's claims now? I'm asking you because we've both been critical of him.

When I heard Bradley talk smack after the fight "I controlled him with my jab" I thought to myself, "this dude is trippin'."

I personally was shocked when I saw all those sequences slowed down where Bradley in fact is doing some nice work with the jab.[/QUOTE]

No, Bradley did some decent things but they were few and far between.

Take for instance in the video it was explained Tim's footwork allowed him to stay clear of a Pac 4 punch combination, however Pac landed the very last punch and Tim did nothing but space himself away.

So Tim eluded a Pac killer 4 punch combo but ate one shot and did nothing. Pac won the exchange and controlled it.

amayseng says:

He did not control Pac with his jab.

Holmes controlled opponents with his jab. So did Ali and the late great Vernon Forrest

MisterLee says:

Thanks Radam and Shadow!

MisterLee says:

Timothy was too muscled up in this fight. He threw a lot of arm punches and didn't sit on his punches (maybe b/c of his ankles) - he didn't have weight behind his punches or leverage. Tim's left movement was half effective, and unlike Marquez he didn't set up his own offense while in motion and bait pacquiao like Marquez did with that left hook hook to the body or lead right hand while moving off the line. Also, Marquez makes tighter circles and stays closer to Pacquiao so he is within punching range and therefore could set up more counters and baits. Much of the time and clock was run down with Bradley running big circles to the left pointlessly without countering, without baiting Pacquiao in, and without initiating his own offense (I'd say he was buying time as he was feeling over powered and outmatched [and was injured] or simply didn't have a strategy besides circling). Also, notice Mosley did this to nullify some of Pacquiao's aggression (part of the reason why he didn't get KO'd).

The Shadow says:

[QUOTE=amayseng;47746]He did not control Pac with his jab.

Holmes controlled opponents with his jab. So did Ali and the late great Vernon Forrest[/QUOTE]

I'm saying he said it, not me. But I was shocked to see sequences, especially a few in the 11th round, where he did some nice work.

Yes, Holmes had a crazy control game.

Radam G says:

Wow! MisterLee has come back shooting thunderbolts. Good read on Bradley's scraping behavior against Da Manny. Bradley was fighting not to win, but to not get KTFO!

If he changes that strategy in the upcoming gitdown [$¡¢], he will sleep as Da Manny did against Hulkquez.

The third eye shows me that the Cali Cranium Crusher Big Foot Bradley is going to get KTFO, reminiscing of Ricky Hatton, thoug. Holla!

amayseng says:

[QUOTE=The Shadow;47770]I'm saying he said it, not me. But I was shocked to see sequences, especially a few in the 11th round, where he did some nice work.

Yes, Holmes had a crazy control game.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I know, I did not mean to imply you, my bad...

Tim has lost it. When he says he controlled Pac he is subconsciously saying he kept pac from being the normal killer who destroys guys. As he did not get knocked out ..

He is just talking himself up for his own confidence. it is exhausting.

I truly liked Tim and rooted for him for years. I like him as a person, stepping into a ready made family and taking on an important role being a father to kids who arent his. I respect him for that.

However, he constant talking, disrespect and nonsense is insulting for two years now.

All he has ever had to say was that he thought it was a close fight and it possibly could have gone either way.

that is it.

But he cant and wont.

now pac is gonna treat him like a pinata

amayseng says:

[QUOTE=MisterLee;47769]Timothy was too muscled up in this fight. He threw a lot of arm punches and didn't sit on his punches (maybe b/c of his ankles) - he didn't have weight behind his punches or leverage. Tim's left movement was half effective, and unlike Marquez he didn't set up his own offense while in motion and bait pacquiao like Marquez did with that left hook hook to the body or lead right hand while moving off the line. Also, Marquez makes tighter circles and stays closer to Pacquiao so he is within punching range and therefore could set up more counters and baits. Much of the time and clock was run down with Bradley running big circles to the left pointlessly without countering, without baiting Pacquiao in, and without initiating his own offense (I'd say he was buying time as he was feeling over powered and outmatched [and was injured] or simply didn't have a strategy besides circling). Also, notice Mosley did this to nullify some of Pacquiao's aggression (part of the reason why he didn't get KO'd).[/QUOTE]

Tim has no power, despite his muscles or physicality. He doesnt punch through the target correctly and genetically he just isnt a hitter.

the Roast says:

Excellent video but that piano was making me a little sleepy.

MisterLee says:

That's because power doesn't come from big muscles. It comes from technique, leverage, some genetics, but also when to squeeze the muscles which isn't emphasized in boxing (Chinese martial arts calls it "fa jing"). I'm not insulting his not being a big hitter, but as a pro they should know muscling up keeps the body from connecting as a whole. That's why old time boxers didn't lift or some didn't even do push ups. Anyway, Yo Radam! I name dropped you on this thread on Bad Left Hook! I think you may have met your match in Brown Bomber! : (Pakin = Fe'roz!) [url]http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/3/18/5522032/juan-manuel-lopez-wants-jorge-arce-and-orlando-salido-boxing-news

Skibbz says:

[QUOTE=MisterLee;47808]That's because power doesn't come from big muscles. It comes from technique, leverage, some genetics, but also when to squeeze the muscles which isn't emphasized in boxing (Chinese martial arts calls it "fa jing"). I'm not insulting his not being a big hitter, but as a pro they should know muscling up keeps the body from connecting as a whole. That's why old time boxers didn't lift or some didn't even do push ups. Anyway, Yo Radam! I name dropped you on this thread on Bad Left Hook! I think you may have met your match in Brown Bomber! : (Pakin = Fe'roz!) [url]http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/3/18/5522032/juan-manuel-lopez-wants-jorge-arce-and-orlando-salido-boxing-news[/QUOTE]

I disagree MLee , I was always taught when to squeeze my muscles, amongst the other things you mentioned. Now it wasn't quite worded in the same way but it harbours the same results.

I was taught to close my fist just before the point of impact, and to drive my punch through my opponent. This allows for a very hard, fast, and accurate punch with enough practise. Throwing a clenched fist from guard to target is slower, and you lose a lot of the power by the time you reach the target.

I agree with Aseng, Bradley's lack of power is a big gap in his arsenal. He has so many attributes like his heart and determination that are arguably second to none, but his power is not enough to deter his opponents. His ferocity can be at times, and his fitness will push most fighters to their limits. But when it comes to the power department, he is lacking.

the Roast says:

Still can't believe Fe'Roz sold us out and went over to BLH. I don't like the format there. I signed up over there after the great change, after it was quiet here, before most everyone showed up again. I never posted one word at BLH but no one else can use my name. There can be only one Roast and you can only get that on TSS. #Loyalty.

brownsugar says:

[QUOTE=the Roast;47827]Still can't believe Fe'Roz sold us out and went over to BLH. I don't like the format there. I signed up over there after the great change, after it was quiet here, before most everyone showed up again. I never posted one word at BLH but no one else can use my name. There can be only one Roast and you can only get that on TSS. #Loyalty.[/QUOTE]

Exactly except no substitutes.

brownsugar says:

Or is that accept?

deepwater2 says:

[QUOTE=brownsugar;47829]Or is that accept?[/QUOTE]

Blame it on the iPhone .happens to me all the time.

brownsugar says:

True ... For a man the size of a 30 year old middleweight version of Arnold Schwarzenegger you would expect more. But personally I would not stand in front of Tim and let him hit me. I wouldn't let a thirteen year old fat kid with no muscle tone at all punch me in the face. (I might take one to the bread basket).

Well its fair to say Bradley has no power ... Its totally incorrect to say Bradley is Power-less.
Roach told Provodnikov in full view of HBO's corner - Cam that he would stop the fight if Ruslan didn't show some better offensive success in the following round..

Also it was more than head butts that forced Campbell and Alexander to slip into survivalist mode during their respective bouts.

And it was more than a breeze than caused JMM to nearly hit the deck in the final seconds of the final round of a fight that Bradley won comfortably.

Do Not - I repeat,... Do not be surprised if Bradley beats Paq to the first game changing punch and leaves Paq sprawling to the canvas if he gets careless.
Bradley isn't a hitter but he does have enough pop to drop his opponent if he's motivated and has his socks on. Lol.....ask Junior Witter.
Seriously ...expect Bradley to show some signs of rehabilitation in the power punching department when they meet. However....I'm not vouching for his chin

Radam G says:

Hehehe! Big Foot Bambi is getting KTFO! He has a lot of slop. And absolute no pop. Junior Witter is a quitter.

The Cali Cranium Crusher knock opponents down with tricks of the trade. And these tricks cause inattention blindness to many. JMM almost hit the deck because of bad balance and the famous knee bumping tactic that fans and others are inattentionally blinded to, because they look at fist action only.

TCCC knocked Lamont Peterson down by knee bumping him and cuff pulling him down behind the noggin. TCCC is a master of cuffing, pulling, ankle tripping and kneeing that get him knockdowns and have gotten him a knockout or two.

Fans, fanfaronades, fanboys, fluzzies and crazy fam -- and a lot times, refs -- appear not to be able to follow fighters' actions below the pugs' navels.

The supersharp fight analyst L-Wy ought to holla at the tricks of the trade below the navel. A whole lot of sneaky -- sometimes shady -- stuff is going on. Holla!

Radam G says:

Owwwwww, OOPS! I musta' fo'got! Bradley also is a great, great arch master of ramming his big-arse cranium straight-up to pugs' mugs.

And another thing, that Bradley gets away with, is clubbing pugs behind da dome and smacking on the back of the neck. Dude is really slick with tricks or the trade.

More power to him. He is slick enough to have it made.

And I'm just calling a spade a spade. Holla!

Radam G says:

Owwwwww, OOPS! I musta' fo'got! Bradley also is a great, great arch master of ramming his big-arse cranium straight-up to pugs' mugs.

And another thing, that Bradley gets away with, is clubbing pugs behind da dome and smacking on the back of the neck. Dude is really slick with tricks or the trade.

More power to him. He is slick enough to have it made.

And I'm just calling a spade a spade. Holla!

admin says:

PROPS. Why'd he jump ship, anyway?? [QUOTE=the Roast;47827]Still can't believe Fe'Roz sold us out and went over to BLH. I don't like the format there. I signed up over there after the great change, after it was quiet here, before most everyone showed up again. I never posted one word at BLH but no one else can use my name. There can be only one Roast and you can only get that on TSS. #Loyalty.[/QUOTE]

the Roast says:

[QUOTE=admin;48125]PROPS. Why'd he jump ship, anyway??[/QUOTE]

I don't even know EM. I am friends with MisterLee on FB and he knows Fe'Roz in real life. I remember Fe'Roz having some complaints after the format change here. Fe'Roz was great in '09, runaway selection for ROTY. He once described Joe Fraizer coming forward like boiling water. He could have been one of the all time greats, but he left us.

dino da vinci says:

[QUOTE=the Roast;48128]I don't even know EM. I am friends with MisterLee on FB and he knows Fe'Roz in real life. I remember Fe'Roz having some complaints after the format change here. Fe'Roz was great in '09, runaway selection for ROTY. He once described Joe Fraizer coming forward like boiling water. He could have been one of the all time greats, but he left us.[/QUOTE]

People should go where they're happy. Speaking of BLH, I was reading something on Bleacher Report, and someone had a great comment on AB. If I can find it I'll mention it here, and we'll give them their credit, etc. Whomever wrote it is a witty guy. Probably Fe'Roz. How funny would that be?

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