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The Bar Has Been Raised For Mikey Garcia

BY Michael Woods ON January 15, 2014
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MikeyGarcia 131029 002a cef26The bar has been raised for Mikey Garcia, with his promoter, Bob Arum, putting Mikey in with Andre Ward, Floyd Mayweather and Tim Bradley on the list of American boxing stars during a recent conference call to hype Garcia's Jan. 25 clash in NYC, and on HBO, against Juan Carlos Burgos.

During the call, Arum said he could foresee the 33-0 (with 28 KOs) Mikey meeting Manny Pacquiao, or perhaps Vasyl Lomachenko, the 1-0 Ukrainianwith a magnificent amateur predigree, if Loma beats Orlando Salido on March 1. Yes, Arum set the bar higher than ever before for Mikey, at a place where he was setting it for Nonito Donaire, a couple years back.

"I believe that he is a Top-10 Pound for Pound fighter right now and soon he will be universally accepted as the best pound-for-pound fighter in boxing," the promoter said. Readers, what say you? Is Garcia of that caliber? Does he have the sort of style, if you think he's of that caliber, to be accepted by the masses as P4P No. 1? Mikey himself said, "I do feel I am at least Top 10."

Garcia finds himself back in NYC after two fights in Texas, a win over JuanMa (TKO4) in June 2013, followed by a KO8 win over Rocky Martinez on November 9. That fight was made that much more interesting when Rocky sent Mikey to the deck in round two. But the Oxnard-based boxer collected himself and re-booted himself, and snagged another W.

On the call, Garcia said that he's inclined to unify at 130 before he moves up, but he's open to being flexible, and could jet to 135, or go to 140 if "the right fight is there." Readers, assuming Mikey beats Burgos, what would you have him doing next? How about Gamboa? At what weight?

Burgos is a vast underdog in the fight, understandable since he's not shown himself to be a guy who pulls away, and wins the big ones. With two straight draws, he needs to win this one, or his rep takes a pretty severe hit. For his part, he says those draws were bogus, and blames the judges. The Mexican-born hitter might want to consider gunning for the KO, what with that draw streak, no? Many thought he beat Rocky Martinez on January 19, 2013 in NYC, and he agreed with judge Marshall Walker, who saw him a 116-112 winner in his last outing, in July, against Yakubu Amidu.

I see Mikey as a prohibitive favorite, believing his power, and superb ring generalship, which includes some of the highest-grade coolness under fire you'll see in the rings today, carry him to a decisive win, by KO or wide UD. Your predictions, fight fans?

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Radam G says:

Mikey is way up there. But if those in charge don't take a hold, he will get the-almost-supergreat-Don-Curry's where to aight! And worse, the Fernado Vargas's stagnation and then permanent vacation to aight!

Man, Mikey is blowing up too often and too fast between fights. Maybe he needs a full-time whole-foods chef.

You cannot fool Mother Nature no matter what you will claim. I'll would hate for Mikey to slide down the path of so many near-greats because of dietary problemas.

DC and FV should've been two of the greatest P4P fighters of all times. Holla!

ultimoshogun says:

Mikey's the real deal, but #1 P4P is a pretty bold prediction. I hope Team Garcia aren't in any rush to step in with Manny quite yet. Pacquiao seemed to be the subject in the recent Fighthype interviews. I'd like to see him fight Gamboa at 135 and maybe another guy, Lomachenko sounds like a good matchup...or maybe Juan Diaz?...then make a couple stops at 140 before fighting Pacman.

brownsugar says:

Mikey's the real deal, but #1 P4P is a pretty bold prediction. I hope Team Garcia aren't in any rush to step in with Manny quite yet. Pacquiao seemed to be the subject in the recent Fighthype interviews. I'd like to see him fight Gamboa at 135 and maybe another guy, Lomachenko sounds like a good matchup...or maybe Juan Diaz?...then make a couple stops at 140 before fighting Pacman.


I could see Garcia boxing Paq's ears off culminating in a shocking KO that would be viewed as sort of a "Final Requiem" for the Former Mexicutioner..
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and if Garcia is allowed time to grow into his man-stength... It would be all over for the 7.5 division P4P Wonder. But I don't think Top Ranks situation is anywhere near that dire to necessitate such a convoluted and desperate matchup.

brownsugar says:

Mikey's the real deal, but #1 P4P is a pretty bold prediction. I hope Team Garcia aren't in any rush to step in with Manny quite yet. Pacquiao seemed to be the subject in the recent Fighthype interviews. I'd like to see him fight Gamboa at 135 and maybe another guy, Lomachenko sounds like a good matchup...or maybe Juan Diaz?...then make a couple stops at 140 before fighting Pacman.


I could see Garcia boxing Paq's ears off culminating in a shocking KO that would be viewed as sort of a "Final Requiem" for the Former Mexicutioner..
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and if Garcia is allowed time to grow into his man-stength... It would be all over for the 7.5 division P4P Wonder. But I don't think Top Ranks situation is anywhere near that dire to necessitate such a convoluted and desperate matchup.

ultimoshogun says:

I wouldn't be surprised if Mikey pulled off a win if they should meet down the road. From what he said in the interview he can already hang with Manny during sparring sessions. I think Gamboa would be a good gauge to see how he may deal with Manny's explosive hand speed/power.

SouthPawFlo says:

Mikey Is definitely Solid, give him a little time to "Naturally" put on weight and I see him beating Manny....

50 Cent had been asking for a Garcia Vs Gamboa fight, and I would love to see that later this year......

Radam G says:

Wow! Some people can believe any hype and syet talk. Hehehehe! Neither Pops Garcia or " the trainer "Grandpa" would let their love one get a mile within Da Manny in da squared jungle. He would be arrested for attempted murder. That deep subliminal Asian-and-Pac hate make ____ _______ ______ come up with the most bizarre _____ ______ and wishing and hoping. Hahaha!

Mikey would have a fairer chance of beating Money May than Da Manny. Mikey would KAYO T Bradley right now, even at Mikey's less of a weight.

Behaviors and deep wishing and thinking in this Universe are just like the sweet science: "The theatre of the unexpected." And a bit triple f√¢•€d up. OMFG!

Mikey beating Da Manny EVER is the wildest w*°•° ______ I've heard or read since haters were saying "Hitman" Tommy Hearns would kayo "Iron" Mike Tyson. YUP! Right! Holla!

Radam G says:

The same "Iron" Mike that kayoed Michael Spinks and Larry Holmes. Holla!

brownsugar says:

RG ... Everything isn't about Asian hate... Garcia is younger... smarter and on the rise... Its the way of nature.. The young eventually raise up and replace the old. In a year or so Manny wouldn't be able to tote Garcia's jock strap... Same with any fighter.

Radam G says:

Not so! B-Hop is still a top pro. And haters have the same subliminal hatred about him. It is all right to call a spade a spade. There is no sense in hiding in the shade.

Mikey will not leap and creep up three weight classes and beat Da Manny the same as the "Cali (Holy Humbug) Ghost" Guerrero was not able to do it with Money May.

Latent hatred is all up in people's minds, hearts and souls.

It has never been about age, but stage. And will always be that way. Holla!

Radam G says:

BTW, back in da day, Iron Mike was younger than Hitman Hearns, but haters were still saying that he'd kayo the Iron One. So it is not always about the young moving up and the old moving down.

It is pure hoping and yearning of haters for certain type of fighters to be not only beat, but humiliated. Iron Mike was hated for being a chocolate-colored Jack Dempsey. Da Manny is hated for being an Asiatic-type of the late, great Bob FitzSimmons mixed with a bit of the late, great "Homicide" Hank Armstrong and GOAT Ali without the "Louisville Lips," and being a BIG threat to beating da holy hebejeebeez outta Money May. Holla!

I know what time it is. Holla!

brownsugar says:

Not so! B-Hop is still a top pro. And haters have the same subliminal hatred about him. It is all right to call a spade a spade. There is no sense in hiding in the shade.

Mikey will not leap and creep up three weight classes and beat Da Manny the same as the "Cali (Holy Humbug) Ghost" Guerrero was not able to do it with Money May.

Latent hatred is all up in people's minds, hearts and souls.

It has never been about age, but stage. And will always be that way. Holla!


Bhop and Manny aren't built the same RG... Neither does Paq have the background... motivation... or drive to be in the fight game that long. The bitter vitriolic Bhop will be fighting from a wheelchair at 89 years of age entertaining the elderly checker players at the nursing home.
Paq man is married with small children and is practically worshipped in his hometown.

Manny's decline is evident and as his physical skills deteriorate there be opportunities for a young lion like Garcia to capitolize.
Manny will be retired in a couple of years mark my words... Celebrating a long and productive career. Now back to my Asian hating lol....

SouthPawFlo says:

I know this is hard to accept RG, but PAC has flaws in the ring (just like every other boxer in the fight game) and he's getting older and his skills are slowly leaving him... As we all know styles make fights and I think Marquez has shown some what of a blueprint on how to compete with Manny, albeit there still aren't a lot of fighters who are talented enough to execute the game plan....

But a technically sound, athletic counter-puncher, who isn't afraid to punch with Manny will give him problems, whether than guy is Mikey Garcia or not we won't know until they fight, but in my opinion Mikey G has the goods to be a top P4P fighter, and like I stayed before I'll like to see him fight Gamboa first to see how he deals with that before we can even think of him stepping in the ring with the PAC MAN....

Radam G says:

Wow! Exacting what I'm talking about -- subliminal xenophobic hatred. Da Manny is not "practically worshipped" in his hometown or in any iota of the archipelago of the P-Islands. He is practically admired, respected and loved for bringing great honor to Pinoys and Asians. He is also greatly HATED by the jealous, lowlives, trifling wannabes and perpetrators of frauds of the P-Islands, the United States and the world.

AmerKanos are the people who "practically" worship their sports' heroes and icons, and now laid that nonsense on Pinoys about Da Manny. Well, NYET! It ain't so.

Everybodee's and dey d@mn momma's "decline is evident," but a such a great jinoistic issue is made of Da Manny by out-of-group haters of mainland USA. Of course Da Manny will retire in a couple of years. No need to mark your words. And so retire will Money May.

@SPF, I don't need your lecture. It is only and fools and losers who believe in flawlessness. Even these various types of GODS are full of FLAWs. I know Mikey G and the whole Garcia clan. My family has been in the game 70 years and 25 world professional champions longer than Mikey G and his clan.

If you were in the loop, you would know that everybodee and dey momma talk syet about challenging a great. And it is just TALK to stay in the public eyes or to try and grab a headline.

You know nothing about me, SPF! Or you would post such stupid syet. Name in one fighter who does not have flaws in the ring! That is WHAT I thought! You CANNOT! Name me ONE of these many GODS of the Christain, Jews and Muslims that don't have FLAWS! That is a WHAT I thought! Everything and everybodee and dey momma are fudged up. Believing in perfection is guideline for making the less mistakes that you can.

OMFG! Money May makes tons of mistakes and has more flaws than tons of fighters -- past and present. But Money May is small and smart enough to not dance with any fighter who will expose him. And that is smart, too smart, FIGHTING!

What you need to learn is the art of fighting, instead of the art of lecturing and pseudofighting. Holla at the greatest warrior -- An Asian -- ever! Holla!

SouthPawFlo says:

I stated my post that all fighters have Flaws, but sometimes it seems like your last name is Pacquaio.....


This post was Supposed to be about the Emergence of the young Mikey G, not about PAC, but again, if anyone says anything about the great Manny you defend him like he's your long lost daddy....




Again, I like Mikey G, I'll be tuning in to watch him next week and I hope he continues to blossom as a fighter regardless of if he fights the Manny or not.......

Radam G says:

Wow! Now you read minds. Hehehehe! My daddy is not long lost. And he and Da Manny don't need me to defend them. I'm a Mikey G's fan myself in da know of how much money talk and bullsyet walk.

I'm aight with fans, fanfaronades, fan boys, haters, faders, busters, posers, vaporers and da likes. To each his own. Do yo' d@mn thang [sic]. With Da Manny, Money May -- who is getting old and faded -- will never bang.

Money May is in South Africa right now talking ethnocentric-and-orgin syet about Da Manny. Money May is exhibiting what weak is -- lying, cheating, stealing and killing. That's not America, The Beautiful way. Holla!

amayseng says:

I am a huge fan of Mikey, have been for a few years. He is def on his way up. However he gets hit too often.

Look at his last fight. Pac is a hitter, pac can crack, he can sit down if he has to (david Diaz) or use his boxing ability and pepper a fighter

like he just recently did rios who is a constant 12 round stalker.


There is a reason why fighters DONT mix it up and throw when Pac throws, behind his speed is stopping

power

amayseng says:

Any fighter can be beat when caught OLD.

as of today Mikey gets the **** peppered out of him.

Radam G says:

And unlike last year, when Mikey got his nose broken by a B+ fighter/title belt holder, Da Manny will break his eye orbitals, his jaw, a few of his ribs and loosen-up and knockout some of his teeth.

Mikey better catch a slow Da Manny at about age 40, because (now-to-39-year-old) Da Manny will not be light punching, as he was doing sparring sessions almost a decade ago with a teenage Mikey G. Holla!

brownbomber says:

HahAha

brownsugar says:

Wow! Exacting what I'm talking about -- subliminal xenophobic hatred. Da Manny is not "practically worshipped" in his hometown or in any iota of the archipelago of the P-Islands. He is practically admired, respected and loved for bringing great honor to Pinoys and Asians. He is also greatly HATED by the jealous, lowlives, trifling wannabes and perpetrators of frauds of the P-Islands, the United States and the world.

AmerKanos are the people who "practically" worship their sports' heroes and icons, and now laid that nonsense on Pinoys about Da Manny. Well, NYET! It ain't so.

Everybodee's and dey d@mn momma's "decline is evident," but a such a great jinoistic issue is made of Da Manny by out-of-group haters of mainland USA. Of course Da Manny will retire in a couple of years. No need to mark your words. And so retire will Money May.

@SPF, I don't need your lecture. It is only fools and losers who believe in flawlessness. Even these various types of GODS are full of FLAWs. I know Mikey G and the whole Garcia clan. My family has been in the game 70 years and 25 world professional champions longer than Mikey G and his clan.

If you were in the loop, you would know that everybodee and dey momma talk syet about challenging a great. And it is just TALK to stay in the public eyes or to try and grab a headline.

You know nothing about me, SPF! Or you wouldn't post such stupid syet. Name one fighter who does not have flaws in the ring! That is WHAT I thought! You CANNOT! Name me ONE of these many GODS of the Christain, Jews and Muslims that don't have FLAWS! That is a WHAT I thought! Everything and everybodee and dey momma are fudged up. Believing in perfection is a guideline for making the less mistakes that you can.

OMFG! Money May makes tons of mistakes and has more flaws than tons of fighters -- past and present. But Money May is small and smart enough to not dance with any fighter who will expose him. And that is smart, too smart, FIGHTING!

What you need to learn is the art of fighting, instead of the art of lecturing and pseudofighting. Holla at the greatest warrior -- An Asian -- ever! Holla!


He is worshipped RG......
..... at home in the PI and in the U.S. . All you have to do is listen to all the death threats and crazy rants when he gets beat or if someone dares to speak a negative word about him RG ,... You are a prime example...the biggest Paq worshipper ever on the net... And that's fine.

The more you propagandize the more evident it becomes. But everyone makes a god of something ..money...sex... status... and sometimes other people, even when they arent aware of it.
Just be careful RG... We dont want all the asian haters to get you while your out shopping for groceries...or when you finish parking your car.

With such a short list of available marketable welters in the TR stable ... Arum could easily have another epiphany like he did when he arranged the infamous catchweight bout between Paq and Del LA Hoya...... Arum jump Garcia up 3 weight classes to knock off his former top bread winner while he's in decline on the way to creating a knew attraction... A new Superstar named Mikey G.
Stranger things have already happened.

Radam G says:

He is not worshipped. That is stereotyping nonsense of an out-of-group person who apparently is trying to judge the love, compassion and closeness of Asians, in particularly Filipinos, because so many is his group are self haters.

Admitted man, you are full of American _____ _____ imperialism, jingoism and think that you can read Asian people's minds. And somehow we're subhumans that need to one of our kind to worship. Nyet!

We rise to the top of everything that we do. And don't care about haters claiming human worshipping because one of their own is a BIG coward trying to convince himself and them that he is superior and don't need to fight that type of inferior human being.

That is all right B-Sug, you don't fool me for a minute. You are a victim of your environment and surrounding. And believe that you have some type of godly power to judge an out-of-group person as a human worshipper because life has limited you that way. What a shame. But you never surprise me. And I would expect nothing less from you. Holla!

Radam G says:

Hehehe! Who has been threaten with death by a single Filipino when Da Manny has been beaten, B-Sug? Now you are talking outta your arse and making up silly syet. Hahaha! And somehow you have amnesia problems about "infamous catchweights."

You ought to let that syet along because Money May did it against Marquez and cheated and came in overweight. Now that is an "infamous catchweight." Money May's last bout against Canelo was an "infamous catchweight" after he said that he doesn't do catchweights.

Wow! Some people make themselves look pathetic nut-hugging Money May. But he get BIG PAY for his lies. They have to work overtime for a drop-in-the bucket of slave wages.

I hate to burst your bubble, but African-American greats are the kings of catchweight fighting. I can name a whole lot of them. But you can do it. You are the one who reaching into xenophobic craziness and hateful wildness.

Money May is in deep aging and decline his d@mn self. That is why he is obsessed with lying about the real reason that he won't fight Da Manny. Hehehe! Because of "Bob Arum" my @$$. Then why is Money May in South Africa clowning to blacks about _____ _____ _____? Hahaha! Money May does not want his race superiority bubble POP! You don't want that either, B-Sug! You really have bad memories of the P-Islands.

Let it GO! Let it GO! It's just ur-nother LUV T-K-O!

Before Mikey G was moving up and beating Da Manny, Broner was the Chosen One. Who will it be by this summer? Holla!

The Shadow says:

RG ... Everything isn't about Asian hate... Garcia is younger... smarter and on the rise... Its the way of nature.. The young eventually raise up and replace the old. In a year or so Manny wouldn't be able to tote Garcia's jock strap... Same with any fighter.


I agree.

In addition to having researched racism in a prolonged academic setting, I am willing to bet that I have experienced as much real racism in my life as anyone in this forum.

That said, I don't know of anyone who hates Asians. I don't find anything conceivably dislikable about Asians at all nor have I ever seen or heard of anything like that.

As for whether Miguel Garcia can beat Pacquiao, no clue. Haven't really peeped his game. But from what I hear about his style, it does appear that his style is the type that troubles Pacquiao.

Like Freddie Roach says, a pure boxer gives the Pac Man fits. It's really that simple.

Morales boxed him nice, JMM in my estimation won 26 out of the first 36 rounds, Guzman would've troubled him, I think Mayweather paralyzes him, quite frankly, and I actually would give Bradley a decent shot in a rematch.

Now aside from that matchup, which I think is a matter of poor stylistic compatibility over comparable ability, Pacquiao ICES any guy that stands in front of him with no special effects.

Pacquiao ends Guerrero, batters Maidana, outworks Ortiz, overwhelms Canelo, befuddles Porter, bruises Matthyse and outpoints D. Garcia.

But if M. Bison, er, Garcia, has the boxing skills they say he does, then I see a fight.

Believe it or not, I don't think Manny is well off with guys moving up who now has to cut less weight without being at a size disadvantage. Fighting all these lighter weight guys is giving up his advantages.

He needs to fight these 165 guys that starve themselves to welterweight where he has a significant speed as well as power advantage -- extremely rare for the smaller man which Manny is in most, if not all, of his fights.

That's really what makes this cat great; a unique cocktail of advantages: speed, power and not having to cut weight. Never underestimate that.

brownsugar says:

Hehehe! Who has been threaten with death by a single Neither o when Da Manny has been beaten, B-Sug? Now you are talking outta your arse and making up silly syet. Hahaha! And somehow you have amnesia problems about "infamous catchweights."

You ought to let that syet along because Money May did it against Marquez and cheated and came in overweight. Now that is an "infamous catchweight." Money May's last bout against Canelo was an "infamous catchweight" after he said that he doesn't do catchweights.

Wow! Some people make themselves look pathetic nut-hugging Money May. But he get BIG PAY for his lies. They have to work overtime for a drop-in-the bucket of slave wages.

I hate to burst your bubble, but African-American greats are the kings of catchweight fighting. I can name a whole lot of them. But you can do it. You are the one who reaching into xenophobic craziness and hateful wildness.

Money May is in deep aging and decline his d@mn self. That is why he is obsessed with lying about the real reason that he won't fight Da Manny. Hehehe! Because of "Bob Arum" my @$$. Then why is Money May in South Africa clowning to blacks about _____ _____ _____? Hahaha! Money May does not want his race superiority bubble POP! You don't want that either, B-Sug! You really have bad memories of the P-Islands.

Let it GO! Let it GO! It's just ur-nother LUV T-K-O!

Before Mikey G was moving up and beating Da Manny, Broner was the Chosen One. Who will it be by this summer? Holla![/QUOTE

Sorry RG, I don't feel guilty and I can't be bullied by your toxic conversation... Just calling a spade a spade...holla.

I simply can't relate to your PAC worship RG.... or your black vs pinoy debate, you can own that one all to yourself.
Your starting to enter Bernie Campbell territory with your black vs pinoy off topic remarks.
And your simply proving my point. How can anybody with any sense of personal dignity write that kind of racist stuff in a puplic forum...the hate is all yours brother. And I can't follow you there... Manny would pray for you.

Whatever your racial inadequacies are they won't be healed on this forum.. You have my sympathy.
If you want to find examples of blind pinoy fanaticism go no further than the TSS archives...or the Google to find death threats against Tim Bradley.

No worries RG... boxing is simply a business... Arum will find a way to cash Paq out just like he does with other fighters in decline... Garcia vs Paq could be the new Paq vs DLH.

Radam G says:

No sense in trying to reverse anything, B-Sug. Your history in the P-Islands clearly causes you to try to be a sneaky bully. It is all right. Too bad that you cannot let it go. Vent on, brotha! Hehehe!

Neither Mikey or Money May or Marquez on dat syet is fighting Da Manny. And the P-Islands government will charge you with no more crimes. Hate on, BRO! Every Filipino to you is a PacMan HO! And what happened to you, you can't let it GO! It was just a "luv-ya'-long-time" ____ _____ ____ T-K-O! Hehehe! Don't cheat, or on will come the heat.

No way that I will get into a p¡$$ing contest with you. You often come off with a bit of craziness. It is just your way of being inflammatory because of apparent stress. I understand it. Oftentimes that will make you a mess.

In the great lyrics of musicman Smokey Robinson: "Tears of a clown." Then all at once, you cool down. And in the end, I'm always right. Then you move on to someone else to fight. Hahahaha! Life is a bytch! You have an itch. Then you die, and they throw you in a ditch. Outta dat you cannot pitch.

Now your religious _____ ______ jack-legged sermon is a coming. PREACH! Comic relief is greatly appreciated. Hahahaha! Holla!

Radam G says:

BTW, "blacks versus Pinoys" is your nonsense labeling just as the nonsense of Filipinos -- especially this one worshipping Da Manny. Now you have really gone deceptive and manic. And think you can weasel away with racist deception.

Anybody with a brain knows the plight of Pinoys in our own land and on the mainland USA. "Filipinos and dogs stay off the grass." "No Filipinos allowed." Google photos and stories of it. I know that The Shadow is going to find it.

Wow! You have really stepped out of bound with hatred and posing, because you are not an idiot of the Civil Rights struggles. I expect dumbsyet of the seventh-grade dropout Money May, but not you. But then again, you have bone to grind.

Anyway, you should move to "Random Topics" with your "blacks vs pinoys" posing. And don't pretend like you don't know who and what the first U.S. black Supreme Court judge's wife is.

We Pinoys marched with Rev. Martin Luther King Jr and Caesar Chavez. We have always been at the top of doing it all, and not posing, worshipping make believe. Holla!

Radam G says:

And then using the race card to stop an arse kicking. You define anything that you cannot chump down and control as racism. I don't use racism and don't need to. I have an untainted-with-racism-and-drugs brain. And my extended family is mixed with about 40 different ethnics, including the darkest of black right outta America and Africa. Holla!

brownsugar says:

And then using the race card to stop an arse kicking. You define anything that you cannot chump down and control as racism. I don't use racism and don't need to. I have an untainted-with-racism-and-drugs brain. And my extended family is mixed with about 40 different ethnics, including the darkest of black right outta America and Africa. Holla!


******again your embarrassing yourself gringo, throwing the race card and playing the victim has always been your forte. I'm really not concerned with any of your grief... Save your energy for boxing...

Radam G says:

Wow! B-Sug, you are beginning to sound like a juvenile brat on crack again who lost a game at the park. Then everybodee and dey momma are picking on him, he starts to bark. The only person suffering from grief here is you. But I understand your self denial and grandstanding. You and Money May are on decline and don't want to be pushed to the back of the line. Hehehe! Maybe that is the reason that Money May is now trying to win sub saharan Africa to his madness about ducking and not dancing with Da Manny.

"Fight Manny, BYYYYTCH," the Africans are stepping to Lil' Floyd. Hehehe! I guess that you are going to call those black Africans racist TOO! Hehehe! There is nothing racist from me or anybody who is telling Money May to STFU and be 'BOUT, 'BOUT! Not DOUBT-I-DOUBT IT!

The famed former lady boxing manager of James "Lights out" Toney -- Jackie Kallen -- must be racist too, because she put trifling Tim Bradley's arse on straight-up, hardcore BLAST for acting like he can elitely fight and should be paid HUGE! But we insiders in da game know the real deal. Big Foot is prizing himself out of fighting Da Manny, because Da Manny will KAYO his arse in another try.

A MAD-because-he-got-ripped-da-double-fudge-off PacMan is more dangerous than those fantasy gods who haters "worship" and are always peddling dogma to everybodee and dey momma about them destroying the whole world because Judgement Day is a coming. YUP, RIGHT! That bytch has been coming for centuries.

Maybe the Cranium Crusher is your long-lost kinfolk because you and he have the most bizarre imagination, make believe and deep self denial and mucho problems with accepting the darn TRUTH on the planet E. "YOU CAN HANDLE DA TRUTH!"

And feel anyway that you like, because you cannot handle your own "GUILT" of JACK! And outta of responsibility for your off-the-wall remarks, you always try to MACK! It's always been that somebody is picking on you for a racist or professional reason. Or they are embarrassing themselves for holding a mirror in front of your mug. C'mon, MAN! You ain't a darn vampire. And for slinging fantasies and mud, YOU nobody will hire. Hehehehe!

You and Money May are on "the decline" and both of you have a bad gallbladder. C'mon, migo, you haters don't have the cojones to try to climb even Tom Thumb's mini ladder. Hahaha! Go ON, wif yo' bad self! You got me rolling. That would be laughing rolling, not shoulder rolling, which will get Money May KTFO by Da Manny and five more fighters that Lil' Floyd and his superwise about-not-taking-an-@$$-whuppin' pops are ducking.

Wow! WTHF!!! Coming from you is a lot of $hit chatter. In your alternate reality world of me worshipping Da Manny doesn't even matter. Because Money May's declining old glass arse, Da Manny would easily shatter. Have a good day, BRO! I'm tired of your syet. It is time to hit da pit for a bit. Happy Friday, USA! Holla!

brownsugar says:

Wow! B-Sug, you are beginning to sound like a juvenile brat on crack again who lost a game at the park. Then everybodee and dey momma are picking on him, he starts to bark. The only person suffering from grief here is you. But I understand your self denial and grandstanding. You and Money May are on decline and don't want to be pushed to the back of the line. Hehehe! Maybe that is the reason that Money May is now trying to win sub saharan Africa to his madness about ducking and not dancing with Da Manny.

"Fight Manny, BYYYYTCH," the Africans are stepping to Lil' Floyd. Hehehe! I guess that you are going to call those black Africans racist TOO! Hehehe! There is nothing racist from me or anybody who is telling Money May to STFU and be 'BOUT, 'BOUT! Not DOUBT-I-DOUBT IT!

The famed former lady boxing manager of James "Lights out" Toney -- Jackie Kallen -- must be racist too, because she put trifling Tim Bradley's arse on straight-up, hardcore BLAST for acting like he can elitely fight and should be paid HUGE! But we insiders in da game know the real deal. Big Foot is prizing himself out of fighting Da Manny, because Da Manny will KAYO his arse in another try.

A MAD-because-he-got-ripped-da-double-fudge-off PacMan is more dangerous than those fantasy gods who haters "worship" and are always peddling dogma to everybodee and dey momma about them destroying the whole world because Judgement Day is a coming. YUP, RIGHT! That bytch has been coming for centuries.

Maybe the Cranium Crusher is your long-lost kinfolk because you and he have the most bizarre imagination, make believe and deep self denial and mucho problems with accepting the darn TRUTH on the planet E. "YOU CAN HANDLE DA TRUTH!"

And feel anyway that you like, because you cannot handle your own "GUILT" of JACK! And outta of responsibility for your off-the-wall remarks, you always try to MACK! It's always been that somebody is picking on you for a racist or professional reason. Or they are embarrassing themselves for holding a mirror in front of your mug. C'mon, MAN! You ain't a darn vampire. And for slinging fantasies and mud, YOU nobody will hire. Hehehehe!

You and Money May are on "the decline" and both of you have a bad gallbladder. C'mon, migo, you haters don't have the cojones to try to climb even Tom Thumb's mini ladder. Hahaha! Go ON, wif yo' bad self! You got me rolling. That would be laughing rolling, not shoulder rolling, which will get Money May KTFO by Da Manny and five more fighters that Lil' Floyd and his superwise about-not-taking-an-@$$-whuppin' pops are ducking.

Wow! WTHF!!! Coming from you is a lot of $hit chatter. In your alternate reality world of me worshipping Da Manny doesn't even matter. Because Money May's declining old glass arse, Da Manny would easily shatter. Have a good day, BRO! I'm tired of your syet. It is time to hit da pit for a bit. Happy Friday, USA! Holla!


Whatever you say Americano ..... Go fly a kite and drink some coco it'll make ya feel better

Radam G says:

Tic for a tack, you try to hit me, but I crack back. Wackoism is under attack. Good giving it up and getting back on track.

Coco will help your system clean out that soiled, toxic beef on that burger you chowed down the other day. That stuff made you temporally insane in da membrane. Good sparring match, though. Hehehe! Holla!

Radam G says:

Tic for a tack, you try to hit me, but I crack back. Wackoism is under attack. Good giving it up and getting back on track.

Coco will help your system clean out that soiled, toxic beef on that burger you chowed down the other day. That stuff made you temporally insane in da membrane. Good sparring match, though. Hehehe! Holla!

brownsugar says:

Don't try to son me RG ....I've been on the job making time and a half moola while you where crapping bricks.

Radam G says:

Now I know that you are wacko. Too much slave-wages work. Chillax, DUDE! Things will get better. Too much work, and not enough play is an early grave. You cannot escape from being that type of slave. You need a vacation to rid of that aggavation. Hehehe! Let it GO! Let it GO! You are HOT and HEAVY with a LUV-overtime WORK T-K-O! Holla!

Radam G says:

I salute you. I could never be a slave-wages-working stiff. It would drive me straight over the cliff. Holla!

brownsugar says:

I salute you. I could never be a slave-wages-working stiff. It would drive me straight over the cliff. Holla!


I love my job.... Proud to be a working man and will work till the day I die. but there's nothing here left to discuss. Catch you on the next one... Back to money earning wage stacking slavery as you call it.

brownsugar says:

And if you'd want to know the truth ... I couldn't be you either... So we're even on that tip.

the Roast says:

Woooooo! We got a clash of the Titans going on! The two highest posters in the TSS history going toe to toe and tit for tat! It got a little sloppy at the end but we'll go to the score cards. Judge Roast scores it 117-113 for Brownsugar. Radam is too know it all and too blind Pac loving to be objective. RG always picks Da Manny to win by violent KO and it never happens. Anyone who picks against Da Manny is always called a hater. I need two more judges to step forth to complete the verdict.

ultimoshogun says:

Haha, I was wondering when you were gonna show up and ref this thing, Roast...I concur.

The Shadow says:

Woooooo! We got a clash of the Titans going on! The two highest posters in the TSS history going toe to toe and tit for tat! It got a little sloppy at the end but we'll go to the score cards. Judge Roast scores it 117-113 for Brownsugar. Radam is too know it all and too blind Pac loving to be objective. RG always picks Da Manny to win by violent KO and it never happens. Anyone who picks against Da Manny is always called a hater. I need two more judges to step forth to complete the verdict.


I totally agree across the board. Excellently put.

You know, I keep thinking, "When was the last time Pacquiao won by KO?"

RG, you're a prolific poster, you know I love and respect you and I'm honored to be your cyber buddy, but this isn't a good reflection of who you are.

Especially that slick slave remark was ugly, below the belt and unnecessary on multiple levels. I applaud Suge for not stooping low to respond to that because I know Suge knows exactly what was meant.

Radam G says:

"Slave" is simply slanguage for a job. It doesn't mean jack. You guys are getting a bit sensitive over nothing. Slave is not any worse than being "a breast." B-Sug always gets grumpy when he does a lot of overtime and comes after me. And The Roast always give B-Sug a lift-and-gift decision.

Welcome to that, The Shadow because you a lot more of that every time B-Sug is stressed from ocer

The Shadow says:

"Slave" is simply slanguage for a job. It doesn't mean jack. You guys are getting a bit sensitive over nothing. Slave is not any worse than being "a breast." B-Sug always gets grumpy when he does a lot of overtime and comes after me. And The Roast always give B-Sug a lift-and-gift decision.

Welcome to that, The Shadow because you a lot more of that every time B-Sug is stressed from ocer


I hear you RG. But no matter what you meant, in the context of what was said with the racial undertones and so forth, I'm sure you know how it could come across.

I also know that you utilize subtle wordplay expertly and your use of slave could've been (probabaly was) a double entendre.

At worst, it was horribly offensive and at best it was insensitive -- especially in light of you, judged on your posts, being a man of considerable wealth who travels the world when others don't have that luxury.

You're a sharp enough cat to know that. And you're too sharp to just say stuff without knowing how it can be taken.

That's the point I was trying to make, anyway. I'm pretty sure you get where I'm coming from.

I saw Suge have a fight with Storm where I thought Suge was out of line with some of his remarks, especially considering who Storm is. All things considered, I didn't think the the uppercut to the nuts was necessary.

And I haven't detected any sort of racist, xenophobic, ethnocentric, or jingoistic vibe from him at all.

I like you both so you know I'm impartial, objective and sensible. Just keeping it real.

Basically, you guys disagree on a mythical matchup, as do many of us. Nothing wrong with that. Don't have to fight over that, though.

Radam G says:

"Slave" is simply slanguage for a job. It doesn't mean jack. You guys are getting a bit hypersensitive over nothing. Slave is not any worse than being "a beast." B-Sug always gets grumpy when he does a lot of overtime and comes after me. And The Roast always give B-Sug a lift-and-gift decision. Those Yanks are tight with one another and a bit blind. Hehehe!

Welcome to that, The Shadow, because you will a lot more of that everyt time B-Sug is stressed from over slaving -- or to make you happy, overtime working.

Holla at the archives of B-Sug and me, and you will see B-Sug posting how much overtime work that he is doing, then he will start getting in my grill about every comment that I make.

TSS Reader SCLA Ali was the same every time his girl and he were at war. Also MisterLee would come after me every time after he'd compete in a MMA/UFC match.

I just be jiving and conniving and kicking their stressful arses all in true-reality fun. And The Roast always C.J. Ross me. Hehehe! Holla!

The Shadow says:

Yeah, I may not know the backstory and maybe it was all pure fun. But I'm just saying how it could come across. I wouldn't take offense to it necessarily, and maybe Suge won't either.

However, in the context of the conversation of ethnocentrism, I just don't like how it made you look because it's not a proper representation of who you are. That's all I meant.

I'm gonna have to check the archives for myself! LOL. Maybe I'll sharpen up.

If Suge getting grumpy when overtime working is indeed the case, you need to invite Suge to Vegas in April so he can hide in plain sight with you at the MGM.

Radam G says:

BTW, The Shadow, in my circles of friends and family, we always us terms such as: "You slave to a billion dollars [euros, riyals pesos, yen, etc.]." "You slave to a thousand-and-one dolls, damsels and dames." "You jet-set slave." And the one that is most said to me: "You slave to your wife kicking your arse for whoring."

I have an addiction for the working girls. Hehehe! I guess we humans all have some type of flaws. Off the hos, I cannot keep my paws. I think that I'm moving in all the late, great basketballer Wilt Chamberlin's record. Haha! Holla!

Radam G says:

I've been thinking about inviting a lot of TSS cats to Sin City to see if they can locate me hiding in plain sight. A ho cannot try to give me a signal for company, because then I busted.

One of the ladies in my Fam would start punching at me. Then everybody will know: "Radam is the Pinoy over there gettin' his arse whupped for trying to get a hookup with dat fine@$$ hooker." Haha! Holla!

Radam G says:

I've been thinking about inviting a lot of TSS cats to Sin City to see if they can locate me hiding in plain sight. A ho cannot try to give me a signal for company, because then I busted.

One of the ladies in my Fam would start punching at me. Then everybody will know: "Radam is the Pinoy over there gettin' his arse whupped for trying to get a hookup with dat fine@$$ hooker." Haha! Holla!

The Shadow says:


I have an addiction for the working girls. Hehehe! I guess we humans all have some type of flaws. Off the hos, I cannot keep my paws. I think that I'm moving in all the late, great basketballer Wilt Chamberlin's record. Haha! Holla!


LOL!! GTFOH! If that's the case, then you and I need to hang, my friend! Like Charlie Sheen, I live by a simple principle: #WINNING!

And like I always say, sinning is winning. By the end of 2014, Rihanna will cook me a home cooked meal in night gown.

We shall link up in Sin City soon and exchange war stories hahaha!

The Shadow says:

By the way, did you see what I posted about Pep and who really managed to won a round without throwing a punch?

Radam G says:

@The Roast, next Da Manny bout will end in Da Manny violently kayoing his opponent. No more of the weak-god jive.

Da Manny is back to the Strong, Angry, Violent, Punishing God. The One in the Bible Who Always Whupped ur @$$, and Then Forgave it. God Was Just Doing His Job.

Thus, Da Manny is going to get back to doing his job -- knockin' muthapucka' [sic] out, so the robbery and lotto kayo of him in Sin City will be no more. Holla!

Radam G says:

@The Roast, next Da Manny bout will end in Da Manny violently kayoing his opponent. No more of the weak-god jive.

Da Manny is back to the Strong, Angry, Violent, Punishing God. The One in the Bible Who Always Whupped ur @$$, and Then Forgave it. God Was Just Doing His Job.

Thus, Da Manny is going to get back to doing his job -- knockin' muthapucka' [sic] out, so the robbery and lotto kayo of him in Sin City will be no more. Holla!

Radam G says:

No! I don't recall the Willie Pep piece. Where is it? Holla!

Radam G says:

I found it. Holla!

brownsugar says:

Yeah, I may not knocorrectness tory and maybe it was all pure fun. But I'm just saying how it could come across. I wouldn't take offense to it necessarily, and maybe Suge won't either.

However, in the context of the conversation of ethnocentrism, I just don't like how it made you look because it's not a proper representation of who you are. That's all I meant.

I'm gonna have it check the archives for myself! LOL. Maybe I'll sharpen up.

If Suge getting grumpy when overtime working is indeed the case, you need to invite Suge to Vegas in April so he can hide in plain sight with you at the MGM.


Thanks your concern Shadow.. But political correctness is never a concern when xrated video producers dream up titles for porn movies.. And its not a concern whenever there's a difference of opinion between me and RG. (although your comments were appropriate). I may take a swipe at him occasionally because ......paraphrasing from the latest batman movie( about RG)

"He's the poster the TSS deserves, but not the one it needs, so I'll hunt him... because he can take it"

BTW your "article" on Pep was a masterfully done slice of boxing history. I really enjoyed it.

brownsugar says:

Yeah, I may not knocorrectness tory and maybe it was all pure fun. But I'm just saying how it could come across. I wouldn't take offense to it necessarily, and maybe Suge won't either.

However, in the context of the conversation of ethnocentrism, I just don't like how it made you look because it's not a proper representation of who you are. That's all I meant.

I'm gonna have it check the archives for myself! LOL. Maybe I'll sharpen up.

If Suge getting grumpy when overtime working is indeed the case, you need to invite Suge to Vegas in April so he can hide in plain sight with you at the MGM.


Thanks your concern Shadow.. But political correctness is never a concern when xrated video producers dream up titles for porn movies.. And its not a concern whenever there's a difference of opinion between me and RG. (although your comments were appropriate). I may take a swipe at him occasionally because ......paraphrasing from the latest batman movie( about RG)

"He's the poster the TSS deserves, but not the one it needs, so I'll hunt him... because he can take it"

BTW your "article" on Pep was a masterfully done slice of boxing history. I really enjoyed it.

the Roast says:

@The Roast, next Da Manny bout will end in Da Manny violently kayoing his opponent. No more of the weak-god jive.

Da Manny is back to the Strong, Angry, Violent, Punishing God. The One in the Bible Who Always Whupped ur @$$, and Then Forgave it. God Was Just Doing His Job.

Thus, Da Manny is going to get back to doing his job -- knockin' muthapucka' [sic] out, so the robbery and lotto kayo of him in Sin City will be no more. Holla!


Isn't that what you said before the Rios bout? Hmmmmm????

Radam G says:

@the Roast, YUP! Something to that effect.

And after the bout, Rios also admitted that he held back a bit and went into survivor mode, or Da Manny "properly could've knocked me out," he said.

"And I didn't wanna get knockout. I couldn't catch that fast fu°°ker. D@mn! I underestimated his speed."

Go to YouTube and holla at Rios's interview. Holla!

Radam G says:

FYI, the Roast. Da Manny is the Bluecoatbuster. No Yank has ever defeated him, unless you are a hater enough to image that Tim Bradley beat him. That bytch got the most one-sided gift decision in the history of modern day prizefighting.

Da Manny has mowed down every Bluecoat that he has fought -- your Windy-City homeboy, David Diaz, California born Antonio Margarito, Oscar De la Hoya, Big-Foot Bradley and lastly Texas-born Brandon "Bam Bam" Rios.

WTF! Da Manny being the Bluecoatbuster explains why Lil' Floyd doesn't want any. Hehehe!

Da Manny would violently whup Money May's super-paper-money rich arse EARLY!

Money May is so frighten of Da Manny that Money May doesn't even realize that $140mil of American money paper notes sitting is a Yank bank are losing value by the sec. Holla!

Radam G says:

Wow! And Da Manny also gunned down Cali born "Sugar" Shane Mosley. Money May shakes and cold sweat nightly just thinking being in that squared jungle getting ready to get beautifully, violently beat down by the Bluecoatbuster. Holla!

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