24/7 Recap: Roach Boots Ariza From Manny's Corner |
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Sunday, 03 June 2012 13:13
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It looks like both the Pacquiao and Bradley training camps are humming along well, from the third installment of HBO's 24/7 series, but one wonders if the pockets of discord, like the Freddie Roach-Alex Ariza feud, will take away from Manny Pacquiao's focus heading in to his June 9 Las Vegas showdown with the unbeaten Tim Bradley. To open, we see Marvin Samodio walk into the Wild Card. He stepped in for Alex Ariza when Ariza left the Philippines camp early last month, and Roach asked him to come to the US to work again with Manny. The strength and conditioning coach says he and Ariza are good friends, and that he is still learning that craft. Pacquiao has decided not to dump Ariza, as Roach recommended. Freddie says that his comments on the last 24/7, when he said he would maybe recommend to Manny that they dump Ariza, who he said had gotten too big for his britches, were heavy-duty. Ariza is free to process them with him the trainer said, but the spat won't distract Pacman, he maintains. "Manny likes him and wants him on board so that's the way it is and that's the way we're going to leave it for now," Roach says. He has banished Ariza from the corner on fight night, though. Ariza refuses to speak to 24/7 about the issue. We see Jinkee Pacquiao has come to LA with the kids. The little ones feed him cake and Jinkee says that Manny is "the best." She calls him her "king." Meanwhile, Tim Bradley is tired of training. He wants fight night to arrive. He works out with S and G coach James Rougely in 100 degree heat. This is the third fight with the coach. Bradley then heads out for eats with his wife Monica. He is a vegan during training, he says. He has a smoothie named after him at a local shop. He says he recovers faster than most athletes. He doesn't need much sleep, and says he lays awake thinking about the fight. This guy has that eye of the tiger, huh? Is it possible that he is fully focused on the goal, and Pacman will be distracted by his marriage re-building, and religious conversion-immersion and the Roach-Ariza spat? If he loses, we will indeed ponder that question... Pacman is seen running. He says he is in top shape and mentally, because of his newfound religious commitment. Roach in the gym tells Manny to spin out when Bradley comes in head first. "He's going to be very slow," because of his muscles, the trainer says. Hatton, Cotto and Mosley were muscled as well, it is pointed out. Then, Manny heads to the Jimmy Kimmel show. Kimmel notes Manny has a Kimmel win streak and worries what might happen if the show is cancelled. Kimmel says that Manny is a character and always has something new going on. He talks about his religious conversion, and draws a laugh when he shows a picture of Manny shooting a gun. We see Joel Diaz, Bradley's trainer, at his ranch. We hear about his pro career. He says that he was hurt during a sparring session before his big title shot. He lost to Phillip Holiday, and then fought one more time. He lost vision in his right eye, didn't tell anyone, but was forced to quit when he fessed up to his wife. He drifted, hung out with a bad element, worked as a muscleman. He was close to killing or being killed. He regrouped after his mom pleaded with him to go back to the gym, to help his younger brothers. He met Bradley eight years ago. They've been together ever since. Then, we see Roach practice throwing out the first pitch at a Dodgers game. He says he'll be a bit nervous. He opened up the gym 17 years ago, and this will be the 26th bout working the corner of Pacman. He is grateful for the pairing. "Manny makes it all possible. Money obviously makes your life a little bit easier. Most of the money I've made comes from Manny Pacquiao," he says. This allows him to keep gym dues low, $5 a day. He says that he is not religious, that he just tries to be a good person. "Heaven and hell, I don't believe in it," says the 52 year old trainer. He notes that his tremors are getting a bit worse. He says when he can't do the mitts effectively, he will quit. His mom he says will tell him the truth. She told him just last week that he was getting fat. He says he's lucky he has his gym and would be a bit lost without it. Freddie throws out the first pitch. It is a low strike. Back in Indio, Tim Bradley Sr aka Big Ray, goes to a local high school, where he is the head disciplinarian. He patrols on a mountain bike. He then heads to the gym. The son says he trains like "no other. The fight is won in the gym." Timothy says his dad has always been there for his fights. His dad, he says, cried when he heard the kid got the Pacquiao fight. "Tears of joy," Big Ray said. To sum up, we hear from Liev Schreiber that fighters excel because they have extra intensity than mere mortals. The fight is one week away. ali says:
Damn Pac don't even have control over who's in his corner wow!!! Not a smart move by Freddie Roach. I bet Ariza is going to spill the beans about Pac using PEDs but like Denzel Washington said in Training Day it ain't what u know it's what u can prove but it will tarnish Pac legacy like it has (Bonds, McGuire ect) Pac better start taking the random blood test from here on out and look good in those fights or even some of his fans will start to think his not a clean athlete. ali says:
Damn Pac don't even have control over who's in his corner wow!!! Not a smart move by Freddie Roach. I bet Ariza is going to spill the beans about Pac using PEDs but like Denzel Washington said in Training Day it ain't what u know it's what u can prove but it will tarnish Pac legacy like it has (Bonds, McGuire ect) Pac better start taking the random blood test from here on out and look good in those fights or even some of his fans will start to think his not a clean athlete. the Roast says:
Oh boy, here we go. Radam vs Ali. Ding ding... the Roast says:
Oh boy, here we go. Radam vs Ali. Ding ding... SouthPaul says:
Boxing Brethren ali says:
Fe'Roz keep it real u got all these fighters saying that guys are cheating and now that were having some random blood testing guys are getting caught. I haven't once heard Pac say he wants to help clean up the sport. Fe'Roz why? You would think every fighter would be on the same page when it comes to PEDs there life is on the line in that squared circle. Radam G says: SCLA Ali, how is your grill? I bet that it is all messed up. That is usually the case. Some brotha with messing and rottening parts of his grill paranoid and blaming success on syet that his heroes keep coming up dirty with. Just face the fact, SCLA Ali. It is a known fact -- reported by HBO -- that Money May was on a steroid known as xylocaine. But lucky for Lil' Floyd that jive is legal in Sin City and the whole states of Nevada and Michigan. How convenient! Radam G says: SCLA Ali, how is your grill? I bet that it is all messed up. That is usually the case. Some brotha with messing and rottening parts of his grill paranoid and blaming success on syet that his heroes keep coming up dirty with. Just face the fact, SCLA Ali. It is a known fact -- reported by HBO -- that Money May was on a steroid known as xylocaine. But lucky for Lil' Floyd that jive is legal in Sin City and the whole states of Nevada and Michigan. How convenient! Real Talk says: Bradley does look a little too muscled and a lil too slow to me. I hope he's sandbagging or I don't see this being competitive at all. And for the record Pacman was more muscled than Ricky Hatton and Cotto and they waited for Mosley too hit 40 and look shot. #IJS Real Talk says: They trained Pacman together as a team so Ariza deserve credit as well. Pacman retained him because he believes in his training methods. Roach is getting jealous, he's not above the human emotion of jealousy. I peeped that in the Marquez 3 fight. If he could he would chuck Buboy too but he knows his limits. Who are you to judge Floyd for what he did, let he who is without fault cast the first stone. #IJS deepwater says: a strength a conditioning coach should know his role. he is not the captain, roach is. if your not on board with the captain of the ship, then you walk the plank. deepwater says: a strength a conditioning coach should know his role. he is not the captain, roach is. if your not on board with the captain of the ship, then you walk the plank. brownsugar says: Wow Fe'roz,.. you're one of the most astute and intelligent posters to grace the TSS. ali says: B-Sug is a all-time great love your last post. Fe'Roz everybody has a breaking point even u god didn't make us perfect. ali says: B-Sug is a all-time great love your last post. Fe'Roz everybody has a breaking point even u god didn't make us perfect. ali says: Fe'Roz your assuming he doesn't know know anything about Manny using PEDs and u know what they say about ppl who assume. Im just saying I got a feeling he's going to pill the beans I could be wrong we'll have to wait and see. Radam G says: SCLA Ali, you are always on B-Sug's cojones because you cannot find your tiny-arse ones. Hehehe! You can stand to keep losing your heroes to all type of syet as woman abuse and steroid sippin' and injectin!' There have been a lot of Ebonicans caught juicing and needling. [Money May, as his boy 50 Cent, are known, documented users. And you cannot accept that. Just like you couldn't accept drug dealing and pushing by the various black organizations, such as the Black Ps.] Radam G says: BTW, B-Sug, "fostering gambling houses" is a way of life among Catholics and Muslims, no matter how you try to twist it. Number games, such as lottos, have never stop among Catholics and Muslims. It is some ancient jive that the Catholics and Muslims mixed into their religions when they under the ruling powers of the Romans, Egyptians, Greeks and Mongolians. Radam G says: Oh, yea! Ariza is a glorified, hyped-up waterboy, who got too big for his britches. We give him a lot of credit for that water and everything else. ____ ____ ___ ___ ____! Keep dreaming about PEDs. Name me one Pinoy champion who has been dirty with PEDs or steroids. You can go to YouTube and hear and see HBO talking head Lampley spill the beans on Money May. Holla! Radam G says: Oh, yea! Ariza is a glorified, hyped-up waterboy, who got too big for his britches. We give him a lot of credit for that water and everything else. ____ ____ ___ ___ ____! Keep dreaming about PEDs. Name me one Pinoy champion who has been dirty with PEDs or steroids. You can go to YouTube and hear and see HBO talking head Lampley spill the beans on Money May. Holla! brownsugar says: RG if you think someone or something is close to my cajones,..Are you sure it's not your grille? brownsugar says: Fe'Roz,.. Nobody here condones domestic violence. In a perfect world domestic violence wouldn't even exist. But it happens on a regular basis, .......it's a crime committed by cops (I actually know a few), Doctors, lawyers, Congressmen,...... it's committed by the full spectrum of society and judges mitigate punishment by determining to what degree and what circumstances initiated the crime. The individuals who get caught and are punished accordingly and to the degree the crime was committed. the Roast says: Celtics!!! dino da vinci says: Yes, Celtics! undisputed34 says: Last time I checked, I thought xylocaine was an anesthetic...not a steroid. But what do I know...I'm not a doctor.. Radam G says: Check again, und34. You Money May groupie are simply amazing. Matter of fact, go to Youtube and hear what Jim Lampley said about the favorite roid of Money May. Now you come with some bullsyet make-believe ____ ___ __! Radam G says: BTW, und34, even if you want to call it an anesthetic. It still cannot be used because it would fall in the catagory of PEDs. It is on the list of PEDs in every state and in amateur competition, but Nevada and Michigan. Check the record for yourself. Radam G says: BTW, B-Sug, the sport has always been "global." And I severely doubt that Kuya Fe'Roz has an obsession with one boxer's crime." Wow! You are really an apologist and sympathizer for a dirtbag. And Money May doesn't about care being a dirtbag or scumbag. It is all about being street to him. He is clearly pathological. He feels entitled and doesn't understand consequences for self-bad behavior. Wow! He's almost a splitting image of Tupac Shukar. Another one of my boys who was clearly pathological and is now gone too soon. And you probably know how, when and where he was gunned down. Radam G says: Also, B-Sug! You are an archmaster at taking things out of context and trying to turn them into race-bait nonsense. Wow! And you love to just twist words to the way that you want them to be for racism effect. And, of course, racism effect mainly to those who are slow witty and apparently slow in reading comprehension. Radam G says: Also, B-Sug! You are an archmaster at taking things out of context and trying to turn them into race-bait nonsense. Wow! And you love to just twist words to the way that you want them to be for racism effect. And, of course, racism effect mainly to those who are slow witty and apparently slow in reading comprehension. Radam G says: Also, B-Sug! You are an archmaster at taking things out of context and trying to turn them into race-bait nonsense. Wow! And you love to just twist words to the way that you want them to be for racism effect. And, of course, racism effect mainly to those who are slow witty and apparently slow in reading comprehension. Radam G says: I'm back from my Sin City gambling for a minute, and da brotha in my posse said that I musta' fo'got! Now I have figured out why you are so upset and seeming so angry, B-Sug. It doesn't matter if you deny it or not, but you are mourning the relationship lost of your girl, "Chocolate," in your own words. Radam G says: Oh, YUP! BTW the Mick Jagger's got bigger lips than my boy Jay-Z. So, B-Sug, you unintentionally hit me with a stereotype. Big lips just don't belong to any one group of people. I know a lot of unmixed whites and Asians with God-Given BIG lips and curly hair. They got no work done. They were born that way. You will be surprised what exist in this topsy-turvy world. brownsugar says: RG, My grand daddy used to say,.. a hit dog'll holler,.. and your the only one here bumping your gums trying to get personal, and you don't even know me, if your not man enough to appologize. this conversation is over. what do you think this is?? Face book? Radam G says:
Wow! That is just fine with me. I always knew that you were ___ __ ___ _ ____ and ______ _--- ___ + ____ - ____! And Da Manny is da best. And Lil' Floyd -- the dirtbag woman beater -- doesn't want to be another PacMan' conquest. Holla!
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Smiles abound here, but 24/7 viewers can see the tension as Freddie Roach and Alex Ariza feud. (Chris Farina-Top Rank)
Wow! What's up with this? I give all the Pac-haters the chance to respond first, and they don't! Okay! Now you know I'm gonna spit some serious factual sh*t!
Timmy Bradley is muscle-bound and brute-force trained, not sweet science movement and balance fluid trained. Thus, da sucka lacks even decent punching power and hair-trigger quickness or even pedestrian speed of foot and hand.
He puts his magic fighting acts on da know nothings, Bradley's groupies, fanboys, flunkies and Pac-haters with all of that flouncing and fluctuating.
I'm reminded of Cinderella. And TB's big, ole dome looks like a chocolate pumpkin. And past midnight -- EST -- on June 10, Da Manny's gonna smash that pumkin. KaBOOM! Down and out goes Cali Cranium Crusherella. And da jive sucka didn't even have on silver slippers. OOPS! I musta' fo'got! He was at an PacMan's arse thrashing, not a ball. Hehehehe! Holla!