"Face Off" Recap: Roach Says Manny Will Get Late KO On Bradley |
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Tuesday, 15 May 2012 11:11
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Max Kellerman sat down with Manny Pacquiao and his June 9 foe, Timothy Bradley, and the results were shown on his HBO program "Face Off." "One of the most sensational fighters of this or any era," Kellerman said by way of introducing the Congressman, Pacquiao. The host said that this time around, Manny is in with a young, hungry, unbeaten opponent. We saw Pacquiao sitting next to trainer Freddie Roach, and Bradley next to his trainer, Joel Diaz. You know, of course, that most of the time, these Face Off's feature just the combatants, but Roach can be a stellar soundbite-machine, who talks some top-grade trash, so it seemed wise to add him to the mix. Bradley was asked what it means to get a shot like this. "It's an honor," he said. I got to say, I am happy for the man that he will make upwards of $9 million for the bout, but I really don't want to hear fighters talk about what an honor it is to get a gig like this. The gratification one feels can subconsciously seep in to how one fights, in my mind. You saw Shane Mosley's gratitude on display, I think, when he and Pacquiao faced off, and treated the clash too much for too many rounds like a sparring match amongst friends. We can hope there won't be that dynamic in play in Vegas on June 9. Max noted that it's been awhile since Manny met someone in their prime. Why did Manny go with Bradley? Because he can't underestimate him, he said. As Freddie Roach has noted to me, Manny underestimated Juan Manuel Marquez, in his last outing, so he wanted to make sure he was mentally charged this time around. Bradley, a clever politician, said, "Pacquiao is number one, pound for pound, in the game." Max picked up on that, asking if Pacquiao is better than Floyd Mayweather. The underdog paused and said, "I don't know. We have to see." Those two would have to square off to determine who is best, and Bradley said he wants to screw up that plan. Roach was asked why Bradley? The trainer said he wasn't his first choice. Floyd was first choice, Manny said. Roach said options aren't endless. Roach said his guy wins many fights because he prepares the hardest. Diaz chimed in, saying that he thinks no one trains harder than his kid. Roach said his guy will train harder, and that's why they will win. Bradley laughed and said, "They don't know, man. They really don't know." Bradley was asked about calling out Pacquiao after beating Luis Abregu in July 2010, saying, "Come break down this wall." He said he felt he could beat Pacman, and called himself a wall because he cannot be broken. Roach said they can break the wall, and will "get him out of there in the late rounds." Bradley, Kellerman says, stands out because it seems like his willpower is way above average. "Anyone can be broken," Roach said. "No," Bradley said, not so. Diaz said his guy gets stronger later, so it'd be wise to try to stop him early. His guy will be extra careful early. Bradley said he will box and brawl, because Manny is a warrior. "He's going to fight to the end," he said. Fred said that they will be ready for the head, the butt. He doesn't think Bradley is dirty, but he wants Manny to combat the head with punches. Roach said he knows Bradley and his style, and that he will revert back to his toe-to-toe style. "It's not an easy fight, but entertainment wise, this is one of the best fights we could ever have. We'll see how good his chin really is." Levity was inserted when Max asked Bradley what he sees when he looks at Manny. "Handsome," the Congressman said, breaking up the table. "I like Manny, I like Manny a lot," Bradley said. Max noted that Manny is helping Bradley get rich, but Bradley said that is not the key thing. Being number one is, he stated. Pacquiao was then asked what he thought when looking at Bradley. "Handsome," he said again. Bradley cracked up again. Roach was asked the same. He said quality opponent, comes to fight, and it will be an explosive fight. It's time for Manny to look impressive, especially after the lackluster Marquez scrap, the trainer said. Asked for predictions, Diaz said they will look for the stoppage, noting that Roach has said that all fights should ideally end via KO. They just need to do a bit more than JMM, he said. "I don't see it going the distance," Roach said. Max asked what would happen if he gets buzzed early. He said he will stay in the game, and stay resolute. "I want to feel the pain," he said. "Bring it on, I'm up for the challenge, bring it on." Yes, there will be toe to toe trading, Bradley said. Chances will need to be taken. He said he has to hurt Pacquiao. Bradley had no final words for Pacquiao, while Pacquiao said he wants to give the fans a great event, and that he prays for him, and "God bless you." deepwater says:
I predict an early ko for manny. big head bradley will try and get aggressive and its good night, almost like hatton. Radam G says: Tim "Cali Cranium Crusher" Bradley has been spittin' much smack. And that is all that he has -- a noise-talking attack! Dude's game is straight-up WHACK! He can't hit hard enough to punch through a papersack. To da gut and upside da big, ole cranium, his arse Da Manny is gonna easily whack. undisputed34 says: I can actually see this being a repeat of mayweather-cotto in that Bradley gives manny a tougher fight than he expects. I have manny by a comfortable UD because Timothy is going to have to knock him down atleast once and wobble him all night long to get the V and I just can't see that. Who knows though...I can see Bradley being energized by cottos performance and wanting to let people know that Floyd and Manny aren't the only two welterweights in the division...unless he gets bombed out early, his stock still rises.. deepwater says: lol. props to pac man for speaking his mind and taking on obama. +1 for pacman. ali says: Easy fight for Pac but if Bradley can stay under control and not get too excited he has action. But the way he's talking tells me he won't so that means he's GETTING KTFO!! Early. Radam G says: Und34, I can see that you need to get your eyes checked. Holla! Radam G says: Und34, I can see that you need to get your eyes checked. Holla! CPX says: Man I am pumped for this fight, Manolo all the way in a thrilla baby!!!! undisputed34 says: @ Radam...the way manny looked in his last fight, im not going to say he is unbeatable in this one. Timothy Bradley isnt a world beater but he isnt juan urango either. My philosophy is i dont care if you knocked out 100 guys in a 100 nights. What're you bringing tonite? I thought money would steam roll miguel and i was reminded that any fighter can pull a buster douglas and have the best night of his entire life. You guys can believe manny will get the early KO, but one thing i learned about manny in his fight against shane, is that manny cant knock out a guy who wont allow himself to be knocked out. i still have him by a comfortable decision, though. if joel diaz has any sense in his head, he wont have timmy fighting to mannys strengths. He'll have him box smartly and TRY and counter punch him. he has to know that getting in mannys chest is not a good idea Radam G says: You are free to think and to stink, Un34! No pugilist "is unbeatable" on any day against anybody. No need to justify your Pac-hating and Cali Cranium Crusher hopes. Da Manny is going to kayo da sucka. And you will still say that Da Manny look like syet. Okey! All in the prejudice eyes of the beholders of bullsh*tology, reality distortion and actuality corrupted imagination. And, of course, Money May mass nuthugging. "B" says: Please get off certain boxers n---sacks lol( to whom ever this applies to ) ..I just want to thank all the folks who actually allow objectivity to creep into their arguments once in a while...And fighting Manny on the inside and getting physical is exactly what Tim should do. You dont want to get into a boxing match or slugfest with Manny. He has the type of Power that even if he clips u with a shot he can seriously hurt you. But all fighters have weaknesses and if you watch Manny fight( or any other Freddie Roach trained fighter) it seems they dont have any real inside game. Manny mask his inability to fight on the inside by playing to the crowd and showcasing his toughness. Just watch any of his fights. He just covers up and stands there. It makes for a crowdpleasing fight but Those who really watch boxing can see his ineptitude in those moments. And before the manny pom pom girls try to bash me lol...just watch the fights and know that I am a "boxing" fan...Not a fan of fighters expept my boy G-Russel Jr.... "B" says: Please get off certain boxers n---sacks lol( to whom ever this applies to ) ..I just want to thank all the folks who actually allow objectivity to creep into their arguments once in a while...And fighting Manny on the inside and getting physical is exactly what Tim should do. You dont want to get into a boxing match or slugfest with Manny. He has the type of Power that even if he clips u with a shot he can seriously hurt you. But all fighters have weaknesses and if you watch Manny fight( or any other Freddie Roach trained fighter) it seems they dont have any real inside game. Manny mask his inability to fight on the inside by playing to the crowd and showcasing his toughness. Just watch any of his fights. He just covers up and stands there. It makes for a crowdpleasing fight but Those who really watch boxing can see his ineptitude in those moments. And before the manny pom pom girls try to bash me lol...just watch the fights and know that I am a "boxing" fan...Not a fan of fighters expept my boy G-Russel Jr.... undisputed34 says: Interesting point of view, B...I never really noticed that..it seems that in most of mannys fights, no one has been able to force him to do something he doesn't want to do (except marquez ) and everyone who gets close to him, despite his possible inability to fight on the inside, gets the worse of the exchanges. Manny does stand there at times but unlike khan, he doesn't run and he does throw back. You think timmy can outwork him before Pac could hurt him? That sounds like it would be a long, or possibly really short, night for Bradley. Does Bradley possess enough power @ 147 to get Pacs attention on the inside? Manny likes to dart in and dart out at unconventional angles which gives most of his opponents fits, I was thinking Bradley should take a page from the JMM playbook and mix smart boxing and counterpunching with controlling the distance...I noticed that Marquez never lets Pacquiao get too far out of range nor too close, thereby minimizing mannys ability to explode in and out...it seems to nullify his overall speed or at the very least, makes him uncomfortable. With a varied punch selection, I think Timothy can acquit himself well...what do you think? Radam G says: "To whom ever that this appies to!" Radam G says: The Bluecoat Cali Cranium Crusher better run like Bambi, because Da Manny will bust him up, cut him and fudge him up inside. In the words of Uncle Roger May: "Most people don't know syet 'bout boksin!'" amayseng says: Interesting point of view, B...I never really noticed that..it seems that in most of mannys fights, no one has been able to force him to do something he doesn't want to do (except marquez ) and everyone who gets close to him, despite his possible inability to fight on the inside, gets the worse of the exchanges. Manny does stand there at times but unlike khan, he doesn't run and he does throw back. You think timmy can outwork him before Pac could hurt him? That sounds like it would be a long, or possibly really short, night for Bradley. Does Bradley possess enough power @ 147 to get Pacs attention on the inside? Manny likes to dart in and dart out at unconventional angles which gives most of his opponents fits, I was thinking Bradley should take a page from the JMM playbook and mix smart boxing and counterpunching with controlling the distance...I noticed that Marquez never lets Pacquiao get too far out of range nor too close, thereby minimizing mannys ability to explode in and out...it seems to nullify his overall speed or at the very least, makes him uncomfortable. With a varied punch selection, I think Timothy can acquit himself well...what do you think? tim is not an inside fighter, he is a stalker and pressure fighter. inside fighting is what you saw mickey ward do, diego corrales, hagler. the ability to stand on top of your fighter with physical contact and be effective with shots is inside fighting. bradley is a superb fighter but he is no "inside" fighter. undisputed34 says: @ amayseng...I know what inside fighting is but thanks for the refresher. Perhaps you should remind B, since he thinks that Timothy can win the fight that way. I stand by my opinion that his best chance to win is by trying to control the distance and and counterpunching aggressively...not waiting too much on manny or he'll get out worked, but not allowing himself to get into a slugging match either. If Timothy controls the tempo, counters manny aggressively and uses his boxing ability then he will have used all the tools he possesses to fight the best fight he can. Other than that, there's nothing left but the intangibles we all face once we get in the ring on fight night. Radam G says: Und34 is the publicist of the bluecoat Cali Cranium Crusher. Da sucka's bet weapon is his big, ole, chocolate dome. And Team Pac already has a solution for that. "B" says: @ Undisputed34...I am not saying that Bradley is an inside fighter such as a B-hop or Floyd.. But I do believe its a way to make manny uncomfortable and force him off his game. manny is a Rythm fighter and what Jaun does more than any fighter is interupt Manny's Rythmm. Tim in my opinion has the physical strengh, awkwardness, and mentality to make Manny very uncomfortable. I think its also because He possesses quick enough feet to somewhat move with manny and limit some of his crazy angle advantages. I would not try to pull a page out of Marquez's book because no one can box or counterpunch like that. But one thing is for certain.. Manny almost has no defense for a good jab...Well not much defense at all actually. He just overwelms guys with his speed and power and determination. Plus he has a six sense for when a fighter wants to take a break and he jumps right on you kinda like Aaron Pryor used to back in the day. I can not wait to see this fight. If he beats up Tim I will be impressed...How do you guys see it playing out... The Good Doctor says: Call me crazy, I don't have this as a close fight. I think Manny is going to overwhelm Tim. Tim has never shown himself to be a great counterpuncher which you have to be against Manny. Also, I think Tim is going to try and firefight Manny which is exactly what Pac wants. In addition, Bradley has never shown huge power, (KO% under 45) so I am pretty sure he does not hit hard enough to back Manny up. I think Manny wins handily, 10-2 and knocks down Bradley twice. Radam G says: Then BE IMPRESSED, B! Da Manny is gonna straight KICK the Cali Cranium Crusher's natural arse. You should wash your mouth out with Asian coconut soap for even remotely thinking that TCCC could come close to mimicking "Hawk Time" Aaron Pryor. FYI, Hawk Time is Asian to da bone. He's one of the greatest Asian-American pugilists of all times. Anyway, enough about Hawk Time. Radam G says: Und34, WOW! If you are coming back from rehab, you should go back. You have not fully recovered and now you are just like Tim Bradley is -- SEEING THINGS. Now I know that Dessert -- I mean Desert Storm -- is having problems with seeing mirages. That darn desert climate and weather in Palm Springs cause that syet. Maybe Bradley has telepathically transferred all types of dumb syet up inside your cranium. He probably even telepathically butted your arse. Hehehehe! undisputed34 says: @ B...im still finding it hard to believe that Bradley can handle it up close with Manny who has been putting the beats on bigger guys and busting them up, not to mention Manny is in another league from every fighter Tim has been in with. I don't know if Tim is feeling jittery about the fight, but to get on that big a stage and try to implement that gameplan against the best fighter you've ever been in with would take some huge cojones...I'm looking forward to it too. If Manny beats Tim into submission i will be mildly impressed since Tim is a young, eager and truly talented guy but If Manny is the top dog pound for pound (or atleast one of two guys who consider themselves such) he's supposed to outclass an untested guy moving up in weight. Radam G says: Und34! Quit acting like a dentist and getting all up in my grill. You are just trying to get a thrill. I don't play Jack, and you are no Jill! So let us not take it to the hill. I don't shoulder and or butt roll that way. YUP! You are wrong! You need Uncle Roger May. Because in the end, about the Cali Cranium Crusher, you will be singing that same old song: "Somebodeee dial my phone number....[and] It's like another luv TKO!" Holla! brownsugar says: I finally checked out the show. Bradley looked like an 18 year old kid... but the steely gaze he fixed firmly on Roach and Pac was that of a veteran and would have caused lesser men to become unmanned at the sight of his fiery determination. Radam G says: B-Sug, Da Manny is gonna knock da double fudging burning lights outta Bradley's eyes. I agree that Bradley is no Hatton clone. Hatton was better than what Bradley is. Tim Bradley, reminiscent of Sugar Shane before the Sugarman fought Money May and Da Manny, is just mouthing off. Maybe, worse, the Cali Cranium Crusher is a bit suicidal. Didn't you hear his sublimical messages in that HBO piece about him thinking about commiting suicide, but "won't ever do it....But it cross my mind...(athletes) do it because they [stand] the pressure." brownsugar says: RG,.....We are going to find out a lot of things about both men on fight night,... That's why I'm waiting to see how Tim looks at the weight-in before I can commit to saying more about him. If he comes in with the same confidence and deliberance that he did against Alexander and Peterson,.. I think we'll see a good show. Tim will fight in spots,.. grapple... potshot from the outside and use lateral movement. and when Manny slows down a few milliseconds like he usually does in the second half of the fight... I think things will become very interesting. "B" says: @ Radam G....... first off thanks for responding to my post( even though you misread it) lol and giving your thoughts. I will say secondly that I have no hate or love for any fighters of today really. Maybe it isnt the fact that i have, in your opinion a perceived "hate" for Manny but that fact that you have a deep Love for Manny. I mean I compared the guy to Aaron Pryor for God's sake lol. How could I hate the guy? But you definitely know Game RG.... I would never say otherwise but When it comes to Manny and evaluating him I dont think any of tss nation would accuse you of being objective lol. I mean there is not a bigger Manny fan than you on this site. All fighters have glaring flaws in my opinion. No fighter is invincible. Boxing is about matchmaking and balancing box office attractions, competitive fights, smart bussiness, as well as careful match making. But you speak about Manny as if he is God. No figher is untouchable including Floyd. I am not picking on Manny but I have to look at it real. As GREAT as he is he still has issues moving his head and dealing With jabs and straight punches and oh yes...fighting on the inside. He wins fights because he is in sick shape and he is probably one of the best physical specimens we will ever see. Trying to say he adapts and adjust and all that other crap is a little to much. Who has he adapted to???? Hatton?? Clottey?? Margarito?? Old A** Morales?? come on man....He doesnt adapt and adjust to Maquez does he??? You tell me what you think Manny's weanesses are? does he have any RG? Radam G says: Wow, B! You be great at gettin' on your reality distortion just to get up in my grill. Are you the hypersensitive type? I have mad love for hyperbole syet. Hater is just another throw-away phrase like "you know wha' I'm talkin' about," and "you be talkin' smack and syet." C'mon, man! Don't be a word wuzzy! Hehehehe! And don't try to make me look lame. Of course every fighter and dey momma have faults and flaws. But analysises about many of those faults and flaws are just talkin' and makin-up-syet base by the so-called and so-labelled experts. Uncle Roger May keep tellin' yall dat most of 'em don't know sh*t 'bout boksin!' Radam G says: Wow, B! You be great at gettin' on your reality distortion just to get up in my grill. Are you the hypersensitive type? I have mad love for hyperbole syet. Hater is just another throw-away phrase like "you know wha' I'm talkin' about," and "you be talkin' smack and syet." C'mon, man! Don't be a word wuzzy! Hehehehe! And don't try to make me look lame. Of course every fighter and dey momma have faults and flaws. But analysises about many of those faults and flaws are just talkin' and makin-up-syet base by the so-called and so-labelled experts. Uncle Roger May keep tellin' yall dat most of 'em don't know sh*t 'bout boksin!' "B" says: lol. Just send me an invite so I can RSVP for the wedding ...... Radam G says: __ ___ ___ __ __ ___ you, B! Holla! Radam G says:
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"Yes Freddie, I know I called Bradley handsome and I do not care what Mayweather says about that." (Chris Farina photo)
I think roach has been wrong on most of his predictions. The Roach Jinx