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    BY FRANK LOTIERZO

    Talk about an elite fighter with options! Mikey Garcia has a plethora if he can defeat Sergey Lipinets this weekend for the IBF super lightweight title. Mikey has been on a run lately collecting belts. After dealing with promotional issues and not fighting once between January of 2014 and July of 2016, Garcia has picked up belts in two different divisions.

    On January 28th of 2017 he knocked out Dejan Zlaticanin in the third round to win the WBC lightweight title and then followed that with a 12-round unanimous decision over Adrien Broner to add the WBC Diamond super lightweight title to his collection. This weekend Garcia 37-0 (30) will challenge IBF super lightweight title holder Sergey Lipinets 13-0 (10) at the Freeman Coliseum in San Antonio, Texas. The fight was originally scheduled for February 10th but was pushed back to March 10th when Lipinets suffered a hand injury while training.

    Mikey Garcia is ranked as the sixth best pound for pound fighter in boxing in the latest poll of The Ring magazine. I think he should be included in the top five and above Sergey Kovalev and Gennady Golovkin who are ranked slightly above him, but it's all conjecture. The point is that Garcia, 30, is the most technically sound fighter in boxing from a fundamentals vantage point. He does everything the way it's supposed to be done without any wasted movement or punching.

    Lipinets, 28, is more experienced than his total number of fights indicates. He’s a pretty strong and aggressive fighter who can fight going back and also possesses pretty good head movement. He goes to the body and has an inside game but only goes there in spurts. Sergey isn't a defensive wizard but gets hit less often and is a little more elusive than some give him credit for. Garcia is the sharper and more accurate puncher and I believe his accuracy will translate into his punches landing with more impact, resulting in Sergey looking to clinch or break off some of the exchanges. However, I think Lipinets, because of his physical strength, will be in this fight more than the long odds suggest. Sure, Garcia does everything better that is asked of a fighter and is capable of winning by stoppage, but if he does it'll likely come later in the bout.

    Fighting at 140 may prove to be Garcia's ceiling after making his mark as a featherweight weighing in at 126. If he defeats Lipinets he'll hold recognized world titles at 135 and 140 with a multitude of options. He's recently stated that lightweight is his true division and wants to unify the titles there....meaning highly anticipated confrontations await him with Jorge Linares 44-3 (27) who holds the WBA title and Robert Easter 21-0 (14) who is in possession of the IBF title.

    A unification bout with Linares would be the most intriguing of the two because Jorge is a complete boxer who can throw every punch in the book with accuracy and respectable power. Linares has a beautiful left hand that he uses well both offensively and defensively. Jorge's issue fighting Garcia would be that he cuts easily and can be worn down. Mikey would be the bigger and stronger guy and, on top of that, it's doubtful Linares punches hard enough to make Garcia do anything he doesn’t want to. And then there's Easter. Fighting Easter wouldn't be as lucrative as a fight with Linares, but getting the IBF belt would add to his cachet and set him up for the biggest fight of his career, a bout with WBO super featherweight title holder Vasyl Lomachenko.

    Recently Mikey has talked about moving up to welterweight and challenging IBF champ Errol Spence, but that may have been just talk. Spence would prove to be too big and physically strong for him and, in reality, unless it’s for a lot of money, I don't see it happening as not many would see Garcia as a genuine threat and Spence wouldn't get a ton of credit for beating him. That said, it could be an option for Garcia who is in a good position with nearly a handful of big fights to choose from.

    The authentic superfight would be a showdown between him and Vasyl Lomachenko at 135 with Mikey holding a couple of the belts. Lomachenko is looking better and gaining more confidence every time out. But as great a fighter as Garcia is, it must be noted that he is a very shrewd self-manager along the lines of Bernard Hopkins and Floyd Mayweather, so there's no way with so many options available to him that Garcia is going to rush into his next fight (providing, of course, that he defeats Lipinets).

    Garcia knows Lomachenko is his lottery fight and vice versa, but I can see Mikey trying to push it back for a while in order to position himself better. Holding multiple titles simultaneously would hopefully insure his bargaining power is at its optimum and there's no B-side with the money split being on even terms at the worst.....along with the weight at which they fight and any other specifics that Mikey can work to his favor. Make no mistake, Garcia is fully cognizant Lomachenko is the new media darling and in a close fight it's doubtful he'd get the benefit of the doubt from the judges.

    The stylistic clash between Garcia and Lomachenko is a promoter's dream. Garcia is the common man who punches the clock and does it in the ring according to the advanced textbook. Lomachenko is more dynamic and better eye-candy whose style is more based on athleticism and unconventionality. Both can be the stylistic foil for the other, depending on which fighter can execute and impose himself on the other. And that'll make for a great fight.

    This time three years ago some had written Mikey Garcia off due to his dispute with Top Rank. Yet one can now make the case that he has at least as many and maybe more lucrative fights in front of him as any other fighter in boxing. Regarding Lomachenko, Garcia knows that the fight everyone wants to see is a fight between him and Vasyl. He's also aware of how that gives him some leverage when it finally happens. Actually, Lomachenko's emergence has been beneficial for Garcia in that he's considered the only fighter at 135 who could beat Vasyl, thus allowing him to string it along until he gets things the way he wants. And if he doesn't, he can move up to junior welterweight and fight the best there with the hopes of picking up the baton Terence Crawford left for the fighter who emerges as the best among those fighting to occupy the perch he once held at the top.

    Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com

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  • #2
    Loma rules

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kid Blast View Post
      Loma rules
      Great post, Ted! Insightful Too!

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      • #4
        HAHAHAHA. Garcia could not handle Loma's uncanny skills. Mikey is top notch but not good enough for Loma. The blue print is in the Siri fights. If Loma breaks Gacia's nose, he will finish him off. Loam has moves that Mikey has never seen. Mikey has moves that Loma HAS seen. End of story.

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        • #5
          Ya mean the 10 win once beaten Loma, right?

          We'll see...not sure who I like in that one but Garcia has as good a chance as Loma. He should wear a Salido mask in the ring.....wait...lemme step back so I can shield off the excuses for losing to a 13-loss fighter!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by GlovedFist View Post
            Ya mean the 10 win once beaten Loma, right?

            We'll see...not sure who I like in that one but Garcia has as good a chance as Loma. He should wear a Salido mask in the ring.....wait...lemme step back so I can shield off the excuses for losing to a 13-loss fighter!
            Overweight, bad judges, Dirty fighter. Butts. Elbows. Low Blows. Bad ref. And plenty more. Sire didn't beat Loma and everyone knows it, but even assuming he did, so what? If Loma fights Mikey, Garcia will taste defeat for the first time. Most now rate Loma the best P4P guy out there. Garcia is maybe the best guy with fundamental skills, but Loma is different. He trains differently and he fights differently under the watchful eyes of his genius father, Look, this is Hi-Tech. This is different. This is something we have not seen since maybe an early Camacho. The man does things in that ring that border on the surreal. Garcia is a great technician and can pop. But Loma can do it ALL.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kid Blast View Post

              Overweight, bad judges, Dirty fighter. Butts. Elbows. Low Blows. Bad ref. And plenty more. Sire didn't beat Loma and everyone knows it, but even assuming he did, so what? If Loma fights Mikey, Garcia will taste defeat for the first time. Most now rate Loma the best P4P guy out there. Garcia is maybe the best guy with fundamental skills, but Loma is different. He trains differently and he fights differently under the watchful eyes of his genius father, Look, this is Hi-Tech. This is different. This is something we have not seen since maybe an early Camacho. The man does things in that ring that border on the surreal. Garcia is a great technician and can pop. But Loma can do it ALL.
              Okay, Ted. I'm not gonna jump on Loma...but stop with the excuses...they can come back to bite ya. I just hope they fight. Garcia has much more than the others to trouble and beat him at 135...I just hope we find out about his chin - something that is unknown.

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              • #8
                does that mean I "won" this skirmish?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Kid Blast View Post
                  does that mean I "won" this skirmish?
                  No! It means I'm objective and just because I don't think Loma walks on water - I acknowledge that he's capable of beating Mikey, just not sure he will. Then again Mikey has to knock him out because Loma is the new chosen one, so Garcia couldn't get a decision short of beating him to death.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GlovedFist View Post

                    No! It means I'm objective and just because I don't think Loma walks on water - I acknowledge that he's capable of beating Mikey, just not sure he will. Then again Mikey has to knock him out because Loma is the new chosen one, so Garcia couldn't get a decision short of beating him to death.
                    That has the same ring to it as Wilder/AJ. I will be ready to bet if Loma fights Mikey and I mean BET.

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                    • #11
                      We actually have seen skills/talent like Loma before.

                      And, in some cases they have been better and more dynamic.

                      Hamed trained (when he did) in a more comprehensively sensational and unique way than Loma.

                      Although Nasem was perhaps not as fundamenatally sound in some areas; he was arguably more dynamic than Loma.



                      Hamed widened the (trigonometric) attacking *sectant (and therefore options) using movement and other techniques to do so; and he possessed the bigger tool kit, and almost always won by KO.

                      People have been witnessing similar skills as Loma but just don’t recognize it, for various reasons.



                      Mayweather (particularly as “Pretty Boy”) had/displayed all, and even more, the skills of/than Loma.

                      But people don’t personally like Mayweather or understand his boxing style.

                      Loma fights with a different style to Floyd; where the emphasis is on widening the (trigonometric) attacking *sector (and therefore options) and using movement to do so.

                      Widening the (trigonometric) attacking sector is actually an Eastern martial art philosophy.



                      Floyd has displayed the same skills, but (whilst his movement has been almost perfect) his preference - particularly in the “Money May” portion of his career - has been to utilse the slip/slide and shoulder roll technique of creating openings; which Loma doesn’t openly practice in competition.

                      Floyd’s style provides economy of motion, protection, and creates openings that rely on superior reflexes and speed.

                      As proven by the test of time and (at this point) better competition than Loma; Floyd’s style is slightly superior to Loma’s because of the first aforementioned component; economy of motion.



                      Loma (despite how good he is) spends energy to create (the movement that provides his) openings and this works whilst he fights opponents that don’t know how to deal with that.

                      That said, is still a brilliant technique that is executed “almost” perfectly.

                      I say almost, as . . . . .

                      Loma makes tiny defensive mistakes as he executes his movements and techniques; which means he will need to be matched carefully as he fights better competition - including competition approaching the technique/style of guy’s like Terrence Crawford.

                      Crawford - even if they were the same weight - would probably catch Loma misdstream and hurt him; even if Loma won.



                      Whether or not Loma’s style works with guys that know how to diffuse it and hit him hard, remains to be seen.

                      We know Floyd’s and Hamed’s techniques worked well against various styles and opponents.

                      Forget the Barerra fight/loss for Hamed.

                      Hamed was not training properly for that; and had not trained properly for almost a year prior; yet he still completed the full 10 or 12 rounds.


                      Pacquaio - before he was knocked out by Marquez - used to employ almost all of the artful southpaw techniques and movement that Loma uses.

                      And as Pacquaio fought better and better competition it is clear he required astute matchmaking and/or catchweight clauses to continuously win.

                      There is a solution to almost every defensive/attacking technique.

                      Floyd’s included.

                      And, Loma is no different.


                      In fact Loma actually possesse a technique that is no more unique than Roy Jones, Naseem Hamed, and possibly a few others (Rigondeaux included).


                      Mikey - I believe - can not effectively compete at the top level as a welterweight right now.

                      Sure he’s claiming he has other reasons for staying in the lightweight division.

                      But although he’s technically sound, I say he’s too small and without enough power to compete with the top guns at welterweight.

                      Spence, Thurman, Porter, Garcia, Crawford, possibly even Brook, would walk through him.



                      Finally, please note the difference in my above-mentioned post between *sector and *sectant; that favors Hamed.

                      It is the difference between 2 and 3 dimensions.

                      Clearly the latter is of better utility even if you do not have more power.

                      Hamed had more power than Loma.



                      Cheers,

                      Storm.

                       

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kid Blast View Post

                        That has the same ring to it as Wilder/AJ. I will be ready to bet if Loma fights Mikey and I mean BET.
                        LOL...I'm certain Joshua dumps Wilder....never said that about Garcia beating Lomachenko....but I may see it that way when they fight but now I'm on the fence...

                        No Ted, our bet is Joshua-Wilder. But you're getting rubber legged and wanna back it up with Loma....because you know you're gonna lose. Smart on your part - but it won't work..LOL Obviously you're more confident in Loma beating Mikey...and I would be too because that's very plausible. However, Wilder beating Joshua is you hoping for a lottery punch before he gets slept.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GlovedFist View Post

                          LOL...I'm certain Joshua dumps Wilder....never said that about Garcia beating Lomachenko....but I may see it that way when they fight but now I'm on the fence...

                          No Ted, our bet is Joshua-Wilder. But you're getting rubber legged and wanna back it up with Loma....because you know you're gonna lose. Smart on your part - but it won't work..LOL Obviously you're more confident in Loma beating Mikey...and I would be too because that's very plausible. However, Wilder beating Joshua is you hoping for a lottery punch before he gets slept.
                          Arggh eragh

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kid Blast View Post

                            Arggh eragh
                            Loma = A side
                            Mikey = A- side

                            AJ = A side
                            Wilder = B+ side

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                            • #15
                              I'm starting to wonder where Prograis fits into the junior middleweights? I know I've criticized him before for being a mere strongman but it appears this kid can be potentially dangerous to anybody...too bad Crawford left the division. Mikey vs Crawford would be interesting. Garcia is very "deceptively" good. (Interested to see if Loma can be as dominant at 140)
                              Last edited by brownsugar1; 03-11-2018, 02:18 AM.

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