• “I would like to see everyones top 5 “pound 4 pound” list, my list is as follows:

    1.1a. Floyd Mayweather, 1b. Andre Ward.
    2. Sergio Martinez.
    3. Nonito Donaire.
    4. Wladimir Klitschko.
    5. Manny Pacquiao.

    –Shoulder Roll Defense has Ward right there with Mayweather