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    Guerrero Pounds Out Win Over Berto, Wants Mayweather Next




    ONTARIO, CA-Behind a well-planned attack, Robert “The Ghost” Guerrero pounded the body and floored Andre Berto twice in winning by a wide unanimous decision on Saturday. Next up is Floyd Mayweather if further plans proceed as expected.

    “Nobody at 147 pounds can hurt Robert “The Ghost” Guerrero. Nobody,” said Richard Schaefer, CEO for Golden Boy Promotions, which promoted the fight. “Whoever doesn’t have Guerrero in the top five pound for pound list has something wrong.”

    Guerrero (31-1-1, 18 Kos) proved his capabilities early on as a welterweight; the beefed up former featherweight looked bigger, taller and stronger in defeating former welterweight world champion Berto (28-2, 22 Kos) before 4,865 fans at the Citizens Business Bank Arena.

    The WBC interim titleholder took some shots but proved he was the stronger man against the determined Berto.

    Knockdowns in the first two rounds by Guerrero may have startled the crowd and surprised Berto, but from there on the Florida fighter bore down and never quit trying to send the Northern California prizefighter into slumber land.

    After a few slow minutes in round one Berto connected with a right hand and quickly Guerrero opened up with his own left cross. Berto’s blow seemed to anger Guerrero who then attacked and fired three successive lefts while Berto held on to his right arm. Down went Berto from the blows in staggering fashion as the crowd roared at the surprise knockdown. It was always assumed that Berto was the stronger puncher, not Guerrero, who began his career as a junior featherweight.
    “I can punch,” said Guerrero. “And I can take a punch.”

    Guerrero dropped Berto again in round two with left hands as the Floridian attempted to hold. A swelling quickly developed on the right eye of Berto. Guerrero pounded Berto on the ropes excessively and refused to allow Berto to regain momentum.

    The fight stayed mainly inside with Berto intent on holding and hitting and Guerrero pounding the body. He never stopped pounding the body. The plan by Guerrero seemed clear that he planned to work Berto’s body. In rounds three through five he pounded away on the body with both lefts and rights every opportunity.
    “My plan was to fight on the inside,” said Guerrero. “I love it on the inside. I love to fight.”

    The fans could sense the glee in Guerrero’s attack and began to shout “Guer-re-ro! Guer-re-ro!”

    Berto finally saw his rights connect in round six as he caught Guerrero with some sizzling uppercuts and right counters. Guerrero didn’t seem fazed by the blows but they scored and probably gave Berto his first round on the judge’s cards.

    “He didn’t hurt me at all. He caught me with a few shots and punches hard, but I have a great chin,” said Guerrero.

    A perfect left uppercut by Guerrero hurt Berto in round seven who seemed surprised by the big blows. Guerrero walloped him with some more combinations and it looked bad for Berto. But the Floridian fought back with a vengeance. Both of his eyes were swollen from the hits he absorbed.

    Berto rallied in round nine with some vicious right uppercuts that found the mark on Guerrero’s chin and face. The Northern Californian’s right eye swelled from the shots but both of Berto’s eyes were swollen even worse. The crowd began to cheer “Guer-re-ro! Guer-re-ro!”

    With two swollen eyes Berto still tried to match Guerrero who continued to pound the body. Berto tried valiantly to land that one good right hand that could change the fight but never could land the punch to turn the fight around in his favor.

    In the final round both fought in their usual position along the ropes with Guerrero firing body shots like some kind of punching machine. Berto occasionally tried to flurry with some combinations but Guerrero would flurry with his own combinations. With 30 seconds left in the fight both began to fire killing blows with Guerrero getting the upper hand perhaps because he only had one eye closed instead of two like Berto. The bell rang but Guerrero continued to fire as the crowd roared and made it impossible to hear the final bell. Four blows connected solidly on Berto’s chin, then, referee Lou Moret stopped the action through the loud cheers. It was finally over.

    “I told Andre I was going to beat him down. I had to keep my word,” said Guerrero. “I had to fight him in the inside and work the body. We were on the inside and I was pushing him on the inside to land my punches.”

    All three judges scored it identically 116-110 for Guerrero who retains the WBC interim welterweight.

    “I came back after 14 months and fought Robert Guerrero. At the end of the day he fought a great fight,” said Berto.

    Is Floyd Mayweather next on the list for Guerrero who is recognized as one of the top fighters pound for pound?

    Richard Schaefer, CEO for Golden Boy Promotions, said he will be working on making a Guerrero versus Mayweather fight.

    “I don’t know how Floyd Mayweather can hurt Guerrero,” said Schaefer immediately after the fight. “Guerrero hurt a natural welterweight.”

    Guerrero agrees that Mayweather cannot hurt him and feels he will dethrone the current pound for pound champion.

    “I feel I can’t be beat. I’m unstoppable,” said Guerrero during the post fight conference. “I’m here, let’s do this Floyd.”

    Other bouts

    Florida’s Keith Thurman (19-0, 18 Kos) floored former world champion Carlos Quintana (29-4, 23 Kos) with a left hook to the liver in the first round. It was all downhill from there for Thurman who chased the Puerto Rican for three more rounds and finally ended the fight with a barrage of brutal blows. Quintana refused to quit and kept firing but seemed out on his feet. Finally, referee Jack Reiss jumped in to end the fight at 2:19 of round four.

    “I give myself a B-plus,” said Thurman, who grabs the NABO junior middleweight title with the win. “He had heart.”

    Quintana said that he is retiring after the loss, but credited Thurman for his talent.

    “He’s a strong fighter. He has a good future ahead of him,” said Quintana of Thurman.

    Coachella’s Randy “El Matador” Caballero (17-0, 9 Kos) pounded out a third round technical knockout victory at the end of round three against Mexico’s iron chinned Rigoberto Casillas (8-9-1, 6 Kos). Caballero was pounding out combinations throughout the first two rounds including a right uppercut that stunned Casillas. In the third round a seven-punch combination wobbled Casillas but he refused to go down. Both exchanged freely but it was Caballero doing much more damage. At the end of the round referee Jack Reiss brought in the ringside physician who conferred with Casilla’s corner and the fight was stopped for a technical knockout win by Caballero.

    Houston’s undefeated Jermell Charlo (19-0, 10 Kos) beat Escondido’s Dashon “Flyboy” Johnson by unanimous decision after 10 rounds of a junior middleweight bout. Charlo was busier throughout the fight with his straight punches through Johnson’s high guard. Every so often Johnson would erupt with a barrage of punches but it wasn’t enough to win the rounds. The judges scored it 100-89, 99-90, 98-91 for Charlo. There were no knockdowns.

    Former Olympian Dominic Breazeale (2-0, 2 Kos) started slowly against Tennessee’s Michael Bissett (1-1) who landed some good blows early, but that just seemed to wake up the bigger Breazeale. A four-punch combination sent Bissett down midway through the first round. Then another right cross connected to floor Bissett again. Round two saw Bissett look to kill or be killed instead of running. But Breazeale was too accurate and quick and floored the Tennessean twice in round two right rights. Referee David Denkin stopped the contest at 1:17 of round two.

    Manny “Chato” Robles (3-0, 2 Kos), a sharp punching featherweight from Paramount, stunned Missael Martinez (0-7) of Los Angeles with a counter right in the opening round. Then a flurry of 30 blows ensued snapping Martinez’s head back and forcing referee Jack Reiss to stop the fight at 2:15 of round two.

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    I mell Joe Watson's Funk here!

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    Agreed, SCLA Ali. The ref should be kicked to the curve and forced to retired from refereeing like the power that be did Joe Cortez. The old doc couldn't move around fast enough to see a lot of the dirty tricks of the Cali Ghost. But that is how a ghost suppose to roll. Berto's corner is at fault. They should've raised sand to the commissioner sitting at ringside letting syet pass him by.

    It is just like anything. To get attention and justice, you have to bytch sing. After the bout is finished and done, it's often too late. But Team roids -- I mean Berto -- should file a protest. They just may get another date. Holla!

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    Guerrero is tough no doubt, he has the physical tools to beat mayweather but he'll have to utilize a different strategy. Mayweather loves it when opponents pressure him on the ropes. If Guerrero uses lateral movement, angles, and his left mayweather is going to have a big challenge. And Guerrero has a lot of stamina so he could get away with smothering mayweather probably. Idk we'd have to see. I think he beats pacquiao though

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    As I had repeatedly mentioned the ghost would whoop berto with no problem...

    if only the ghost was NOT trying to prove a point and just fought at mid range he would have had berto out of there in 4 rounds. truth..

    however, the ghost wanted to prove the POINT that HE was tough enough and strong enough to push a true ww around and man handle him.

    this was the worst ref i have ever seen in my life what was he even doing in that ring?

    the ghost DID earn a shot at floyd, but all of you haters need to realize that styles make fights and the ghost wont be fighting floyd the same way

    as he fought berto.

    the ghost not only applies his skills but also his IQ, as does floyd, although berto is far from a smart boxer...

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    Ah yes Radam, catchweights. The road to fame for pacquiao, dehydrating your opponents and implementing stipulations in the contract that limit rehydration on fight night causing his opponents to be stationery, weak, and slow. Beating dehydrated champions and former greats doesn't make you the king pin had welterweight! Catchweight coward pacquiao tried doing the same to marquez last time around and he looked befuddled. Pacquiao couldn't keep up his assault last fight against bradley and missed a lot of his punches, he had to steal rounds, he hasn't had a knockout in the last 3 years against an unconfident, badly coached, dehydrated cotto. I am no hater, I am just calling it as it is, pacquiao was a beast up until a couple years ago, he looked great against stationery opponents who gave him little lateral movement. His physicality and athleticism are what made him good, not boxing skills. At this stage mayweather would pick him apart, 3 years ago because of mayweather's stationery philly shell defense it would be a very tough fight. PACQUIAO iS A HYPE JOB AT WELTERWEIGHT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY NO ELSE SEES THAT. WHO DID HE BEAT AT WELTERWEIGHT THAT WASN'T PAST THEIR PRIME OR AT A CATCH WEIGHT? Ricky Hatton? Lol. Clottey who statyed in defensive shell? A Plaster less margacheato? And no Guerrero isn't the latest threat at welterweight, when he was supposed to fight mayweather a year or so ago a lot of writers and fighters were saying he would give mayweather trouble. And rumor has it that he hurt pacquiao when they sparred. Pacquiao is lucky to be #4 on espn's p4p rankings

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    Radam making fighters come to catch weights and not allowing them to fully rehydrate over night is cheap and cowardly. Yes it happens, but pacquiao has gained his fradulent fame from it. And you failed to address the fact that DLH and mosley were past their prime. Use all the fancy you lingo want but the fact of the matter is now that pacquiao does not have negotiating power cuz he is slowing down he can't demand fighters to fight at inconvenient weights. Freddie Roach says Mayweather is trying to control by implementing random drug testing, pacquiao and arum did the same thing with these bogus catchweights. He won't fight a dangerous fighter unless they come down in weight, and brandon rios as next possible opponent? The guy is a perfect stationery opponent for him. Yes when asked about fighting sergio, roach responded unenthusiastically we'll fight him at 147. Pssshhhh of course have sergio try to rehydrate with an iv overnight like oscar. Sergio said he's willing to fight him at 150. Hmmm he fought margacheato at 150 for the 154 title, why not sergio? Oh yeah that's right cuz sergio is a legitimate threat, he moves laterally, is fast, great left hand, and will prob knock out pacquiao. Margarito was a fraud without plaster but he appeared to be a tough opponent to the general public because he could still walk through punches, but in reality that's it because lost his punching power. Pacquiao turned down yuri foreman before he fought margacheato, who is 5'11, same height has margacheato. Pacquiao said "he's too tall" hmmmm or maybe he just is an above average fighter who has good foot work and movement, it would be a difficult task for me. Yes I know about fighters coming in down in weight for big pay days whether they are 100% or not they still fight to get paid. Beating washed out and drained fighters one after another doesnt make you the best, it just makes you rich but it'll bite you in the end. Like you said there are several divisions, either fight at the weight or move down. And yes you have been wrong about your predictions, most of them being roach fighters. You're the biased hater drinking the pacquiao and roach kool aid. At least mayweather fought and beat to game fighters in his last two fights without making them cut off their arms. Can't say the same about manny. You can write all the forums you want but clearly you're biased in favor of team roach
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    I didn't mention chad dawson because it was his choice to go down to 168 from the get go! Andre Ward didn't demand him to come down to 168, Dawson initially agreed to it. And if they fight at LH it'll be a similar outcome. Yes a lot of fighters work out, sit in the sauna, etc to make weight but guess what they are allowed to fully rehydrate to their normal weight whatever it is. Sometimes they put on 10-15 lbs over night having a size advantage, but that's the hurt business radam right? And it can be very difficult to make it but than you throw a catch weight on top of it, making your opponent come down more. And further it's bs when your opponent isn't allowed to fully rehydrate over night or they come down to a weight they haven't fought at in over 7 years. Making your opponent come down in weight is one thing but making them come down further and unable to fully rehydrate is bs. Yes radam contracts are made for money and in the process of writing them is negotiations, pacquiao's opponents were stupid to agreeing to those terms but I guarantee you if he fights Cotto again at 154 not 150, Cotto dominates. Oh btw I'm glad you brought up Ray Robinson, however you failed to mention that when he challenged Lamotta for the first time he gave up 13 lbs and when he challenged Joey Maxim for lh title he gave up 16 lbs! Catch weights weren't used back then, the best fought the best and no bs about making them come to a catch weight. Sh*t if sugar would have made maxim come to a catchweight maxim might have passed out before the ref did on that 103. Fighting the best at their best, regardless of weight; that is the hurt business. I single out pacquiao because he was ranked #1 and #2 recently for the last couple of years for beating compromised opposition. I'd a lot better job convincing people than you, my english is decent who knows what you are saying. And if I were a hater of pacquiao I'd be on the steroid bandwagon but I'm not. I just call how I see it. Go brush up on your history

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    Can I request this ref for the next Wlad fight? If people are allowed to punch out of clinches with Wlad we would see a whole different fight. If anyone dares to punch Wlad once he grabs them they get a warning from the ref! This fight and Khan-Peterson show that if the ref decides not to break the clinches an aggressive mauling fight can upset the smoothest of boxers. If only Hatton-PBF had been ref'd this way!!

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    Broner could not win against Guerrero . G already called him out to his face and Broner shut up.

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