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    James Toney Returns May 13th

    This week, a small press release came out announcing a card in Michigan with 48 year old James Toney headlining in a heavyweight contest. Yes that James Toney who sadly is still apparently fighting.

    His opponent is Mike Sheppard who is a midwest club fighter with a professional record of 24-20-2 with 10 KO's and has been stopped on 15 occasions.

    This is a side of the sport that is often hard to watch. Toney has 682 rounds under his belt and has taken a lot of punches. His speech has noticeably become slurred and in no way should he be given a license to box. I am hopeful that the Michigan commission puts a halt to this event but unfortunately see a good chance this event go through with Toney's name driving ticket sales and profit to the event handlers.

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    Re: James Toney Returns May 13th

    Yes, on one hand it seems James should not be allowed to fight.

    There is a good case for that.

    But, then on the other hand . . .


    There is the fact that . . .

    No way should he be given a license to box.


    Also, (especially to Toney) means . . .

    No way should James be allowed to earn a living, feed his family, and given a license to box.



    It’s not like James can fall back on a career in law like Marco Antonio Barerra did.

    Sure, some calls to prevent James from fighting on may (claim to) have his best interests at heart.

    But, let’s face it, not like they’re prepared to divert the same effort/energy into a trutst fund that will meaningfully keep James and his family’s head above water; in the same way a cheque for delivered services will.

    And that’s what James needs.



    At the end of the day . . . .

    It’s James’ decision as to whether he wants to continue in the sport, earn money, and put food on the table.

    And, as long as he passes the medicals, then I guess it’s fair he fights on, earns a living from doing it, and supports his family.



    Also, it’s not like he’s going to do too much additional damage to himself fighting the guys he fights; like Sheppard.

    Plus, Toney has served the sport well enough and is more of a legend than some others out there whom are showered in praise . . .

    So I say (whilst I share your concern for his health) let him do what he wants and let’s not take his ability to earn a living from him.




    I wonder what the odds are on Sheppard winning/losing?





    Cheers,

    Storm.








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    Re: James Toney Returns May 13th

    Quote Originally Posted by oubobcat View Post
    This week, a small press release came out announcing a card in Michigan with 48 year old James Toney headlining in a heavyweight contest. Yes that James Toney who sadly is still apparently fighting.

    His opponent is Mike Sheppard who is a midwest club fighter with a professional record of 24-20-2 with 10 KO's and has been stopped on 15 occasions.

    This is a side of the sport that is often hard to watch. Toney has 682 rounds under his belt and has taken a lot of punches. His speech has noticeably become slurred and in no way should he be given a license to box. I am hopeful that the Michigan commission puts a halt to this event but unfortunately see a good chance this event go through with Toney's name driving ticket sales and profit to the event handlers.
    Old boy also has 682 debts up in his face. And Uncle Sam doesn't rest for the tired and broke. He let the late, great "Brownbomber"Joe Louis be buried in the U.S. national cemetery in Washington D.C. But old Bytch-arse Uncle Sam didn't forgive the Brownbomber for those taxes.

    Uncle Sam probably has flown up to those Pearly Gates asking to be paid in full. The archangel Mikal be chasing greedy-arse Uncle Sam off by blowing a 1,001 trumpets.

    If JT hit one of those Yank lottos, he will hang those gloves up, paid Uncle Sam, and tell all of us to puck [sic] off. Hehe! Holla!

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    Re: James Toney Returns May 13th

    Sheppard, who will fight anyone anywhere, is no world beater and at 24-20-2 is also coming off a stoppage loss to 7-0 Sergey Kuzmin in Russia, In fact, the West Virginia fighter has suffered 10 stoppages in his 20 defeats thus providing some clue as to why he has been selected as Toney’s opponent. Among his conquerors have been Antonio Tarver, Brian Minto, Ruslan Chagaev, Denis Boytsov, and many other notables. His last noteworthy win was a redemptive one against China “The Dragon” Smith who was on a comeback after being away for 11 –yes– 11 years and had beaten Mike in the course of his dubious 3-fight comeback.

    Sheppard has been defeated and pretty much KOd every time he has stepped up in class. However, though he is fighting a one-time living legend, it might not be quite accurate to say he is stepping up this time..

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    Re: James Toney Returns May 13th

    Roy Jones Jr is still around but is closer to 50 than 40. Hopkins is gone; he tempted fate once too often. Now, a bloated Toney, who once possessed rare boxing skills while fighting at middleweight, super-middleweight and cruiserweight, and a Ring IQ that was off the charts, fights ignominiously for a title that was once held by Audley Harrison and “The Dutch Sonny Liston” Richel Hersisia!

    James has never been stopped and hopefully that won’t happen here. The Hopkins slaughter was bad enough and Roy—well it doesn’t seem to bother Roy.

    Boxing stories seldom have a happy ending. This one has the potential for one. We can only hope,

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    Re: James Toney Returns May 13th

    I actually saw Sheppard fight on a card in Cleveland many years ago against Nicolai Firtha. He gave Firtha a good scrap and that was a fun club level heavyweight brawl. Sheppard is a tough guy who will come forward with little defense. Actually, the fight with Toney is probably very evenly matched given where both are in their careers. Sad to say for Toney who was in with many great fighters in the past that he is now in a pick em heavyweight fight with a veteran of the club fighting circuit.

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    Re: James Toney Returns May 13th

    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Blast View Post
    Roy Jones Jr is still around but is closer to 50 than 40. Hopkins is gone; he tempted fate once too often. Now, a bloated Toney, who once possessed rare boxing skills while fighting at middleweight, super-middleweight and cruiserweight, and a Ring IQ that was off the charts, fights ignominiously for a title that was once held by Audley Harrison and “The Dutch Sonny Liston” Richel Hersisia!

    James has never been stopped and hopefully that won’t happen here. The Hopkins slaughter was bad enough and Roy—well it doesn’t seem to bother Roy.

    Boxing stories seldom have a happy ending. This one has the potential for one. We can only hope,
    B-Hop is not finished with scrapping. His aim is to win going out of the game. He will fight in an easy breezy, ger a win than call it a career. The pugvine is buzzing with B-Hop doing it again. Old guy has too much pride to go out with a loss. Holla!
    Last edited by Radam G; 04-17-2017 at 07:44 PM.

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    Re: James Toney Returns May 13th

    Stop this. It's awful to watch these greats stumble around the ring. SAD

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