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    I'm biased in favor of Tyson the way many are biased toward Mayweather or Pacquiao, so there's no balance on the issue with me. I see the world through Tyson at his peak was among the best ever lens. Hell, I can convince myself through merely the power of nostalgia that Tyson could recapture the lineal title at 50, provided Klitschko is out of the picture. Those here that lived through the Tyson age, in those pre-Internet and cellphone days, remember the unbridled electricity of a Tyson fight. Especially when you compare it to the heavyweight landscape of the last decade or so (I'm a fan of the Klitschkos, and hold them in much higher regard than most, but there's no comparison to their eras; Tyson's was singular, one of a kind).

    As an aside, it's amazing that after Tyson obliterated Spinks, Lennox Lewis won Olympic Gold in Seoul just a couple months later. Man, one sparring session I wish had been recorded was Tyson - Lewis in the Catskills.

    I'm all in on Tyson - Toney. Like a gruesome motorcycle wreck, you just can't help but look.

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    I'm biased in favor of Tyson the way many are biased toward Mayweather or Pacquiao, so there's no balance on the issue with me. I see the world through Tyson at his peak was among the best ever lens. Hell, I can convince myself through merely the power of nostalgia that Tyson could recapture the lineal title at 50, provided Klitschko is out of the picture. Those here that lived through the Tyson age, in those pre-Internet and cellphone days, remember the unbridled electricity of a Tyson fight. Especially when you compare it to the heavyweight landscape of the last decade or so (I'm a fan of the Klitschkos, and hold them in much higher regard than most, but there's no comparison to their eras; Tyson's was singular, one of a kind).

    As an aside, it's amazing that after Tyson obliterated Spinks, Lennox Lewis won Olympic Gold in Seoul just a couple months later. Man, one sparring session I wish had been recorded was Tyson - Lewis in the Catskills.

    I'm all in on Tyson - Toney. Like a gruesome motorcycle wreck, you just can't help but look.

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    I am with you Domenic and in a day in age where Bhop had a title at 49 it is not far fetched to have older fighters carry some hype and intrigue.

    I am a huge Toney fan, he had ridiculous skills, but I am concerned for his well being and his mind having permanent damage.

    This is what I propose. Tyson fight Roy Jones Jr. Mike from what I last saw is a lot lighter weight wise, he has been a vegan for years and is faded enough to where he will not destroy anyone with a single shot. Those explosive actions are long gone.

    Stick him in there with Jones who himself has to be around 185-190 lbs.

    Give us a solid undercard and put it on PPV for 30$.

    Guaranteed more action than Floyd anti fighting Pac

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    I am with you Domenic and in a day in age where Bhop had a title at 49 it is not far fetched to have older fighters carry some hype and intrigue.

    I am a huge Toney fan, he had ridiculous skills, but I am concerned for his well being and his mind having permanent damage.

    This is what I propose. Tyson fight Roy Jones Jr. Mike from what I last saw is a lot lighter weight wise, he has been a vegan for years and is faded enough to where he will not destroy anyone with a single shot. Those explosive actions are long gone.

    Stick him in there with Jones who himself has to be around 185-190 lbs.

    Give us a solid undercard and put it on PPV for 30$.

    Guaranteed more action than Floyd anti fighting Pac

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    The rumor has been squashed. iron Mike is finished with scrapping in dat squared jungle. He is now a promoter and movie actor. Holla!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amayseng View Post
    I am with you Domenic and in a day in age where Bhop had a title at 49 it is not far fetched to have older fighters carry some hype and intrigue.

    I am a huge Toney fan, he had ridiculous skills, but I am concerned for his well being and his mind having permanent damage.

    This is what I propose. Tyson fight Roy Jones Jr. Mike from what I last saw is a lot lighter weight wise, he has been a vegan for years and is faded enough to where he will not destroy anyone with a single shot. Those explosive actions are long gone.

    Stick him in there with Jones who himself has to be around 185-190 lbs.

    Give us a solid undercard and put it on PPV for 30$.

    Guaranteed more action than Floyd anti fighting Pac
    No doubt and good call. Evidently Tyson returning has been put to bed though. Probably a good thing, but was a compelling thought for a minute. James Toney really should no longer be licensed. I don't even know if Margaret Goodman is around anymore, but if he were in her jurisdiction, he'd have no shot of fighting. He's in the same boat as Terry Norris and Meldrick Taylor at this point. Here's a recent interview (starts at 1:45).

    http://youtu.be/Gdh2sadyjh0

    Thats 30 years of boxing and sparring wars. He's a no-brainer HoF guy. When the definitive book is written on this era, the 90's through 2010, they'll be a chapter devoted to James Toney. It's not good to see him this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormcentre View Post
    Not true.

    You could subtitle Toney like they did here when he went off about Rampage Jackson.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxAe...eature=related

    That said, they probably couldn't subtitle him live to all audiences and also those and ringside though; so you're unconditionally right.

    Seriously though, (and sadly; for James and Mike) everything you have said there is probably true.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Toney fight Tyson though.

    Probably wouldn't be too good for Mike though.

    Yeah ... I even cringed when I wrote that, probably a lot more than Eddie Murphy did when he made that tasteless crack about "water head" babies. We knew it was wrong on so many levels but no one in the theatre could stop laughing.

    I think the version of Toney who gave Sam Peters such a hard time, could deal with the post Lennox Lewis, and Kevin McBride version of Mike Tyson.

    But like Mort said, Toney may be the more damaged of the two.
    At least Mike was able to deliver those live stage performances which were universally praised.
    Who knows???? For the over-the-hill crew, timing is everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic View Post
    No doubt and good call. Evidently Tyson returning has been put to bed though. Probably a good thing, but was a compelling thought for a minute. James Toney really should no longer be licensed. I don't even know if Margaret Goodman is around anymore, but if he were in her jurisdiction, he'd have no shot of fighting. He's in the same boat as Terry Norris and Meldrick Taylor at this point. Here's a recent interview (starts at 1:45).

    http://youtu.be/Gdh2sadyjh0

    Thats 30 years of boxing and sparring wars. He's a no-brainer HoF guy. When the definitive book is written on this era, the 90's through 2010, they'll be a chapter devoted to James Toney. It's not good to see him this way.
    That video of James talking made my stomach drop I am not kidding.

    Hate to see any former athlete in that condition. Man was James a phenom. Is there anyone out there more comfortable in the pocket rolling and sliding shots? He was more relaxed in that shell Defense than anyone I can remember. He had the fluidity of Pep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brownsugar View Post
    Yeah ... I even cringed when I wrote that, probably a lot more than Eddie Murphy did when he made that tasteless crack about "water head" babies. We knew it was wrong on so many levels but no one in the theatre could stop laughing.

    I think the version of Toney who gave Sam Peters such a hard time, could deal with the post Lennox Lewis, and Kevin McBride version of Mike Tyson.

    But like Mort said, Toney may be the more damaged of the two.
    At least Mike was able to deliver those live stage performances which were universally praised.
    Who knows???? For the over-the-hill crew, timing is everything.
    Look, all things considered, guys like Mike probably can always punch.

    I think if he caught James coming in he might wobble him; a bit.

    That said, Toney has copped some awfully big shots before - from Peters too - and remained relatively unhurt and undeterred (for boxing).

    James - whom is always in, at least, 10 round shape; as far as his slow paced (but acceptable, given how long Toney has been at it) version of it is concerned . . . .

    Would know Mike was only dangerous for the first 4 rounds, at best; as (give/take a few rounds) that was when he was most dangerous even when he was young and in shape.

    The second link we posted related to James being subtitled is hilarious; even though it shouldn't be.

    He (and Mike) will always be the big dawg of the boxing scene as far as I am concerned.

    Not surprised to see the fight evaporated into thin air.

    Ah, well at least it made it into an article and thread.


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    On another note I have just been told that Cotto vs. Alvarez is a done deal.

    Let’s see where that goes.

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