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    Re: Al Bernstein says Keith Thurman is the future of the welterweight division, and more

    A-Bern is really impressed with K-Thur.and I would like to see him dance with the Cali Ghost Robert Guerrero. I think it be a pretty good scrap. Holla!

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    Guerrero would be a great match. I just don't know how interested the Guerrero camp would be in that fight. And when I say interested, I mean they may want a lot of money, probably too much, for that fight to even be considered.

    I think Thurman gets Maidana in 2015. First, I think we see Thurman in the ring with someone like Roberto Garcia later this year. Then he aims for something bigger and Maidana ends up being the opponent. I will even make a prediction that this lands on the Mayweather undercard in May. Think about it...Thurman is an upcoming star and the public knows Maidana now form his two fights with Mayweather (general sports public). It would help sell the PPV and be the big fight that Thurman needs to capitulate into star status.

    Both Thurman and Maidana have shown they are willing to step in the ring with anyone. They will not price themselves out of challenging fights like some others in this sport do. The fight is makeable and makes sense for both men at this stage of their careers. The ultimate crossroads fight where the winner is in position for bigger things and the loser takes a step backwards. But the reward is great and for Thurman could mean a Mayweather fight. And for Maidana a win puts him also in a great position and a loss well he always has the Mattyhsse fight to fall back on. This is a fight I'd love to see along with I am sure most fight fans out there and I do expect to happen in 2015.

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    Re: Al Bernstein says Keith Thurman is the future of the welterweight division, and more

    Keith Thurman would be a great opponent for any top fighter in the welterweight division. He's a very highly skilled, powerful and extremely hungry fighter.

    The only thing he isn't, is tested.

    Until he is, he's not the future of anything, just another contender, albeit an impressive one.

    I for one hope he takes on Porter, in Porter's attempt to regain his former status as the juggernaut of the division. I hope he faces off against Brook one day too- they're both young and inhabit the same division for the foreseeable future, so it should happen one day.

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    Re: Al Bernstein says Keith Thurman is the future of the welterweight division, and more

    Keith Thurman is going to dominate the welterweight division. I agree with you Al, 100 percent. Thurman is a supreme knockout artist and he just needs that one big name, that one big fight to catapult his career. Thurman shouldn't waste his time on Guerrero, l think Amir Khan then eventually Kell Brook, would be a wise move. Another factor in Thurman's favor- he is easy on the eyes, an eloquent speaker and confident, he has it all, boxing's next superstar!

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    Re: Al Bernstein says Keith Thurman is the future of the welterweight division, and more

    I like Thurman. He comes to fight. KT needs to be more active though. He needs 3 fights a year. It's not his fault though.

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    Re: Al Bernstein says Keith Thurman is the future of the welterweight division, and more

    Quote Originally Posted by thegreyman View Post
    Keith Thurman would be a great opponent for any top fighter in the welterweight division. He's a very highly skilled, powerful and extremely hungry fighter.

    The only thing he isn't, is tested.

    Until he is, he's not the future of anything, just another contender, albeit an impressive one.

    I for one hope he takes on Porter, in Porter's attempt to regain his former status as the juggernaut of the division. I hope he faces off against Brook one day too- they're both young and inhabit the same division for the foreseeable future, so it should happen one day.
    Good comment.

    You know, it's funny how boxing works. You could easily replace "Thurman" with "Golovkin" in your post and you would essentially have the same thing.

    He knocks people out in spectacular fashion, no one really wants to face him.

    You can actually make a case that he's beaten better guys than Golovkin, arguably. Their resumes are at least comparable.

    He doesn't get the same love for whatever reason.

    He whooped Chaves who's now facing Tim Bradley and what people are calling a great fight.

    Funny how things work.

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    Re: Al Bernstein says Keith Thurman is the future of the welterweight division, and more

    Quote Originally Posted by The Shadow View Post
    Good comment.

    You know, it's funny how boxing works. You could easily replace "Thurman" with "Golovkin" in your post and you would essentially have the same thing.

    He knocks people out in spectacular fashion, no one really wants to face him.

    You can actually make a case that he's beaten better guys than Golovkin, arguably. Their resumes are at least comparable.

    He doesn't get the same love for whatever reason.

    He whooped Chaves who's now facing Tim Bradley and what people are calling a great fight.

    Funny how things work.
    Maybe it's activity. Since 2013 Thurman has fought 4 times. Since 2013 GGG has fought 7 times.

    Thurman comes to fight and gets his opponents out of there but it's not in the same manner GGG does it.

    I like Thurman a lot but his advisor didn't do him any favors by matching him with 2 duds out of those 4 fights: Jan Zaveck , which went the full 12 , and a shot Julio Diaz.

    Next fight scheduled is a guy most Americans never heard of. A guy that never fought in America. A guy with only 11 knockouts on his ledger. An Italian boxer ,40 years old, no name necessary, because no one knows him anyway.

    TsAH has Khan , Alexander, Porter,Malignaggi, Guerrero and Maidana so maybe he can make a match for Thurman down the line.

    Maybe Thurman can get on HBO and get some good matches.

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    Re: Al Bernstein says Keith Thurman is the future of the welterweight division, and more

    Comparing GGG with Thurman is dubious at best. GGG is a solid world champion, the king of his division in all but title - If the "champ" won't get in the ring then today as in the days of Henry Armstrong, that's just what it is. Gennady has extensive amateur experience, if you watch the amateurs closely then you will have heard of Golovkin on his way up. He isn't some no skill banger, he's got skills in abundance and he just keeps showing people but yet the doubters still throw question marks at him in defiance... When he becomes the undisputed 160 and then 168 people will still call him a hype job with no resume... But Adrien Broner is a legit 3 time world champion...


    I agree Deep i'm incredibly frustrated by Al Haymon's match making. These guys are milking the fans for their love of boxing and as a result their pockets. It's extortion truth be told and there's nothing that can be done. In my opinion Thurman has the skill, power and fortitude to beat Mayweather. He will hold the WBC 147 title at some point but the clocks ticking and there are a multitude of hungry fighters around.

    On the one hand we have the likes of the Bobfather hoarding fighters and blocking others out, making the fights that benefit him the most, and then we have the Haymonites who are this strange new breed. Where have all those people who loved the sport disappeared to? The fans should have a stronger voice in bringing the fights they want to see together, unfortunately commissions, promoters, agents, and all the sanctioning bodies don't listen, they're too busy counting their notes with their greasy palms.

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