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    Andre Ward's Lawsuit Against Goossen Dismissed

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    August 20, 2014 - Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Holly Kendig issued a ruling yesterday dismissing Andre Ward’s latest attempt to terminate his contract with promoter Dan Goossen. The Court ruled that Ward had not stated any basis upon which to invalidate the contract.
    Ward had contended that his contract with Goossen violated California Labor Code Section 2588. The Court further noted that the California State Athletic Commission had already ruled against Ward in two separate arbitrations pertaining to the contract.
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    Re: Andre Ward's Lawsuit Against Goossen Dismissed

    Boom.

    Andre ,train hard, get into the ring,keep winning ,finish the contract and take it from there. Hopefully GTP will drop the defamation suit and everyone will get down to business. Please fire and disassociate yourself from the people that gave you the advice to sue.

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    Re: Andre Ward's Lawsuit Against Goossen Dismissed

    Quote Originally Posted by deepwater2 View Post
    Boom.

    Andre ,train hard, get into the ring,keep winning ,finish the contract and take it from there. Hopefully GTP will drop the defamation suit and everyone will get down to business. Please fire and disassociate yourself from the people that gave you the advice to sue.
    The Goossen's lawsuit will also be dismissed. Look like we are back where we started. Holla!

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    Re: Andre Ward's Lawsuit Against Goossen Dismissed

    Things that make you go hmmm.

    I has previously ( http://www.thesweetscience.com/forum...ll=1#post61424 ) stated such might occur.

    The right thing for GTP to do now, is to withdraw the 10M writ; although such an option (itself) could be used as a bargaining tool to ensure Andre behaves as expected.

    All these distractions (even aside from the judgment and how it means Ward must "work" with Dan) will not make it easier for Ward to perform and win; even if he is fed the "right" fights for the best "cost" in a timely manner.

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    Re: Andre Ward's Lawsuit Against Goossen Dismissed

    Will Goosen hold a grudge and strongarm Ward with poor fights and small paydays or will he let things go?

    I am asking?

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    Re: Andre Ward's Lawsuit Against Goossen Dismissed

    Tough call.

    From what I understand Dan has had his fair share of legal stouches and as such it (as far as Ward is concerned) could go either way.

    I think, Ward is just (perhaps justifiably) peeved off at how Dan (and many others) have shown how Labor code 2855 can be - at least perceivably - circumvented with separate contracts/agreements.

    Still the combined fact that they were separate and not entirely continuous shows Ward had the options of renegotiating his interests at those times; which - from my understanding - is one significant way the abovementioned Californian Labor code has been designed, so it empowers those that may not be (or feel as if they are) an authority to the contract.

    Put it this way, many promoters have the capability to (legally) flick the switch on a fighter's career whenever they want even if there are not these causes for animosity.

    Take a look at Top Rank's business model and fighter stable.

    Do you see any lack of potential options there for Bob if any single fighter starts to cause issues? And has he ever been without options and not made squillions?

    A common contractual approach (to assist with "flicking" the troublesome party or pushing them to breach contract should they become problematic and/or concerned with how much they're not making and where that's going) is designing contracts that don't necessarily guarantee the fighter PPV or network dates.

    This way, a promoter controls the fighter's status and (big time) income in the same manner that studios do to acting and musical performing artists that are not truly independent; like Mayweather is in boxing - which is one reason why he has remained undefeated for so long.

    Don King: let's not go there.

    You get the picture.

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    Re: Andre Ward's Lawsuit Against Goossen Dismissed

    This is yet another court loss for Ward. Its time for him to forget the legal wrangling going on here and get his focus back on fighting. He is wasting the prime of his career fighting in court rather than in the ring. Though he may dislike Goosen and the contract that he signed, he is doing himself much more disservice dragging this out like he is currently doing. Its time to focus on fighting in the ring and making something happen. He should go to everyone, including Goosen, and get that fight done in Denmark against Kessler to get back in the ring with an eye towards a huge fight in 2015 against Golovkin. If he wants to be a star in the ring, this is the time to do so and the fights are out there to make him a star.

    By the way, with his decisive victories thus far against Ward I will be moving Goosen into my pound for pound rankings.

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    Re: Andre Ward's Lawsuit Against Goossen Dismissed

    Andre who??? I remember somebody with a name like that being a boxer at one time. Wonder what happened to him? LOL!!

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    Re: Andre Ward's Lawsuit Against Goossen Dismissed

    Quote Originally Posted by michigan400 View Post
    Andre who??? I remember somebody with a name like that being a boxer at one time. Wonder what happened to him? LOL!!
    Oops! OMG! I too remember! Andre Berto is his name. He's fighting soon. Hehehe! Holla!

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    Re: Andre Ward's Lawsuit Against Goossen Dismissed

    Quote Originally Posted by Radam G View Post
    Oops! OMG! I too remember! Andre Berto is his name. He's fighting soon. Hehehe! Holla!
    As yes, Andre Berto is fighting again here soon. On Showtime nonetheless against Steve Upshaw Chambers. Its a classic Al Haymon premium cable fight and one that we are getting all too familiar with. Chambers has lost his last two fights when he finally stepped up in competition including a knock out loss in his last fight and can't punch worth anything. When is Stephen Espinoza going to say enough is enough with these matchups, time to start pitching them to Fox Sports.

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