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Thread: Have Fans Forgotten Yet That Manny Pacquiao Is Human?

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    Have Fans Forgotten Yet That Manny Pacquiao Is Human?




    He's a greater pound-for-pound fighter than Sugar Ray Robinson, Harry Greb and Henry Armstrong. He would've defeated Roberto Duran and both Benny and Sugar Ray Leonard. He'll win titles up to super-middleweight for a total of 10 weight divisions before he retires from boxing. He'll destroy Mayweather when they fight. He can't be hurt and can solve any fighter's boxing style. Those are just some of the things that were echoed by some fans and writers about superstar Manny Pacquiao over the last couple years before his last fight against Juan Manuel Marquez.
    Back then Pacquiao wasn't thought to be human.
    Now that welterweight title holders Floyd Mayweather 42-0 (26) and Manny Pacquiao 54-3-2 (38) have once again managed to side step each other, let the hype begin for their upcoming bouts with Miguel Cotto 37-2 (30) and Timothy Bradley 28-0 (12). If we know nothing else, we know that Mayweather-Pacquiao or Pacquiao-Mayweather if it ever happens, will undoubtedly be realized long after the sell-by date.
    By the time Mayweather meets Cotto on May 5th, the anticipation for the fight will be at a crescendo. You can bet everything you own that Mayweather's WWE style of promoting a fight will be in full bloom. Add to that Floyd's willingness to assume the role of the villain, something he does remarkably well, boxing fans will be chomping at the bit to buy the fight with the hope of seeing Cotto separate Floyd from his senses. (Note: Lotierzo filed this before Mayweather's Lin Tweet) Aside from that there's not much intrigue to the fight. It doesn't take someone with a high boxing acumen to grasp that Mayweather is the fresher fighter who also holds the style advantage.
    Mayweather will beat Cotto conclusively and then try to convince the boxing world that he's the greatest pound-for-pound boxer in history because of it, despite it being five years after the time when it would've really meant something. Everyone knows that the Mayweather MO never changes. Pick a name fighter to fight after he's been beaten and on the decline, and brag about the feat as if it's Randy Turpin upsetting Sugar Ray Robinson afterwards.
    However, the story around Manny Pacquiao as he approaches the Bradley fight on June 9th is much different. Remember when Pacquiao was thought of as being one of the greatest pound-for-pound fighters in history after he took apart a game Miguel Cotto in 2009? Pacquiao looked so good that night it was scary. Then he fought Joshua Clottey, who after two rounds decided that he'd rather lose every round and claim a moral victory in going the distance, than fight to win and chance getting embarrassed. After Clottey he fought a rusty and ponderous Antonio Margarito at a catchweight, and aside from being hurt once during the bout, he won going away. After Margarito, he sparred Shane Mosley for 12 rounds, who looked as if he knew his skills had been long gone and just wanted to keep his record alive of having never been stopped in his career. Yet, even against a complicit Mosley, Pacquiao didn't look spectacular.
    In his last fight against Juan Manuel Marquez, Manny was constantly a step behind and looked as if he saw a style in Marquez that he'd never seen before, despite sharing the same ring with him for 24 rounds over two fights between 2004 and 2008. After the Marquez bout, there were several fan polls taken in which an overwhelming majority of those who saw the fight thought Pacquiao lost.
    Prior to Marquez III, Pacquiao got the benefit of every doubt in a hypothetical fight against other past all-time greats that he was matched with. It's always been crazy to think Manny was the equal of Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard, but it went beyond that. Some ill souls even suggested that he was equal to or better than Sugar Ray Robinson and Harry Greb. Then he fought Marquez this past November and those type of conversations seemed to disappear.
    Interesting.
    So the question now is: Has enough time passed for passionate boxing fans to have forgotten that he's human?
    As of February 2012, Manny doesn't even get the benefit of the doubt against Mayweather in a hypothetical fight, let alone Duran and Leonard. In all honesty, Manny's persona as being this supernova flashing across the galaxy isn't what it was a year ago. There used to be talk of him winning titles up to super-middleweight without losing more than a round or two along the way. Now he's fighting Timothy Bradley and he's not even considered a mortal lock in that fight. Granted, Bradley's an undefeated highly skilled junior welterweight, but to be given a chance against Pacquiao, where'd that come from?
    Perhaps it came from fans and media overreacting to one fight or showing, something that I too may have been a victim of for a brief spell. Then again I never went past thinking that he was perhaps Mayweather's equal, but never beyond that. Never for a fleeting moment did I see him in the league with the former greats mentioned above.
    Pacquiao is now in a no win situation.
    If he doesn't take Bradley apart and beat him decisively, some will begin to question if Pacquiao ever was nearly as great as he was perceived to be, and how Mayweather messed up and waited too long to fight him. On the other hand, if he destroys Bradley, it'll be said after the fight that other than beating Devon Alexander, Bradley wasn't such a world beater either.
    It's amazing how one fight or game can rightly or wrongly change the perception of an athlete or team. Two weeks before the NFL playoffs began, the New York Giants (7-6) lost a home game 23-10 to the Washington Redskins (4-9). Who in the world would've taken a bet that the Giants would win the NFC East after that, let alone not lose another game the rest of the year and go onto win the Super Bowl? That would be nobody including the biggest Giants homer in the world.
    Prior to fighting Marquez last November, many fans viewed Pacquiao as unbeatable. Since winning a gift decision over him last November, those same fans can easily envision him having his hands full with Timothy Bradley. That is unless they've already forgot that he's human.

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    Re: Have Fans Forgotten Yet That Manny Pacquiao Is Human?

    This is a very good article. We as fans can easily manipulate ourselves. Boxing is a very difficult and physically debilitating sport. Pac may have slipped a bit or just became bored. Roache has made numerous comments that floyd is the best fight for manny not only because it is the biggest challenge but because it has the highest motivation for manny personally.

    btw, not buying either ppv....

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    No! Nobody has forgotten that he is human. But he's super one, not a regular one, the-run-of-the-mill one or a weak-minded one who believes media manipulation, and bullsh*tology.

    Almost every great fighter had someone that was a kryptonite carrier. Double fudging crybaby-arse Marquez is apparently Da Manny's one. Just as Gene Tunney was da big K for Jack Dempsey. Kenny Norton was da kryptonite for GOAT Muhammad Ali, Iran Barkley was da big K for Tommy "Hitman" Hearns. Etc., Etc. There is a long trail of greats who couldn't do holy spit -- and the word that rhymes with spit -- about the kryptonite carrying pesty fighters.

    Now Sugar Ray Robinson was smart and didn't have an obvious kryptonite carrier, because he ducked where it was -- on the "Black Murder Row" of Middleweights of his era. But he made a mistake and went up to light heavyweight acting all bad with drinking cow blood and syet, and the kryptonite of Joey Maxim was waiting to make that sweet-as-sugar arse passout. Hehehehe!

    Now Money May is archtype of the Sugarman. But give Money May BIG CREDIt, though. He has and will probably forever duck his obvious "A-side Meth" -- I mean kryptonite carrier -- because he will go NOWHERE NEAR the one-man Pinoy Murder Row.

    As for Tim Bradley, he has no kryptonite, just a blasting dome that Da Manny will easily be able to solve. Da Manny is gonna kayo dat ______! Bradley is going to fight like mutli animals, and everyone of those animals are gone to get their arse slaughtered in dat square jungle. Being from the jungle of the P-Islands, Da Manny knows how to handle every kryptoniteless, bytch animal in the kingdom. Holla!
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    If u think Marquez has Pac number just think if he fought Mayweather three times...especially when he was using his legs and throwing combinations like he was at 130 Pac would have never reached the level he is at today.

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    I think this article would reflect much more on Pacquiao's personal life. Recently there has been some news that he has publicly denounced his womanizing and gambling. I know this doesn't have much to do with boxing, but definitely outlines the humanity topic much more than inside the ring. No one is unbeatable in the ring. No one, and yes that includes Floyd Mayweather Jr himself.

    In boxing terms, I thinnk Pacquiao is simply at a point in his career where he has nothing left to prove. After destroying competition with the Morales, and Barreras alike and then moving to the Welterweight realm to kill competition once more says that he has nothing left to prove. Floyd Mayweather Jr? The fight that everybody wants to see is the one people would remember most. However, even if he loses that fight (If it ever gets made) it will not diminish any of his great achievements.

    About Tim Bradley, he's very underrated. If they both fight on the inside I think he can give problems to the Filipino sensation (And I'm not talking about headbutts), but fighting on the distance Pacquiao will have no problem.

    And by the way Lotierzo, if you want to speak about Pacquiao being human why not choose a Juan Manuel Marquez photo instead of a Cotto one? XD!!!!!!!! That night Pacquiao was all but human, Hehehehehehehehehe!!

    Checkezzz!!!

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    Light-skinned SCLA Ali, the sun is bouncing off your skin and blinding your arse! Da Manny would KAYO Money May EARLY. And Money May knows it. He just hope that his fanfaronades and groupies as you keep living in a world of make-believe. The tooth fairy is still giving old-arse Uncle Roger money for Uncle Roger to keep putting his teeth under the pillow. Hehehehe! Some people just believe in anything and love fantasy and reality distortion instead of the reality of just doing da darn thang [sic]. Holla!
    Last edited by Radam G; 02-16-2012 at 04:49 PM.

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    There is no way shape or form that Manny would have beaten an in form Duran, Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Sugar Ray Robinson, or any of the like. Manny is a very good fighter who has hand picked his last 10 opponents. All of these guys except Margarito (who was all hype and loaded gloves) were way past their prime. I fully expect that Bradley will defeat Manny via a boxing lesson. If it ever and mean ever happens between Floyd and Manny expect Floyd to basically win by a 10-2 margin. Boxers beat punchers in 95% of the cases. Leonard beat Hearns; Hopkins beat Tito; and Robinson beat Jake La Motta 5 out of 6 times via boxing. It would be very interesting if this guy ever submits to Olympic style drug testing. He started off at 106lbs and now walks around at 162. Something seems weird.

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    Re: Have Fans Forgotten Yet That Manny Pacquiao Is Human?

    What's up TSS? It's been a minute
    Or should I say forever! I'm back once again!

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    Naku! Yall suckas bettah recognize! It is #1PacFan's TIME! Heeeeeeeeeeeee's BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKK! Holla!

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    What's up RG! Still spitting those rhymes and preaching the truth about Congressman PAC? I still can't believe how many people still believe it was a close fight. I had the fight scored the same as Lederman once again lmao. Look at the stats in all categories including post fight appearances. Look! It's plain and simple you have to beat the CHAMP decisively to win a decision and Marquez didnt do that.

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