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    Top 10 Juicers of All Time

    Keep in mind, steroids are relatively new so the names are fighters from the modern era.

    In no particular order:

    - Shane Mosley
    - James Toney
    - Roy Jones
    - Lamont Peterson
    - Fernando Vargas
    - Andre Berto
    - Orlando Salido
    - Antonio Tarver
    - Evander Holyfield
    - Ricardo Mayorga

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    Re: Top 10 Juicers of All Time

    I don't recall my boy, Holyfield or Roy Jones getting pinched ...were they part of the Balco scandal?

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    Hehehehehehehehehehe! JSTYWK, The Shadow, juicing, rubbing and shooting dat syet have been going on for a bit and some moons. The late, great, GTOAT Angie Dundee forced commissions to test every European fighters for that jive before the GOAT Ali would dance with them.

    Holla @ the GOAT Ali's bout with Karl Mildenberger and listen to how the great, late GTHOAT Howard Cosell holla about stimulants. [Inside da game, one of the code words for roids and PEDs is "uppers." The other is "simulants." KM was known to use "dat s***" -- Pops Joy May's code word for roids and PEDs.]

    British Joe hamburger -- I mean Bugner -- Jean Pierre Coopman, Jurgen Blin and Brian London were all on dat syet.

    Juicers ain't new. And in the end, dey always get dey @$$es beat black and blue. It is skills that pays da bills.

    Nothing under the sun is new. Trainer Robert "Grandpa" Garcia is bytching because he feels that the powers that be are getting ready to give Alex Ariza a had time about sneaking trick-of-the-trade PEDs to Bam Bam Rios and Marcos Maidana.

    What Ariza was on the cheat with is "Epinephrine." Now you can use it for cuts. But Ariza was sneaking it into the bodies of the fighters by putting it on there tongues and inside the nose with Q-tips. Ratio use for that jive for cuts is 1000 to 1, but in Maidana and Rios it show up ____ to 1.

    Ariza tried to sneak that syet into Da Manny's system, but couldn't because the PacManites had a serious hard watch on peddling Alex. Dude is crazy for some glory.

    By the way, I will add some stealth juicers to your list starting with Juan Manuel Marquez, the great morpher into Hulkquez. Followed by Bruce Seldon, Frank Bruno, Donovan Ruddick and Colin Jones. Holla!
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    Re: Top 10 Juicers of All Time

    did Holyfield test positive or was he just on a "list''?

    jones only tested positive for ephedrine if i remember correctly. U could get that over the counter at gnc.

    Shane never tested positive for anything although he was part of the balco scandal. damn Shane. so he was

    on EPO.

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    OOPS! I musta' fo'got! The head stealth user is xylocaine-using Money May.

    Dude and his fighters will get popped, then the Nevada corrupted commission moves the goal post for them or let a quack excuse them out of being dirty-dirty times thirty because of a phantom medical condition of low T or need of high T. Hehehe!

    How corrupted is letting somebody be over by 30 times the amount? Or using a legal allowed [steroid] product at a waterdown ratio of 1000-to-1 to halt eye cuts from bleeding, but in your Hulkquez-Rios-and-Maidana system the _______ is as power as 25-to-1.

    Holla at a piece by Gabriel Montoya of MaxBoxing dot com to get gist of how I'm spilling the beans on these stealth juicers. Holla!

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    Re: Top 10 Juicers of All Time

    Good list. A couple more here too. Andrew Golota. His roid rage was on full display when he attacked Bowe's crotch. Tyson also said he had a back full of acne, could barely see skin up close. He also bit Po'hua that time on USA Tuesday Night Fights. His acne is everywhere for the Bowe rematch. Also Vinny Pazienza. My pisan was on the juice when he went up in weight and was full blown muscular/bloated. Tommy Morrison. The late Morrison admitted openly he used steroids and claimed for a while his 'false positive' HIV diagnosis was the result of his rampant steroid abuse. Jameel 'Big Time' McCline was a juicer. Holyfield was never caught but was part of BALCO. He had steroids shipped to his address under the name Evan Fields. All well documented. Definitely many many more too.

    ---Correction ... Holyfield wasn't part of BALCO but entities in Orlando and Alabama that distributed PEDs.
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    Re: Top 10 Juicers of All Time

    VITALI, admitted to using roids...................

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    Re: Top 10 Juicers of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic View Post
    Good list. A couple more here too. Andrew Golota. His roid rage was on full display when he attacked Bowe's crotch. Tyson also said he had a back full of acne, could barely see skin up close. He also bit Po'hua that time on USA Tuesday Night Fights. His acne is everywhere for the Bowe rematch. Also Vinny Pazienza. My pisan was on the juice when he went up in weight and was full blown muscular/bloated. Tommy Morrison. The late Morrison admitted openly he used steroids and claimed for a while his 'false positive' HIV diagnosis was the result of his rampant steroid abuse. Jameel 'Big Time' McCline was a juicer. Holyfield was never caught but was part of BALCO. He had steroids shipped to his address under the name Evan Fields. All well documented. Definitely many many more too.

    ---Correction ... Holyfield wasn't part of BALCO but entities in Orlando and Alabama that distributed PEDs.
    Tiger Woods is on that list as Holyfield was on . yea not a boxer but still part of the same list of allegations

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    Re: Top 10 Juicers of All Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Radam G View Post
    By the way, I will add some stealth juicers to your list starting with Juan Manuel Marquez, the great morpher into Hulkquez. Followed by Bruce Seldon, Frank Bruno, Donovan Ruddick and Colin Jones. Holla!
    LOL "stealth juicers."

    PEDs may have been around in some form or fashion but steroids and all that good, modern stuff is, well, modern. They probably juiced but none that were widely caught. Plus those guys sucked, they're not making my Top 10 hahaha! Gotta have quality!

    Also keep in mind, I wasn't talking those who were under suspicion -- we don't know that JMM juiced just like we didn't know whether Pac Man was -- or those that look like pretty obvious juicers, but those who were pretty much known to juice or got popped with steroids in their system.

    Yes, Amayseng, Shane Mosley was on a heavy duty PED cocktail. HE was on that US Postal/Discovery Channel type of sophisticated sh*t.

    Literally! Mosley was on the same type of combo that Lance Armstrong was on -- what he called high octane with HGH, EPO, cortisone -- AND steroids to boot.

    It's the same high-octane combo many specialists have suspected -- publicly and privately -- that Manny Pacquiao was on. VC has expressed that to yours truly himself. And he, after all, knows that combo as well as ANYONE.

    In the deposition, which can be found on Youtube, an embarrassed Shane Mosley acknowledges that he knowingly -- KNOWINGLY, nice guy, high integrity, good guy Shane, yup, that guy -- dabbled on a designer steroid as well as that EPO that makes mutherfockers race up the mountains of France and the hills of Italy.

    (Which kind of makes you wonder. Boxing is a small world where word travels fast, unbeknownst to the public. If a guy like Shane dibbled and dabbled in that stuff, who else might have been doing it?)

    As for Holyfield -- or should I say Evan Fields? -- he wasn't just on a list, he was part of a HGH network just like Domenic correctly points out.

    Holyfield seems like a cool cat outside the ring, but the reality is this: That guy is one of the biggest juicers ever. EVER!

    He's taken enough steroids to kill a blue whale. Dude's been juicing since the early '90s, guarantee you. His opponents in world title fights even knew it and I have that from first-hand sources.

    That whole holier-than-thou Holyfield, coming into the ring to gospel music....Don't buy it. Fields/Holyfield is one of the biggest cheaters of all time. He cheated vs. Tyson -- and not just with his head.

    That's why he balded, grew a big heart, grew a big head and stayed ripped to shreds into his 40's and 50's. On the flipside, his kock died, so he had to juice up on potency pills to stay virile!

    Clearly, Mr. Lover-Lover juice worked. Champ's got enough kids and baby mamas to line up a football team WITH special teams. They don't even need helmets, just use their hard skulls. Can't nobody stiff arm that Fields cranium.

    James Toney's lazy behind got popped twice. He's what they call a discount juicer. You know, one of those guys you see at your local gym that buy it from the buff dude in the locker room.

    No organized system, just some regular ol' roids. Probably in pill form, damaging his liver and stuff.

    As far as Roy Jones goes, he probably got popped buying some over-the-counter stuff. Nevertheless, he got popped "with that sh*t in 'im," as Roger Mayweather would say.

    In spite of how nice and sincere someone may seem, it is VERY, VERY easy for someone to justify taking performance enhancing drugs.

    I wouldn't put it past ANYBODY.
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    Re: Top 10 Juicers of All Time

    Radam, not too sure Bruno juiced. His stamina was terrible. And he's got those West African, fast-twitch, get-buff-from-stretching genes. DO you have it from good account that he dibbled and dabbled?

    One guy who's omitted, but justifiably so, is Vitali Klitschko. He did it in his amateur days but it was proven to be a mistake on his behalf, although he was expelled from the Olympic team as a result.

    The two brothers were supposed to win double Gold in the Atlanta games. Volod --- as Bernie Campbell calls him (LMFAO!) --- was starving down to 200 pounds.

    As soon as Big Vit, the rug-cutting kick boxer with the James Brown swiftness of foot (I've seen him do a James Brown/Marlon Jackson spin right before knocking somebody the F out, LOL), got booted, Wlad/Volod stuffed himself full of sauerkraut, wiener schnitzel and probably some Russian Vodka.

    Then went in there and narrowly jabbed his way to a gold medal, averaging an PUTRID seven points per fight, scoring no more than 10 points in a single bout.

    Just for context, Felix Savon won the final at heavyweight 20-2. #BOSS

    And yeah, Tommy Morrison was a juicer and Golota definitely looked like roid rage was in full force. That would explain some of his emotional breakdowns, for sure.

    Anyway, Ken Shamrock just did an awesome interview about how juicing works. Most guys are far off juice once they get close to the fight, reaping the benefits much, much earlier than the fight, sometimes even before training camp.

    That blood test on the day of the fight is just silly. Only an EXTREMELY bold juicer would dare attempt that.

    Shockingly, some still do. Which should tell you exactly what people in the inner circles think of those tests.

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