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Thread: YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

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    YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

    Did you all catch what was emblazoned on Floyd Mayweather's ballcap plopped on his head as he was waiting for the decision to be announced after he showed Canelo Alvarez that he is--join the club--not in the same league as a prizefighter as Floyd?
    "TBE."
    Stands for "The Best Ever."
    Mayweather has now and again offered this self-assessment, that he is THE BEST ever, slotted ahead of Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, all the usual pugilists who take residence on lists of the brightest lights to ever lace on the leather and horsehair mitts. But following his tutorial of Alvarez, who entered with a 42-0-1 mark, a few more naysayers, folks unwilling, unable or uninclined to tab Floyd as the best of the best, re-assessed.
    Current boxer, two-division champion and TV analyst Paul Malignaggi went public with his contention that Floyd is the all-time all-star. That means that in his mind, if we had a time machine, with all things being equal, Floyd would beat those Sugar Rays, and yes, handle Thomas Hearns, and Roberto Duran, and Shane Mosley at his tip top prime.
    "The people who say that Floyd isn't the best all-time, I bet most or all never took a single punch in the face," Malignaggi told me, after I asked for a bit more to clarify material in a Monday ESPNNewYork.com post. "When you do, especially when you do it for a living, you understand just how difficult it is to do what Floyd Mayweather does. No one in history would beat him, he's the greatest of all time, bar none."
    So, when the "haters" say that Mayweather ducked Antonio Margarito at his most fearsome, or Kostya Tszyu at his apex, and that he would have lost to them....?
    "He would have beat them," Malignaggi said. "Every generation has fights that don't happen, that includes Sugar Ray Robinson. No one should ever be penalized because they are in this era and not in the era of 50 years ago."
    Readers, weigh in, in Our Forum. Let's discuss. This is provocative stuff, but I think even if you don't agree, there is merit in the thesis, because Malignaggi is a damned fine ring general, and yes, does deserve extra attention being paid to his declaration, because he has and does toil in the arena. Is Floyd truly "TBE?" Has Mayweather convinced you? Moved a step closer to being No. 1, but isn't there yet? What would he have to do to get there? Your three cents, please.
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    Re: YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

    Best ever! Sugar ray was fast, but not a good defender. Hearnes could box and hit with power, but ran out of gas and had no legs. Duran was good at 140...could punch and hold a punch, but Sugar frustrtaed him the second time...just think what MM would have done. Can go on and on.

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    Re: YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

    YES! Money May is the best defense boxer EVER! Willie Pep is the best offensive boxer EVER! Holla!

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    Re: YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

    Absolutely NOT! -- and this current foot-licking craze of hero worship with such little historical perspective bugs me.

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    Re: YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

    Overall skill set, longevity at the highest level, offensive accuracy, defensive effectiveness, chin, & conditioning you gotta look at him as ONE of the best ever, I can't say he's the best because I'm not old enough to say I've saw any fights before the late 80's....

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    Re: YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

    Quote Originally Posted by Editor Mike View Post
    No one should ever be penalized because they are in this era and not in the era of 50 years ago."
    Sorry Paulie, but yes - live in the wrong era, and "if" will forever be attached to thy name.

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    Re: YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

    Mayweather is a fraud. If pay close attention, he only faces Mexicans, Latinos, Africans and the occasional African American. TALK ABOUT CHERRYPICKING!

    What a fraud!

    He hasn't faced a prime, ready, motivated Caucasian with punching power since Jerry Cooper. And that fight was clearly a FIX! Come on, it's IMPOSSIBLE to go down from a jab to the belly unless you do so willingly (and transactionally).

    Think about it! When was the last time he faced a hungry (but not too hungry -- he has to make weight safely), ready, primed white man who was poised to send his *** back to slavery.

    His dad fought one recently. We all saw the outcome. The same would happen to Jr. He would no longer be Joy Junior -- he would be Misery Mayweather.

    His worst fear is staring into the eyes of an opponent who 50 years ago would've lynched him.

    The infamous sparring session with the White Assassin Paul Spadafora only confirmed this nightmare.

    Let's keep it real. The guy is fooling you all right before your eyes for Christ's sakes!! He's avoiding white fighters like the plague. Everyone knows Black vs. White is the commercial wet dream.

    Fighting Spadafora would do 1.5-2 million buys with a finger snap.

    Then why is he avoiding it???? Instead he fights Mexicans who everyone knows can't fight for s***. The only quality one he fought was JMM and that was clearly a fix.

    Watch him fight a stud like Mikkel Kessler, GGG or Carl Froch. They won't really count because they're not American but it'd be a start!

    Floyd's a freakin' fraudulent fighter.

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    Re: YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

    He also avoids Cubans! Floyd walks around at 145-150, just like Nonito Donaire. This means he can easily go to featherweight and take on Da Jackal Rigondeaux -- a proficient scavenger who would surely prey on the rigor mortis that would be Floyd after the surgical elimination that would take place inside THAT SQUARED CIRCLE!!!!!!!!!

    He'll face any black man from any country but Cuba. Notice how they call themselves the Can Man because AfriCans, MexiCans Can get it (or something).

    HE's telling you the truth before your eyes! THEY ONLY FIGHT CANS -- especially tomato CANS.

    Notice there's no "CAN" in Cuban. He'd be the BAN Man -- because like Evan Fields, he wold be BANNED from competition due to sudden deterioration in skill. No commission would sanction him.

    "You're over the hill," they will say. "You lost to a bantamweight."

    But don't mistake exposé/revelation for deterioration!

    Once he becomes the BAN MAN or the 'Sian Man (Cauca-sian), then I will give him props. But surely the fraud will buy them off should he ever beat them....

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    Re: YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

    Can we judge Floyd on what he has done in the ring and not shoulda coulda woulda situations....

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    Re: YES OR NO? Floyd Mayweather Is THE BEST EVER

    Hold your horses, The Shadow! Those bytches are bucking you. And both the late, great John Arthur Johnson [boxing name Jack Johnson] and the late, great Walker (George) Smith [boxing name Sugar Ray Robinson] are turning in their graves about what you said about Money May being a "fraud." No WAY! No HOW! It is all about da hurt bitnezz prizefighting. And there are optical illusion everywhere. Straight-up magical jive. But once you know how the trick is done, you KNOW!

    Every great fighter -- black, white, Latino or Asian -- get down with the ducky duck and cherry picking. And those optical illusions to the know nothing eyes would may them "fraud[s]."

    More than a 100 years ago, after "Unforgivable Blackness" Jack Johnson chased around three-different reigning [white] heavyweight kings, and finally got the shot against Canadian Tommy Burns in Down Under, Ole Jackie Boy refused to give Black Canadian Sam Langford and black U.S. Southerner Joe Jeanette a shot because of their ethnicity and color.

    UB JJ, proudly announced that he was "drawing the colorline" against fighting blacks [and foreigners]." Holla at Youtube and get a peep and listen to UB JJ video biographies.

    And take Sugar Ray Robinson. He ducked the whole "Black Murder Row," and singled out mostly short-in-height Italian for his most famous beatdowns. He clearly noted that he didn't want to fight Coloreds "because ain't no [sic] money in fighting hard-headed ______. These dumb _____ will fight for you 10 penny [sic]."

    The Shadow, you are good at finding the truth, and the whole truth. So I know that you can find the above with no problem. Don't knock Money May. He's business first -- prizefighting biz. Not an iota of pridefighting. That pridefighting syet will betray you.

    Not too long ago, almost everybody and dey momma told Da Manny to double fudge Marquez and ride into the sunset of history having whupped his arse three times in actually -- two times officially and a bad-decision draw, because one judge didn't know how to flicking count knockdowns because the judge was on the take and fix.

    Double Money-Money May is super legit, because everyone in da game is full of syet. It comes with the territory. C.J. Roth is a fraudulent judge who fixes fights with her draw scoring to shake up the bets and give the down-low in da know da BIG-BETTING-MOOLAH WINS. Retired -- thank's to heaven -- Joe Cortez was a fraudulent "fair, but firm" referee because he'd fixed bouts with convenient stoppages while allegedly collecting betting money post fights.

    There are no conspiracies everywhere in boxing. There are just natural, designed-that-way optical illusions. Holla!

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