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The Fight Forum - The Sweet Science http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/ TSS.tv en Sat, 25 Mar 2017 23:42:49 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/images/misc/rss.png The Fight Forum - The Sweet Science http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/ The New Pound-for-Pound Rankings: A Comparison of Three Polls http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168315-The-New-Pound-for-Pound-Rankings-A-Comparison-of-Three-Polls&goto=newpost Thu, 23 Mar 2017 20:48:49 GMT Image: http://www.thesweetscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/skysports-andre-ward-ward-kovalev_3835975.jpg POUND-FOR-POUND TOP 10 -- In the... [img]http://www.thesweetscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/skysports-andre-ward-ward-kovalev_3835975.jpg[/img]

POUND-FOR-POUND TOP 10 -- In the last few days, three tribunals – The Ring, ESPN, and the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board – issued a new set of ratings. The consensus #1 pound-for-pound fighter heading into last weekend – Roman “Chocolatito” Gonzalez – dropped to #3, #4, and #5, depending upon the source.

Here are the three Top 10 lists, current as of March 23:


1. Andre Ward
2. Kovalev
3. GGG
4. Chocolatito
5. Crawford
6. Lomachenko
7. Rigondeaux
8. Canelo
9. Yamanaka
10. Inoue


1. GGG
2. Andre Ward
3. Lomachenko
4. Kovalev
5. Chocolatito
6. Crawford
7. Canelo
8. Pacquiao
9. Keith Thurman
10. Rigondeaux


1. Andre Ward
2. Kovalev
3. Chocolatito
4. Pacquiao
5. Crawford
6. GGG
7. Lomachenko
8. Inoue
9. Leo Santa Cruz
10. Yamanaka

The new consensus #1 is Andre Ward (pictured) who finished first in two of the polls and second in the other. Gennady “GGG” Golovkin topped the ESPN poll, notwithstanding the fact that panelist Teddy Atlas left him off altogether.

This wasn’t the first time that Atlas omitted GGG from his top 10. In an article first published on ESPN on Feb. 2, Atlas explained his reasoning: “I believe, relatively speaking, Golovkin is as physically strong and tough as anyone...But I also believe there are others with better technique. I also believe he may be slipping. I understand he might have been sick when he looked very ordinary at times against Kell Brook. But sick or not, his technical flaws were evident. Also, his level of competition has been questionable or at least very advantageous for him.”

Dan Rafael, the face of ESPN boxing, was the only ESPN panelist who kept Roman Gonzalez in the top spot. Rafael scored the fight between Gonzalez and Srisaket Sor Rungvisai 117-109 in favor of the Nicaraguan.

Check out more boxing news on video at The Boxing Channel. ]]>
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<![CDATA[Mayweather-McGregor Update: Notes From Today's NSAC Meeting]]> http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168311-Mayweather-McGregor-Update-Notes-From-Today-s-NSAC-Meeting&goto=newpost Thu, 23 Mar 2017 00:08:18 GMT The March meeting of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, held on Wednesday, March 22, had an eavesdropper. Conor McGregor monitored the proceedings... The March meeting of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, held on Wednesday, March 22, had an eavesdropper. Conor McGregor monitored the proceedings by telephone from his home in Dublin. He did not speak.

The most compelling item on the agenda concerned the fine leveled against McGregor for his antics at a pre-fight press conference at the MGM Grand in August of last year. During the confab, McGregor and his opponent, Nate Diaz, engaged in a profanity-laced exchange during which both threw projectiles, specifically unopened cans of an energy drink and plastic bottles of water. McGregor was fined $75,000 plus 50 hours of community service and ordered to produce an anti-bullying video at a cost of $75,000. His initial response was that he had no intention of complying. He has since had an about-face.

With the assistance of his Nevada attorney, Jennifer Goldstein, McGregor succeeded in having the penalty reduced to $25,000 and 25 hours of community service to be served in Dublin or elsewhere to be completed within the next six months. The community service, noted NSAC Director Bob Bennett, could take several forms. As an example, Bennett said that McGregor might “speak to kids at a gym about anti-bullying or doing the right thing in life.”

When McGregor satisfies this obligation, he will be eligible to apply for a Nevada boxing license.

NSAC Chairman Anthony A. Marnell III thought it prudent to re-visit the penalty and the rationale for reducing it. The reduction to the original assessment was hammered out between McGregor, his legal counsel, the aforementioned Bennett, and Nevada Deputy Attorney General Caroline Bateman, a liaison to the Athletic Commission.

Bennett noted that McGregor took full responsibility for his behavior, apologizing profusely. The reduced penalty, said Bennett, was in his view an appropriate discipline that would discourage future incidents. Commissioner Skip Avansino concurred, calling it “a fair and appropriate resolution for an unfortunate incident.”

Bennett has already acknowledged that the commission would be willing to sanction a Mayweather-McGregor fight. This would be consistent with the understanding that his agency has two functions – to regulate combat sports and to serve as an economic engine for the state of Nevada. However, one can sense that the commission is walking on eggshells, worried about the repercussions if the fight turns into something that smells of a con job. Back in 1995, the commission took a lot of heat for approving the Tyson-McNeeley fight. “Hurricane” Peter McNeeley had as much chance of defeating Mike Tyson as a carcass dredged up from the morgue.

Don’t look for Mayweather-McGregor to transpire in June. September is more realistic. -- AKL ]]>
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<![CDATA[Okay, so now who's the #1 pound-for-pound fighter?]]> http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168287-Okay-so-now-who-s-the-1-pound-for-pound-fighter&goto=newpost Sun, 19 Mar 2017 05:47:35 GMT Just asking. Just asking. ]]> The Sweet Science ArneK. http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168287-Okay-so-now-who-s-the-1-pound-for-pound-fighter Jacobs skips 2nd day weigh in. As planned for an advantage http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168282-Jacobs-skips-2nd-day-weigh-in-As-planned-for-an-advantage&goto=newpost Sat, 18 Mar 2017 22:19:03 GMT Dj skipped the weigh in this am so he can spitefully neglect the rules he previously agreed upon of not gaining more than 10 lbs 24 hrs after initial... Dj skipped the weigh in this am so he can spitefully neglect the rules he previously agreed upon of not gaining more than 10 lbs 24 hrs after initial weigh in.

Make no mistake about it dj and team planned this long ago expecting GGG to adhere to the rules to be at a disadvantage to Jacobs probably 185 lbs if not more Saturday night.

Very disappointed in dj. ]]>
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GGG, Mr. Excitement, Faces a Real Challenge in Daniel Jacobs http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168274-GGG-Mr-Excitement-Faces-a-Real-Challenge-in-Daniel-Jacobs&goto=newpost Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:06:55 GMT Image: http://www.thesweetscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Jacobs-Golovkin.png by David A. Avila In the middle of a Los Angeles area... [img]http://www.thesweetscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Jacobs-Golovkin.png[/img]

by David A. Avila

In the middle of a Los Angeles area arena parking lot Gennady “GGG” Golovkin stood flanked by dozens of fans signing autographs and posing for photos graciously and patiently.

Among those eagerly waiting their turn were African Americans, Latinos, Russians and others gathering around like a mini United Nations convention.

Though Golovkin hails from Kazakhstan, a country located above Iran and near Russia, the middleweight champion attracts fans of all races and nationalities.

The reason is simple: he’s Mr. Excitement.

Golovkin (36-0, 33 KOs) faces his stiffest test when he defends his middleweight titles against Brooklyn’s Daniel Jacobs (32-1, 29 KOs) on Saturday March 18, at Madison Square Garden in New York City. HBO pay-per-view will televise.

“It’s much more interesting because he is a champion,” said Golovkin. “He’s a true middleweight.”

One of the rarest achievements in prizefighting occurs when a boxer from another country attains fandom and adoration worldwide, not just his native country.

The last to achieve this in boxing was Philippine’s Manny Pacquiao who filled more than 40,000 seats in Dallas when he fought Antonio Margarito. Before Pacman, you have to go to Mike Tyson to find someone who could draw thousands of fans from another country.

One common factor is they constantly provide excitement with their ability to blow out opponents in convincing fashion.

Golovkin has steamrolled competition 23 consecutive times since 2008 when Amar Amari was able to remain standing and hear the final bell in an eight round fight. Can you imagine if it were 10 or 12 rounds?

Will Jacobs be number 24?

The Brooklyn middleweight known as “the Miracle Man” has his own knockout streak since suffering his only loss by knockout to Russia’s Dmitry Pirog in 2010. Jacobs has his own dirty dozen straight KO list.

Between the pair of middleweights 35 consecutive opponents have been rendered unconscious or unable to continue.

“Obviously Gennady has someone in front of him that he has a lot of respect for. Someone who can crack,” said trainer Abel Sanchez.

Back in October 2015, “Mr. Excitement” Golovkin last faced a similar dangerous middleweight in Canada’s David Lemieux. That ended in a knockout on the same Madison Square Garden boxing ring that this fight takes place.

“Madison Square Garden is my home,” says Golovkin, adding that he’s already fought there four times.

Expect the same knockout result. But who really knows who emerges victorious.

That’s the reason knockout punchers become favorites. They’re like human cherry bombs that can blow up things or blow up in your face. And when you put a pair of cherry bombs together anything can happen. One fuse can burn too quickly or another may have too long a fuse.

But everyone loves the sound of a cherry bomb going off and the anticipation.

No fear

Jacobs has already tasted defeat and more than that, he’s met death face to face and emerged intact.

The story of Jacobs and his bout with cancer is well known. Withstanding regular doses of chemotherapy is a test in itself. Once you’ve gotten a taste of your own mortality the fear factor has been eliminated. It’s gone. You know more than anybody else your life can end tomorrow or any second.

It’s why Jacobs has no fear of Golovkin.

“I wanted this fight,” said Jacobs while in Los Angeles. “He can be beat.”

Jacobs has no undefeated record to protect. In fact, he’s eliminated the Os of several undefeated opponents to get to this point. Now he’s after the biggest gun and the baddest of the undefeated in Golovkin.

Golovkin, like Jacobs, really has no fear.

“He’s dangerous for me,” said Golovkin of Jacobs. “He’s a great man and very good as a boxer.”

The fellow known as “Triple G” has built a wide fan following that crosses all continents with his willingness to face and fight anyone in the middleweight division. If they weigh 160 pounds then they are the enemy. It’s why fans from Mexico, Philippines, Japan, Australia and in the United Kingdom can be seen wearing baseball hats with “GGG” emblems.

Small children who might not be able to read can be seen walking the streets of Mexico City with “GGG” hats and t-shirts.

In Golovkin’s native Kazakhstan, he’s already reached legendary status.

People love to see a fighter with no fear because each of us has fear of losing our jobs, being unable to pay bills, or just getting beat down in life.

But when someone like Golovkin comes along, someone from humble beginnings like billions of others and just keeps knocking out the competition, the everyday man takes a liking to him. They all feel a part of him as if he actually fights for them.

Golovkin is Mr. Excitement.

Now, Golovkin has a willing and experienced partner on the big stage in Jacobs.

Last year, a long list of fighters claimed to want to meet Golovkin in the boxing ring including Saul Alvarez, Chris Eubank Jr., Billy Joe Saunders, and others. But only Kell Brook and Jacobs signed the dotted line on the contract.

“Both guys are going to get hit,” said Sanchez who’s trained Golovkin for nearly seven years. “Anything can happen. Jacobs is a good fighter.”

Jacobs has that coolness and confidence that comes from knowing he’s faced death and the reality of it.

“Triple G has been on my radar for about two years. I knew this opportunity would come,” said Jacobs. “He’s great at what he does, an extremely powerful fighter. But it takes a strong mind to defeat Gennady Golovkin and I believe I have that.”

Golovkin’s radar goes up when he hears things like that.

“It’s really interesting for me because he wants to fight me,” says Golovkin.

No fear means excitement.

Both believe in what they do.

Tecate offer

Tecate beer, one of the major sponsors, is offering rebates for the Golovkin-Jacobs fight. Here are the details: *When you buy two Tecate or Tecate Light 12-packs and send in your HBO PPV proof-of-purchase, you’ll receive $20 back. Or, when you buy one Tecate or Tecate Light 12-pack and send in your HBO PPV proof-of-purchase, you’ll receive $15 back.

Check out more boxing news on video at The Boxing Channel. ]]>
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IBF 130-pound champ Gervonta Davis Mourns the Violent Death of a Close Friend http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168268-IBF-130-pound-champ-Gervonta-Davis-Mourns-the-Violent-Death-of-a-Close-Friend&goto=newpost Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:59:14 GMT On Friday, March 17, Gervonta Davis took to twitter to express his grief over the death of his friend Montell "Telly" Pridgett. The 24-year-old Pridgett was shot to death at approximately 12:30 am Friday morning during a street altercation with an unknown assailant in the impoverished Upton neighborhood on the west side of Baltimore.

Pridgett trained at the Upton Boxing Club where Davis got his start. Reportedly 42-8 as an amateur, he was planning to turn pro this year on a show in Baltimore headlined by Davis who planned to fight before his hometown fans in his next fight after his May 20 bout in London versus Liam Walsh. Calvin Ford, the head boxing coach at Upton, said that Pridgett had the potential to go far.

The 22-year-old Davis, a protege of Floyd Mayweather, won his title in January at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, stealing the show with a dominant performance against Jose Pedraza. His bout with Walsh will be his first title defense. ]]>
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<![CDATA[Danny Jacobs Inspired for GGG by Nutritionist Chris Algieri’s Rocky Story]]> http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168242-Danny-Jacobs-Inspired-for-GGG-by-Nutritionist-Chris-Algieri’s-Rocky-Story&goto=newpost Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:08:07 GMT Image: http://B78B.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/JacobsAlgieri.jpg DANNY JACOBS INSPIRED BY ALGIERI -- If your name is... [img]http://B78B.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/JacobsAlgieri.jpg[/img] DANNY JACOBS INSPIRED BY ALGIERI -- If your name is "Miracle Man" Danny Jacobs and you’re fighting undefeated middleweight champ Gennady Golovkin at Madison Square Garden on HBO Pay-Per-View a week after seeing fellow Brooklynite Curtis Stevens knocked out cold in upstate New York by left hooker David Lemieux on HBO BAD, you might be looking for some extra inspiration. Something to believe in. Someone who believes in you.

Something out of a Rocky movie will do.

Cerebral Assassin Stevens ended up looking like Italian Stallion Rocky Balboa after Clubber Lang wiped the mat with him in their first big screen battle. Victim of a perfectly timed left hook, Stevens was down and out for several minutes while his visibly concerned mother (!) stood by at ringside. In 1982’s ROCKY III, Balboa’s beloved trainer Mickey expired in the dressing room as Rocky was counted out of time. Never one to be outdone in the miracle department, the aptly named "Miracle Man" has an ace up his sleeve for his big shot at Golovkin.

"You never want to see people you’ve known for a long time end up like that," said Jacobs of Stevens being laid out in three. "This is a reminder of how brutal boxing can be and it’s not a good feeling," admitted Jacobs. To that point, if Jacobs were to hear what some fans and media are saying about his*chances to upset Triple G on Saturday, you couldn’t blame the cancer survivor for being crestfallen.

"This is boxing," says Jacobs. "I know what can happen."

Fortunately for Jacobs, in his camp for this fight is a fellow New Yorker; former world champ Chris Algieri. In 2014, Algieri overcame two early knockdowns and a hideously swollen right eye to box his way to a twelve round decision victory over a marauding Ruslan Provodnikov at the Barclays in Brooklyn to win the WBO junior welterweight crown. Major media outlets called it the upset of the year. It was another glaring example of the fact that anything can happen in boxing, including unexpected upsets by undeterred underdogs.

Like Jacobs against Golovkin, few gave Algieri a chance to defeat the Siberian Rockywhen the pair met in the ring. "I told Chris what an inspiration it was for me to be there in Brooklyn when he captured that title," said Jacobs, himself a WBA champ. The dramatic overview photo of an overjoyed Algieri celebrating as new world champion with his "cut me Mick" eye injury is one sight Jacobs won’t ever forget.

"That’ll always be memorable," Jacobs said.

I asked Jacobs about his relationship with Algieri and about the encouragement he must draw from having such a proven warrior in his corner.* "It [Algieri-Provodnikov] was just like a Rocky movie, the perfect story for Chris; to see him get off the canvas, continue to fight, have that big swollen eye -- and still give it his all when most guys would’ve quit. Having a guy who hasthat experience and has captured his own championship memories like the memories I’m trying to create, it can only add inspiration," Jacobs told TSS during fight week.

I asked Algieri, who Jacobs calls the best nutritionist he’s ever had, about his role as motivational cook for avery hungry fighter. "It’s a similar situation to me [versus Provodnikov] with Danny as the underdog [versus Golovkin] and people all saying what they’re saying about what’s gonna happen. During my camp for the Provodnikov bout, we had no doubt about what was gonna happen. The momentum and positivity was way up and I was just ready to perform. I’m feeling that same way now being in Team Jacobs’ camp."

"Danny’s done the work. We know he’s prepared," concluded Algieri. "Chris believes one hundred percent in my ability to win and I’m one hundred percent prepared," said Jacobs.The Miracle Man has a strong self-belief and a Rocky-esque chef who believes in him. Danny Jacobs must now prove he can stand the intense heat inside Triple G’s KO kitchen. That’s a tall order for any middleweight.

Danny Jacobs believes he can deliver it on March 18.

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Jeffrey Freeman covers boxing in New England for The Sweet Science

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Mayweather-McGregor Appears Headed to the T-Mobile on June 10. What Will Tickets Cost? http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168223-Mayweather-McGregor-Appears-Headed-to-the-T-Mobile-on-June-10-What-Will-Tickets-Cost&goto=newpost Mon, 13 Mar 2017 15:19:51 GMT In a story that first appeared on the MMA site FloCombat, the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas has set aside the date of June 10 for a potential... In a story that first appeared on the MMA site FloCombat, the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas has set aside the date of June 10 for a potential Mayweather-McGregor fight.

A 20,000-seat arena, the T-Mobile sits behind New York-New York which sits directly across the street from the MGM Grand on the south end of the Las Vegas Strip. It is jointly owned by MGM Resorts International, which owns 10 Las Vegas Strip casino-hotels, and the Anschutz Entertainment Group which owns numerous venues across the globe including the Staples Center in Los Angeles and 02 Arena (formerly the Millennium Dome) in London. Mayweather has a longstanding relationship with the MGM Grand which has hosted his last 12 fights at the MGM Grand Garden.

An interesting question is what tickets will cost. Perhaps some perspective can be gleaned from the Canelo-Chavez Jr. fight at the T-Mobile on May 6.

On March 3, the promoter, Golden Boy, announced that the event was a sellout. But in the Orwellian world in which we now live, a sellout doesn't mean a sellout. What it means is that no tickets are currently available at face value, unless one happens to know someone who knows someone. On March 13, ten days after the fight was deemed a sellout, a leading online resale marketplace (in my lingo, a scalper) had 1,255 available tickets at prices ranging from $520 to $28,327 (bring a date, sit ringside, and that's $56,654). Keep in mind that these are the current asking prices and, if history is any guide, the prices will inevitably come down.

Canelo-Chavez Jr. will be available for closed-circuit viewing at the MGM Grand, and at their sister properties when this venue fills up. The closed-circuit price is $75 plus applicable fees, whatever that means. All seats are general admission.

So ......what will the "resale marketplace" ask for a Mayweather-McGregor ticket? And will you pay it? ]]>
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Ringside at Turning Stone: David Lemieux Capsizes Curtis Stevens http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168216-Ringside-at-Turning-Stone-David-Lemieux-Capsizes-Curtis-Stevens&goto=newpost Sun, 12 Mar 2017 12:55:50 GMT Image: http://B78B.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/Lemieux-Stevens-KO-GBP-Inst.jpg VERONA, NY -- In a shootout between two big... [img]http://B78B.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/Lemieux-Stevens-KO-GBP-Inst.jpg[/img] VERONA, NY -- In a shootout between two big punchers, David Lemieux scored an impressive one punch highlight reel knockout of Curtis Stevens in the third round of their scheduled twelve round middleweight fight in Verona, NY on Saturday night. As Stevens was throwing a left hook, Lemieux caught him with a debilitating left hook of his own that landed flush on the jaw of Stevens and had him out before he hit the canvas.

Medical personnel immediately attended to Stevens and placed him on a stretcher to be transported to a local hospital for observation. Stevens was conscious when being transported and his promoter, Kathy Duva, gave the crowd a thumbs up as he was being removed from the arena.

There was no feeling out process between Lemieux (37-3, 33 KOs) and Stevens (29-6, 21 KOs). The two were exchanging big punches within moments of the opening bell. Lemieux seemed to get Stevens attention about half way through the first with a hard right hand. But Stevens would find a home for some powerful rights of his own as the first round progressed. At the end of the round, a left hook by Lemieux had Stevens clearly hurt just before the bell sounded.

Lemieux came out fast to start the second to see if Stevens was still hurt. Lemieux was loading up on everything he threw as Stevens covered up. Eventually, Stevens started to counter some between the hard punches of Lemieux and had some success. Stevens also started working the left hook to Lemieux’s midsection and seemed to be slowing up Lemieux with that body work as the round moved forward.

Stevens started strong in the third working behind the jab. He would find a home for some powerful straight right hands that seemed to get the attention of Lemieux. However, just when Stevens seemed to be turning the tide, a left hook that he never saw coming put a swift and conclusive end to the fight.

The win puts Lemieux in line for bigger fights down the line. He called out both Gennady Golovkin and Saul “Canelo” Alvarez in the ring following the fight with Stevens. Though a rematch with Golovkin seems unlikely, there is at least a decent chance that a fight with Canelo may to come fruition at some point soon.

Yuriorkis Gamboa-Rene Alvarado

In the co-feature bout, Yuriorkis Gamboa scored a listless ten round unanimous decision against veteran journeyman Rene Alvarado in a lightweight contest. It was a bout that was void of action and had the crowd sounding their displeasure throughout.

This was Gamboa’s (26-1, 17 KOs) first fight under his new promotional contract with Golden Boy and was supposed to be a mere showcase to lead him to bigger fights down the line. However, Alvarado (24-8, 16 KOs) proved to be more a puzzle than anticipated for Gamboa. Alvarado refused to lead and with both fighters almost strictly looking to counter, little action was produced.

Gamboa controlled the little action there was in the first six rounds of the fight by simply moving his hands more than Alvarado and landing the catchier punches. Alvarado seemed to pick up a little momentum in the seventh when he briefly stunned Gamboa with a right hand.

Alvarado could not seize on the momentum from the seventh and was hurt himself by Gamboa in the ninth. In the tenth, Alvarado landed a glancing left to the head of Gamboa who was off balance and fell to the canvas. To Gamboa’s dismay, referee Benjy Esteves ruled it a knockdown. However, this would prove to be a moot point as Gamboa was already well ahead on all three judges cards.

Undercard Bouts

In a battle of undefeated super lightweight prospects, Yves Ulysse would score a TKO victory against Zachary Ochoa after Ochoa’s corner stopped the bout following round seven.

Ulysse (13-0, 9 KOs) was dominant throughout the contest. He routinely found a home for his power shots against an ever retreating Ochoa (16-1, 7 KOs) whose punches did not carry near the steam of Ulysse. In the seventh, Ulysse hurt Ochoa with a straight right hand and followed that up with a barrage of power shots that were frequently snapping the head back of Ochoa. Though he showed guts, Ochoa took a massive beating that round and his corner made the correct call in not letting him out for the eighth.

Diego De La Hoya (17-0, 9 KOs) scored a lopsided unanimous decision against Roberto Pucheta (10-10-1, 6 KOs) in a super bantamweight bout. De La Hoya dropped Pucheta in the first and went on to easily control every round in winning by margins of 80-71 on all three cards.

D’Mitrius Ballard (16-0, 12 KOs) knocked out veteran Zoltan Sera (26-11, 17 KOs) with a right hand to the temple in the fourth round of their light heavyweight contest in a bout that Ballard was in total control throughout.

Alex Rincon made a successful professional debut when he stopped Shaun Lee Henson (2-4, 2 KOs) in the second round with a left hook to the body in a super welterweight bout.

Damon Allen (11-0-1, 5 KOs) stopped Adam Mate (24-11, 17 KOs) in the second round of their lightweight contest. Allen put Mate on the canvas three times that round. Referee Benjy Esteves waived the contest off after the third knockdown.

In the opening bout, Todd Unthank-May (10-0-1, 4 KOs) fought to a split draw with Quinton Rankin (12-3-1, 9 KOs) in a competitive and entertaining light heavyweight contest.

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<![CDATA[Richard Schaefer's (and partners) World Boxing Super Series]]> http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168210-Richard-Schaefer-s-(and-partners)-World-Boxing-Super-Series&goto=newpost Sat, 11 Mar 2017 15:36:40 GMT I am curious to hear everyone's thoughts on Schaefer's proposed tournament with what he announced will be 50 million in prize money awarded.

The plan from what I understand is tournament style boxing with 8 fighters in two different weight classes. The concept seems a mix of the ESPN Boxcino Tournaments of the past as well as the Super Six Showtime Super Middleweight Tournament. The venues will be spread across the world and fights will take place within a few months of each other (similar to Boxcino and different from the Super Six in that regard).

Personally, I hope Schaefer pulls it off. Realistically with the kind of money he is talking, he should be able to attract elite level fighters to the competition. With a potential 10 million going to a tournament winner, who wouldn't be interested. Keep in mind for example both Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia made 2 million each for last week's Welterweight super fight.

But I am skeptical too. Schaefer is a banker of course and claims to have the funding. That is a lot of money for investors to pony up for a boxing tournament. But then again, Al Haymon did coax investors to invest a lot more in his PBC venture. So given Schaefer's background in the sport and world of finance, I am thinking he does have the financial backing in place.

If this does come together as currently planned, we could be getting some excellent high level fights. Plus, some potentially very good recognition for the sport. Good fights bring back the fans and get the general sports public back into the game. Tournaments can be hard to pull off as many variables can occur such as injuries or fighters badly missing weight. So this needs to be very carefully planned. With the money being offered as well as quick turnaround, I doubt we will see the issues with fighters pulling out that somewhat hampered the Super Six. I am excited and hopeful Schaefer pulls this off. ]]>
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Boxing Odds For This Weekend http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168202-Boxing-Odds-For-This-Weekend&goto=newpost Sat, 11 Mar 2017 00:17:03 GMT A few interesting tidbits on the odds on this weekend's fights courtesy of Bovada:

David Lemiuex (-400) Curtis Stevens (+300) - This seems right on the nose to me. Stevens has a punchers chance early and this fight could explode in the opening rounds. But Stevens, when pressed in fights, tends to go into a shell and can easily be outboxed (see Brinkley and Ndam fights). Lemieux also has more variation to this game. My wager on this would be on Lemiuex but if a round prop is offered would take a Stevens ko within 3 to hedge my bet.

Yuriorkis Gamboa (-2250) Rene Alvarado (+950) - This is where boxing betting can get very interesting. Do I think Gamboa is going to win? Yes and in fact very well could do so going away. But do I see a path to victory for Alvarado? Yes I see a possibility. Gamboa is coming off yet another long layoff. Inactivity has badly plagued his career. Gamboa has also had a tendency to fade in fights. Alvarado is a tough determined fighter whose athletic ability and skill set cannot come anywhere close to Gamboa's. But Alvarado is aggressive who will keep coming and often gets better as a fight goes on. He is a dogged body puncher and hopes to wear down his opponents during a fight. Could Gamboa be way ahead but a hard charging Alvarado come on late for a possible stoppage? Its possible. There is value on Alvarado but I wouldn't go crazy.

Demetrius Andrade (-1400) Jack Culcay (+700) - Andrade would be a much larger favorite if this fight were on neutral soil or in the states. Culcay has little chance unless he gets some serious hometown cooking if this goes to the cards.

Rico Ramos (-165) Erik Ruiz (+135) This is the type of fight and wagering in boxing that the sharps could be all over. Ramos is more of a name and thus been made a favorite. But should he be favored? I don't think so. Fans on the west coast as well as die hards know Erik Ruiz. He is a good underrated fighter who can handle non elite level fighters. Ramos is also on the downside of his career. Ruiz is getting better with more fights. I have my brother on stand by in Vegas if odds are posted on this fight and instructed to jump all over Ruiz.

Nikolai Potapov (-250) Antonio Nieves (+195) These odds are based off of Nieves recent performance in Rochester last year against a guy described as a journeyman. Well the opponent was better than a journeyman and Nieves learned a lot from that fight. The odds should be closer to -150 Potapov and +130 Nieves. I see a close fight that goes to the cards with the winner up in the air. As such, there is value on Nieves but I wouldn't go crazy as who knows what happens in a decision scenario. ]]>
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TSS Mainstay Bernard Fernandez Captures Three BWAA Writing Awards http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168179-TSS-Mainstay-Bernard-Fernandez-Captures-Three-BWAA-Writing-Awards&goto=newpost Wed, 08 Mar 2017 14:15:39 GMT Image: http://www.thesweetscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/bernard.jpg BERNIE AWARDS -- The Boxing Writers Association of America has... [img]http://www.thesweetscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/bernard.jpg[/img] BERNIE AWARDS -- The Boxing Writers Association of America has announced the winners of the 16th annual Bernie awards. The awards acknowledge outstanding writing in six categories.

The Sweet Science garnered two second place awards and a third place award, all thanks to Bernard Fernandez. A New Orleans native, Fernandez has covered the boxing beat for more than four decades. He retired from the Philadelphia Daily News in April of 2012 after a 28-year run with that newspaper.

The stories for which Fernandez was honored were published here on March 6, March 29, and Aug. 25. In chronological order they were:

Squatty and Inelegant, Khurtsidze Steals the Show” (second place in the category of Boxing Event Coverage).


Referee Mills Lane: Still Fighting at Age 78” (second place in the category of Boxing Feature under 1,500 words).


Rio Olympics Redux: When Will the Corruption End?” (third place in the category of Investigative Reporting).


In addition, TSS editor-in-chief Arne K. Lang received an honorable mention for his story “Herb ?Herbie Hoops’ Lambeck (1932-2015): Boxing’s Peerless Pricemaker.” The story ran on May 25.


Lang was in tough in the category “Boxing Feature over 1,500 Words.” Multi-decorated Thomas Hauser, a frequent TSS contributor, copped first place for “The Long, Sad Goodbye,” a previously unpublished essay that appeared in Hauser’s 2016 book “Muhammad Ali: A Tribute to the Greatest.” An excerpted version of the essay was published by the New York Times a week after Ali’s death.


The Bernie awards were named for Bernard Fernandez. A former five-time president of the Boxing Writers Association of America, Fernandez’s list of honors includes the 1998 Nat Fleischer Award for Excellence in Boxing Journalism.

Lest anyone think that it isn’t kosher for Fernandez to win an award named for himself, it should be noted that the judging is done on the blind, meaning that all bylines and other identifying marks, including the publication or web site for which the story was written, are omitted from the copies that the judges receive. The panel for the 2016 Bernie awards consisted of the following individuals:

TOMMY DEAS, Executive Sports Editor, Tuscaloosa News; President, Associated Press Sports Editors

TOM CUSHMAN, San Diego Union-Tribune (retired)

JIM JENKINS, Sacramento Bee (retired)

BRYCE MILLER, Sports Columnist, San Diego Union-Tribune

ED SCHUYLER, Jr., The Associated Press (retired)

RICK TELANDER, Sports Columnist, Chicago Sun-Times

The honorees will be acknowledged at the 91st renewal of the annual dinner of the Boxing Writers Association of America on March 16 at Capitale in New York City. The Sweet Science extends congratulations to all the winners. For a complete list, visit the organization’s web site at www.bwaa.org.

Pictured: Our very own Bernard Fernandez (far right) with Bernard Hopkins. ]]>
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Tyson Fury Plans to Return on May 13: Who Should He Fight? http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168168-Tyson-Fury-Plans-to-Return-on-May-13-Who-Should-He-Fight&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Mar 2017 23:11:59 GMT Tyson Fury has announced via social media that he plans to return to the ring on May 13. If true (and Fury's pronouncements often prove untrue), this suggests that he will be added to Frank Warren's May 13 bill in Leeds where the main event finds local featherweight Josh Warrington opposing former IBF 122-pound champion Kiko Martinez of Spain.

The six-foot-nine Fury, who turns 29 in August, will never have a well-sculpted physique, but recent pictures of him show a man with a lot of flab around his belly. If he fights on May 13, he will be coming off a 17 1/2 month layoff. He was the lineal heavyweight champion before relinquishing his belts to deal with personal issues.

As for possible opponents, there is no indication where he is headed. He once called out Deontay Wilder and Wilder's docket is open, but it would seem logical that Fury would go the tune-up route against a fringe contender before taking on someone of Wilder's stature. His 22-year-old nephew Hughie Fury opposes WBO heavyweight titlist Joseph Parker in Auckland on May 6. ]]>
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Dawson-Fonfara - Why is Dawson Such a Big Underdog? http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168149-Dawson-Fonfara-Why-is-Dawson-Such-a-Big-Underdog&goto=newpost Sat, 04 Mar 2017 15:15:27 GMT I am doing my check of odds this morning and see that Chad Dawson is listed near a 3-1 underdog against Andrzej Fonfara this evening on the undercard... I am doing my check of odds this morning and see that Chad Dawson is listed near a 3-1 underdog against Andrzej Fonfara this evening on the undercard of Thurman-Garcia.

Generally I scan lines looking for value. But the value on this line is unreal. Dawson looked in tremendous shape at the weigh in and some of his recent performances have been due to his condition not being anywhere near where it should. Dawson knows his career is on the line and a win sets him up for potential bigger payday down the line.

But here is why I especially like Dawson tonight. I think Fonfara is shopworn. Remember in October of 2016, he had a brutal back and forth war with Nathan Cleverly. Before that, he had a tough fight with Chavez Jr. And going back on his history, he had a slew of tough fights in the past. Plus, he is now coming off a devastating knockout loss to Joe Smith in which his whiskers, always questionable, betrayed him big time.

Off of a knockout loss and brutal war, Fonfara now steps in with and in shape and very motivated Chad Dawson. I think the odds frankly should be flip flopped. ]]>
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Could Breazeale hang with Wilder? http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168097-Could-Breazeale-hang-with-Wilder&goto=newpost Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:56:21 GMT Well, they've set up the feud-angle post-fight. Prior to Saturday, I would have said Breazeale gets killed by Dontay and still believe that Wilder probably finishes off anybody that he drops, but Breazeale is a big dude with no apparent quit and a pretty good punch. Wilder continues to be...Wilder...no evidence that he's getting any better. If Breazeale is still standing and coming forward after five rounds, I think Wilder has got a fight on his hands. (Might actually be an easier fight to promote than the Parker fight.) ]]> The Sweet Science vjoe http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168097-Could-Breazeale-hang-with-Wilder Wilder vs. WashingtonL What did we learn? http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168082-Wilder-vs-WashingtonL-What-did-we-learn&goto=newpost Sun, 26 Feb 2017 03:39:06 GMT My first takeaway: Wilder has a puncher's chance against anyone. However, if Klitschko were fighting Wilder next instead of Anthony Joshua, my money would be on Wladimir. ]]> The Sweet Science ArneK. http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168082-Wilder-vs-WashingtonL-What-did-we-learn Fighting McGregor Just Another Easy Step to Immortality for Mayweather http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168073-Fighting-McGregor-Just-Another-Easy-Step-to-Immortality-for-Mayweather&goto=newpost Fri, 24 Feb 2017 23:46:01 GMT [img]http://B78B.http.cdn.softlayer.net/00B78B/thesweetscience/images/floydbelts.jpg[/img] --Fighting McGregor - Has any fighter’s road to boxing immortality been easier or come with more surefire wins than Floyd Mayweather’s? Floyd just turned 40 years old. He is officially retired but there can be no doubt that he will be seen in a boxing ring sometime this year, against a man who is an elite combat sport participant but has never once fought as a professional boxer. The money is too good for Conor McGregor and Mayweather to pass it up and the challenge for Mayweather is too easy for Mayweather to decline.

Depending on your age and when you started following boxing, your opinion varies on what you think of Floyd as a fighter. If you were born after say 1982, you most likely started following boxing around 1997, a year after Mayweather made his pro debut. And by the time you were in your mid-twenties, Mayweather was one of the most elite fighters in boxing. Since beating a shopworn and rusty Oscar De La Hoya in 2007, Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao have been the two biggest box office draws in boxing, with Mayweather eventually eclipsing Pacquiao. Today Mayweather is undefeated (49-0, 25 KOs) and arguing his place among the all-time pound for pound greats with fans that never saw the greats circa 1967-2007, is like arguing politics. In other words it’s a waste of time because the opinions are so far apart.

Instead of going there I’ll just say if Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns fought every opponent Mayweather did on the night that he fought them - all three would be 49-0 with more than 25 knockouts. Just as if Sonny Liston fought every opponent Rocky Marciano did on the night Rocky fought them - Sonny would also be 49-0 with one or two more than the 43 knockouts Marciano recorded.

Most fans who have been around and have seen the greats circa 1967-2007 see Mayweather as a fighter whose undefeated record is due more to brilliant management and matchmaking than to his ability as a fighter. More succinctly put, Mayweather picked his spots. I can name past greats between 1967-2007 who were faster and smarter and more skilled than Mayweather, and if you were around then and saw them - you already know their names. However, if you’re 35 years old or younger, there’s nothing anyone can say that’ll convince you there was one, let alone a dozen, fighters greater than Floyd who were active between 1967 and 2007.

Early in Mayweather’s career, going back to when he was a prospect, he challenged himself more as a fighter. However, the more he learned about marketing and the more established he became, the less he challenged himself and the more confident he became about promoting himself as an all-timer. Floyd grasped somewhere around 2005 or 2006 that, as long as he could remain undefeated and played the bad guy character, the more the interest there would be in seeing him fight and hopefully lose.*Since barely beating De La Hoya in 2007, Mayweather has fought 11 times, but only three opponents – Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, and Canelo Alvarez -- went into the ring with slightly more than a snowball’s chance.

Mosley was coming off a significant layoff and the fight in 2010 was five or six years past when beating Shane was a herculean feat. Eight years earlier, Vernon Forrest beat a prime Mosley much more convincingly than Floyd did and at the same weight, yet Forrest never got the accolades for beating him the way Mayweather did. When Floyd fought Cotto, Miguel had only lost twice, but was thrashed by Antonio Margarito, who may have been aided by loaded gloves and by Manny Pacquiao.

Pacquiao stopped Cotto and beat him beyond recognition and there were crickets after the fight. Three years later Cotto gives Mayweather one of the tougher bouts of his career en route to losing a decision - and the Mayweather fans were screaming..."See, he beat Cotto!” And in another genius move, Mayweather fought undefeated Canelo Alvarez when Canelo was still on the way up, before he really blossomed. Not to mention that the style contrast suited Floyd perfectly. In between those bouts he picked his opponents carefully, yes, including Marcos Maidana, who made his name beating Mayweather wannabe Adrien Broner.

Finally, after a six year build-up and conning many fans into believing that he feared a fighter who weighed 106 pounds in his pro-debut, Mayweather agreed to fight Manny Pacquiao in the biggest grossing fight ever. Yes, Pacquiao was an eight division champ, but he picked his opponents and mastered catchweight bouts almost as great as the father of them, Floyd Mayweather. Floyd understood that Manny was like shooting fish in barrel for him stylistically. If you doubt that, read my pre-fight piece the day of the bout May 2nd, 2015.

Many of Floyd’s bouts were against fighters that had 0% chance to be competitive with him and McGregor is the icing on the cake. Yes, in a boxing ring, McGregor has as much chance of beating Mayweather as Floyd would have to beat Conor in a cage, and it may even be less because Mayweather, being such an accurate striker, could get lucky and stop McGregor wearing 4-ounce gloves. But that’s not the point. The point is that Mayweather is playing both boxing fans and MMA fans in this one.

Floyd knows boxing fans want to see him tune up McGregor so they can rub it in the faces of MMA fans - saying boxers are tougher and better fighters than MMA combatants. And MMA fans want the same bragging rights...proclaiming that an MMA combatant crossed sports and beat one of boxing’s best at his own game. How can fans and observers be so foolish? Floyd is using McGregor because as of this moment he’s the biggest star in MMA. It’s easy money for Floyd - and it may turn out to be the biggest or second biggest purse of his career. As for McGregor, he’s trying to become the Mayweather, as far as earning potential, in mixed martial arts...and at the same time stick it to UFC honcho Dana White. McGregor knows that after the exhibition with Mayweather he’ll never need to enter an octagon or a ring again if he doesn’t want to.

The only other real all-time great who wrapped up his career by defeating an 0-0 guy from another sport was Archie Moore who knocked out wrestler Mike DiBiase. But Archie was 50 at the time (born 1913, not 1916), had 219 previous fights, and wasn’t getting paid millions of dollars.

In the final analysis, Mayweather will eclipse Rocky Marciano’s record by fighting a man who is 0-0 in the ring while at the same time making a ton of money. When it’s over Floyd will claim he’s the king of combat sports and is the biggest star in both boxing and MMA....again strolling down one of the easier ways to immortality! No fighter or athlete mastered the game of playing the fans greater than Floyd "Money" Mayweather, nobody.

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<![CDATA[Riddick Bowe’s Marine Corps Misadventure]]> http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168055-Riddick-Bowe’s-Marine-Corps-Misadventure&goto=newpost Thu, 23 Feb 2017 22:13:59 GMT Image: http://www.thesweetscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/bowe.jpg by Bernard Fernandez The snide remarks stung then, probably more... [img]http://www.thesweetscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/bowe.jpg[/img]

by Bernard Fernandez

The snide remarks stung then, probably more than any legal punch he received from Evander Holyfield or even the illegal ones below the belt landed by Andrew Golota. Twenty years later, they probably still haunt Riddick Bowe as the Ghost of Christmas Past tortured Ebenezer Scrooge. If there is a difference, it is that Scrooge’s vision was private, and in it he found ultimate redemption. For Bowe, who enjoyed so much success in the ring and so little of it at the United States Marine Corps Recruit Depot at Parris Island, S.C., those 11 days of chasing a boyhood dream became an exercise in humiliation that has yet to fully cease. Perhaps the taint of it all will endure forever, as will the glory of his epic, three-bout trilogy with Holyfield.

* * * * * * * * *Riddick Bowe wasn’t as good a Marine as Gomer Pyle.

*************** Once he washed out of the Marines, Bowe should have become a UPS driver. That way he’d at least get to wear a uniform.

*************** The Marines are looking for a few good men, and Riddick Bowe ain’t one of them.

There are worse things for a former heavyweight champion – one whose accomplishments include a silver medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics, ring earnings estimated at between $65 million and $100 million, depending on whose figures you choose to believe, and his 2015 induction into the International Boxing Hall of Fame – to endure than 11 days of discovering that some boyhood dreams are best left in one’s boyhood. Since he voluntarily separated himself from the Corps on Feb. 20, 1997, probably as much to the Marines’ relief as to his, the man known as “Big Daddy” has seen his fortune disappear, his mental and physical health diminish, his family and so-called friends drift away, and his otherwise commendable legacy at least somewhat tarnished.

Many of the sad and bad things that have made Bowe’s rags-to-riches story a cautionary tale of how easy it is for the process to be reversed likely would have happened regardless of whether he raised his right hand and taken the oath of enlistment on Feb. 10, 1997. Was it a just a publicity stunt to call positive attention to Bowe’s then-sputtering boxing career, or to the USMC? By all rights, Bowe, at 29, should never even have been considered as a candidate for Semper Fi-dom; the age limit for joining was 28; at 6-foot-5 and a bit north of 250 pounds, he was more than 20 pounds over the weight cutoff for his height, and he had a wife and five dependent children (the limit is three) at home.

The rationale for the Marines to grant multiple waivers for the celebrity recruit remains unclear, but one thing quickly became obvious: Once in uniform, Private Bowe would have to fulfill his duties in the same prescribed manner as would his younger, poorer and non-famous platoon mates. The Marines do not provide exceptions for wannabes who enter their ranks with a measure of wealth and privilege. For someone like Bowe, who detested training for fights and being told what to do as much as he reveled in being champion of the world and living life on his own pampered terms, the strict regimentation required of a Marine – and, even more so, of a Marine recruit – was virtually guaranteed to result in severe culture shock.

Chuck Wepner, the former heavyweight contender best known for his courageous but doomed challenge of WBC/WBA titlist Muhammad Ali on March 24, 1975, as well as being the inspiration for Sylvester Stallone’s Rocky Balboa character, knew better than most what Bowe was getting himself into. Wepner was 17 and a recent high school graduate when he joined the Marines in 1956, serving three years of active duty before mustering out as a corporal.

“The training in boot camp is harder than training for any opponent, ”Wepner, who lasted until the 15th round before being stopped by Ali,told boxing writer Robert Mladinich in 1997, shortly after Bowe left for Parris Island. “Riddick is a world-class athlete and will be in better shape than most of the recruits. I’m sure he can handle the physical aspect, but the mental aspect is the toughest part. The training is built on humiliation and embarrassment. They break you down so they can build you back up as a Marine. When you are a young kid looking for answers it will make a man out of you. But Riddick is pushing 30, a family man with $100 million in the bank. How is he going to take being called `maggot’ instead of `champ’ all day long?”

Bowe wasn’t the first individual to romanticize the notion of a military life, nor will he be the last. One of 13 children raised by Dorothy Bowe in a drug- and crime-infested housing project in the same gritty Brownsville section of Brooklyn, N.Y., that spawned Mike Tyson, he spoke of wanting his mother to see him in his “dress blues at attention” and that “the Marines are the elite and I want to be part of itbefore I get too old.”

To those familiar with what Bowe had to overcome to become the splendid boxer he was during his prime, getting to wear those dress blues was not necessary to qualify as a heroic figure. He refused to yield to the lure of gangs and drugs, and took it as a personal responsibility to walk his mother to and from work to protect her from muggers on the lookout for an easy mark. But not all of his family members were so strong, or so fortunate; he lost a sister, killed by drug dealers, and a brother, killed by AIDS contracted from dirty needles.

When the mocking putdowns arose after Bowe quit the Marines after 11 days, only three of which involved actual training, the fortitude and singularity of purpose he previously had exhibited in rising above his circumstances were largely ignored.

“Parris Island has to be Disney World compared with Brownsville,” Michael Katz, then with the New York Daily News, wrote in defending Bowe as so much more than Gomer Lite. “Don’t even try to compare the mortality rates.”

But while Bowe had the courage to say no to drugs and gangs, he could not always suppress his indulgence in other areas. It was not unusual for him to gain 30 to 40 pounds between fights, and his frequently professed devotion to then-wife Judy and his five kids by her (whose images he had tattooed on his back) notwithstanding, he slept around with the reckless abandon of an alley cat. With the assistance of Florida writer John Greenburg, Bowe’s yet-unpublished memoirs, with the working title of Big Daddy Forever, includes a passage in which he speculates he might have impregnatedas many as 25 women. He also said a family friend paid for six abortions.

Little wonder that Bowe’s manager, Rock Newman, had to repeatedly urgelegendary trainer Eddie Futch, who often threatened to quit and sometimes did, to return to the fighter’s exasperated support team. Then again, Bowe himself always seemed to be looking for the exit. Sure, it was a giddy trip, thrice testing himself against a great warrior like Holyfield and pulling down some serious scratch in the process --at one point Bowe owned 26 cars, including four Rolls-Royces, and 10 houses -- as well as having a private audience with the Pope in Vatican City and appearing on The Late Show With David Letterman – but at some point a fighter always has to return to the sweat, pain and monotony of the gym. To his credit, Bowe took time from his opulent and hedonistic ways to serve as a spokesman for Somalia famine relief and as a critic of South Africa’s then-official apartheid policy.

“It’s not like Bowe got money and then started hating the training,” Newman told The Washington Post in 2010. “He always hated it. There was rarely a fight – four, six, eight rounds, whatever – where Bowe didn’t want to quit. I mean, Bowe retired preparing for his second fight.”

Eventually, the lurching starts and screeching halts had to take a toll on any such athlete not named Roberto Duran, and that was never more apparent than in Bowe’s pair of disqualification victories against Golota, who was clearly winning on points in each instance until he sabotaged himself by too often targeting “Big Daddy’s” private parts. Although Bowe officially was 40-1 with 32 knockouts after the second of those matchups, he was a career-high and jiggly 252 pounds for the first, on July 11, 1996, the DQ prompting a half-hour riot in Madison Square Garden, a night which continues to live in pugilistic infamy.

Was it by coincidence or design that Bowe, searching for something he’d either lost or never found, revisited his old Marine Corps fantasy after the second referee-dictated nod over the ball-busting Golota, which took place on Dec. 14, 1996, in Atlantic City’s Boardwalk Hall?

Bowe’s enlistment –the signup deal was for three months of boot camp at Parris Island, six weeks of combat training at Camp LeJeune, N.C., then three years of active and five years inactive Reserve duty in the Washington, D.C. area (Bowe was then living in Fort Washington, Md.) –wasn’t particularly out of the ordinary, other than the fact that most Marine enlistees aren’t granted a slew of waivers prior to holding a press conference to reveal their career pivot.

The Marines didn’t promise Bowe a rose garden prior to his affixing his signature on the enlistment documents. They had him visit Parris Island for a look-around, the better to let him know what he would be in for, and rather than to scare him off, what he saw made him even more enthusiastic. He insisted he would go in with his eyes wide open, and nothing could or would dissuade him.

The first eight days at Parris Island involved mostly paperwork and orientation. But it was that first day of actual training – up at 5 a.m., in bed at 9 p.m., with shouting drill instructors always at high, profane decibel levels – that caused Private Bowe to realize that the lifestyle change he had yearned for was not going to be a good fit. Although neither he nor anyone with the Marines familiar with his situation have spoken at length about particulars of his abbreviated stay, the consensus appears to be that multimillionaires accustomed to freedom of movement are not necessarily the best candidates for a $900.90-a-month job which requires absolute adherence to rules, regulations and a strict code of conduct that is the very essence of esprit de corps. Three days into the nitty-gritty part of his training, Bowe, as well as his friend, Deion Jordan, who was accepted with him under the USMC’s “Buddy Program,” became the first recruits to be released from Platoon 1036, C Company, 1st Recruit Battalion.

“I thought they’d probably give you a hard time for a week or so,” Bowe said. “I didn’t realize that for the 12 weeks you’re in boot camp, somebody was going to be in your face.”

Major Rick Long, then a Marine spokesman at Parris Island, said he had spoken to Bowe about his intention to voluntarily withdraw from training and that he understood, at least to a point, the boxer’s rationale for doing so. “He seemed very genuine in his desire to become a Marine,” Long noted. “However, he decided at this stage of his life that adjusting to the regimented lifestyle was too difficult. It was just a combination of being told when to eat and how fast, when to dress and how fast, and the structured environment. In Marine Corps recruit training, you are constantly supervised and you are on a very rigorous and fast-paced schedule.”

Added Marine Gunnery Sgt. Wiley Tiller: “As an athlete, he had it his way. In the Marines, you don’t have it that way. He would have been totally stripped of anything he ever was. That was probably messing with his manhood. He could have done the physical training, but being told what to do, when to do it, how to do it, that’s not easy for a 29-year-old to handle.”

Newman was of the opinion that family considerations, more so than the Marine way of doing things, likely was the primary reason for Bowe to bail. More than anything, he just might have been homesick.

“For eight years, Riddick’s spent enormous amounts of time away from his wife and family,” Newman reasoned. “The hardest part for Riddick was never in the ring, and it was never the long hours of training. It was always the separation that took place ? He hated time away from his family.”

If Newman is correct, what has happened to Bowe in the aftermath of his famously futile flirtation with the Marine Corps devolves from bewildering to tragic. Two months after leaving Parris Island, Bowe abruptly announced his retirement from boxing (he later returned for three winning bouts against C-grade opponents from 2004 to 2008). A year after that, he and Judy separated, he was accused of kidnapping her and the children and forcing them into a car in Charlotte, N.C., and driving them to Maryland.* Pleading guilty to a reduced federal charge of interstate domestic violence (for* allegedly threatening Judy and the kids with a knife and pepper spray), he was convicted and, following several appeals, sentenced in January 2003 to 18 months in prison. He did the time, plus six months of house arrest, but maintains Judy and the children willingly got into his Lincoln Navigator and that “I never kidnapped anybody.”

Things would go from bad to worse. Bowe filed for bankruptcy in 2005, listing debts in excess of $4 million; his weight, always an issue when he was boxing, swelled to 300 pounds, and during the criminal proceedings against him it was revealed that he underwent neurological tests that indicated he had irreparable frontal lobe damage. Bowe does have slurred speech, but he steadfastly rejects any mental damage stemming from his 45-bout boxing career.

“I feel great,” he told The Post. “Some people tell me I talk funny, but this is the sport I chose and perhaps this is one of the downfalls. It is what it is.”

Bowe, now 49, is remarried – happily, he said, to wife Terri, with whom he has two children -- and claims to have exorcised many of the demons that cast dark shadows on his frame of mind before, during and after he did his Marine thing. But, apart from the fact his once-vast fortune is gone, so are those he once welcomed into his inner circle. He no longer has any contact with his onetime Svengali, Newman, or with family members and confidantes who, he said, only wanted to be around him so long as he was paying their way.

“I really don’t have any regrets,” Bowe said in advance of his induction into the IBHOF in June 2015, dismissing some critics’ charges that he deliberately avoided squaring off against Lennox Lewis and Tyson in the pro ranks. “The fact that I fought Evander three times pretty much made up for everything else. I think those other guys (Lewis and Tyson) realize that they couldn’t have done anything better than I did when I fought Holyfield. They couldn’t even have done it as good. (Bowe won two of his three fights with Holyfield, including one by stoppage.)

“If I could change anything, the No. 1 thing is that I wouldn’t have Rock Newman as my manager. I wish I had people around me who had my best interests at heart. I wish I was more into the financial part of the game, that I had paid more attention to what was going on around me. There were meetings and stuff where I needed to be there. I really thought that (Newman) had my back. He didn’t.”

Time has a way of distorting reality to accommodate individual perspective. There are those who maintain that Bowe was unworthy of entering the hallowed halls of the IBHOF, and those who figure his 43-1 career record, with 33 KOs, made him a slam-dunk for election. There also are those who dismiss his 11 days at Parris Island as a cartoonish attempt to regain some form of relevancy, while others credit him for at least taking a few tentative steps toward realization of an inner truth that he long sought, and still lies beyond his grasp.

The real Riddick Bowe remains a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. He is that rare figure who is who he is, but only to himself. For the rest of us, he is who we choose to think of him as being. In their recruiting brochures the Marines promise that “the change is forever,” but one wonders how much change, or how permanent, can be wrought by 11 days in the broad stratosphere of life.

“I just hope Riddick finds whatever it is he’s looking for,” said Mackie Shilstone, the New Orleans-based conditioning expert who had the perplexing task of helping get Bowe ready for some of his most significant bouts. “It always seemed to me he was looking for some alter ego. I think that’s what happened when he went into the Marines. You know that was a form of escapism. He was always trying to escape from, or to, something.”

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Press Release: Lucien Bute / Eleider Alvarez Pre-Fight Quotes http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168030-Press-Release-Lucien-Bute-Eleider-Alvarez-Pre-Fight-Quotes&goto=newpost Wed, 22 Feb 2017 00:49:53 GMT MONTREAL (February 21, 2017) - The "BUTE VS ALVAREZ" press conference was held today in Quebec City for this Friday night's championship fight between undefeated World Boxing Council (WBC) Silver light heavyweight champion Eleider "Storm" Alvarez and former super middleweight world champion Lucian Bute (32-3-1, 25 KOs) at Videotron Centre in Quebec City, Canada.

"BUTE VS. ALVAREZ", promoted by Groupe Yvon Michel (GYM) and Gestev, is a presentation of Videotron and Mise-O-Jeu,

Integrated Sports Media will distribute "BUTE VS. ALVAREZ" live in the United States, starting at 8 p.m. ET / 5 p.m. PT, on cable, satellite and internet pay-per-view via iN Demand, Vubiquity, DIRECTV, DISH and the FITE app for a suggested retail price of only $29.95.

In Canada, "BUTE VS. ALVAREZ" will be available to watch, in English or French, on Canal Indigo, Shaw TV and Bell TV; English-only on Rodgers PPV, as well as in many of the top Canadian sports bars.

Outside of North America, "BUTE VS ALVAREZ" is being distributed by leading boxing television rights distribution firm, Protocol Sports Marketing Ltd.

The 12-round Bute vs. Alvarez main event will also be the final WBC eliminator to determine the mandatory challenger for the winner's GYM stablemate, reigning WBC and lineal light heavyweight champion Adonis "Superman" Stevenson (28-1-0, 23 KOs).

Tickets for "BUTE VS. ALVAREZ" are on sale and available to purchase by going on line to www.Videotron.centrequebeccity.cpm/tickets and www.Ticketmaster.ca


Lucian Bute: ''I am really, really confident going into this fight. I respect Alvarez; he is the WBC No. 1 ranked contender in the light heavyweight division. He is undefeated but my best moments as a professional boxer came here in Quebec City and I am sure it will be another one of those moments Friday night. And it will be a spectacular fight for the fans!''

Eleider Alvarez: ''I have to win for my future and for my family. I will give everything Friday night. My time has come and I will make the best of it.''

Yvon Michel, promoter of show and both fighters: ''It is going to be an exciting fight and card. Eleider Alvarez said that he is ready to die in the ring and he means it. Lucian also is ready to do whatever it takes to win Friday. We have two fighters, two true competitors, who will give everything and leave everything in the ring Friday.''

Howard Grant, Bute's trainer: ''Lucian had the best camp of his career. He had more energy in this camp than in the ones for James DeGale and Badou Jack. He had good sparring also and he will be ready Friday night.''

Marc Ramsay, Alvarez trainer: ''This is the third time in his career that Alvarez has been called out after a sparring session. First it was Andrew Gardiner...and he was stunned by Eleider in the ninth round of the fight. He was never the same after that, got knocked out by an unknown fighter, and retired. Than it was Nicholson Poulard. He was KO'ed in the third round and he retired after that. Lucian asked Eleider for a fight after seeing a sparring between Alvarez and a fighter from the Grant Brothers Gym. He intends to deliver the goods Friday. They asked for Alvarez, they will have Alvarez.'' ]]>
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Broner / Granados Talk Post-Fight http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272168007-Broner-Granados-Talk-Post-Fight&goto=newpost Sun, 19 Feb 2017 15:44:32 GMT Adrien Broner defeated Adrian Granados by split decision at Cincinnati's Cintas Center on Feb. 18 in a non-title fight initially slated for 12 rounds that was reduced to 10 at Broner's behest. The scores were 97-93, 96-94, and 93-97.


“I knew that Adrian Granados was going to come tough,” Broner said. “At the end of the day, I was beating him up. This was an easy one for me. I feel good.

“Adrian Granados is a world-class fighter, a lot of guys duck him but I wanted to fight him because that's what I'm about. Inside this ring it's business. Granados is a great friend of mine. It's nothing personal.

“I'm taking my career more seriously and being more positive. I want to apologize to everyone who looks up to me and has seen the foolish things I've done. I'm ready to be a better role model, a better father figure and a better star for everyone.”


“I knew it wasn’t a pretty fight but I'm thankful to my team,” Granados said. “You already know, there were all types of games that they played with me. We had to change the weights. We had to change the scale. They are just playing all kind of games. I just want to be treated fairly.

“I understand, I don't have a perfect record, but I can beat any of these guys. You have seen the scorecards. Split decision. Come on. Give me another one. Let's do it again. I can’t wait to watch this fight, because I know I won.

“Come to my house. He fought smart and did his thing. If he thinks he did it this time, let's do it again. Let’s do it in my house. Come to Chicago."

Post-fight quotes compliments of Matthew Donovan. ]]>
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