Joshua vs. Klitschko Would Be The Real Passing Of The Torch

 

By Frank Lotierzo

Tyson Fury, based on his upset of Wladimir Klitschko last November, is the reigning heavyweight champion. Fury’s upset caught the boxing world by surprise and fans have been waiting nearly a year to see if Fury could best a better prepared Klitschko again. However, due to Tyson’s mental health the fight has been canceled again.

It’s unknown whether or not Tyson Fury will ever box again let alone fight Klitschko a second time. And if truth be told, I doubt boxing fans are very upset that in all likelihood they won’t see a rematch. The Fury-Klitschko bout was unwatchable. There were hardly any clean punches landed and it looked like two big novices in about their eighth or ninth pro bout. If you had never seen either guy fight before, you would have come away saying Fury can’t fight and Klitschko won’t. Moreover, Fury’s win certainly didn’t serve notice that there’s a new sheriff in town; he squeaked past Wladimir.

With Fury out of the picture, various news agencies are reporting that a clash between Wladimir Klitschko 64-4 (53) and IBF champ Joshua Fury 17-0 (17) has become a possibility. Joshua is scheduled to fight November 26th against an opponent not yet named. The fight will be at the same arena where Klitschko was set to battle Fury in late October before Fury’s issues surfaced. With Fury out of the picture, a Joshua vs. Klitschko matchup would be even better.

Wladmir Klitschko represents yesterday’s heavyweight elite. At 6’6” 245 he learned how to use his height and reach to fight like a big man. His money punch, although he could turn the fight with his left-hook, was his right hand. And he only needed to land one of them clean to either end the fight or induce his opponent to clam up and look to go the distance. He practically dominated the division for a decade and most of his mandatory challengers looked like no-hopers once he was in front of them. Granted, the era in which he fought was very pedestrian, but he did the only thing a fighter can be asked to do, and that’s beat everybody in front of him during his title reign, which Wladimir did until Fury came along. However, he’s been on the decline for the last two or three years — something that was evident during the bout with Fury when he just couldn’t pull the trigger offensively. That said, Wladimir Klitschko has secured his place in heavyweight history and is still the second or third most dangerous fighter in the division. Yes, he lost to Tyson Fury, but aside from Joshua and Luis Ortiz, I’d favor Wladimir over any other heavyweight in the world.

If Klitschko represents the past – Anthony Joshua absolutely represents the future. Joshua, like Klitschko, is a former Olympic gold medalist. He’s also known for his power and exceptional knockout record. And like Wladimir, Joshua, 6’6” 235, is a tremendously proportioned heavyweight physically. Both he and Klitschko own fight altering power in their right hand and left hook, with the major difference being that Joshua’s hands are faster, he puts his punches together in succession more fluidly and, most notably, he isn’t the least bit tentative when it comes to cutting loose and really letting his hands go. The only question regarding Joshua is his chin and durability, something that has plagued Klitschko his entire career being that he was stopped in dramatic fashion in three of his four losses. But we must not forget that Dillian Whyte, who isn’t in the same stratosphere as Wladimir when it comes to punching power, really shook up Joshua before Anthony stopped him. So it’s plausible that Klitschko could put Joshua away in a spectacular fashion if he ever tags him with his best right hand.

As you can see, Joshua-Klitschko is a very intriguing bout if it gets made. Imagine what a win over Joshua would do for Wladimir’s legacy, especially coming at age 40 when he’s viewed as a fighter on the decline. How many fighters not named Bernard Hopkins have scored their most impressive victory at age 40? I don’t believe anyone doubts that Anthony Joshua has the greatest potential and highest ceiling among any of the so-called next generation heavyweights….including Deontay Wilder and Joseph Parker. Among today’s heavyweights, Joshua is the most hyped, most exciting to watch, and most talked-about title holder since Mike Tyson circa 1986-88. And like Tyson did during his prime, Joshua puts his opponents away in a memorable fashion, leaving fans clamoring to see him again. A win over Joshua at this late stage of the game would be monumental for Wladimir and he no doubt has the tools, even at 40, to pull it off.

But motivation isn’t a one way street pertaining to these two. Joshua would be more jacked- up heading into a bout with Klitschko than we’ve seen him to date. Beating Klitschko would truly represent the passing of the torch in much the same way Marciano beating Louis, Clay beating Liston, Holmes beating Ali and Tyson beating Holmes did. I know Fury beat Wladimir in his last fight, but Fury wasn’t going to go down in heavyweight history as anything other than a footnote. Whereas Joshua would be defeating a better prepared version of Klitschko in a no doubt more impressive manner, and Joshua has the potential to one day be thought of as a legendary champion. I know that’s a long way off, but it’s extremely plausible, which obviously could never be said about Tyson Fury even in jest.

Joshua-Klitschko would be a genuine changing of the guard. Obviously it would be better for boxing if Joshua beat Klitschko because the new star heavyweight will have officially arrived. And Joshua would perhaps dominate the division for years to come. A nice looking guy built like a Greek God, he’s got authentic star power and he can punch. Add to that he’s young and very affable while at the same time willing to fight the best the division has to offer….it’s nearly impossible to refute that he’ll maintain high interest in boxing’s marque division. Actually, he will have come along at the perfect time. Conversely, if Klitschko beats Joshua, he will spoil the apple cart, but he will have gained respect in a way that he probably never dreamed of so late in his career.

Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s going to unfold that way if they meet. I expect Joshua to come out and go right at Wladimir. Anthony has the better hand speed and doesn’t fight with trepidation. He’ll land something big and meaningful on Klitschko in the midst of Wladimir surveying him trying to decipher his mode of attack….only then it will be too late. Joshua will have unloaded with his best finishing right hands and left-hooks, Wladimir will never recover, and a new heavyweight superstar will be on top of the boxing world!

Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com

 

COMMENTS

-Radam G :

AJ is green -- too green. Unless Doc Wlad has slipped, he should school AJ and kayo him. It will be a replay of German Max putting the Brownbomber to sleep way back in da day during great gramps's prime. Holla!


-SouthPawFlo :

I really think this would be a bad move for AJ, Other than the Fury Abberration Wlad has been dominate, and I think he has too much Size, Skill and Knowledge to lose to AJ... And what's worse he might even Stop him and that would stop the money train, and really ruin the confidence of the Kid, he's not ready yet for Klitchsko


-Kid Blast :

AJ overwhelms him and KO's him early.


-Yogo :

Frank and KB know the score. Wlad will be KO'd then applauded by the Brit supporters. The Torch shall be passed.


-Radam G :

Frank and KB know the score. Wlad will be KO'd then applauded by the Brit supporters. The Torch shall be passed.
I'm not so certain about that. But you Brits have taken over the heavyweight global scene. And against marshmallows, AJ has been very super-human mean. But if he dances with somebody with an iota of heat, he is going be crushed like a jelly bean. Holla!


-Yogo :

Only the mighty scary Cuban can de-rail AJ now and that dude don't exist. A mere figment of the imagination. TF's softened the old champ up nicely and the time is right. Ya'll know it. :)


-Kid Blast :

Only the mighty scary Cuban can de-rail AJ now and that dude don't exist. A mere figment of the imagination. TF's softened the old champ up nicely and the time is right. Ya'll know it. :)
Yes. You are spot on, my good fellow.


-deepwater2 :

If they can't make the WK - AJ fight let Shannon Briggs get in there against WK or AJ next. Both need to stay busy , Briggs will sell. Both guys will look at it as a tough tune up. Win Win


-Radam G :

If they can't make the WK - AJ fight let Shannon Briggs get in there against WK or AJ next. Both need to stay busy , Briggs will sell. Both guys will look at it as a tough tune up. Win Win
But Doc Wlad is trying to regain an aura of invincibility. And AJ is trying to develop one. "Let's go, CHAMP!" Briggs might short circuit both of them. He is too risky. And can and will shorten future, monster revenues for both pugs. Holla!


-Paul Kevin :

Joshua is way beyond Klitschko and AJ is young and powerful i guess Joshua will win by KO


-dollar bond :

Agreed


-brownsugar :

I got AJ all the way...Yogo, I liked your comment, its AJ's time. Also Briggs couldn't get past Fred Kassi, or Domenic Breazeale and Joseph Parker would murder da bum.


-deepwater2 :

I got AJ all the way...Yogo, I liked your comment, its AJ's time. Also Briggs couldn't get past Fred Kassi, or Domenic Breazeale and Joseph Parker would murder da bum.
If you think Briggs is a bum I wonder what you think of AJ's resume? Joseph Parker looks good hitting a Russian Heavy Bag but how does he look against a big man with movement and boxing IQ? Fred Kassi? Briggs would beat him with one hand. Breazeal? He is not A level or B level. He is C level and can only beat D level fighters. Briggs is a live opponent against any top 10 heavy. If Big Baby knows Briggs would beat 8 outta 10 of the top guys.


-brownsugar :

If you think Briggs is a bum I wonder what you think of AJ's resume? Joseph Parker looks good hitting a Russian Heavy Bag but how does he look against a big man with movement and boxing IQ? Fred Kassi? Briggs would beat him with one hand. Breazeal? He is not A level or B level. He is C level and can only beat D level fighters. Briggs is a live opponent against any top 10 heavy. If Big Baby knows Briggs would beat 8 outta 10 of the top guys.
Well if Briggs is as good as you say he is.... he should be fighting somebody,... anybody instead of just wasting his time trolling big name fighters for a payday. And if Breazeale is a D, then Briggs flunks the course with an "F" for "fake contender". I think even Areola retires the bum officially known as Briggs. For your sake Deep I hope Briggs gets a shot at any top 50 contender so we can see the boxing world finally purge itself of this loathsome boorish pitchman.. So we can all be rid of any allusion that Briggs can be a viable contender in today's heavyweight world. Lets go Champ.. let's see you get embarrassed one more time. Lol...


-deepwater2 :

How many times has Briggs been embarrassed? He took his beating against VK with only one arm. He lost. Not embarrassing. He had Lennox Lewis fighting for his life as long as it lasted. He pushed Lewis. He lost. Nothing to be embarrassed. I would say his loss to big time mccline was a bit unexpected but not embarrassing. He knocked out the Russian champ with one punch with 10 seconds left. That wasn't embarrassing. He had a fight with Haye lined up but Haye pulled out. Arreola is embarrassing!!!!! I don't even need to list why.


-brownsugar :

How many times has Briggs been embarrassed? He took his beating against VK with only one arm. He lost. Not embarrassing. He had Lennox Lewis fighting for his life as long as it lasted. He pushed Lewis. He lost. Nothing to be embarrassed. I would say his loss to big time mccline was a bit unexpected but not embarrassing. He knocked out the Russian champ with one punch with 10 seconds left. That wasn't embarrassing. He had a fight with Haye lined up but Haye pulled out. Arreola is embarrassing!!!!! I don't even need to list why.
Oh ... I forgot that Briggs is a personal friend/acquaintance (and homeboy) of yours. I didn't take into consideration that friends sometimes see things through different lenses than everyone else. Well I have to commend your Loyalty to Briggs Deep. But that's all I see thats worthy of accommodation where Briggs is concerned. But he needs to fight,.... following boxers to the restaurant and eating the off their plate is not going to do it. I would have far more respect for Briggs if he could at least beat Dimintrenko ( forgive the spelling) inside 6 rounds. He needs to do more that talk ..Briggs has to produce to get his shot.


-deepwater2 :

Oh ... I forgot that Briggs is a personal friend/acquaintance (and homeboy) of yours. I didn't take into consideration that friends sometimes see things through different lenses than everyone else. Well I have to commend your Loyalty to Briggs Deep. But that's all I see thats worthy of accommodation where Briggs is concerned. But he needs to fight,.... following boxers to the restaurant and eating the off their plate is not going to do it. I would have far more respect for Briggs if he could at least beat Dimintrenko ( forgive the spelling) inside 6 rounds. He needs to do more that talk ..Briggs has to produce to get his shot.
Little Toe Haye promised to fight Briggs if Briggs got a win on his card. Briggs got the win. Little Toe Haye is nowhere to be found. If Briggs is an easy mark a why doesn't Wilder fight him. Wilder hasn't fought a top 10 heavy except Stiverne( if he was even in the top 10). Briggs brings in money, any top guy should want to fight him for the exposure.


-deepwater2 :

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-Radam G :

If you think Briggs is a bum I wonder what you think of AJ's resume? Joseph Parker looks good hitting a Russian Heavy Bag but how does he look against a big man with movement and boxing IQ? Fred Kassi? Briggs would beat him with one hand. Breazeal? He is not A level or B level. He is C level and can only beat D level fighters. Briggs is a live opponent against any top 10 heavy. If Big Baby knows Briggs would beat 8 outta 10 of the top guys.
Unfortunately many of the haters and ___ __s_ will continue to believe the bullsyet. Because no way anytime soon will the top dawgs give the dangerous Shannon "The Cannon" aka "Let go, CHAMP!" Briggs a shot. When it comes to Brigg, it a lot of syet talking, and then pulling out -- not bulling up -- like some SCARD [sic] bytches -- not wanting an arse thrashing and a ton of stitches. D-Wild straight-up ducked The Cannon, and so has "D Hayemaker." Green-arse AJ is going to get knocked the fudge out if he steps toward any direction upward. Dude has been scrapping with pugs already in boksing coffins. We don't even know if he can beat one that is on a stretcher, because the muscle dude has a suspected chin. AJ's promoter Hearn is no fool. He is not yet ready to take a chance on AJ being schooled. And possible sent to boksing's Boothill. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

Unfortunately many of the haters and ___ __s_ will continue to believe the bullsyet. Because no way anytime soon will the top dawgs give the dangerous Shannon "The Cannon" aka "Let go, CHAMP!" Briggs a shot. When it comes to Brigg, it a lot of syet talking, and then pulling out -- not bulling up -- like some SCARD [sic] bytches -- not wanting an arse thrashing and a ton of stitches. D-Wild straight-up ducked The Cannon, and so has "D Hayemaker." Green-arse AJ is going to get knocked the fudge out if he steps toward any direction upward. Dude has been scrapping with pugs already in boksing coffins. We don't even know if he can beat one that is on a stretcher, because the muscle dude has a suspected chin. AJ's promoter Hearn is no fool. He is not yet ready to take a chance on AJ being schooled. And possible sent to boksing's Boothill. Holla!
AJ was rocked by Whyte. Hearn knows clever matchmaking is needed for the time being. AJ can develop into the main man but he is not there yet. 2 years and 5 fights away. If Briggs is so bad all the top guys would be beating on him.


-SouthPawFlo :

I like where this thread went... Briggs has been avoided, but he'll sale tickets, he has "charisma" which is something that Luis Ortiz doesn't... Briggs is a live Dog because he can punch, and he has the ability to get into the fighters head... Briggs vs AJ will sale but I don't think they'll make that fight it's too much of a risk for AJ


-deepwater2 :

I like where this thread went... Briggs has been avoided, but he'll sale tickets, he has "charisma" which is something that Luis Ortiz doesn't... Briggs is a live Dog because he can punch, and he has the ability to get into the fighters head... Briggs vs AJ will sale but I don't think they'll make that fight it's too much of a risk for AJ
Can't argue with that!


-Domenic :

AJ would obliterate Briggs. It'd be bad for the sport. Foreman's comeback remains, rightly so, the gold standard of heavyweight comebacks (or ALL comebacks, all sports). But he was ultra special. Briggs was never quite there. He's not Canastota bound. He was a good, serviceable heavyweight in an underrated era, one that's growing in time. His claim to fame was his spirited KO loss against a prime Lennox Lewis. It was a great night for him, in defeat. He doesn't carry the aura that George did, the pedigree, the whole package. Totally different deal. Briggs deserves credit, and kudos, for a solid career, below Michael Moorer, in the Mike Weaver range, Tim Witherspoon range. Maybe Michael Dokes, same tier. But the point is, the version of Briggs now reflects poorly on the sport.


-Domenic :

I thought Foreman beat Briggs soundly in their meeting too, 20 years ago or whatever. Foreman fought a bunch of bums, but also accepted some dangerous assignments, during his comeback. Briggs won't fight anyone of note. Totally different deal. Briggs does that for a reason. Big George would say point blank during the early 90s, I want NOTHING to do with Bowe or Lewis (Lewis then was pre-McCall). He liked the undersized guys, Holy, MM, etc. But he fought the hungry Alex Stewarts of the world then, Rodriguez, Bert Cooper's, Qawi's, Coetzee's, on and on. Briggs won't touch anyone remotely dangerous.


-Skibbz :

wait, people are calling for Briggs to get a step up? Shannon Briggs? Really? That's worse than Roy continuing his crusade in the ring.. At least Roy is active and actually fighting bums..


-brownsugar :

Thank God for the reality check (Skibbz and Domenic), for a moment I thought this thread had gone to an alternate dimension. I have no problem with Briggs getting a final payday. But nobody needs Briggs, he's a no-win situation.... Briggs needs everybody else.


-deepwater2 :

Compared to the guys That Haye and Wilder( and AJ but he is new and is on the way up) have been fighting, Briggs is ranked higher. Briggs can teach these guys a thing or two. Put him in against Big Daddy, Ortiz, Wilder,AJ and it will be bigger and better than any of the no names outside the top 40 these guys are currently fighting. Briggs or Derrick Rossy? Which one would you rather see?


-deepwater2 :

What can I say, I like Briggs. The division is weak and the top guys are fighters bums way down the rankings. Name Hayes last few. Name Wilder's last few. AJ seems to be the future of the division. Wilder is a paper champ.


-Radam G :

What can I say, I like Briggs. The division is weak and the top guys are fighters bums way down the rankings. Name Hayes last few. Name Wilder's last few. AJ seems to be the future of the division. Wilder is a paper champ.
Human nature and beliefs are slow to change. Especially that of boxing fans. Centuries fly by and they believe the same old syet and ways. Over a century ago, most fans and their fruity friends didn't believe that an old-arse 30-something Jack Johnson was going to beat the youthful champion Tommy Burns. Thirty years old was thought of being old and out of prime during the early 20th century. Life expectancy for a male in 1908 was 55 years old. For an AmerKano black male, it was even less. But old 30-year-old JJ made TB into mincemeat and held the crown until he was 38-years old. Almost a 100 years later, a d@mn thing didn't change in the thought patterns of fans and fanfaronades. And haters and trolls then popped up on da scene in da game. They mocked old 30-something year old Rev. "Big" George Foreman merciless for daring to believe that he could be king again at 38 years old plus. But he fooled them all and did it at 45 years old with life expectancy at 73 years old for a man, and, again, much less for an Afrikano AmerKano one. And a new phenomenon of a life expectancy of 61 for an ex-elite athlete. For now with the life expectancy for Yank men being near 80 years old, Briggs is likely in his old-boxer prime at nearly 50 years old to whup one of these modern-day weak-arse heavyweight paper champions. Don't be puckin' SCARD!!! Give him a shot. I bet that he can beat D-Wild, AJ, Big Daddy Browne and/or Cuban L Ortiz -- a bunch of weak paper champions. Holla!


-Domenic :

What can I say, I like Briggs. The division is weak and the top guys are fighters bums way down the rankings. Name Hayes last few. Name Wilder's last few. AJ seems to be the future of the division. Wilder is a paper champ.
That's a valid point. But Briggs just hasn't shown anything in sooooooo long. His last good effort was the bloodbath loss against Vitali, a brave and admirable punching-bag showing for him, that took place 5+ years ago, and left him in intensive care. He's not improving now that he's in the winter of his 40's. A good fight for him would be Luis Ortiz. He holds a strap. He's real. If he beats Ortiz, or is competitive, he's in the mix. But would Briggs take that fight? Wilder has been kid-gloved. But he was in Russia for Povetkin, and everything that transpired there wasn't the fault of Wilder (I'm not a Wilder apologist at all; his title defenses have been reprehensible). But Brigggs, I get the admiration, but ****, we might as well glove up Riddick Bowe or Iran Barkley.


-Paul Kevin :

AJ is very confident and he's going to win


-stormcentre :

Have to stop this madness. Where the "F" is my crystal meth? Damn it, even a disco biscuit will do. Blood heavyweight division is almost a shambles. Again? Still? Sure (as sad as it is to say) Briggs may well just be as good - or possibly even better - than some of the guys that Haye, Wilder, and Parker are currently feasting on. But . . . . For the love of boxing. Please Lord let there be more to heavyweight boxing than Fury, Klitschko, and the sad set of opponents they and some of the aforementioned fighters seem to always be matched against such that after it's all said and done the best we get is to see actors pretending the danger was real as they publicly pat themselves on the back for the great achievement; like it wasn't a foregone conclusion before it started. Let AJ, Parker, Haye, and/or Wilder, fight *Big Daddy. At least that *dude is hungry - will fight and not run - is real and proper hard - can take a decent shot and also loves to give them, and . . . If he goes down he gest up and keeps fighting.
Storm. :) :) :)
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-deepwater2 :

Let's all cross our fingers that the top guys fight it out but call me cynical because I see the top guys not fighting each other and instead I see them fighting the likes of Derrick Rossey, David Price,Cristian Hammer and football player Seth Mitchell if he didn't quit boxing all together. An don't forget Malik Scott is always available to fall on the floor. Briggs vs Haye would be fun.


-SouthPawFlo :

I do think AJ has all the tools to be the next big thing, But I just think people are anointing him too fast... He won the belt from arguably the worst Heavyweight Title Holder in the Boxing History... But I can say this, with proper matchmaking there can be some good and exciting Bouts in the Heavyweight Division: Haye vs Briggs Joshua vs Haye Wilder vs Fury (if he ever returns) Wilder Vs Joshua Luis Ortiz vs ANYBODY Klitcksho vs Fury 2 Klitcksho vs Wilder Briggs vs Joshua


-Skibbz :

A good set of cynics and all rightfully so. Supposedly joshua klit is happening... who knows? Supposedly whyte browne maaaay happen.....? Who cares? Wilder has fallen off a cliff. Fury is in and out of boxing... AJ has the buzz right now, but his opponents haven't been the world quality you would expect.


-miguel1 :

Ortiz vs Takam is apparently signed for Monaco. Europe is running boxing right now, the American system is broken and no one is running consistent shows worth a **** anymore. WIlder had a few instagrams or something whee he is back in the gym training. Remember blown bicep and stuff, we were not going to see him again til '17 anyway.


-Skibbz :

Ortiz vs Takam is apparently signed for Monaco. Europe is running boxing right now, the American system is broken and no one is running consistent shows worth a **** anymore. WIlder had a few instagrams or something whee he is back in the gym training. Remember blown bicep and stuff, we were not going to see him again til '17 anyway.
Ahh I see how did that happen to him?