If Arum Makes Pacquiao-Crawford, You Know He’s Cashing Out On Manny

Cashing Out On Manny – In most cases a column on the Crawford-Postol junior welterweight clash this past Saturday night – might begin with the assumption that most boxing fans saw the bout and by now are well informed as to how the fight went. It was Crawford’s first PPV bout as the headliner and the buy numbers aren’t in as of this writing, but it’s a given the numbers won’t be anywhere near the million plus who would’ve seen the fight had it aired on HBO.

If by chance you didn’t see the bout, Terence Crawford 29-0 (20) was brilliant in dismantling Viktor Postol 28-1 (12). In the course of successfully defending his WBO junior welterweight belt, he also captured Postol’s junior welterweight belt and cleared up any confusion (if there was any) as to who is the baddest and certainly the alpha fighter in the division. Crawford won a lopsided unanimous decision, dominating perhaps 32 minutes of a 36 minute fight. If you’ve been a regular reader of this column, you know it’s been said in this space that Crawford is the genuine article. Terence can box, he can punch, and he can fight both inside and outside. He’s also terrific at fighting on the move and taking away the bullets his opponents have in their holster looking to send his way – and if that weren’t enough, Crawford has a bit of a cocky mean streak running through him that gives him a little extra as a fighter.

Some were surprised by how easily Crawford took away Postol’s good jab, but not me. I expected Crawford to make Postol look almost pedestrian.  And that’s not because Postol is a slouch – it’s more so because Crawford is such a natural boxer and possesses a boxing aptitude that’s higher than he gets credit for. He totally flustered Postol and when Viktor attempted to let his hands go, Crawford neutralized him by tying him up and mixing his attack to the head and body. Terence counter-punched masterfully and after dropping Postol twice in the fifth round, he ran away with the fight.

Granted, he was respectful of Postol, whose strength kept Crawford wary throughout the fight. Crawford never really tried for the kayo, although he might have been able to get it had he really pushed. Then again, Postol was so hesitant from being countered that he didn’t let his hands go because he was concerned with what was coming back at him. And with that unfolding, it was easy for Crawford to control the bout without taking any reckless and unnecessary chances.

Crawford probably exceeded expectations due to the ease in which he controlled the bout. It was a great performance and hopefully not outside the understanding of casual observers. The only negative that may surface, which has nothing to do with Crawford, is that perhaps not many saw the fight because of the $60 cost to purchase it. As I said before the bout, I think promoter Bob Arum was penny wise and pound foolish in making the fight a PPV event. That said, there’s no doubt the next time Crawford fights, it’ll be a legitimate PPV extravaganza.

Check out The Boxing Channel report on Crawford vs Postol for highlights.

Cashing Out On Manny?

Cashing Out On Manny – The question now is who will be next for Crawford?  The opponent mentioned most often is former eight division title holder Manny Pacquiao 58-6-2 (38).  Pacquiao retired this past April after winning a unanimous decision over Timothy Bradley in their rubber match, but his retirement was short-lived.  In his bout prior to fighting Bradley, Pacquiao was thoroughly out-boxed by Floyd Mayweather en route to losing a one-sided decision.  As a fighter Pacquiao still has something in the tank and would no doubt beat many of the big names, but not all, at the top of both the junior welterweight and welterweight divisions. Maybe the most important question is, exactly how much does his longtime promoter Bob Arum believe he has left at the world class level? And here’s how you’ll glean a pretty good idea.  If Arum makes a fight between Pacquiao and Crawford, it will be my belief that Bob now realizes Manny is capable of losing to any of the elite 140 or 147 pound fighters on a given night. And when that happens, Arum wants to guarantee that it is his fighter who ultimately closes out Pacquiao’s stellar career.

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Pacquiao is still a major draw and would be a favorite over fighters the likes of Adrien Broner 32-2 (24) and Danny Garcia 32-0 (18) who have been clamoring to fight him. That said, it’s not automatic that Pacquiao would come out on top versus either….and you can throw the names Keith Thurman 27-0 (22) and Shawn Porter 26-2-1 (16) into the mix as well. The only problem for Arum is that he doesn’t get anything in return if Pacquiao were to lose to any of these fighters. If Arum had implicit confidence in Pacquiao, he could try to line up Broner or Garcia and then fight Crawford.  That represents one and perhaps two big paydays for Arum to take his cut before cashing out against Crawford…..but it’s a pretty sizable risk and Bob knows it!

I say if Arum makes Pacquiao vs. Crawford, he’s cashing out with Manny.  Crawford is all wrong for Pacquiao now and would probably out-box Pacquiao in the same manner in which Mayweather did a little over 14 months ago — something that hasn’t escaped Arum.

There’s no other reason for Arum making Pacquiao-Crawford, because Manny is still a draw, but Arum no longer believes he’s a sure bet over the elite fighters between 140-147.  So he smartly wants to avoid the risk of his fighter, Pacquiao, losing to a fighter he doesn’t control.

Frank Lotierzo, can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com / Cashing Out On Manny

Cashing Out On Manny

COMMENTS

-deepwater2 :

Better to lose to a great prospect on the way out than to fight bums and drug suspended no hopers and laugh on the way to the bank. The great ones challenge themselves.


-oubobcat :

I do agree that if Arum makes the Crawford fight for Pacquiao next that he would be in deed cashing out essentially on Pacquaio. But I don't think that happens next. Arum is a businessman and still sees money to be made on Pacquiao. And wants to build Pacquiao-Crawford into a mega fight. So Pacquiao gets a lower risk opponent next and that probably will be Jessie Vargas. That will take place on November 5th. In the effort to then build Pacquiao-Crawford, I see Crawford taking a catch weight fight (maybe 145) against Timothy Bradley on HBO in December. Of course, the hope from Arum's point of view is both win (and Crawford with a Bradley wins seals fighter of the year) and build to something very big next spring/summer. Arum will cash out on Pacquiao with his new star Crawford but it won't happen this year.


-Radam G :

In the first place, Da Manny destroys Bud in a slugfest while destroying himself. So no way that there will be a Bud-Da Manny scrap in November. Da BobFather is not into c0ck fighting, but into dough -- long and short terms. Holla!


-stormcentre :

If;


A) Da Manny can get himself fully doped up before the fight.
B) Da Manny can also get USADA to make out like rigorous testing was done, and also sign all the papers to make it look like him is clean.
C) They can get Roach to do conjure up some "hocus pocus" catch-weight contractual magic, and spend months and months on YouTube justifying both it and a KO win.

Then . . . Just maybe . . . Da Manny might be able to steam roll through and out work Crawford; whom probably cant - yet - afford an elite doping program, even if he was that way inclined. And I don't suggest he is.
Storm. :) :)


-SouthPawFlo :

Manny Beats Bud at 147, what people gotta realize is that Manny P is "All Time Great" Good, and His Offensive Arsenal will overwhelm Crawford... Bud has looked great against Guys who would never even share a Ring with Manny (Delurme, Hank Lundy) Don't believe the Hype, Crawford is good but Manny P is Great, and it's a difference.... And Bud was just fighting at 135, no way he just jumps to 147 and can handle Manny, remember this Guy was Hurting 154lbers, and Crawford is not that hard to hit. Gamboa, and Lundy landed clean shots on him.... People are really quick to appoint someone as the next big thing, but trust me this Kid is not in Manny's Class.....


-amayseng :

Manny Beats Bud at 147, what people gotta realize is that Manny P is "All Time Great" Good, and His Offensive Arsenal will overwhelm Crawford... Bud has looked great against Guys who would never even share a Ring with Manny (Delurme, Hank Lundy) Don't believe the Hype, Crawford is good but Manny P is Great, and it's a difference.... And Bud was just fighting at 135, no way he just jumps to 147 and can handle Manny, remember this Guy was Hurting 154lbers, and Crawford is not that hard to hit. Gamboa, and Lundy landed clean shots on him.... People are really quick to appoint someone as the next big thing, but trust me this Kid is not in Manny's Class.....
Agreed completely, TC is on his way up but he is not there yet.


-deepwater2 :

If;


A) Da Manny can get himself fully doped up before the fight.
B) Da Manny can also get USADA to make out like rigorous testing was done, and also sign all the papers to make it look like him is clean.
C) They can get Roach to do conjure up some "hocus pocus" catch-weight contractual magic, and spend months and months on YouTube justifying both it and a KO win.

Then . . . Just maybe . . . Da Manny might be able to steam roll through and out work Crawford; whom probably cant - yet - afford an elite doping program, even if he was that way inclined. And I don't suggest he is.
Storm. :) :)
I can't believe manny was masking his drug use with the 750 ml flush. That 750ml flush is a tell tale sign of doping. Ban PAC for masking!


-Radam G :

I can't believe manny was masking his drug use with the 750 ml flush. That 750ml flush is a tell tale sign of doping. Ban PAC for masking!
I'm with cha! Those pugs in da nutrition know don't need to be on dat syet and hide it with a 750ml flush. And for all dat syet that Lil Floyd has been on, he could barely beat a one-armed pug. And he is scared to syet of stepping up and fighting another pug that don't need a 750ml flush to hide being on dat syet because that is a hookup of USADA and Lil Floyd and his whole stable who have had about 70 percent of the pugs caught all dirty up with roids and all types of PEDs. Three g, as da Manny, has always been as clean as a whistle. Lil Floyd will never chance a scrap with 3g, but he is getting edgy in rematching with a healthy PacMan. Holla!


-stormcentre :

I can't believe manny was masking his drug use with the 750 ml flush. That 750ml flush is a tell tale sign of doping. Ban PAC for masking!
Yep, he's a naughty boy isn't he? Glad you see the light finally. Pac should have declared the flush like Floyd did and not jumped at that Toradol with a dodgy "script". :) Finally, can you please be careful with PacSupport posts, as failing to do can gives free spirited Donkeys hope that the rebellion is back in full swing. Love it !!! Love ya
Deeply.
Storm. :) :)


-stormcentre :

Manny Beats Bud at 147, what people gotta realize is that Manny P is "All Time Great" Good, and His Offensive Arsenal will overwhelm Crawford... Bud has looked great against Guys who would never even share a Ring with Manny (Delurme, Hank Lundy) Don't believe the Hype, Crawford is good but Manny P is Great, and it's a difference.... And Bud was just fighting at 135, no way he just jumps to 147 and can handle Manny, remember this Guy was Hurting 154lbers, and Crawford is not that hard to hit. Gamboa, and Lundy landed clean shots on him.... People are really quick to appoint someone as the next big thing, but trust me this Kid is not in Manny's Class.....
Yep, (within reason) pretty much agree SPF.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?272163105-Is-Mayweather-Crawford-Possible&p=101095&viewfull=1#post101095 But (for me) my caveats are as stated above in post #5, and also if Pac can get himself in top shape. Right now, in a gym (and assuming Pac is not in top shape), Crawford (who has just peaked) probably wipes the floor with Pac. And, it sounds like Roach knows it too. But, if it is the Pac that fought Cotto, or perhaps the one that fought Bradley the first time, or something close to those 2 versions; and the weight division is welterweight or higher; then - even though Pac is nowhere near as fundamentally/technically talented as Gamboa - Crawford could have a lot on his hands if he fights Pac.
Storm. :) :) :)


-stormcentre :

I'm with cha! Those pugs in da nutrition know don't need to be on dat syet and hide it with a 750ml flush. And for all dat syet that Lil Floyd has been on, he could barely beat a one-armed pug. And he is scared to syet of stepping up and fighting another pug that don't need a 750ml flush to hide being on dat syet because that is a hookup of USADA and Lil Floyd and his whole stable who have had about 70 percent of the pugs caught all dirty up with roids and all types of PEDs. Three g, as da Manny, has always been as clean as a whistle. Lil Floyd will never chance a scrap with 3g, but he is getting edgy in rematching with a healthy PacMan. Holla!
Good - straight up - post Random. Nothing in there that you can't explain in detail and/or that continues with the addiction2fiction. But if I can ask, please go easy on us slow folk that are as not "in the know" as you. After all, we don't know every "Academia-Iota of boxing" like you . . .


->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=101013&viewfull=1#post101013

So, really, it's an unfair contest. Finally, 2 points;


A) It's a shame (as you call for Floyd to come out of retirement and fight Triple) Manny couldn't get the in-prime and looking fabulous against top competition Broner for his next fight. As that would have "really" shown how elite Pac is - whilst also constituting two top class athletes in their prime fighting it out.
B) As Floyd runs from fighting Triple and also as Triple basks in your (highly reliable and non biased) above-mentioned anti-doping endorsements; the good news is that Floyd's loss can be both yours and Pac's monster gains. You see, since you're in Pac's entourage and since Pac and Floyd have competed in the same weight; you can - at the next PacEntourageConference and as you wear your Fedora hat - easily use your proven "DoubleWorldChampion" status to convince Pac to fight Triple. This would be the ultimate humiliation for Floyd. And it would also be a good way to prove yourself and your claims; including those pertaining to Manny being clean. Additionally, it would show everyone that you are not afraid to (take out Pac's plums, and) put your "Money" where your mouth is. Pac V Triple I say; cause Floyd's too scared and we all know it. And - at the next PacEntourageConference and as you wear your that Fedora hat you wore when you where with Da Manny just before Floyd beat him - perhaps you can also lobby the PacCleanAsDaWhistle to get the fight made with the stipulation of 3 months of solid anti-doping beforehand . . . Because;


A) Not only will doing do embarrass Floyd (and therefore assist to heal the PacLoss pain).
B) But also, the anti doping stipulation will also mean nothing . . . . . According to Brother Voodoo.



So how about magical (glacial multi-level marketed milk) miracle maker? You interested in using all your "gifts" and "qualifications" for the purpose of cheerleading hard for Pac V Triple? Anyone? Any Queen? Me, I remain certain that the idea will gain enormous traction within a day or two here, if in not less time. As I know PacQueens are an evenhanded lot and not simply a group gathering together (and rebelling?) solely due to and/or motivated by a MayPacLoss. Ahh . . you gotta laugh, and I hope yawl are. Best wishes,
Storm. :) :) :)


-stormcentre :

I'm with cha! Those pugs in da nutrition know don't need to be on dat syet and hide it with a 750ml flush. And for all dat syet that Lil Floyd has been on, he could barely beat a one-armed pug. And he is scared to syet of stepping up and fighting another pug that don't need a 750ml flush to hide being on dat syet because that is a hookup of USADA and Lil Floyd and his whole stable who have had about 70 percent of the pugs caught all dirty up with roids and all types of PEDs. Three g, as da Manny, has always been as clean as a whistle. Lil Floyd will never chance a scrap with 3g, but he is getting edgy in rematching with a healthy PacMan. Holla!
Good - straight up - post Random. Nothing in there that you can't explain in detail and/or that continues with the addiction2fiction. But if I can ask, please go easy on us slow folk that are as not "in the know" as you. After all, we don't know every "Academia-Iota of boxing" like you . . .


->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=101013&viewfull=1#post101013

So, really, it's an unfair contest. Finally, 2 points;


A) It's a shame (as you call for Floyd to come out of retirement and fight Triple) Manny couldn't get the in-prime and looking fabulous against top competition Broner for his next fight. As that would have "really" shown how elite Pac is - whilst also constituting two top class athletes in their prime fighting it out.
B) As Floyd runs from fighting Triple and also as Triple basks in your (highly reliable and non biased) above-mentioned anti-doping endorsements; the good news is that Floyd's loss can be both yours and Pac's monster gains. You see, since you're in Pac's entourage and since Pac and Floyd have competed in the same weight; you can - at the next PacEntourageConference and as you wear your Fedora hat - easily use your proven "DoubleWorldChampion" status to convince Pac to fight Triple. This would be the ultimate humiliation for Floyd. And it would also be a good way to prove yourself and your claims; including those pertaining to Manny being clean. Additionally, it would show everyone that you are not afraid to (take out Pac's plums, and) put your "Money" where your mouth is. Pac V Triple I say; cause Floyd's too scared and we all know it. And - at the next PacEntourageConference and as you wear your that Fedora hat you wore when you where with Da Manny just before Floyd beat him - perhaps you can also lobby the PacCleanAsDaWhistle to get the fight made with the stipulation of 3 months of solid anti-doping beforehand . . . Because;


A) Not only will doing do embarrass Floyd (and therefore assist to heal the PacLoss pain).
B) But also, the anti doping stipulation will also mean nothing . . . . . According to Brother Voodoo.



So how about it magical (glacial multi-level marketed milk) miracle maker? You interested in using all your "gifts" and "qualifications" for the purpose of cheerleading hard for Pac V Triple? Anyone? Any Queen? Me, I remain certain that the idea will gain enormous traction within a day or two here, if not in less time. As I know PacQueens are an evenhanded lot and not simply a group gathering together (and rebelling?) solely due to and/or motivated by a MayPacLoss. Ahh . . you gotta laugh, and I hope yawl are. Best wishes,
Storm. :) :) :)