Boxing: Sanctuary from a Country on the Edge

“You go to an amateur tournament… You get an inner-city, really rough, hard-core black kid, and you get a white kid from Minnesota. Maybe they never even say ‘hi’ to each other all week. But they fight each other, and after the fight, they hug.”—John Scully

I wish people would love everybody else the way they love me. It would be a better world– Muhammad Ali

 

Boxing: Sanctuary from a Country on the Edge

From Chicago to San Bernardino to Baltimore to Orlando to Baton Rouge to Minnesota and now to Dallas (and many places in between) , a series of horrific and deadly events have forced an introspective look at just where our country is right now in the grand scheme of things. These horrible things are real; they happened.  Now men are dead including five Police officers.  America is mourning.

A travelling President Barack Obama said the reaction of the majority of Americans, protesters and police to the week’s trio of tragedies showed a nation remarkably unified despite some views it is polarized on racial issues. “There is sorrow, there is anger and there is confusion about next steps but there is unity in that this is not how we want our communities to operate, this is not who we want to be as Americans And that serves as the basis for us being able to move forward in a constructive and positive way.”   I hope and pray he is right.

Like most, I am trying to analyze what this all means, but while doing so, boxing thankfully has been one of my safe havens. When immersed in Boxing (whether as a spectator or writer), my feelings off uncertainty, helplessness, and fear are mitigated and are not as great as they probably should be. However, it’s difficult to misperceive a dangerous edge that seems to exist right now—one that is predicated on racial issues.

Boxing doesn’t have that edge and is essentially colorblind. While those behind the scenes of boxing often use issues of color and ethnicity as a means to generate more cash, it’s never really about race or ethnic differences; it’s always about cash. In this regard, it should not be taken as seriously as it sometimes is. Black vs. White often is designed to equal green. The “Eastern Euros have arrived,” will likely be replaced by something else, maybe “Here Comes the Chinese,” and while the paradigm might change and the normal might become “new” along with a changing business model of more bangs for the buck, the essence of the thing won’t change anytime soon.

Boxing—warts and all– is a safe place for me to be without having to worry, for the most part, about what I say. No prissiness or self-righteousness. No phony artifice, no plastic smiles or soft and clammy handshakes; There is no “right” way to behave. You either love this thing or hate it, but if you think it’s a barbarian ritual, you had best tread with caution. There is no political correctness here.  It’s the boxers and cornermen who interest me the most. No ultra-fragility or overly sensitive psyches or sucking up—except among a few journalists. The sport is not a meeting of the Rotary or Kiwanis and it hardly shackles me with corporate handcuffs.

Sure, it’s far from perfect and I am disheartened by a sport that has never been all that stringent in its application of scruples or morality, has made only halfhearted efforts to provide benefits for its combatants, provides a platform for the malfeasance of unqualified judges, celebrates out-of-shape referees who allow fights to last dangerously long, and grants awards to writers who insult the intelligence of serious fans. I am especially appalled by supposedly grown-up “journalists” who display petty jealousies and engage in cyber catfights and shameless sycophantic behavior overlooking the fact that the boxers are the primary story and that journalists exist only because humble and accommodating boxers are happy to talk to them and allow them entry into their lives. However, given what is going on these days outside of boxing, these shortcomings pale in the scheme of things.

Yes, I know all too well there is a dark place in boxing. Reduced to its essence, a fight involves two combatants that engage with knowledge of deadly risk and anticipation of high reward. It’s about swallowing blood, shaking off the sting of a shot to the jaw, or absorbing a lethal hook to the liver with its deferred and paralyzing result. It’s waking up the next morning with the nausea that comes from a dangerously concussive head shot. Worse of all, it’s too many who have never woke up the next morning. As the legendary Ralph Wiley wrote in “Serenity”, “Boxing was on the one hand barbaric, unconscionable, out of place in modern society. But then, so are war, racism, poverty, and pro football. Men died boxing, yet there was nobility in defending oneself.”

In the end, boxing is hardcore, but the violence here is controlled and not generated by external and far more edgy variables. Boxing in the ring is genuine; it’s my safe place and, given the nature of this past, never before have I cherished the sport so much.

Ted Sares is one of the world’s oldest active power lifters and holds several records. He enjoys writing about boxing.

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COMMENTS

-Radam G :

Great copy. Holla!


-brownsugar :

Thanks for printing something with substance Ted... over the past months I've had much communication (over social media) with police from my hometown and around the country. I get these contacts usually from feeds on my fb were my responses won't show unless you can see the original page. This morning a black cop sent out a heartfelt plea on Facebook that one of my face book "friends" shared in my small group, which consists of about 300 of us who went to the same highschool....it was A plea to pray for the police "we are under attack" he said. In response I posted: the police aren't under attack, the use of unnecessary extreme brutality and deadly force is whats under attack. My prayer is that the police can evolve and modify their behavior of violence and denial. This culture of abuse of authority has gone unchecked since the wild west. It seems like too many violent psychopaths are making their way into the force... and the much publicized unity between officers causes most cops to simply shut their eyes and play the blame game.. oops he wiggled his toe, shoot him! Don't let the media tell you it's black against white. Its really about inept police and heavily biased policework vs society. The violent culture of taking the law into their own hands has become visible to the public in ways that would have been impossible ten years ago. You can find videos of cops shooting victims and planting guns on the bodies. After seeing over 30 or so black men and women literally snuffed on camera for jaywalking, selling bootleg CD's or getting into discussion with the "wrong" cop or just flat out murdered for no justifiable reason....of course the way police do business is going to come under scrutiny and attack, as well it should. There are too many unqualified people on the force who don't know what it means to serve and protect. They have become so jaded that there is literally a video of a cop killing every day. The excuses have run out. In Europe the amount of deaths caused by police is a tiny fraction of what the "Great USA" sees on a daily basis. Yes Black Lives do matter, and Police lived matter too.... nobody wants cops to die needlessly but its time to reform the culture which had grown rotten to the core. My grandson stole a bottle of wine on a dare and was busted at Walmart last year...a white cop brought him home to me and refused to file charges....I used to be young too he said...I shook his hand and said thank you and I haven't had any more trouble (except the time we fought over a personal issue...and I got a unanimous decision) So don't me black folks hate white folks, we just want a fair legal system that treats us like everyone else... I salute all the real cops out there who do their jobs with skill and compassion.


-brownsugar :

And by the way both of my grandsons are on the honor roll every semester and one has had perfect attendance and was nominated "student of the year twice" .


-FrankinDallas :

There is so much racist hate on some boxing forums, on the online Fox News comments pages, on World Star Hip Hop for some examples....that I am seriously in doubt that we can avoid 1960's type protests. And I mean hate from both sides. I live in Dallas so I am up on the situation here, but the night of the 5 Dallas police killings 40 people were blown up in Baghdad and 296 people the night before in that same city, so lets put it into perspective. I have no answers. And I don't think simply saying "love each other" will do any good. We need to go a year without any untrained or poorly trained cops killing an innocent person, and how about going one year without any children getting shot to death in Chicago? Until either or both of those things happens we are well and truly screwed.


-Kid Blast :

Thanks for printing something with substance Ted... over the past months I've had much communication (over social media) with police from my hometown and around the country. I get these contacts usually from feeds on my fb were my responses won't show unless you can see the original page. This morning a black cop sent out a heartfelt plea on Facebook that one of my face book "friends" shared in my small group, which consists of about 300 of us who went to the same highschool....it was A plea to pray for the police "we are under attack" he said. In response I posted: the police aren't under attack, the use of unnecessary extreme brutality and deadly force is whats under attack. My prayer is that the police can evolve and modify their behavior of violence and denial. This culture of abuse of authority has gone unchecked since the wild west. It seems like too many violent psychopaths are making their way into the force... and the much publicized unity between officers causes most cops to simply shut their eyes and play the blame game.. oops he wiggled his toe, shoot him! Don't let the media tell you it's black against white. Its really about inept police and heavily biased policework vs society. The violent culture of taking the law into their own hands has become visible to the public in ways that would have been impossible ten years ago. You can find videos of cops shooting victims and planting guns on the bodies. After seeing over 30 or so black men and women literally snuffed on camera for jaywalking, selling bootleg CD's or getting into discussion with the "wrong" cop or just flat out murdered for no justifiable reason....of course the way police do business is going to come under scrutiny and attack, as well it should. There are too many unqualified people on the force who don't know what it means to serve and protect. They have become so jaded that there is literally a video of a cop killing every day. The excuses have run out. In Europe the amount of deaths caused by police is a tiny fraction of what the "Great USA" sees on a daily basis. Yes Black Lives do matter, and Police lived matter too.... nobody wants cops to die needlessly but its time to reform the culture which had grown rotten to the core. My grandson stole a bottle of wine on a dare and was busted at Walmart last year...a white cop brought him home to me and refused to file charges....I used to be young too he said...I shook his hand and said thank you and I haven't had any more trouble (except the time we fought over a personal issue...and I got a unanimous decision) So don't me black folks hate white folks, we just want a fair legal system that treats us like everyone else... I salute all the real cops out there who do their jobs with skill and compassion.
I salute your fine post. Thanks BS.


-Kid Blast :

There is so much racist hate on some boxing forums, on the online Fox News comments pages, on World Star Hip Hop for some examples....that I am seriously in doubt that we can avoid 1960's type protests. And I mean hate from both sides. I live in Dallas so I am up on the situation here, but the night of the 5 Dallas police killings 40 people were blown up in Baghdad and 296 people the night before in that same city, so lets put it into perspective. I have no answers. And I don't think simply saying "love each other" will do any good. We need to go a year without any untrained or poorly trained cops killing an innocent person, and how about going one year without any children getting shot to death in Chicago? Until either or both of those things happens we are well and truly screwed.
Facebook contains things that I cannot believe. Simply horrible and hateful. Some of the sites are also bad. TSS maintains a civil Forum thank God. I think a lot of this stuff has been going on for a long time but now that we have instant electronic communication and electronic social media and smart phones, the immediacy of the events are intensified tremendously. Just an opinion. I grew up in Chicago and I could relate stories that would make your eyes pop out, but their is nothing to gain by doing that except to perpetuate hate. Thing is, you go to a boxing match and you tend to escape from the hate. Everyone is pretty much OK in a boxing arena except if Bowe is fighting Golata.


-Kid Blast :

Great copy. Holla!
Thank you


-Radam G :

There is so much racist hate on some boxing forums, on the online Fox News comments pages, on World Star Hip Hop for some examples....that I am seriously in doubt that we can avoid 1960's type protests. And I mean hate from both sides. I live in Dallas so I am up on the situation here, but the night of the 5 Dallas police killings 40 people were blown up in Baghdad and 296 people the night before in that same city, so lets put it into perspective. I have no answers. And I don't think simply saying "love each other" will do any good. We need to go a year without any untrained or poorly trained cops killing an innocent person, and how about going one year without any children getting shot to death in Chicago? Until either or both of those things happens we are well and truly screwed.
I was just in Dallas at a U.S. national boxing tournament. I missed the riot by a couple of days. I'm back in the P-Islands now. What goes on in the states is unheard of here, except on Luzon where tourists -- many ratchet -- come, and Mindanao and Sulu where wacko terrorists roam. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

The communists always needs violence. Most of these racial incidents are being hyped up to divide the country and shut down free speech. If the government gave a damn then Chicago wouldn't have 100's of shootings every weekend. Chicago has the most restrictive gun policies on record. Whether it's rich vs poor, one color vs another color, the haves vs the have nots, it is always used to justify more power for the ruling class. Like I said last year, there will be no us presidential election this year due to the globalists/communist unleashing violence on the country. If anyone wants to complain about racism in the USA then go move to Sudan, you will promptly be made a slave. Let us know how it really is. The new black panthers are calling for a country within a country. Anyone know of the country Liberia? It was set up for freed US slaves. What was one of the first things the newly freed slaves did? Enslave the local population. Evil is evil no matter what pigment of a persons skin. Freeway Ricky Ross broke it down a long time ago. The private prison population must be profitable. No better way to make low level criminals popular through urban music. There will be no elections.


-brownsugar :

Thanks man, when I dialogue the the police they always ask me if I'm a communist and want to talk about terrorism. If this issue is treated like a real problem it can be resolved, but not by "can't we all just get along" speeches like FD said, real reform is needed.


-deepwater2 :

I was just in Dallas at a U.S. national boxing tournament. I missed the riot by a couple of days. I'm back in the P-Islands now. What goes on in the states is unheard of here, except on Luzon where tourists -- many ratchet -- come, and Mindanao and Sulu where wacko terrorists roam. Holla!
The punisher prez of the Philippines is killing every drug dealer and addict and giving out medals.


-deepwater2 :

Thanks man, when I dialogue the the police they always ask me if I'm a communist and want to talk about terrorism. If this issue is treated like a real problem it can be resolved, but not by "can't we all just get along" speeches like FD said, real reform is needed.
Black lives matter is a communist front group.


-Radam G :

The punisher prez of the Philippines is killing every drug dealer and addict and giving out medals.
That stuff is on Luzon. The P-Islands have 7,700 Islands plus. And we have about 12 major regions. Plus we are separated by languages and traditions. Holla!


-brownsugar :

Black lives matter is a communist front group.
Lol... I heard petitions were being circulated to call it a terrorist group. I just want to be in "the guy who wants justice group"


-dollar bond :

Bull, you could have titled this:Boxing:A Sanctuary from a Country on Tender Hooks


-deepwater2 :

Lol... I heard petitions were being circulated to call it a terrorist group. I just want to be in "the guy who wants justice group"
I'm in that group! Blm was started by 2 white communists. It is now funded by global communists. Some cops make terrible mistakes. Some should be persecuted. That cd guy had an illegal midnight special gun and threatened some person with it. A cop can't wrestle on the ground against a felon with a loaded gun. Did the midnight special go off during the struggle. Let's see what the investigation says. The cd guy is no angel, he went to prison for raping a 14 year old and he knew by having that pistol he would go back for years if caught. A lot more to that story then just a guy selling CDs in the lot. Many of this stories are light on facts and high on emotion and anger.


-miguel1 :

Well guys, it has been a while since we had a thread catch fire, so kudos to Ted! Welcome aboard Frankie in Dallas! Im not much on politics and social media, and I try to keep it simple. "No Lives Matter". In the end we need a lot more love and boxing in the world, as it has always been, and as it shall always be.


-brownsugar :

I'm in that group! Blm was started by 2 white communists. It is now funded by global communists. Some cops make terrible mistakes. Some should be persecuted. That cd guy had an illegal midnight special gun and threatened some person with it. A cop can't wrestle on the ground against a felon with a loaded gun. Did the midnight special go off during the struggle. Let's see what the investigation says. The cd guy is no angel, he went to prison for raping a 14 year old and he knew by having that pistol he would go back for years if caught. A lot more to that story then just a guy selling CDs in the lot. Many of this stories are light on facts and high on emotion and anger.
I know of no central command, organization or leadership for black lived matter and it really isn't a major concern of mine even if Satan himself funded it. The days of the police taking lives and abusing authority are numbered. If it is a real organization then its being handled poorly and is not effective.. We had a protest downtown this weekend with no incident.... I didn't even know about until Monday morning. This is an issue that needs addressing with immediate priority and placing the blame on the victim may work a few times but when you see murder by cop as the reason for death on a regular basis, its time to stop using the same justification. The police had the CD guy on the ground and restrained and shot him point blank. No justificstion , I don't care if he raped his own mother and was a regular degenerate... execution by police is not a justifiable action or legal process. People should be angry. That wasn't right under any circumstance, but wait there's more...3 more people were killed by police just days after this incident. With no apparent justification or reasonable circumstances. Only in America, this is a valid issue that needs to be accessed so I must respectfully agree to disagree with your recent comment.Deep... If the police can get away with this...even though it' on camera, I shoulder to think what they have gotten away with in the dark before the camera phone era.


-deepwater2 :

That cd guy video is hard to watch but he was not restrained. Did his gun go off during the struggle?


-Kid Blast :

Bull, you could have titled this:Boxing:A Sanctuary from a Country on Tender Hooks
Hahaha, I played with a few different tiled. A Sanctuary from a Tough Week, A Sanctuary from a World on edge, and settled on this The former top cop in Washington and Philadelphia, Charles Ramsey, said Sunday that the country is ?sitting on a powder keg? "...you?ve got too many people that are now with this extreme rhetoric and that is just not good for anybody. We need to come together, we need thoughtful people to sit down and engage in dialogue, but actually come up with solutions, not just finger-pointing and playing the blame game. That?s not helpful to anybody at all.? He added: ?It is a very, very volatile time that we?re in right now.?
->https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/10/former-philadelphia-police-commissioner-said-america-is-sitting-on-a-powder-keg/?utm_term=.01ed07a02c78&wpisrc=nl_az_most


-The Good Doctor :

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to 1990................. Black people have been screaming (and I mean screaming) about this for 25 years with almost no real ear listening. People though NWA was extreme and Chuck D was some sort of Black Nationalist. Them dudes were storytellers and truth purveyors. What is even more bothersome is that rather than saying that murdering a human being is at a very minimum an extreme last resort at anytime, when it comes to us, there is this instant rush to judge their character and almost in a ridiculous non-sense fashion try to justify the killing because they may or may not have been a bad person. To quote one of my favorite comedians, Lewis Black: "There has to come a time when everyone looks at a piece of footage and just agrees on what the **** happened......... and most of the time it ain't that ****ing hard to see" I am of reasonable mind here............Police are shooting and sometimes unjustifiably killing other races including whites too............95% of police officers are good guys just trying to protect and serve people but the media will never paint that picture..........that in the grand scheme of things, police shootings account for less than 5% of all gun related violence......... However there are two things that must be answered: -Why is there often so little justice in terms of convictions when it comes to us? I don't have an answer. -Why is you only see us? For that I do have an answer.........It is because televising the killing of black people is good for ratings. (Yep, I said it) Uncomfortable to say but its true. It injects violence, controversy, and negativity in which this country has a severe eye addiction. You then sprinkle in race and hatred and you have ratings gold.


-brownsugar :

The victim is being held still while the police officer unholsters his weapon, presses it against his body and fires. Its one of many videos of excessive force that can easily be found ... and one of several from last week alone. This is a police culture problem. No other country is this reckless amongst the world's major powers.


-Kid Blast :

The victim is being held still while the police officer unholsters his weapon, presses it against his body and fires. Its one of many videos of excessive force that can easily be found ... and one of several from last week alone. This is a police culture problem. No other country is this reckless amongst the world's major powers.
Maybe South Africa in certain regions.


-deepwater2 :

The cd guy, with the loaded illegal gun, was tazed and still had his right arm free. It's disturbing to watch, watch the other videos out there. He was passive resisting with a loaded firearm. Did his gun go off while On The ground? Let's wait until the investigation concludes. It is being played on tv for ratings and to also create violence. Watching these guys die is sure to get people upset and react. If you want to talk about the local police departments being militarized I'm all for it. How about the federal branch of government taking over all police depts? Again. There will be no election.


-deepwater2 :

Over 100 people were shot in Chicago this weekend. Where is the outrage? Anyone going to Chicago to protest?


-Radam G :

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to 1990................. Black people have been screaming (and I mean screaming) about this for 25 years with almost no real ear listening. People though NWA was extreme and Chuck D was some sort of Black Nationalist. Them dudes were storytellers and truth purveyors. What is even more bothersome is that rather than saying that murdering a human being is at a very minimum an extreme last resort at anytime, when it comes to us, there is this instant rush to judge their character and almost in a ridiculous non-sense fashion try to justify the killing because they may or may not have been a bad person. To quote one of my favorite comedians, Lewis Black: "There has to come a time when everyone looks at a piece of footage and just agrees on what the **** happened......... and most of the time it ain't that ****ing hard to see" I am of reasonable mind here............Police are shooting and sometimes unjustifiably killing other races including whites too............95% of police officers are good guys just trying to protect and serve people but the media will never paint that picture..........that in the grand scheme of things, police shootings account for less than 5% of all gun related violence......... However there are two things that must be answered: -Why is there often so little justice in terms of convictions when it comes to us? I don't have an answer. -Why is you only see us? For that I do have an answer.........It is because televising the killing of black people is good for ratings. (Yep, I said it) Uncomfortable to say but its true. It injects violence, controversy, and negativity in which this country has a severe eye addiction. You then sprinkle in race and hatred and you have ratings gold.
Wow! You hit it on the dome, doc! Because in Idaho and Buffalo, New York, around the same time that two blacks got murdered by cops, cops choked dead a white truck driver and shot dead a motorcycle driver. You can see all of this on the Filipino, Japanese and Mexican channels on the U.S. mainland. But not on the American news channels. BTW, you can go on YouTube and see cops killing whites at twice the amount of blacks and Latinos. I am just glad that the two-percent of messed-up cops have not started in on Asians, except for Samoan and super dark-skinned Asians from India, Nepal and Aborigines from Australia, Yap, the Marshal Islands and the P-Islands. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

Over 100 people were shot in Chicago this weekend. Where is the outrage? Anyone going to Chicago to protest?
Nah.. The cd man armed felon had an illegal gun. The other guy wasn't pulled over for brake lights. He was pulled over because he looked like a guy on a video holding a store up. Always more to the story. But hey. I guess white cops are justing shooting any one they can look at.


-deepwater2 :

The cops do kill whites much more. That 19 year old kid was laying on the floor the same way the cd guy was when he was killed. The country has a police brutality problem across the board.


-Kid Blast :

Someone just e-mailed me this: "music is the great equalizer… even more than sports. If you’re a great player you’re a great player. PERIOD. And audiences like good music, they don’t care who you are." Very true. So very true.


-brownsugar :

The cd guy, with the loaded illegal gun, was tazed and still had his right arm free. It's disturbing to watch, watch the other videos out there. He was passive resisting with a loaded firearm. Did his gun go off while On The ground? Let's wait until the investigation concludes. It is being played on tv for ratings and to also create violence. Watching these guys die is sure to get people upset and react. If you want to talk about the local police departments being militarized I'm all for it. How about the federal branch of government taking over all police depts? Again. There will be no election.
His gun was found in his pocket Deep after he was killed by 6 rounds at point blank range. One 357 round can make a hole the size of a babies fist upon exiting and the bullets hit his upper toro. Is that called subduing the suspect or an execution? But before I get lost in a heated rant, I'd like to pay my respects to the four policeman who were killed protecting the rights of the group who was protesting against them including the seven other wounded cops. I had a chance to look up the FRSO (Freedom Road Socialist Movement) The Communist group which is said to be manipulating the black population through the use of fear and perceived racial inequality. The information appears about half a dozen times in different formats but the same wording is used in each one of the sites even though its presented in a different format. The multiple listings on the article/home page gives the initial appearance of legitimacy but after reading the oft repeated terms "leftists" and "queers" along with many accusations that the group was part of a hidden conspiracy initiated by President Obama whose agenda is to destabilize the government through systematic racial turmoil was even too much for a conspiracy theorist like myself to give any validation to. I do agree with KB, you, and the Good Doc that hatemongers, media opportunists and political vermin are looking to forward their own agenda behind all the recent events. According to statistics (and believe me there are about a dozen different sets of numbers which are supported by their own dogma depending upon the source). More Caucasion men are killed by police than Black men. Whites make up approximately 62% of the population while Blacks comprise approximately 13%, but black men are killed at a significantly higher proportion and black men have a 5 times greater risk of being fatally shot per encounter Its understood that the police have a tough job, I remember many years ago when I moved into my 3rd apartment I called the police and the narctical squad over fifty times to remove an entrenched group of dope peddlers who used my building as a nexus point to conduct their seedy business. It was so bad I pretended to be a detective to keep the whores and strippers from knocking on the door to use my restroom, it was when they started pissing in the hallways that I started secretly calling the police. The clean up took a whole summer and I'm forever in their graditute. But all of these red Herrings such as the dislike of the Black Lives Matters movement......the much anticipated impending race wars which black Americans couldn't survive two weeks before being starved into submission.... the communist instigators trying to usurp control over our democracy. ... and finally the race baiting on social media. The police culture is in need of a serious overhaul. There has to be more transparency and less interferrence allowed due to officers being permitted to obscure investigations and punitive measures because of the culture to cover each others mistakes during less than flattering situations. I don't know of any person black or white who wants to share their $30.00 an hour paycheck with someone making 11.00 at MacDonalds because they embrace the communist values of the FRSO,.... or because anyone wants to enlist in another civil war, I think improvements in law enforcement are being implemented slowly but surely. the legal process will eventually prevail... If not I'm moving to Canada.


-JohnnyTango :

Nice read.


-Kid Blast :

Nice read.
Thanks mate


-The Good Doctor :

Over 100 people were shot in Chicago this weekend. Where is the outrage? Anyone going to Chicago to protest?
Great message, however there is some nuance here. First let me say, there are tons of people in Chicago doing major work to curtail the violence. I know a few and have met some of the people they work with. The outrage there and protesting there is so constant that it has become SOP. As for your actual quote, the difference is this. While all the deaths are uncalled for, tragic and senseless, they are not at the hands of people who are charged, trained, and expected to handle these situations with murder unless absolutely positively necessary. The irresponsible people who cause this irreparable damage to families and communities are not the ones looked to as the people who can rise above the fray even in the most stringent of situations and only use there firearm when absolutely necessary. Simply put, Police are supposed to be better people than us. Fair or unfair that's what it is and they know it going in. By the way, the assistant Deputy of a large county in my state told me that. Again I say, most police are not great, they are awesome. However, because they are charged with a grand responsibility of protecting us, their margin of error is infintesimal. Police are allowed mistakes, but not with this frequency, not this suspiciously, and not in this manner. Add to that the fact that history has shown us these mistakes go largely unpunished.


-Kid Blast :

We’re asking cops to do too much in this country” said Chief Brown. of Dallas Check out the context:
->http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11/dallas-police-chief-were-asking-cops-to-do-too-much-in-this-country/


-Radam G :

We?re asking cops to do too much in this country? said Chief Brown. of Dallas Check out the context:
->http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11/dallas-police-chief-were-asking-cops-to-do-too-much-in-this-country/
I agree with the head cop of Big City D. What happened to the Texas National Guards? Every state once called up its national guards to keep the peace for rallies, marches and civil demonstrations. Cops are not trained or armed for that type of stuff, especially when a disturbed, sick shooter go off. Back in the day, when Rodney Kill got smashed up by rude and rogue cops that were found innocent, Cali head cop, the late Daryl Gates pull his police boys back, so the Cali National Guard came in to keep order. And that is how it suppose to roll! Holla!


-brownsugar :

We’re asking cops to do too much in this country” said Chief Brown. of Dallas Check out the context:
->http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11/dallas-police-chief-were-asking-cops-to-do-too-much-in-this-country/
Thanks for finding this gem Ted. You probably didn't have the same interpretation of this vid that I did but there is certainly no negativity cast your way. This is the same method of deflection and non accountability that the municipal police, public relations department has used since Travan Martin was killed after being stalked by the deranged Zimmerman. They put up an elite Black puppet in full officer dress, accessorized with medals, and pins of distinguished service to inform the black community that its their fault. Its similar to when an abusive husband comes home and begins beating up his wife because of some inner rage that he can't control and when it's over he blames his wife for making him beat her because she's so fat and ugly. The chief casually expounds upon the topic that the police are overworked because 70% of the black women in his jurisdiction give birth to fatherless bastards who overwork his officers due to their lack of home training .....in addition to their extracurricular dog catching responsibilities...an other miscellaneous duties (I'm paraphrasing) So at the end of the day the police just gotta bust a cap in somebody's arse to work out the stress. But its not their fault, its the communities fault. The fatherless rationality doesnt even have a place in this conversation. The chief's argument doesn't hold water. Cops don't just shoot people, they empty whole clips into unarmed people like they're playing "Call of Duty" Steve Jobs the cofounder of Microsoft and the founder of Apple was fatherless The great performer and guitar player Eric Clapton was fatherless LaBron James mother was a highschool teen when she gave birth to one of the greatest ball players in the history of the sport. And he was fatherless. Barack Obama's dad divorced his mother when he was a school aged youth so he was essentially fatherless. I can literally go on infinitely in this train of thought. The point is, race is not to blame, fatherless children cant be blamed although I can recognize the problem of youth who have to be the head of the household in their own home.... the problem is inadequate training, inadequate candidates, and a century old police culture of rationalization, denial and the refusal the address the root cause of why when two fat cops are literally sitting on top of a suspect, they have to shoot him four times in the chest and twice in the back. Alton Sterling may have been just only a bootlegging hustler but he left behind a wife and 3 kids. Someone said he was a sex offender because he had sex with a 14 year old. So was Morgan Freeman who got a job on Sesame Street then went on to play God with Jim Carey. In some jobs when you make a mistake it costs somebody some money. In law enforcement mistakes cost lives.


-stormcentre :

Wicked read Ted. All the other stuff (discussed in above posts) I really feel for. I have thought about it though, and I have a lot to say about it, but . . . Right now, I have to finish of my next post for the "Tally/List Of Un/Substantiated Posts" thread. As, I haven't finished with Random yet; there's still some meat left on them bones and also a few more porky pies to expose. And (truth be told, and this applies especially when it has been asked for) I think I do like the feel of that warm Voodoo azz hanging of the end of my boot. So, until the next above-mentioned post is off my plate, all you TSS cats will have to run with this without me; which I am sure yawl can do.
Storm. :) :) :)


-Kid Blast :

Thanks for finding this gem Ted. You probably didn't have the same interpretation of this vid that I did but there is certainly no negativity cast your way. This is the same method of deflection and non accountability that the municipal police, public relations department has used since Travan Martin was killed after being stalked by the deranged Zimmerman. They put up an elite Black puppet in full officer dress, accessorized with medals, and pins of distinguished service to inform the black community that its their fault. Its similar to when an abusive husband comes home and begins beating up his wife because of some inner rage that he can't control and when it's over he blames his wife for making him beat her because she's so fat and ugly. The chief casually expounds upon the topic that the police are overworked because 70% of the black women in his jurisdiction give birth to fatherless bastards who overwork his officers due to their lack of home training .....in addition to their extracurricular dog catching responsibilities...an other miscellaneous duties (I'm paraphrasing) So at the end of the day the police just gotta bust a cap in somebody's arse to work out the stress. But its not their fault, its the communities fault. The fatherless rationality doesnt even have a place in this conversation. The chief's argument doesn't hold water. Cops don't just shoot people, they empty whole clips into unarmed people like they're playing "Call of Duty" Steve Jobs the cofounder of Microsoft and the founder of Apple was fatherless The great performer and guitar player Eric Clapton was fatherless LaBron James mother was a highschool teen when she gave birth to one of the greatest ball players in the history of the sport. And he was fatherless. Barack Obama's dad divorced his mother when he was a school aged youth so he was essentially fatherless. I can literally go on infinitely in this train of thought. The point is, race is not to blame, fatherless children cant be blamed although I can recognize the problem of youth who have to be the head of the household in their own home.... the problem is inadequate training, inadequate candidates, and a century old police culture of rationalization, denial and the refusal the address the root cause of why when two fat cops are literally sitting on top of a suspect, they have to shoot him four times in the chest and twice in the back. Alton Sterling may have been just only a bootlegging hustler but he left behind a wife and 3 kids. Someone said he was a sex offender because he had sex with a 14 year old. So was Morgan Freeman who got a job on Sesame Street then went on to play God with Jim Carey. In some jobs when you make a mistake it costs somebody some money. In law enforcement mistakes cost lives.
Point taken, Sugar


-Kid Blast :

Wicked read Ted. All the other stuff (discussed in above posts) I really feel for. I have thought about it though, and I have a lot to say about it, but . . . Right now, I have to finish of my next post for the "Tally/List Of Un/Substantiated Posts" thread. As, I haven't finished with Random yet; there's still some meat left on them bones and also a few more porky pies to expose. And (truth be told, and this applies especially when it has been asked for) I think I do like the feel of that warm Voodoo azz hanging of the end of my boot. So, until the next above-mentioned post is off my plate, all you TSS cats will have to run with this without me; which I am sure yawl can do.
Storm. :) :) :)
Well thanks anyway, Storm. Glad you liked it.


-King Beef :

Great piece Blast.


-Kid Blast :

Great piece Blast.
Thanks Beef. Most appreciated


-Kid Blast :

Wow. I have an avatar. Thanks Miguel.


-Yogo :

Thanks Ted and BS for some inspirational type stuff. Top notch. I wonder if humanity will one day figure out that racism is bullshit, not in our lifetimes i'm afraid.


-Kid Blast :

Thanks Ted and BS for some inspirational type stuff. Top notch. I wonder if humanity will one day figure out that racism is bullshit, not in our lifetimes i'm afraid.
Thanks Yogo. Not in my lifetime but maybe in my granddaughter's. It's so divisive, disabling and debilitating, There is a senator from NJ named Corey Booker. I think he represents some future hope. If they ever did find at able to sit around and dialogue, he would be my first choice. Abdul Jabbar might be another. Maybe Bernie Sanders. After that, the pickins get might slim for me. I am going to try to craft a round table of people whom I feel fit the bill.


-Yogo :

It's people like yourself that keep it right Ted. All the best to you and your family. Always positive the majority of the time and we'll all keep on going fine. I'm sure the new avatar is a major cult figure in da USA but he's scaring the hell outta me...


-Kid Blast :

It's people like yourself that keep it right Ted. All the best to you and your family. Always positive the majority of the time and we'll all keep on going fine. I'm sure the new avatar is a major cult figure in da USA but he's scaring the hell outta me...
Jack Lambert was the starting middle linebacker for four Super Bowl-winning teams during an 11 year career with the Pittsburgh Steelers. A gentle soul off the field but he did a Jekyll and Hyde on the field and used intimidation. Enjoy:
->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EdmIB2kRFc Of course Butkus was my favorite.
->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJzEgMhU9_Q


-The Tijuana Kid :

This was a good read and thought provoking. This country is going down a very dangerous road. It all starts with respect. In everyday life, out on the streets, I see nothing but disrespect. Internet forums and social media is a cesspool of disrespect, ignorance and misinformation. People need to become informed and educated. They need to broaden their narrow minds and try to understand different point of views. Pointing fingers and refusing to accept responsibility seems to be a major problem in this country. And it starts with the leaders of the country and runs all the way down to the last man on the totem pole.


-Kid Blast :

This was a good read and thought provoking. This country is going down a very dangerous road. It all starts with respect. In everyday life, out on the streets, I see nothing but disrespect. Internet forums and social media is a cesspool of disrespect, ignorance and misinformation. People need to become informed and educated. They need to broaden their narrow minds and try to understand different point of views. Pointing fingers and refusing to accept responsibility seems to be a major problem in this country. And it starts with the leaders of the country and runs all the way down to the last man on the totem pole.
OMG, Welcome aboard matey. The old gang is slowly but steadily crossing over. And great post.


-Domenic :

Excellent article KB. I wasn't alive in 1968, but I've read much about it and the current era looks a whole lot like it, only worse, minus the assassinations. The United States is essentially imploding. The hatred and vitriol are so strong and raw and malignant between so many factions, domestic and abroad, that I think it's current incarnation is about to be KO'd or decisioned 120-108 three times. What do they say about history repeating itself? Well it's happening. Only this time, the powder keg is nuclear and on steroids. I won't get into the BLM issue, but I did watch the superb 7+ hour documentary on OJ Simpson that sheds much light on the black experience in America from the 60's to today. It's relevant viewing in the aftermath of Dallas.


-larueboenig :

?You go to an amateur tournament? You get an inner-city, really rough, hard-core black kid, and you get a white kid from Minnesota. Maybe they never even say ?hi? to each other all week. But they fight each other, and after the fight, they hug.??John Scully I wish people would love everybody else the way they love me. It would be a better world-- Muhammad Ali * Boxing: A Sanctuary from a Country on the Edge From Chicago to San Bernardino to Baltimore to Orlando to Baton Rouge to Minnesota and now to Dallas (and many places in between) , a series of horrific and deadly events have forced an introspective look at just where our country is right now in the grand scheme of things. These horrible things are real; they happened.* Now men are dead including five Police officers. *America is mourning. A travelling President Barack Obama said the reaction of the majority of Americans, protesters and police to the week?s trio of tragedies showed a nation remarkably unified despite some views it is polarized on racial issues. "There is sorrow, there is anger and there is confusion about next steps but there is unity in that this is not how we want our communities to operate, this is not who we want to be as Americans And that serves as the basis for us being able to move forward in a constructive and positive way."** I hope and pray he is right. Like most, I am trying to analyze what this all means, but while doing so, boxing thankfully has been one of my safe havens. When immersed in Boxing (whether as a spectator or writer), my feelings off uncertainty, helplessness, and fear are mitigated and are not as great as they probably should be. However, it?s difficult to misperceive a dangerous edge that seems to exist right now?one that is predicated on racial issues. Boxing doesn?t have that edge and is essentially colorblind. While those behind the scenes of boxing often use issues of color and ethnicity as a means to generate more cash, it?s never really about race or ethnic differences; it?s always about cash. In this regard, it should not be taken as seriously as it sometimes is. Black vs. White often is designed to equal green. The ?Eastern Euros have arrived,? will likely be replaced by something else, maybe ?Here Comes the Chinese,? and while the paradigm might change and the normal might become ?new? along with a changing business model of more bangs for the buck, the essence of the thing won?t change anytime soon. Boxing?warts and all-- is a safe place for me to be without having to worry, for the most part, about what I say. No prissiness or self-righteousness. No phony artifice, no plastic smiles or soft and clammy handshakes; There is no ?right? way to behave. You either love this thing or hate it, but if you think it?s a barbarian ritual, you had best tread with caution. There is no political correctness here.* It?s the boxers and cornermen who interest me the most. No ultra-fragility or overly sensitive psyches or sucking up?except among a few journalists. The sport is not a meeting of the Rotary or Kiwanis and it hardly shackles me with corporate handcuffs. Sure, it?s far from perfect and I am disheartened by a sport that has never been all that stringent in its application of scruples or morality, has made only halfhearted efforts to provide benefits for its combatants, provides a platform for the malfeasance of unqualified judges, celebrates out-of-shape referees who allow fights to last dangerously long, and grants awards to writers who insult the intelligence of serious fans. I am especially appalled by supposedly grown-up ?journalists? who display petty jealousies and engage in cyber catfights and shameless sycophantic behavior overlooking the fact that the boxers are the primary story and that journalists exist only because humble and accommodating boxers are happy to talk to them and allow them entry into their lives. However, given what is going on these days outside of boxing, these shortcomings pale in the scheme of things. Yes, I know all too well there is a dark place in boxing. Reduced to its essence, a fight involves two combatants that engage with knowledge of deadly risk and anticipation of high reward. It?s about swallowing blood, shaking off the sting of a shot to the jaw, or absorbing a lethal hook to the liver with its deferred and paralyzing result. It?s waking up the next morning with the nausea that comes from a dangerously concussive head shot. Worse of all, it?s too many who have never woke up the next morning. As the legendary Ralph Wiley wrote in ?Serenity?, ?Boxing was on the one hand barbaric, unconscionable, out of place in modern society. But then, so are war, racism, poverty, and pro football. Men died boxing, yet there was nobility in defending oneself.? In the end, boxing is hardcore, but the violence here is controlled and not generated by external and far more edgy variables. Boxing in the ring is genuine; it?s my safe place and, given the nature of this past, never before have I cherished the sport so much. Ted Sares is one of the world?s oldest active power lifters and holds several records. He enjoys writing about boxing. Boxing: A Sanctuary - Check out boxing news and features at [url=http://theboxingchannel.tv]The Boxing Channel.
None of this stuff seems to be an issue here in Las Vegas. What happens outside of the walls of the casinos doesn?t matter to the degenerate gamblers and boxing fans. Just saying


-larueboenig :

None of this stuff seems to be an issue here in Las Vegas. What happens outside of the walls of the casinos doesn’t matter to the degenerate gamblers and boxing fans. Just saying


-Radam G :

None of this stuff seems to be an issue here in Las Vegas. What happens outside of the walls of the casinos doesn’t matter to the degenerate gamblers and boxing fans. Just saying
I can see that Sin City point of view. Inside "the walls of the casino..." is enchantment like nobody's business. Holla!


-Kid Blast :

None of this stuff seems to be an issue here in Las Vegas. What happens outside of the walls of the casinos doesn’t matter to the degenerate gamblers and boxing fans. Just saying
That's why they are degenerate.


-Kid Blast :

Excellent article KB. I wasn't alive in 1968, but I've read much about it and the current era looks a whole lot like it, only worse, minus the assassinations. The United States is essentially imploding. The hatred and vitriol are so strong and raw and malignant between so many factions, domestic and abroad, that I think it's current incarnation is about to be KO'd or decisioned 120-108 three times. What do they say about history repeating itself? Well it's happening. Only this time, the powder keg is nuclear and on steroids. I won't get into the BLM issue, but I did watch the superb 7+ hour documentary on OJ Simpson that sheds much light on the black experience in America from the 60's to today. It's relevant viewing in the aftermath of Dallas.
Great perspective Dominic. The undertone of the OJ thing was very scary. The 60's post 63 were brutal in many different ways. After Camelot was destroyed, it was full tilt boogie.


-deepwater2 :

My dad went cross country for that hellhole convention in 68 and Cleveland will be much worse this time around. BLM is not organic and is a sophisticated communist front group.
->http://www.aim.org/special-report/reds-exploiting-blacks-the-roots-of-black-lives-matter/ Exploiting blacks to promote Marxist revolution is an old tactic. The late Larry Grathwohl, former FBI informant in the Weather Underground, understood from personal experience how white communists exploited blacks and other minority groups. He said that Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn regarded Barack Obama, whose political career they sponsored, as a tool?a puppet?to use against white America. Obama?s legacy at home will certainly include more racial division. BLM launched in 2013 with a Twitter hashtag, #BlackLivesMatter, after neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman was acquitted in the Trayvon Martin killing. Radical Left activists Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors and Opal Tometi claim credit for the slogan and hashtag. Following the Michael Brown shooting in August 2014, Dream Defenders, an organization led by Working Families Party (ACORN) activist and Occupy Wall Street anarchist Nelini Stamp, popularized the phrase ?Hands Up?Don?t Shoot!? which has since become BLM?s widely recognized slogan. Garza, Cullors and Tometi all work for front groups of the Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO), one of the four largest radical Left organizations in the country. The others are the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), and the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS). Nelini Stamp?s ACORN?now rebranded under a variety of different names?works with all four organizations, and Dream Defenders is backed by the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), the ACLU, the Southern Poverty Law Center and others. FRSO is a hereditary descendant of the New Communist Movement, which was inspired by Mao and the many communist revolutions throughout the world in the 1960s and 1970s. FRSO split into two separate groups in 1999, FRSO/Fight Back and FRSO/OSCL (Freedom Road Socialist Organization/Organizaci?n Socialista del Camino para la Libertad). Black Lives Matter and its founders are allied with the latter group. Future references to FRSO in this article refer to FRSO/OSCL. FRSO is comprised of dozens of groups. The radical Left model is based on alliances of many organizations that are working on separate issues but dedicated ultimately to the same thing: overthrowing our society in order to replace it with a hardcore socialist (read communist) one. The goal is to present the appearance of a formidable mass of organizations. Some are large, but many are little more than a website or Facebook page. When necessary, they can all come together to promote the cause du jour. The deaths of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and others were mere pretexts for socialist agitation. The real enemy is ?the system.? This is why the BLM crowd denies the facts of those cases. As Stamp has said, ?we are actually trying to change the capitalist system we have today because it?s not working for any of us.? BLM is one of many projects undertaken by the FRSO. Except for the website, blacklivesmatter.com, there is no actual organization. The website implicitly acknowledges this, describing #BlackLivesMatter as ?an online forum intended to build connections between Black people and our allies to fight anti-Black racism, to spark dialogue among Black people, and to facilitate the types of connections necessary to encourage social action and engagement.? FRSO membership is disproportionately represented by blacks, gays and women, and self-consciously emphasizes those issues. Garza, who penned a ?Herstory? of BLM, is a ?queer,? black veteran activist involved in numerous FRSO organizations. Her resum? includes: Special projects director, National Domestic Workers Alliance (NDWA) Executive Director, People Organized to Win Employment Rights (POWER) Board member, School of Unity and Liberation (SOUL) 2011 Board Chair, Right to the City Alliance (RTTC) Cullors describes herself as a ?working class, queer, black woman.? She claims the country killed her father, a drug addict. At a 2015 Netroots Nation conference, Cullors led chants shouting, ?If I die in police custody, burn everything down? rise the **** up! That is the only way motherfuckers like you will listen!? Cullors founded and directs Dignity and Power Now (DPN), which claims to seek ?dignity and power of incarcerated people, their families, and communities.? Cullors was trained by Eric Mann, a former Weather Underground leader who exhorts followers to become ?anti-racist, anti-imperialist? activists. Mann runs another FRSO front, the Labor/Community Strategy Center. Like most professional leftists, he makes good money?over $225,000 annually?living in ?the system? he advocates destroying. Tometi is the daughter of illegal aliens from Nigeria. While in college, she worked for the ACLU defending illegal aliens against ?vigilantes? opposed to illegal immigration. She is currently the executive director of Black Alliance for Just Immigration (BAJI).


-deepwater2 :

Intellectual Genealogy of Black Lives Matter “We must be ready to employ trickery, deceit, law-breaking, withholding and concealing truth… We can and must write in a language which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with us.”—Vladimir Lenin That quote from the Soviet Union’s first leader captures the entire essence of the Left’s strategy. No matter what the issue, no matter what the facts, the Left advances a relentless, hate-filled narrative that America is irredeemably evil and must be destroyed as soon as possible. The BLM movement is only the latest but perhaps most dangerous variant on this divisive theme.
Communists use language and psychology as weapons. Their constant vilification is a form of psychological terror. It puts America and Americans on trial. The verdict is always guilty. Facts don’t matter because the Left does not want to resolve the problems they complain about. They use those problems to agitate and provoke, hoping conflict becomes unavoidable—thereby creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Their hatred is tactical. Obama’s favorite Harvard professor Derrick Bell devised Critical Race Theory, which exemplifies Lenin’s strategy as applied to race. According to Discover the Networks: “Critical race theory contends that America is permanently racist to its core, and that consequently the nation’s legal structures are, by definition, racist and invalid … members of “oppressed” racial groups are entitled—in fact obligated—to determine for themselves which laws and traditions have merit and are worth observing…” Bell’s theory is in turn an innovation of Critical Theory—developed by philosophers of the communist Frankfurt School. The school was founded in Frankfurt, Germany in 1923. Its communist scholars fled Hitler’s Germany in the 1930s, relocating to Columbia Teachers College in New York. Critical Theory—which discredits all aspects of Western society—rapidly infected the minds of newly-minted college professors, who then spread its poison throughout the university system. We know it today as political correctness.


-Kid Blast :

I always viewed political correctness as being started, in large part, by HR people in the corporate world in the late 70's and then through the 80's Efficacy, sensitivity training, awareness seminars, etc. It it had enjoyed an organic development, it would have been fine, but when it was forced upon people by slick outside consultants who were paid handsomely, it just did not resonate with those of us who knew what was going on. It was bile-inducing but soon grabbed a foothold. Now Trump is using it as a campaign gambit and playing the hatred card. The entire thing makes me want to vomit because it is so phony all the way around--at least IMO it is because I had to suffer those slimy scamster-like consultants back in the day telling me how I had to behave. That was one thing and I could understand it and appreciate its value. Behavior is critical. But when they tried to get inside my head and tell me how to think, I blew my cork. That's when the approach went off the tracks in the corporate world. Behavior is one thing. One's inner beliefs that lead to that behavior is quite another. The morons didn't get this.


-Yogo :

I had no idea communism was still so feared on the other side of the pond. To be honest i wouldn't have thought those 'godamn Reds' would have much of a chance versus the fat greedy out of control Capitalist juggernaut of today's world. Where you have poverty and oppression you will always end up with wars and extreme ideology. That's never changed.


-Radam G :

I had no idea communism was still so feared on the other side of the pond. To be honest i wouldn't have thought those 'godamn Reds' would have much of a chance versus the fat greedy out of control Capitalist juggernaut of today's world. Where you have poverty and oppression you will always end up with wars and extreme ideology. That's never changed.
Poetically nice. When I start my poetry contest in name of the late, great GOAT Ali, I see that you will be at the top of the money chain. Holla!


-Kid Blast :

[IMG]http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=423&stc=1[/IMG] In a pitched battle, Wall Street Suits would destroy communist thugs 7 out of 7 days every week. . The suits are soulless sociopathic stone cold killers who take no enemies.


-deepwater2 :

I had no idea communism was still so feared on the other side of the pond. To be honest i wouldn't have thought those 'godamn Reds' would have much of a chance versus the fat greedy out of control Capitalist juggernaut of today's world. Where you have poverty and oppression you will always end up with wars and extreme ideology. That's never changed.
I wish this country was capitalist. Unfortunate, it is more crony capitalist. Communism is very in these days. It might be called something nicer but the ideology is the same. A quote from the past that is relevant today. M. Thatcher: An obvious socialist asked how she could defend policies that resulted in the gap between richest 10% and poorest 10% widening substantially. The poor were relatively less better off than the rich. How could she justify that? "All levels of income are better off than they were in 1979. But what the honorable member is saying is that
he would rather the poor were poorer provided the rich were less rich. That way you will never create the wealth for better social services as we have. And what a policy. Yes. He would rather have the poor poorer provided the rich were less rich. That is the Liberal (British Socialists) policy. Yes it came out. He didn?t intend it to but it did."


-deepwater2 :

[IMG]http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=423&stc=1[/IMG] In a pitched battle, Wall Street Suits would destroy communist thugs 7 out of 7 days every week. . The suits are soulless sociopathic stone cold killers who take no enemies.
How do you know those Keynesian wall street types aren't communist? Successful assassins (whose politics we know): John Wilkes Booth, a Democrat, shot and killed President Lincoln Charles Guiteau, a member of the communist Oneida Community, shot and killed President Garfield Leon Czolgosz, a leftist anarchist (similar to the useful idiots in the Occupy movement) shot and killed President McKinley Lee Harvey Oswald, a communist, shot and killed President Kennedy. Failed assassins (whose politics we know): Severino Di Giovanni, a leftist anarchist, tried to bomb President-elect Hoover’s train Giuseppe Zangara, a professed anti-capitalist, tried shooting President-elect Franklin Roosevelt Oscar Collazo and Griselio Torresola, two Marxists, tried killing President Truman at the Blair House Samuel Byck, who tried joining the leftist Black Panther group, attempted to kill President Nixon Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme, member of the Manson Family and also a hippie environmentalist, shot at President Ford Sara Jane Moore tried to kill President Ford as well because, as she said, “the government had declared war on the Left.” Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez, a leftist connected to the Occupy movement, tried getting a one-in-a-billion shot at President Obama by firing a gun at the White House


-paulmagno :

Great Stuff as usual, Ted...First post here...Let's see how long it takes before the "man" kicks me out...


-Radam G :

[IMG]http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=423&stc=1[/IMG] In a pitched battle, Wall Street Suits would destroy communist thugs 7 out of 7 days every week. . The suits are soulless sociopathic stone cold killers who take no enemies.
Hehehe! So Commies have zero chances. And I believe everything about those suits. They are even in the not-so secret society of running the whole globe. No dang Commies, socialists or religious nutcases want any part of WSSs, no doubt. Holla!


-Kid Blast :

The suits keep coming and coming much like The Chinese and North Koreans did when the bugles went off at the Chosin Reservoir. And that's one I remember all too vividly. People like Frank and Dodd might think they slowed them down but these killers are like vampires. They want our They look innocent as new born babes but will rip your heart out if it means more moola. Even China, Viet Nam, and Russia defer to their doctrine of greed. Very few things, if anything scare me. These dudes do. They are zombies with working brains.


-Kid Blast :

Great Stuff as usual, Ted...First post here...Let's see how long it takes before the "man" kicks me out...
Welcome to TSS Paul. Someone with your incredible boxing and writing background can only enhance this fine Forum.


-Kid Blast :

Getting back to the subject at hand, this Saturday's card in Alabama has something for everyone. Call it escapism if you wish, but during this long venue, I will be thinking of boxing and only boxing and will not be concerned with what is going outside of my home. I will be trying to figure out those who should be dialoguing on the subject from a top perspective and will work on that and post it somewhere and that will be my contribution for now. Corey Booker is my first choice. I definitely know who I DON'T want in that important group. Maybe that female governor of South Carolina as well. The Dallas Mayor seems well grounded but the Police Chief of Milwaukee might be a tad harsh. These are just names that pop up. Thing is, you get enough on there and then you start the process of elimination. There was a minister at Ali's eulogy who was very good as well. I also like Don Lenon. GOP Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina is a remote possibility.


-deepwater2 :

The suits keep coming and coming much like The Chinese and North Koreans did when the bugles went off at the Chosin Reservoir. And that's one I remember all too vividly. People like Frank and Dodd might think they slowed them down but these killers are like vampires. They want our They look innocent as new born babes but will rip your heart out if it means more moola. Even China, Viet Nam, and Russia defer to their doctrine of greed. Very few things, if anything scare me. These dudes do. They are zombies with working brains.

Wow. That was legendary battle that I have heard of. My wife is from Pyeongtaek. Glad those commie reds didn't get ya! My drinking buddies tell me stories from that battle. How tough was the roc army? Did they shave outside in the snow with dry razors?


-deepwater2 :

I rather have Richard Pryor and none of the above in charge


-Domenic :

Great perspective Dominic. The undertone of the OJ thing was very scary. The 60's post 63 were brutal in many different ways. After Camelot was destroyed, it was full tilt boogie.
The parallels between then and now seem eerie and undeniable. Vietnam then, World War 3, set off by 9/11, now. Although today we have the 24 hour news cycle, citizen journalists, and ubiquitous cell phone cameras, rendering it virtually impossible to put a happy face on an entirely bleak situation (LBJ, McNamara, and the soldiers who arrived home alive knew the true status of the fight, while the government perpetuated a myth that the war was going along swimmingly). Pentagon Papers then, Edward Snowden now. The disastrous Chicago convention of 68, who-knows-what-we'll-see in Cleveland next week (brace for the worst). The Black Panthers then, BLM now. Nixon then, Trump now. The counterculture then, a movement that seemed benign and utopian, derailed with the Manson murders to end the decade and TKO the hippie movement. It's been a mess for a long time and it's coming to a head. The situation is dire. 2016 was the prime year to KO the two party stranglehold, but too late now. Things are ugly.


-Domenic :

I rather have Richard Pryor and none of the above in charge
Gotta love the Brewster's Millions reference. Reminds me of an easier, simpler time, for sure. Good list on the assassins as well as your thoughtful contributions on this thread. I'll be tuned in for Wilder's thrashing of Arreola this weekend for a respite from all the rest for sure. And I'll be screaming loudly for Luis Ortiz to get the next shot at him or Joshua next.


-Yogo :

Thatcher, yes. Her impact on the working class still reverberates here, in fact they're still flogging off all our great industries for a quick buck. Those fat cats Blast spoke about are still worshiping at her altar...


-Kid Blast :

Wow. That was legendary battle that I have heard of. My wife is from Pyeongtaek. Glad those commie reds didn't get ya! My drinking buddies tell me stories from that battle. How tough was the roc army? Did they shave outside in the snow with dry razors?
[FONT=Arial] ROC Army was in a word, valiant. But the true killers--or so I am told --were the Turks. This was a UN deal so there was a little bit of everything

[SIZE=3]Applicable paragraphs From an article I wrote many years ago. In mid-September 1950, the aforementioned amphibious invasion at Inchon had dealt the North Koreans a mortal blow from which they would never recover. In the following two months, U.N. Troops pushed swiftly through North Korea and there existed the euphoria of an apparent total victory in plain sight, though this may have contributed to a degree of overconfidence. At any rate, China intervened on behalf of their badly defeated fellow Communist neighbor to the South. Major Chinese forces entered Korea on the night of Oct. 16 1950, when a unit of the 42d army of the 13th Army Group crossed the Yalu. On Oct. 18, Chairman Mao issued the final order for four armies and 3 artillery divisions to enter Korea on Oct. 19. The Chinese massed for a counter attack. Though less well armed than the UN armies, the Chinese armies were much larger, carried less equipment, moved faster on foot, and, amid the frightening blowing of bugles and noises from loudspeakers, routed the UN forces in wave after wave type attacks. Some 40,000 U.S. Troops were cut off by the advance and evacuated from near Wonsan in mid-December 1950. Incredibly, Seoul was retaken by the Chinese as they pushed south. This time, the Communist forces were stopped about two-thirds of the way down the peninsula and were not able to push to Pusan. A second UN offensive began in late February 1951, which pushed the Chinese back north of Seoul again. The UN advance stopped near the 38th parallel. Then, a second Chinese offensive was launched in April. Once again, wave after wave of Chinese soldiers cut off and destroyed advance UN troops. But this time the Chinese armies stopped north of Seoul. The UN military was thrown back midway into South Korea. Then, early in the new year, the Chinese army was again contained and forced to retreat. And the incredible seesaw of battle continued as each army took its turn making an offensive move and then being stopped and then starting up again.


-dollar bond :

I am amazed at the civility of the posters here. Great stuff and great respect to all.


-Radam G :

I am amazed at the civility of the posters here. Great stuff and great respect to all.
Something else! Hum! Ninety-nine point five percent sweet and poetic science of civility. Holla!


-Tex Hassler :

Since I can speak from previous boxing experience, once the bell rings and the punches start flying all thoughts of racial differences vanish. At least that is true from my past experience. This is a truly great article Mr. Sares.


-Kid Blast :

Thank you Tex. Amazingly, since I wrote it, we had Nice and we had Baton Rouge. I decided to write an article on boxing for TSS and it helped immensely.


-deepwater2 :

Thank you Tex. Amazingly, since I wrote it, we had Nice and we had Baton Rouge. I decided to write an article on boxing for TSS and it helped immensely.
Don't forget about the failed coup in Turkey. The us is supporting erdogen the butcher still! Maybe because he has 50 of our nukes. Don't forget Putin just fired all his commanders of his navy Baltic division fleet for not being aggressive enough. China just activated its military over south sea disputes. We live in interesting times.


-Kid Blast :

Don't forget about the failed coup in Turkey. The us is supporting erdogen the butcher still! Maybe because he has 50 of our nukes. Don't forget Putin just fired all his commanders of his navy Baltic division fleet for not being aggressive enough. China just activated its military over south sea disputes. We live in interesting times.
Actually in the article I am writing , Putin's girlfriend popped up. She is a raging beauty by the name of Natasha Ragosina


-deepwater2 :

That old dog Putin. Is that the former gymnast?


-deepwater2 :

Putin might be trying his black belt in Judo against her boxing technique.


-Kid Blast :

Putin might be trying his black belt in Judo against her boxing technique.



-deepwater2 :

Hey it says hear that Broner is in the slammer. 30 days . The judge said he isn't ducking this one- off to the slammer! Haha. Grandmothers around the country can feel safe now he is in the slammer. Don't drop the soap kid, maybe the squirrel master can help him out.


-deepwater2 :



It sure looks like he is putting the wrist lock on her in that pic.


-Kid Blast :

Yes, they are pretty tight. She is a raving beauty and was Russia's best female boxer. I will be writing about he and many more soon.

Putin seems like one happy guy.


-Kid Blast :

Now I am going off the grid. Adios amigos for a while.