Canelo Khan Fight Inspired by Trump, says De La Hoya

Canelo Khan Fight – LOS ANGELES-Blame it on Donald Trump.

Mexico’s Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (46-1-1, 32 KOs) will meet England’s Amir “King” Khan (31-3, 19 KOs) for the WBC middleweight title on May 7 at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. HBO pay-per-view will televise.

Oscar De La Hoya says he was inspired by Republican presidential candidate Trump – who does not want Muslims to enter the U.S. and wants to build a wall to keep Mexican immigrants from crossing – in sparking the idea for the match.

“Thank you Trump,” said De La Hoya with a smile.

The president of Golden Boy Promotions had been seeking a willing partner to share the spotlight on Cinco de Mayo weekend with “Canelo” Alvarez. It had to be someone with recognition and respect.

One day while on Twitter, the thought hit him as he looked at political mishmash on the social media outlet and also ran across Khan commenting to others on the site about his own boxing future.

“I was sitting on the couch wondering what could make the biggest event,” De La Hoya said when the idea hit him. “We like thinking outside the box. When has Amir Khan been in a dull fight?”

De La Hoya said he immediately messaged Khan through Twitter and was told by the British prizefighter to give him a little time. Two days later he accepted the fight with Alvarez.

For De La Hoya it’s all about building an event interesting enough to lure fans to Las Vegas or to shell out money for the pay-per-view.

Alvarez was able to attract several thousand fans to Universal City Walk. The first arrivals waited four hours, from 2 p.m. until 6 p.m. on Wednesday, for the fighters to arrive. With Mexican flags in tow and many adorned with Canelo t-shirts, the fans crowded into the staging area anxious to see their hero.

“Ninety-nine percent of the people are here for Canelo,” said Khan, 29.

He wasn’t far off in his estimate.

Post Cotto Win

The Mexican redhead just captured the most significant victory in his career when he defeated Puerto Rico’s Miguel Cotto last November.

Most sports fans are unaware of the significance of Alvarez’s victory. With the win over Puerto Rico’s best fighter, the Mexican pugilist follows in the footsteps of others like Salvador Sanchez, Julio Cesar Chavez and Ricardo “Finito” Lopez. For Mexican fans, beating a Puerto Rican super star is one of the greatest achievements a Mexican fighter can attain.

Now it’s time for Alvarez to build on that accomplishment and Khan is the first step.

But as De La Hoya kept reminding, the first step could be a misstep.

“Anything can happen,” De La Hoya said. “Amir Khan could throw one of his vicious body punches.”

Is it a mismatch?

Khan does not think so.

“I wouldn’t take this fight if I didn’t think I could win,” said Khan, who had been criticized for not accepting a fight with fellow British welterweight Kell Brook. “This fight has me in the role of the underdog. That’s really motivation for me.”

Few contest that Khan is one of the speediest prizefighters in the world today above 135 pounds. For years his blinding combinations have bewildered and pummeled opponents throughout his amateur and professional career.

But can he defeat Alvarez who is accustomed to fighting near 155 pounds, the bare minimum weight allowed for a middleweight fight?

“I’m naturally a 147-pound welterweight,” admitted Khan. “This fight at middleweight could not work out for me so well.”

Canelo Alvarez was not too bold about his own capabilities. Almost as if he did not want to set himself up for absolute failure.

“People can say whatever they want, that’s my problem,” said a testy Alvarez, 25, when asked about fighting the thinner looking Khan. “I will prepare hard for Amir Khan; I’m not going to underestimate him.”

Enough intrigue remains for fans to want to see this fight. Also, for most fans in the Southwest region it’s an opportunity to crack open some beers and celebrate Cinco de Mayo while watching a prizefight.

For De La Hoya it all fits perfectly.

“Canelo’s Mexican and Khan is Muslim,” said De La Hoya about Trump’s sideways contribution to the matching. “Let me just say, let’s thank Donald Trump for making this fight happen because we are getting a Mexican and Muslim together to have this fight on Cinco de Mayo!”

Check out The Boxing Channel video “TBC Looks At Saul Alvarez vs Amir Khan”.

COMMENTS

-deepwater2 :

Trump bringing people together. I'm no Trump fan but the attacks and lies about the guy is sickening to watch. Nothing to see over at the Democratic Party, the party that created the Kkk. Just a few years ago Hilary called senator Robert Byrd her mentor. Byrd was the president of the Kkk. Don't mention that. And don't ever mention BJ Bill Clinton , serial rapist and sex predator. Anyway, the economy is toast, the wars go on, not a dimes worth of difference between the republican and democratic establishment . One party , two heads.


-Bernie Campbell :

Actually, Donald wanted to take his picture with Travis Walker in this photo but Dela Hoya hogged the camera and pushed Travis out of the way.


-Radam G :

Wow! Big Money O is getting giggly with pushing promotion bullspit. A straight-up Phony Promotion Phenomenon. It is genius of him to spin the playful propaganda of da D-Trump to build a wall to keep Mexicans out, and to halt Muslims from migrating to the mainland USA. LMFAO! Da D-Trump was just being an art-master politrickster. "The New York Times" has an audio of da D-Trump laughing his @$$ off about how he said that he was just bull$h?ting, according to his sneaky opponent Texas Senator (snitcher) Ted Cruz. WTF! OMFG! BMO is being a classic bullsyeter with taking gone-viral politrick bullsyet and turning it into some billion-dollar BIG syet. Hahahaha! YUP! The son of Mexican immigrants is making a stance against the prejudice of an orange-colored-toupee-wearing demagogue. Wow! GTFOH! Only in boksing! LOL! BMO is quite the Yank Humanitarian who is seizing the moment to uphold the opportunities of all peoples. And it is from his heart. And the earth is going to end in two hours before the American elections. Holla!


-Avilad60 :

Negotiations are underway for a Lucas Matthysse-Mauricio Herrera fight. Who do you pick for that @radam G ?


-Radam G :

M-He beats all the dirt out of L-Matt like beating it out of a dusty rug. And L-Matt is plenty of dirty. And he will be so humiliated that he will need a hug. I consider M-He an uncrowned champion and untitled Fighter of The Year. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Oscar looks like Trump's toy boy. Golden girl knows which way his bread is buttered. And she knows how to corral up a good contact too. Time to get those stocking out Oscar. Moving on . . . . . I have thoroughly enjoyed Trump's presidential campaign. It's been full of events that would cause most other's presidential campaigns to become a slow motion train wreck. Yet for Trump it works because people connect to him and his ability to say what he and they think. It's been a laugh. There was a female politician in Queensland Australia years ago that - on a much smaller scale - spoke her mind about immigration and many other issues; Pauline Hanson. Like Trump, she, all her controversial policies, and how she spoke her mind regardless of the circumstances, also resonated deeply with many redneck Australian voters too. She ended up in jail for - I think - something related to election fraud. Which I reckon almost every elected prime minister in Oz could probably be tagged for. It's not like it's a squeaky clean fraternity and profession; like boxing is. As it was - at the time this all went down - Tony Abbott (Australia's recently removed PM) - whom was at that time John Howard's (Australia's PM at the time) political head kicker and "dirty deeds designer" - was alleged to have been the architect to Pauline's jailhouse fate. Of course no-one can prove this. But, what was unmistakable was how Pauline's popularity and policies seemed to concern the government of the day. And they knew how to deal with her. Abbott. Abbott would later go on to become Australia's prime minister; despite both the aforementioned reptilian and head kicking traits. Traits that would normally cast a shadow on most commoner's CV's. :) Trump's campaign has been like watching Homer and Bart Simpson travel from state to state and get paid to, not only say, drink, and eat what they want - but also giggle at both their own expense and misinterpretations of what failure really means. Some of Trump's half formed policies are even more humorous than that. Not as brilliantly funny as how confident Don publicly/verbally delivers, and or answers questions on, them though. I loved it when he (effectively) claimed that his policy (that he was promoting at that time pertaining to immigration and terrorism) was, laughably, to build and/or do something better than what it was currently now.

Oh really? That's genus. Who would have ever thought of doing things better? Furthermore, who would have ever thought of saying that you're going to do things better if you get elected; on your election campaign.

Anyway, Trump delivered that atmospheric and meaningless explanation as a means of smoothing over how his previous (very short on details) policy explanation pertaining to all the relevant immigration and terrorist problems would be solved, provided he were president.

Hitler (stay with me) was bigger on detail (and popularity) when he decided to invade Russia. Judge for yourselves how well that worked. Sure Trump is not bellowing out fighting words though; is he? Or is he? Some things that Trump says (about Muslims) may very well serve to aggravate existing tensions even if they don't incite terrorism outright. And that's even if that is not the intended result in Trump's mind when he releases these "policies".

Anyway, that kind of atmospheric decoy response is - if none of the above - certainly Hilary Clinton-esque. But the way Trump delivers it is even better. As Trump really doesn't seem to give a f.uck whether he provides a sufficient explanation or not - or whether other's believe that little of an explanation that he does give. And - despite how it perhaps shouldn't be the case - in some ways that's refreshing. Well, it's at least humorous.

After all, it's not a serious subject that deserves a complete explanation, is it? It's just the presidency. And they're just policies that Trump is firing off that could potentially create serious tensions with neighbouring countries and also those from afar?

I mean, when was the last time the USA had a candidate that literally said and did - during something as sensitive and publicised as a presidential campaign - anything that he wanted to, like Trump does? Not to mention when was the last time the USA had a candidate that, where/when, if he was questioned in a manner he didn't like and/or about the lack of substance in his policies, and/or put on the spot, he basically responds with something along the line of . . . ""well, f.ck you, I will do/say what I want"" Talk about a rouge presidential candidate with the potential to get in office; Trump is certainly that. Right now Trump is on fire - and with no big oil or other vested interests that have financially underpinned his campaign to worry about - it looks like he will remain in the same mode of operation right up until his campaign's end. It's a spectacle that's as brilliant as it is both unique and funny that many people think Donald Trump is the answer to America's political problems. Of all the things the solution could possibly be; I never thought it would actually manifest itself as Donald Trump. But - for now at least - it seems to be either that, or Hilary Clinton. I just love the way Trump's casually delivered discussions about what many Americans supposedly want . . . . .



"Regardless of how some of that which is actually discussed by Trump may not necessarily work at a Whitehouse, economic, and/or other level (eg; challenge courts and the legal system . . . eject Muslims and Mexicans and build a big wall between Mexico and the USA)"



. . . is as laughably dangerous as it is clearly well received by all the voters that clearly want both change and someone that will do what they think needs to be done. And, after all (despite how it may have evolved into a war machine that brazenly exhibits both covert and overt authoritarian traits that themselves appear to originate within the Whitehouse's govern-mental minds that, at times, appear to be systemically influenced by both the big end of town and the need to play the role of the global police) that is the role of the president and American governmental system; to be the agent of change and also someone that will do what it is that the American voters want done with their taxes. What is amazing is how popular both Trump and his publicly undercooked policies have really become. I mean, I am yet to hear Trump explain in detail how - even just one - of his plans, strategies, and policies (such as the ones that underpin all his current success) will actually achieve the advertised end-goal that's colourfully (and often also controversially) pasted onto it. And even though that shortfall or inability in itself could possibly be a sign of disaster, spectacle, or even something else (as it would for most other candidates); you have to give it to Trump for funding his own campaign - telling all potential/interested financial underwriters to forget him when they consider donations - and for saying/doing exactly as he wants. Furthermore, the fact that Donald speaks in absolute generalities about almost all his promises - as he does it all - is almost as funny as it is a sign of how free one becomes when campaigning whilst no-one pulls your puppet strings from the shadows. What's going to be interesting is what happens if/when Trump finally gets into office and finds out that a little more than a muscular and bullying approach is required there to get things done. I mean - even of you're not a newcomer - you can't always push/shove all your ideas and policies through the political machine, and then just dump what's left of them on the public; after congress, the senate, and all other opposition has pecked the eyes out of it.

Actually, maybe I need to revise that view. Maybe you can simply push/shove all your ideas and policies through the political machine, and then just dump what's left of them on the public.

Anyway, I say all this as Trump and his controversial policies have left absolutely no doubt in my tortured and
Stormy mind that - should he be elected as president - he would surely (at least/first attempt to) govern America with a "spectacular" mix of inexperienced totalitarian and authoritarian juvenile approaches of the like that has probably not been seen before. Remember, even Bush Jr. had his father's experience as president to call upon as he bumbled through and explained his self-interest filled policies; some of which were nowhere near as concerned about the prospects of war, public health failures, and economic uncertainty as they perhaps should have been. Imagine the clashes with America's longstanding military figures and all the high court judges, and all their political representatives, and all the others, that Trump will surely have if he comes into (the presidential) office and simply treats it like a day;

A) At work. B) On the campaign trail. C) Filming the apprentice.

They would truly be spectacular. As Trump seems to not just subscribe to the utopian and theoretical political principle that the president of the USA runs America - but he also seems to really believe it. Voodoo style baby. I reckon there might be a few American advisors and longstanding senior military (and other governmental agency) figures that might not only, have a thing or two to say about Trump's possibly rigid approach and style - but also know how to deal (and set up) a new president that thinks he is coming to the Whitehouse to tell all how to suck eggs. We're no better. As the Australian political system (where, due to in fighting and conduct that not only redefines the term "backstabbing", but also presents it as a favourable pastime colleagues with national responsibility can engage in, to such an extent that we have had something like 5 different prime ministers in almost the same amount of years) is not only in tatters - but largely run by idiots too. The same disease, somehow, seems to always prevail. Regardless of the oceanic boundaries. Ah - unless you want to go insane - you gotta see the humour in it all though. Yep, this American campaign and Trump is certainly going to be fun. I am going to enjoy watching Trump - if he gets into office - treat the whole experience like it's a season of the apprentice. All as he goes about his merry way on a mission to address personal interests and vendettas in a manner that he feels will appease his supporters and be explained in that context. All whilst at the same time he (unless he runs the risk of not delivering on his election promises almost as immediately as he is sworn in) takes on the big immoveable machine that is congress - whilst simultaneously juggling all the push back and heat he will undoubtedly get from challenging the role of the courts. As a politician (of any country), let me tell you, there are easier targets to set your sights on than the courts and judges. There's a reason why the courts have evolved from their laughably corrupt and easily influenced early years - to what they are now; where the shady remnants of their origins are still plain for all to see/experience - but nonetheless still remain unchanged after all these years. And that reason is not just because the courts and judicial systems are extremely difficult to meaningfully expose in ways that will make them concede, admit and change - it's also due to the fact that the justice system is deeply woven into the fabric of America's economic system; to such an extent that the government relies upon it for social conditioning and revenue. So, the courts and judicial systems therefore control the immense pressure and heat that any new president (and, for Australia, prime minister) feels; even in the event that the newly elected ruler (unlike Trump) does not decide to set their sights upon the courts. As they say, never f.uck with a lawyer unless you are one And not only are there plenty in the courts - but the last time I checked they all love their cosy jobs there too. Check out the (dual summer/winter) holidays, salary, and other great perks most judges get; when you next get a chance. Start screwing with any of that and you will feel pressure and heat that melts the hardest of determinations. OK, with all that said . . . . Trump is obviously no ordinary character. And, I don't know how much pressure and heat he can handle - or what the melting point is of his determination and resolve. One thing I do know though, is - with the policies that Trump has been jawing off on and gaining momentum with - the dude must love living dangerously. As there has probably been hits put out on public figures that are less controversial and have set about to create far fewer enemies in high places. But then, and perhaps this is why Trump is so popular, Donald's very public and total contempt, arrogance, and (perhaps better put) superciliousness; for not only the concept of risk management - but also for any mention of checks and balances as they pertain to his policies . . . . seems to be (for now) what makes Trump who he is - just as much as it surely is the core aspect of his popularity. Hell, even if Trump doesn't get into office, tonight will be another chapter not to miss within the episodically funny Trump campaign. As tonight - here in Oz - or so the advertisements state - Trump is interviewed on Fox by Megan Kelly. Yawl remember her don't you? Megan Kelly was the one that Trump previously and controversially said this about . . . . ?"There was blood coming out of her eyes, and blood coming out of her wherever"." In a later interview with Trump he back peddled and stated that he meant Kelly's nose when he said "wherever." Sure Don. I don't know what will happen with the American presidency. And, as much as I respect Trump for running his own election, doing it his way, and pretty much telling others he doesn't like to STFU, if Trump is elected it may just;

A) Provide as many goofy moments as Bush Jr did. B) Equal the comedy we have here in Australia with our political system and leaders.

As much as I don't like his chances; I respect Khan for fighting Canelo. Provided Floyd remains retired; it's probably the best way to arouse interest with that (often worried about and) lost fight with Floyd.
Storm. :) :)


-kidcanvas :

trump is a brilliant man , anyone who thinks you accomplish all that he has by being a dumb *** is the dumb *** themselves... go Donald 2016.. he brought us some great fights back in the 80s & 90s ...


-kidcanvas :

and make america great again ... you young guns havent lived in a great america like i have 40 50 60 yrs ago .. man it was prosperous and fights on every night !!


-stormcentre :

Will he show Megan no mercy again KB? Or will he be nice this time? You never know with Trump. :) Huge toon right here folks . . . . .


-kidcanvas :

Sadly,there's many who make important decisions based on there emotions rather than their brains, hence the loser we have in the WH.ill take a man who is a self made billionare businessman who has no lobbyist, no corporate donors ro be obligated to like every one of them except Donald, it amazes me that of all places, a boxing site where it should be brains over impulsive emotions ,I find it the oppposite.. u like 3rd world living? Then your on the right track


-deepwater2 :

Oscar looks like Trump's toy boy. Golden girl knows which way his bread is buttered. And she knows how to corral up a good contact too. Time to get those stocking out Oscar. Moving on . . . . . I have thoroughly enjoyed Trump's presidential campaign. It's been full of events that would cause most other's presidential campaigns to become a slow motion train wreck. Yet for Trump it works because people connect to him and his ability to say what he and they think. It's been a laugh. There was a female politician in Queensland Australia years ago that - on a much smaller scale - spoke her mind about immigration and many other issues; Pauline Hanson. Like Trump, she, all her controversial policies, and how she spoke her mind regardless of the circumstances, also resonated deeply with many redneck Australian voters too. She ended up in jail for - I think - something related to election fraud. Which I reckon almost every elected prime minister in Oz could probably be tagged for. It's not like it's a squeaky clean fraternity and profession; like boxing is. As it was - at the time this all went down - Tony Abbott (Australia's recently removed PM) - whom was at that time John Howard's (Australia's PM at the time) political head kicker and "dirty deeds designer" - was alleged to have been the architect to Pauline's jailhouse fate. Of course no-one can prove this. But, what was unmistakable was how Pauline's popularity and policies seemed to concern the government of the day. And they knew how to deal with her. Abbott. Abbott would later go on to become Australia's prime minister; despite both the aforementioned reptilian and head kicking traits. Traits that would normally cast a shadow on most commoner's CV's. :) Trump's campaign has been like watching Homer and Bart Simpson travel from state to state and get paid to, not only say, drink, and eat what they want - but also giggle at both their own expense and misinterpretations of what failure really means. Some of Trump's half formed policies are even more humorous than that. Not as brilliantly funny as how confident Don publicly/verbally delivers, and or answers questions on, them though. I loved it when he (effectively) claimed that his policy (that he was promoting at that time pertaining to immigration and terrorism) was, laughably, to build and/or do something better than what it was currently now.

Oh really? That's genus. Who would have ever thought of doing things better? Furthermore, who would have ever thought of saying that you're going to do things better if you get elected; on your election campaign.

Anyway, Trump delivered that atmospheric and meaningless explanation as a means of smoothing over how his previous (very short on details) policy explanation pertaining to all the relevant immigration and terrorist problems would be solved, provided he were president.

Hitler (stay with me) was bigger on detail (and popularity) when he decided to invade Russia. Judge for yourselves how well that worked. Sure Trump is not bellowing out fighting words though; is he? Or is he? Some things that Trump says (about Muslims) may very well serve to aggravate existing tensions even if they don't incite terrorism outright. And that's even if that is not the intended result in Trump's mind when he releases these "policies".

Anyway, that kind of atmospheric decoy response is - if none of the above - certainly Hilary Clinton-esque. But the way Trump delivers it is even better. As Trump really doesn't seem to give a f.uck whether he provides a sufficient explanation or not - or whether other's believe that little of an explanation that he does give. And - despite how it perhaps shouldn't be the case - in some ways that's refreshing. Well, it's at least humorous.

After all, it's not a serious subject that deserves a complete explanation, is it? It's just the presidency. And they're just policies that Trump is firing off that could potentially create serious tensions with neighbouring countries and also those from afar?

I mean, when was the last time the USA had a candidate that literally said and did - during something as sensitive and publicised as a presidential campaign - anything that he wanted to, like Trump does? Not to mention when was the last time the USA had a candidate that, where/when, if he was questioned in a manner he didn't like and/or about the lack of substance in his policies, and/or put on the spot, he basically responds with something along the line of . . . ""well, f.ck you, I will do/say what I want"" Talk about a rouge presidential candidate with the potential to get in office; Trump is certainly that. Right now Trump is on fire - and with no big oil or other vested interests that have financially underpinned his campaign to worry about - it looks like he will remain in the same mode of operation right up until his campaign's end. It's a spectacle that's as brilliant as it is both unique and funny that many people think Donald Trump is the answer to America's political problems. Of all the things the solution could possibly be; I never thought it would actually manifest itself as Donald Trump. But - for now at least - it seems to be either that, or Hilary Clinton. I just love the way Trump's casually delivered discussions about what many Americans supposedly want . . . . .



"Regardless of how some of that which is actually discussed by Trump may not necessarily work at a Whitehouse, economic, and/or other level (eg; challenge courts and the legal system . . . eject Muslims and Mexicans and build a big wall between Mexico and the USA)"



. . . is as laughably dangerous as it is clearly well received by all the voters that clearly want both change and someone that will do what they think needs to be done. And, after all (despite how it may have evolved into a war machine that brazenly exhibits both covert and overt authoritarian traits that themselves appear to originate within the Whitehouse's govern-mental minds that, at times, appear to be systemically influenced by both the big end of town and the need to play the role of the global police) that is the role of the president and American governmental system; to be the agent of change and also someone that will do what it is that the American voters want done with their taxes. What is amazing is how popular both Trump and his publicly undercooked policies have really become. I mean, I am yet to hear Trump explain in detail how - even just one - of his plans, strategies, and policies (such as the ones that underpin all his current success) will actually achieve the advertised end-goal that's colourfully (and often also controversially) pasted onto it. And even though that shortfall or inability in itself could possibly be a sign of disaster, spectacle, or even something else (as it would for most other candidates); you have to give it to Trump for funding his own campaign - telling all potential/interested financial underwriters to forget him when they consider donations - and for saying/doing exactly as he wants. Furthermore, the fact that Donald speaks in absolute generalities about almost all his promises - as he does it all - is almost as funny as it is a sign of how free one becomes when campaigning whilst no-one pulls your puppet strings from the shadows. What's going to be interesting is what happens if/when Trump finally gets into office and finds out that a little more than a muscular and bullying approach is required there to get things done. I mean - even of you're not a newcomer - you can't always push/shove all your ideas and policies through the political machine, and then just dump what's left of them on the public; after congress, the senate, and all other opposition has pecked the eyes out of it.

Actually, maybe I need to revise that view. Maybe you can simply push/shove all your ideas and policies through the political machine, and then just dump what's left of them on the public.

Anyway, I say all this as Trump and his controversial policies have left absolutely no doubt in my tortured and
Stormy mind that - should he be elected as president - he would surely (at least/first attempt to) govern America with a "spectacular" mix of inexperienced totalitarian and authoritarian juvenile approaches of the like that has probably not been seen before. Remember, even Bush Jr. had his father's experience as president to call upon as he bumbled through and explained his self-interest filled policies; some of which were nowhere near as concerned about the prospects of war, public health failures, and economic uncertainty as they perhaps should have been. Imagine the clashes with America's longstanding military figures and all the high court judges, and all their political representatives, and all the others, that Trump will surely have if he comes into (the presidential) office and simply treats it like a day;

A) At work. B) On the campaign trail. C) Filming the apprentice.

They would truly be spectacular. As Trump seems to not just subscribe to the utopian and theoretical political principle that the president of the USA runs America - but he also seems to really believe it. Voodoo style baby. I reckon there might be a few American advisors and longstanding senior military (and other governmental agency) figures that might not only, have a thing or two to say about Trump's possibly rigid approach and style - but also know how to deal (and set up) a new president that thinks he is coming to the Whitehouse to tell all how to suck eggs. We're no better. As the Australian political system (where, due to in fighting and conduct that not only redefines the term "backstabbing", but also presents it as a favourable pastime colleagues with national responsibility can engage in, to such an extent that we have had something like 5 different prime ministers in almost the same amount of years) is not only in tatters - but largely run by idiots too. The same disease, somehow, seems to always prevail. Regardless of the oceanic boundaries. Ah - unless you want to go insane - you gotta see the humour in it all though. Yep, this American campaign and Trump is certainly going to be fun. I am going to enjoy watching Trump - if he gets into office - treat the whole experience like it's a season of the apprentice. All as he goes about his merry way on a mission to address personal interests and vendettas in a manner that he feels will appease his supporters and be explained in that context. All whilst at the same time he (unless he runs the risk of not delivering on his election promises almost as immediately as he is sworn in) takes on the big immoveable machine that is congress - whilst simultaneously juggling all the push back and heat he will undoubtedly get from challenging the role of the courts. As a politician (of any country), let me tell you, there are easier targets to set your sights on than the courts and judges. There's a reason why the courts have evolved from their laughably corrupt and easily influenced early years - to what they are now; where the shady remnants of their origins are still plain for all to see/experience - but nonetheless still remain unchanged after all these years. And that reason is not just because the courts and judicial systems are extremely difficult to meaningfully expose in ways that will make them concede, admit and change - it's also due to the fact that the justice system is deeply woven into the fabric of America's economic system; to such an extent that the government relies upon it for social conditioning and revenue. So, the courts and judicial systems therefore control the immense pressure and heat that any new president (and, for Australia, prime minister) feels; even in the event that the newly elected ruler (unlike Trump) does not decide to set their sights upon the courts. As they say, never f.uck with a lawyer unless you are one And not only are there plenty in the courts - but the last time I checked they all love their cosy jobs there too. Check out the (dual summer/winter) holidays, salary, and other great perks most judges get; when you next get a chance. Start screwing with any of that and you will feel pressure and heat that melts the hardest of determinations. OK, with all that said . . . . Trump is obviously no ordinary character. And, I don't know how much pressure and heat he can handle - or what the melting point is of his determination and resolve. One thing I do know though, is - with the policies that Trump has been jawing off on and gaining momentum with - the dude must love living dangerously. As there has probably been hits put out on public figures that are less controversial and have set about to create far fewer enemies in high places. But then, and perhaps this is why Trump is so popular, Donald's very public and total contempt, arrogance, and (perhaps better put) superciliousness; for not only the concept of risk management - but also for any mention of checks and balances as they pertain to his policies . . . . seems to be (for now) what makes Trump who he is - just as much as it surely is the core aspect of his popularity. Hell, even if Trump doesn't get into office, tonight will be another chapter not to miss within the episodically funny Trump campaign. As tonight - here in Oz - or so the advertisements state - Trump is interviewed on Fox by Megan Kelly. Yawl remember her don't you? Megan Kelly was the one that Trump previously and controversially said this about . . . . “"There was blood coming out of her eyes, and blood coming out of her wherever"." In a later interview with Trump he back peddled and stated that he meant Kelly's nose when he said "wherever." Sure Don. I don't know what will happen with the American presidency. And, as much as I respect Trump for running his own election, doing it his way, and pretty much telling others he doesn't like to STFU, if Trump is elected it may just;

A) Provide as many goofy moments as Bush Jr did. B) Equal the comedy we have here in Australia with our political system and leaders.

As much as I don't like his chances; I respect Khan for fighting Canelo. Provided Floyd remains retired; it's probably the best way to arouse interest with that (often worried about and) lost fight with Floyd.
Storm. :) :)
Trump is the result of a corrupt establishment. The best the country can do is a bush or Clinton? You might like to focus on silly things like cross dressing and Trump's colorful direct language. But.... Why vote for the people that have already stolen trillions, invading, funding and forcing regime change in many middle eastern countries as well as backing neonazis in the overthrow of Ukraine. Why vote for the same people that killed Qaddafi to steal his weapons and oil to fund isis in the overthrow of Assad,who protects Christians, speaking of Christians , Reports say 700,000+ have been wiped out in these conflicts. Why arm the rapid Saudi Arabian kingdom with heavy weapons to wipe out the people of Yeman? That kingdom chops the heads off of gays ,political dissidents, and atheists daily. Why vote for the people that are in bed with the sultan Erdogen regime, who are at the border of Turkey-Syria ,ready to invade with the backing of NATO, which will surely escalate pitting Russia vs USA. Trump says it would be good to be able to negotiate with Putin. Trump receives high marks from the military, instead of fantasizing about what trump would tell his generals , understand that there was a military purge in the past decade in America. Google it. The American people know what we have gotten in the past 30 years and most are ready to take a chance on a Non Establishment whether or not he insults Rosie or ruins the country like the others have already done. Trump support seems to be a total repudiation of the the establishment class. Any serious thoughts , or is that Ecstasy still working? On a silly note, a number of Hollywood dummies , Miley Cyrus etc say they will leave the country if Trump is elected. Trump just gained 10 points. The Hollywood elite might soon become Austrailian citizens. Enjoy.


-stormcentre :

Actually, Deep - as we speak just now - the "E" just kicked in and I am feeling fine. Seriously though - about Trump - I get it. I get why people like him, and how he represents a somewhat refreshing and independent change. The only thing I don't get is how thin on policy detail he is, and that always comes back to bite you when you're a CEO. Let alone a president. :) :)


-Kid Blast :

I think he might smell


-stormcentre :

Actually, Deep - as we speak just now - the "E" just kicked in and I am feeling fine. Seriously though - about Trump - I get it. I personally don't dislike or like the guy. He is what he is. The thing is . . .. America (with all that's going on) needs a real and genuine leader (more than ever) right now though. And not just one that is all hat and no cattle. So I hope, in Clinton or Trump, that is what they get. It's concerning though, that even a guy like Obama - whose election into office was nothing short of historically sensational for the USA and world - was still unable to pass all the bills, and bring the changes, that not only he wanted to - but also he knew America needed. I do get why people like Trump though. So please don't think otherwise. I also get how he represents a somewhat refreshing and independent change to the masses too; lord knows they need it. The only thing - with Trump - that I don't get is . . . . How thin on real policy detail he is. And that always comes back to bite you when you're a CEO of a big organization.
Let alone the president of the United States of America. Finally . . . . I see that even HBO are cashing out on Pac at the moment. I have never seen a broadcaster - before a fight and big promotional investment of theirs - take time out to publicly oppose and correct the views of their star fighter. Another first for boxing that Pac is involved in. Think about that for a moment. As - to the bets of my knowledge - HBO and Showtime never did that with any of Floyd's (well discussed and publicised) indiscretions; of which (we all know) there were many. However with Pac - not just his promoter but also HBO - obviously felt Pacquaio's indiscretions where simply a bridge too far. And, no matter what you or think about his culpability; that doesn't really bode too well for all those court cases Pac has (another first for boxing) either; related to fraud and deception. Hmmmm , . . . . it's hard not to think that Arum and HBO are, in some way, not using the Bradley fight to cash out on Pac. Which will make it all the more interesting if he wins. I am not sure and perhaps you know (this) in an absolute sense, but . . . Seems like the dude (PacMan) sure knows how to engage mouth before brain and use that reliable trait its predicable results to sever relationships and sponsorship deals. Clever business moves right there folks !!!! Come to think of it; not too much seems to have gone right for Pac lately. Not since he lost to Floyd anyways. Look, maybe that will change with the upcoming Bradley fight. Who knows? :) :)


-stormcentre :

Trump is the result of a corrupt establishment. The best the country can do is a bush or Clinton? You might like to focus on silly things like cross dressing and Trump's colorful direct language. But.... Why vote for the people that have already stolen trillions, invading, funding and forcing regime change in many middle eastern countries as well as backing neonazis in the overthrow of Ukraine. Why vote for the same people that killed Qaddafi to steal his weapons and oil to fund isis in the overthrow of Assad,who protects Christians, speaking of Christians , Reports say 700,000+ have been wiped out in these conflicts. Why arm the rapid Saudi Arabian kingdom with heavy weapons to wipe out the people of Yeman? That kingdom chops the heads off of gays ,political dissidents, and atheists daily. Why vote for the people that are in bed with the sultan Erdogen regime, who are at the border of Turkey-Syria ,ready to invade with the backing of NATO, which will surely escalate pitting Russia vs USA. Trump says it would be good to be able to negotiate with Putin. Trump receives high marks from the military, instead of fantasizing about what trump would tell his generals , understand that there was a military purge in the past decade in America. Google it. The American people know what we have gotten in the past 30 years and most are ready to take a chance on a Non Establishment whether or not he insults Rosie or ruins the country like the others have already done. Trump support seems to be a total repudiation of the the establishment class. Any serious thoughts , or is that Ecstasy still working? On a silly note, a number of Hollywood dummies , Miley Cyrus etc say they will leave the country if Trump is elected. Trump just gained 10 points. The Hollywood elite might soon become Austrailian citizens. Enjoy.
Actually, Deep - as we speak just now - the "E" just kicked in and I am feeling fine. Seriously though - about Trump - I get it. I personally don't dislike or like the guy. He is what he is. The thing is . . .. America (with all that's going on) needs a real and genuine leader (more than ever) right now though. And not just one that is all hat and no cattle. So I hope, in Clinton or Trump, that is what they get. It's concerning though, that even a guy like Obama - whose election into office was nothing short of historically sensational for the USA and world - was still unable to pass all the bills, and bring the changes, that not only he wanted to - but also he knew America needed. I do get why people like Trump though. So please don't think otherwise. I also get how he represents a somewhat refreshing and independent change to the masses too; lord knows they need it. The only thing - with Trump - that I don't get is . . . . How thin on real policy detail he is. And that always comes back to bite you when you're a CEO of a big organization.
Let alone the president of the United States of America. Finally . . . . I see that even HBO are cashing out on Pac at the moment. I have never seen a broadcaster - before a fight and big promotional investment of theirs - take time out to publicly oppose and correct the views of their star fighter. Another first for boxing that Pac is involved in. Think about that for a moment. As - to the best of my knowledge - HBO and Showtime never did that with any of Floyd's (well discussed and publicized) indiscretions; of which (we all know) there were many. However with Pac - not just his promoter but also HBO - obviously felt Pacquaio's indiscretions where simply a bridge too far. And, no matter what you or I may ultimately think about PacJuice?s culpability; that doesn't really bode too well for all those court cases - related to fraud and deception ? that Pac has (another first for boxing) either. Hmmmm , . . . . it's sure getting hard not to think that Arum and HBO are, in some way, not using the Bradley fight to cash out on Pac. Which will make it all the more interesting if he wins. I am not sure and perhaps you know (this) in an absolute sense, but . . . Sure seems like the dude (PacMan) knows how to engage mouth before brain and use the not only increasing frequency of that reliable trait ? but also its predicable results to sever relationships and sponsorship deals. Clever business moves right there folks !!!! Come to think of it; not too much seems to have gone right for Pac lately. Not since he lost to Floyd anyways. Look, maybe that will change with the upcoming Bradley fight. Who knows? :) :)


-Kid Blast :

Maybe Pac will win at the Rio Olympics and redeem himself. Then he can become President. The impish clown should just go away.


-stormcentre :

As great a champion that he has been . . . Lord knows he and Roach have certainly fooled a lot of people for a long time. It's almost over. :)


-Kid Blast :

Thank God in Heaven.


-Gabrielito :

Oscar's bashing Trump by saying that. Trump is doing what a self-respecting man has to do to win in today's Political arena. And he's doing it with ease. "Journalists" ask him sneering, personal questions designed to embarrass him. And we get mad when he fires back like a man ought to. Trump IS America. We want to be sensitive and sweet but we also want to say vicious things about a successful family man who wants to improve his country. Trump takes on the media and anyone else who f's with him because everyone who plays the nice game HAS FAILED MISERABLY. We all laugh our asses off at "Innapropriate" humor privately but gotta act shocked when a public figure displays any semblance of personality. Shame. How come you Dems aren't offering more Obama? Why so much anger and discontent in the masses? Because we don't have a $15 minimum wage? WRONG.


-Radam G :

Big Money O knows how to play his "Phony Promotion Phenomenon" card. All hail to him! Hehehe! Da BobFather has taught him well how to bulljive into selling a farce scrap into at least a billion-dollar event world wide. What a BIG puckin' coincidence that an orange toupee-wearing politrickster made BMO become a visionary for halting "hate speech and prejudice" by having two pugs from the two hated groups to come together and beat da holy sh?t out of one another. LMFAO and not hating because BMO is genius with this PPP. After all, this is the prizefighting bitnezz [$ic], not pride fighting or even dealing with da real real of the truth. And what sells the most is a play on ethnic hatred, rivalry and dumbsyet about it. I'm just the messenger calling a spade a spade and never hiding in the shade. BMO's vision -- if you want to believe that -- is more grand than the bullsyet fights where Jim Jeffries was going to save "the honor of the white race by teaching the black ?oon ('Unforgivable Blackness') Jack Johnson to stay in his place," and the Brownbomber was going to "save the free world from Nazi Germany and evil Adolf Hitler by defeating Max Scheming [name probably misspelled]. BMO has outdone da BobFather, da Don King and the late, great promoter Tex Rickard with this promotional bulljive masterpiece.
->https://m.youtube.co/watch?v=umi6OL6SMq8. Holla!


-Radam G :

Oscar's bashing Trump by saying that. Trump is doing what a self-respecting man has to do to win in today's Political arena. And he's doing it with ease. "Journalists" ask him sneering, personal questions designed to embarrass him. And we get mad when he fires back like a man ought to. Trump IS America. We want to be sensitive and sweet but we also want to say vicious things about a successful family man who wants to improve his country. Trump takes on the media and anyone else who f's with him because everyone who plays the nice game HAS FAILED MISERABLY. We all laugh our asses off at "Innapropriate" humor privately but gotta act shocked when a public figure displays any semblance of personality. Shame. How come you Dems aren't offering more Obama? Why so much anger and discontent in the masses? Because we don't have a $15 minimum wage? WRONG.
Hehehe! I'm enjoying da double fudge heck outta Yank hypocrisy and bullsyet. As da Don T's other fake-hair buddy da Don K says, "Only (by AmerKanos) -- I mean -- in America!" Holla!


-Gabrielito :

Radam, please elaborate. Why do non Americans venerate weak leaders? Who do YOU think is better for then job? I assume by calling me a Yank you're not American.


-Domenic :

Trump reminds me of Tyson Fury. He speaks his mind and unapologetically rejects political correctness. He doesn't need to conduct a poll before answering a question. Both parties are littered with all talk no action politicians. There's a reason that Trump has resonated with so many people. He will be the nominee and I guarantee you, Hillary wants NOTHING to do with a head to head contest against Trump. He will go on a warpath and at every stop will pounce on Benghazi, the email scandal, and Bill Clinton's lengthy and sordid history with women. They attacked Trump on the women issue and got countered so hard it sent their campaign into a tailspin. Hillary is rooting for Cruz/Rubio all day long over Trump. Anyone other than Trump is simply the status quo, and people have woken up to the fact that the status quo is a disaster. Trump may make it worse, but he represents something different and his popularity speaks volumes about the population's discontent.


-Radam G :

Radam, please elaborate. Why do non Americans venerate weak leaders? Who do YOU think is better for then job? I assume by calling me a Yank you're not American.
I'm a multi-citizen. I have U.S. citizen, but hardly ever live on the U.S. mainland. And when I do, it is California. I assume that you know how it is on the mainland of the USA. If you are not white or black with a Yank accent, you are not accepted as a "REAL" American. (Dumb-arse people visiting Casino in Cali be asking Native Americans what countries are they from.) I'm also a citizen of the Philippines, China (Hong Kong), Taiwan, Malaysia, UAE and Spain. BTW! No "non Americans venerate weak leaders." It doesn't matter, American or not. Da D-Trump is full of playful bullsyet. He ain't going to do five percent of the syet that he acts macho about. It is all politrick talk. If he were lucky enough to win the presidency, he would be no better than the other presidents have been. And he has already told "The New York Times that he will not build a wall or halt Arab and Muslim immigrants from pursuing the American nightmare -- I mean dream. Hehe! I'm just funning about da D-Trump. But he will not become the U.S. Prez anyway IMHO. I'm voting for whoever is running in the Green Party for prez. However, I believe that Hillary Radam -- I mean Rodham Clinton is going to easily win. Sorry for those who don't. You are just pi$$ing in the wind and it is blowing back on you. HRC has a date with destiny and history. Holla!


-brownsugar :

Trump is resonating with the fearful majority because everyone knows that caucasions will be the minority by 2040. Its getting closer to the Last hurrah for the status quo. Although there shouldn't be any concern unless you buy into the panic sauce Trump is peddling.... Doesn't matter to me because I have thrived since the 60's under Any administration. From segregation to political correction. I just don't see how a gimmicky fight between two guys who only care about ticket sales can generate so much political debate? I'm not complaining, on the contrary. This discussion is bringing out your better communication skills. The only good competitive fight to discuss is Ali and Vargas anyway...... Oh snap ....another Muslin and Mexican competing... Queue the additional politics...lol


-riverside :

Negotiations are underway for a Lucas Matthysse-Mauricio Herrera fight. Who do you pick for that @radam G ?
Avila, Mathysee has never ducked anybody and fought the best. Now Mathysee's camp is making all sorts of lame excuses not to fight Herrera!! I don't get it!! MH is ready to go, signed on the dot. Gomez and Roberto from Golden Boy are pretty much bending over backward to have Mathysee accept the fight. Lucas has already lost the first round Vs Herrera. let's get this sealed and give the fans a good fight.


-deepwater2 :

Avila, Mathysee has never ducked anybody and fought the best. Now Mathysee's camp is making all sorts of lame excuses not to fight Herrera!! I don't get it!! MH is ready to go, signed on the dot. Gomez and Roberto from Golden Boy are pretty much bending over backward to have Mathysee accept the fight. Lucas has already lost the first round Vs Herrera. let's get this sealed and give the fans a good fight.
MH is the uncrowned champ after beating up Garcia in his phony homecoming. The machine had been out boxed a few times and MH certainly can do it. The machine's people may want to put him in with a banger instead of a boxer.


-brownsugar :

MH is potentially a form of Kryptonite for Mattysse, all he needs is to drop another decision to a relatively slick boxer to cause his stock to drop(again).... I initially thought the match up was kind of strange in the first place, I can understand if Mattysse gets pulled in another direction.


-deepwater2 :

Trump is resonating with the fearful majority because everyone knows that caucasions will be the minority by 2040. Its getting closer to the Last hurrah for the status quo. Although there shouldn't be any concern unless you buy into the panic sauce Trump is peddling.... Doesn't matter to me because I have thrived since the 60's under Any administration. From segregation to political correction. I just don't see how a gimmicky fight between two guys who only care about ticket sales can generate so much political debate? I'm not complaining, on the contrary. This discussion is bringing out your better communication skills. The only good competitive fight to discuss is Ali and Vargas anyway...... Oh snap ....another Muslin and Mexican competing... Queue the additional politics...lol
Maybe some people feel that way but you have to know that the Clinton's put away more African Americans in their prison for profit scheme. The clinton 1994 crime laws decimated the African American community.She said she will bring the black youth to her heel. The leader of the kkk , senator Byrd was Clinton's mentor. The facts speak for themselves if you get past the rhetoric and tabloid gotcha attitudes. Hard facts: “When Clinton left office in 2001, the United States had the highest rate of incarceration in the world. Human Rights Watch reported that in seven states, African Americans constituted 80 to 90 percent of all drug offenders sent to prison, even though they were no more likely than whites to use or sell illegal drugs. Prison admissions for drug offenses reached a level in 2000 for African Americans more than 26 times the level in 1983. All of the presidents since 1980 have contributed to mass incarceration, but as Equal Justice Initiative founder Bryan Stevenson recently observed, “President Clinton’s tenure was the worst.” Compare that rhetoric with Trumps rhetoric. Trump says some things but look at his actions. Clinton says some things and look what she has done to keep people down. From the other end of the spectrum, Louis Farrakhan says, Trump's immigration policies are wise and he might bring home troops. The corrupt one party two headed establishment will keep the status quo and put those Clinton's back in power. A nice article :
->http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2016/02/the_clinton_legacy_decimated_black_america_so_why_are_we_still_voting_for.html The Clinton Legacy Is Black Impoverishment—so Why Are We Still Voting for them? From the crime bill to welfare reform, policies that Bill Clinton enacted—and Hillary Clinton supported—decimated black America.


-brownsugar :

Maybe some people feel that way but you have to know that the Clinton's put away more African Americans in their prison for profit scheme. The clinton 1994 crime laws decimated the African American community.She said she will bring the black youth to her heel. The leader of the kkk , senator Byrd was Clinton's mentor. The facts speak for themselves if you get past the rhetoric and tabloid gotcha attitudes. Hard facts: “When Clinton left office in 2001, the United States had the highest rate of incarceration in the world. Human Rights Watch reported that in seven states, African Americans constituted 80 to 90 percent of all drug offenders sent to prison, even though they were no more likely than whites to use or sell illegal drugs. Prison admissions for drug offenses reached a level in 2000 for African Americans more than 26 times the level in 1983. All of the presidents since 1980 have contributed to mass incarceration, but as Equal Justice Initiative founder Bryan Stevenson recently observed, “President Clinton’s tenure was the worst.” Compare that rhetoric with Trumps rhetoric. Trump says some things but look at his actions. Clinton says some things and look what she has done to keep people down. From the other end of the spectrum, Louis Farrakhan says, Trump's immigration policies are wise and he might bring home troops. The corrupt one party two headed establishment will keep the status quo and put those Clinton's back in power. A nice article :
->http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2016/02/the_clinton_legacy_decimated_black_america_so_why_are_we_still_voting_for.html The Clinton Legacy Is Black Impoverishment—so Why Are We Still Voting for them? From the crime bill to welfare reform, policies that Bill Clinton enacted—and Hillary Clinton supported—decimated black America.
This is old news Deep, and you forgot to mention the 3 strikes and your out law, poverty housing zoning practices and the still popular school to prison pipeline. All of these things still exist today but are more transparent.... it never stopped.... You're preaching to choir..... But I thrived during Clinton's administration. Some of my best years. But if ever there was a fear monger it's Trump. And he doesn't have the strategy or the tact to get things done. I'm not sensing any method from Trump. He may still get elected, it's happened before.


-deepwater2 :

This is old news Deep, and you forgot to mention the 3 strikes and your out law, poverty housing zoning practices and the still popular school to prison pipeline. All of these things still exist today but are more transparent.... it never stopped.... You're preaching to choir..... But I thrived during Clinton's administration. Some of my best years. But if ever there was a fear monger it's Trump. And he doesn't have the strategy or the tact to get things done. I'm not sensing any method from Trump. He may still get elected, it's happened before.
It might be prudent to be somewhat fearful of Trump, but we know the horror that the Clinton's have done to that demographic. It took years for the Clinton's nafta project to wipe out our manufacturing base and open the boarder to cheap labor. Guess which demographic was hit hardest by that legislation.


-brownsugar :

Funny thing is, at the time crime was big, the Black community wanted relief from excessesive crime like everyone else. The 3 strikes law along with the presidents crime initiatives sounded good. Just like Reagan's just say no campaign, while Oliver North was dropping bricks in the ghetto with the help of the CIA. However the privatization of the prison industry continued to grow exponencially after Clinton and only just recently has the funding begun to dry up. I've never been a die hard for either party.


-deepwater2 :

Funny thing is, at the time crime was big, the Black community wanted relief from excessesive crime like everyone else. The 3 strikes law along with the presidents crime initiatives sounded good. Just like Reagan's just say no campaign, while Oliver North was dropping bricks in the ghetto with the help of the CIA. However the privatization of the prison industry continued to grow exponencially after Clinton and only just recently has the funding begun to dry up. I've never been a die hard for either party.
It's one big party and guys like you and me are not invited.


-stormcentre :

It's one big party and guys like you and me are not invited.
What you said earlier about the Clintons, in my opinion, is correct. I really believe that they were (and are) not only corrupt and treated other longstanding staffers extremely poorly as a means of proactively covering tracks - but also that they became engaged in a raft of unnecessary (and sometimes violent/aggressive, and possibly also mortally terminal) issues that brought a real stain to the brand that is USA. If you listen closely to the way Hilary campaigned last (against Obama) you can clearly see that her policy detail to (like Trump's) was real short on detail. Actually, not only was it real short on detail - but it visibly/frequently changed a lot too. That's never a good sign when you already have millions hurt from the GFC and in need of decent welfare1 and health2 services. Then look at how she performed in her current role; just the email cover up drama tells you all you need to know about how transparent and self serving she is. Now - I'm no politician - and I don't practice voodoo either - so I'm just a troubled
Storm. But in my opinion those two last points1 & 2 right there show the way to meaningfully starting to address equality, curb crime and also how to begin to start stopping blaming and incarcerating the minorities for it. Of course there will be a lot of crime if you don't;

1) Provide welfare services for those without a job. 2) Provide economic stability to support the jobs required for everyone to work. 3) Provide free and reasonable health care to families and people that need it.

Now add all that to the fact that no-one really did anything about the warning signs to, and the actual, GFC; not until it was too late. And even then . . . . as if that was not bad enough . . . . Then they gave all the financial aid - not to the minorities and those whom where hit the hardest - but to those whom were close to the smoking gun. Talk about plutocracy gone made. Moving on . . . . You're also not entirely incorrect with your statements about all the stuff that's been dug up about Trump either. That said; I can't wait to see a face to face debate between Hilary and Donald. Wont that be something? Whilst she will have her moments; I bet Hilary is not looking forward to that. If I were here (with all her dirty laundry) I wouldn't be. Trump will go ballistic on her. And rightly so. :) :)


-deepwater2 :

Trump is resonating with the fearful majority because everyone knows that caucasions will be the minority by 2040. Its getting closer to the Last hurrah for the status quo. Although there shouldn't be any concern unless you buy into the panic sauce Trump is peddling.... Doesn't matter to me because I have thrived since the 60's under Any administration. From segregation to political correction. I just don't see how a gimmicky fight between two guys who only care about ticket sales can generate so much political debate? I'm not complaining, on the contrary. This discussion is bringing out your better communication skills. The only good competitive fight to discuss is Ali and Vargas anyway...... Oh snap ....another Muslin and Mexican competing... Queue the additional politics...lol
Do you think this man is part of the fearfull majority? Charles Evers, the brother of slain civil rights icon Medgar Evers, came out Friday in support of Donald Trump for president. Himself a civil rights activist who in 1969 became the first black mayor in Mississippi, Evers said the GOP front-runner has the business acumen for the job. ?I think he?s the best one right now,? Evers, 93, told The Post. ?He?s someone like me: he speaks from the hip. He?s not a politician.? Evers said the Mississippi economy would benefit from a president who could bring back industries that have fled overseas. ?We need more and more jobs. Unemployment is way up here,? he said. ?He?s hired more employees, more people, than anyone I know in the world.? Evers also tried to dispel notions that the real-estate mogul is a bigot. ?I see nothing to show he is a racist,? Evers said. ?I don?t want any party to assume they?ve got all the black vote.? Evers added, ?All of us got a little racism ? including me.?? The former mayor claimed Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton has done little for the black community and her marriage to Bill Clinton would derail her campaign. ?She got another problem trying keep him straight ? how?s she gonna try to keep the country straight?? Evers said. Economy and foreign policy are the most important thing for country. After that we can address other things or there will be no country to argue about. Abortions, gay stuff and whiny college students can take a back seat.


-deepwater2 :

What you said earlier about the Clintons, in my opinion, is correct. I really believe that they were (and are) not only corrupt and treated other longstanding staffers extremely poorly as a means of proactively covering tracks - but also that they became engaged in a raft of unnecessary (and sometimes violent/aggressive, and possibly also mortally terminal) issues that brought a real stain to the brand that is USA. If you listen closely to the way Hilary campaigned last (against Obama) you can clearly see that her policy detail to (like Trump's) was real short on detail. Actually, not only was it real short on detail - but it visibly/frequently changed a lot too. That's never a good sign when you already have millions hurt from the GFC and in need of decent welfare1 and health2 services. Then look at how she performed in her current role; just the email cover up drama tells you all you need to know about how transparent and self serving she is. Now - I'm no politician - and I don't practice voodoo either - so I'm just a troubled
Storm. But in my opinion those two last points1 & 2 right there show the way to meaningfully starting to address equality, curb crime and also how to begin to start stopping blaming and incarcerating the minorities for it. Of course there will be a lot of crime if you don't;

1) Provide welfare services for those without a job. 2) Provide economic stability to support the jobs required for everyone to work. 3) Provide free and reasonable health care to families and people that need it.

Now add all that to the fact that no-one really did anything about the warning signs to, and the actual, GFC; not until it was too late. And even then . . . . as if that was not bad enough . . . . Then they gave all the financial aid - not to the minorities and those whom where hit the hardest - but to those whom were close to the smoking gun. Talk about plutocracy gone made. Moving on . . . . You're also not entirely incorrect with your statements about all the stuff that's been dug up about Trump either. That said; I can't wait to see a face to face debate between Hilary and Donald. Wont that be something? Whilst she will have her moments; I bet Hilary is not looking forward to that. If I were here (with all her dirty laundry) I wouldn't be. Trump will go ballistic on her. And rightly so. :) :)
Chess master Kasparav..... Yes, please take Scandinavia as an example! Implementing some socialistic elements AFTER becoming a wealthy capitalist economy only works as long as you don’t choke off what made you wealthy to begin with in the process. Again, it’s a luxury item that shouldn’t be confused with what is really doing the work, as many do. And do not forget that nearly all of the countless 20th-century innovations and industries that made the rest of the developed world so efficient and comfortable came from America, and it wasn’t a coincidence. As long as Europe had America taking risks, investing ambitiously, and yes, being “inequal,” it had the luxury of benefiting from the results without making the same sacrifices. Who will be America’s America?


-deepwater2 :

Continued.... I’m enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism. Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely. But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd.


-Radam G :

Do you think this man is part of the fearfull majority? Charles Evers, the brother of slain civil rights icon Medgar Evers, came out Friday in support of Donald Trump for president. Himself a civil rights activist who in 1969 became the first black mayor in Mississippi, Evers said the GOP front-runner has the business acumen for the job. ?I think he?s the best one right now,? Evers, 93, told The Post. ?He?s someone like me: he speaks from the hip. He?s not a politician.? Evers said the Mississippi economy would benefit from a president who could bring back industries that have fled overseas. ?We need more and more jobs. Unemployment is way up here,? he said. ?He?s hired more employees, more people, than anyone I know in the world.? Evers also tried to dispel notions that the real-estate mogul is a bigot. ?I see nothing to show he is a racist,? Evers said. ?I don?t want any party to assume they?ve got all the black vote.? Evers added, ?All of us got a little racism ? including me.?? The former mayor claimed Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton has done little for the black community and her marriage to Bill Clinton would derail her campaign. ?She got another problem trying keep him straight ? how?s she gonna try to keep the country straight?? Evers said. Economy and foreign policy are the most important thing for country. After that we can address other things or there will be no country to argue about. Abortions, gay stuff and whiny college students can take a back seat.
That 93-year-old civil rights pioneer knows his syet. But da D-Trump's haters are going to say that Charles Evers is an old man with one foot in the grave. Posers, haters and ____ _____ always will have a make-no-sense alibi. And then will rationalize what racism and bigotry are. Ev'ybodee and dey momma know that da D-Trump is not a racial bigot anymore than da Don King. Both of these Dons are all about getting cheers, things going their way and increasing BIG money. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Chess master Kasparav..... Yes, please take Scandinavia as an example! Implementing some socialistic elements AFTER becoming a wealthy capitalist economy only works as long as you don?t choke off what made you wealthy to begin with in the process. Again, it?s a luxury item that shouldn?t be confused with what is really doing the work, as many do. And do not forget that nearly all of the countless 20th-century innovations and industries that made the rest of the developed world so efficient and comfortable came from America, and it wasn?t a coincidence. As long as Europe had America taking risks, investing ambitiously, and yes, being ?inequal,? it had the luxury of benefiting from the results without making the same sacrifices. Who will be America?s America? I?m enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism. Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely. But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd.
Yep Gary has some interesting insights that's for sure. That said . . . . Whilst the USA was responsible for a lot of innovation, I'm not so sure about the (absolute) accuracy of this one . . . . ""And do not forget that nearly all of the countless 20th-century innovations and industries that made the rest of the developed world so efficient and comfortable came from America, and it wasn?t a coincidence"". But I do love this one . . . . ""But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd"". :) :)


-stormcentre :

Chess master Kasparav..... Yes, please take Scandinavia as an example! Implementing some socialistic elements AFTER becoming a wealthy capitalist economy only works as long as you don’t choke off what made you wealthy to begin with in the process. Again, it’s a luxury item that shouldn’t be confused with what is really doing the work, as many do. And do not forget that nearly all of the countless 20th-century innovations and industries that made the rest of the developed world so efficient and comfortable came from America, and it wasn’t a coincidence. As long as Europe had America taking risks, investing ambitiously, and yes, being “inequal,” it had the luxury of benefiting from the results without making the same sacrifices. Who will be America’s America? I’m enjoying the irony of American Sanders supporters lecturing me, a former Soviet citizen, on the glories of Socialism and what it really means! Socialism sounds great in speech soundbites and on Facebook, but please keep it there. In practice, it corrodes not only the economy but the human spirit itself, and the ambition and achievement that made modern capitalism possible and brought billions of people out of poverty. Talking about Socialism is a huge luxury, a luxury that was paid for by the successes of capitalism. Income inequality is a huge problem, absolutely. But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd.
Yep Gary has some interesting insights that's for sure. That said . . . . Whilst the USA was responsible for a lot of innovation, I'm not so sure about the (absolute) accuracy of this one . . . .

""And do not forget that nearly all of the countless 20th-century innovations and industries that made the rest of the developed world so efficient and comfortable came from America, and it wasn’t a coincidence"".

But I do love this one . . . .

""But the idea that the solution is more government, more regulation, more debt, and less risk is dangerously absurd"".

:) :)


-brownsugar :

Do you think this man is part of the fearfull majority? Charles Evers, the brother of slain civil rights icon Medgar Evers, came out Friday in support of Donald Trump for president. Himself a civil rights activist who in 1969 became the first black mayor in Mississippi, Evers said the GOP front-runner has the business acumen for the job. “I think he’s the best one right now,” Evers, 93, told The Post. “He’s someone like me: he speaks from the hip. He’s not a politician.” Evers said the Mississippi economy would benefit from a president who could bring back industries that have fled overseas. “We need more and more jobs. Unemployment is way up here,” he said. “He’s hired more employees, more people, than anyone I know in the world.” Evers also tried to dispel notions that the real-estate mogul is a bigot. “I see nothing to show he is a racist,” Evers said. “I don’t want any party to assume they’ve got all the black vote.” Evers added, “All of us got a little racism — including me.’’ The former mayor claimed Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton has done little for the black community and her marriage to Bill Clinton would derail her campaign. “She got another problem trying keep him straight — how’s she gonna try to keep the country straight?” Evers said. Economy and foreign policy are the most important thing for country. After that we can address other things or there will be no country to argue about. Abortions, gay stuff and whiny college students can take a back seat.
I'm not sure what the personal feelings of Medgar Evers aging brother and his thoughts about "straight shooters" have to do with a relevent political opinion. The old man can think whatever he wants, But if he's 93 years old the only advise I'd happily listen to would be about nutrition. one thing we dont need is another " Texan " shooting from the hip and dropping bombs on Muslim nations based on the of fudged up intel of CIA research. Bush destabilized the middleeast in an extremely unproductive way that we still havent fully recovered from. We are still feeling the reverberation from rash decisions made nearly a decade ago. Trumps dogma is a red white and blue dipped version of "mein kopf". He wants to capitolize on the polarizing fear of terror and the fear of diversity by proposing that we bar all muslims from entering the country. The problem with that is, 65% of the muslims in the world are caucusiod, they are indistinguishable from catholics or jews. There is no way to keep out those who are determined to enter the country illegally. He also wants to wall off Mexico. Building a wall to seal off mexico could take over a decade, the money used for that project could be spent on education or energy reseach. When you listen to Trump all he does is feed the insecurities of people who are trying to make sense of where their shopping malls, affordable healthcare and housing have gone. He has no answer for the rising cost of health care, prescription drugs or where we'll get our clean water and energy over the next decade. The entire pool of presidential canidates are as hapless and as impotent a bunch as I've seen in ages. Our products are being reverse engineered overseas by workers who get paid one fifth the wages of fat overpaid union workers who take every friday and monday off, and then the faulty merchadise is sold back to us while we look the otherway because of the trillion dollar loans the united states took out to feed the economy during the Bush administration. I wonder how many lobbying committees Trump sat on to get favorable laws passed that empowered his business but left wage slaves in a detrimental position? He's said nothing about correcting the law enforcement culture that butchers minorities on camera without penalty of law or the dwindling quality of healthcare and the rising cost of premiums to pay for that care. You have to be a nutritional expert just to keep from blowing your hard earned paychech on the government sanctioned poison that passes for medicine. I appreciate your opinion... you say we need jobs, .....I say we need a *Fuckin' revolution, but unfortunately most of the country is too interested in watching JackAss part 3, the Donald Trump Story,


-deepwater2 :

The Texan dropped bombs for sure but so is the current puppet in charge. Invasion of Libya , funding isis, selling the savage Saudi Arabian regime nukes to bomb Yemen. YouTube - neutron bombs in Yeman. Nothing changes with the establishment in power. The great lie is that there is a dimes worth of difference between the two corrupt parties. Clean water? The republican gov and the democratic EPA just poisoned Michigan. Where are the arrests? Nation of Islam Leader Farrakhan says Trumps immigration plan is wise. Not all Muslims are banned but Muslims from areas of conflict must be vetted. Trump says he will look into 9-11 and says the Saudis were responsible and not Iraq, have you heard that anywhere? BS every country has a border. If a wall is needed , especially with the drug problems and terrorist threats, than a wall is needed. Anything to protect the country. Trumps run is actually a peaceful revolution. The people are sick and tired of it all. Think through the emotion and ask yourself you is not owned by outside groups.


-stormcentre :

I get scared when they start talking about the USA/Mexican wall like it's going to be a USA version of the Berlin wall. I'm starting to really get concerned about the quality of cocaine that will make it past the border if the wall is really needed and it really works. Nothing wrong with being a concerned cocaine citizen. After all, at least 50% of Cali's tourism industry relies on it. Or so I am told. Anything to protect tourism, relaxing, and having fun. :) :)


-deepwater2 :

Start hanging with Israelis' then. The best ecstasy comes from there. How are those immigration laws doing over there in Oz? : Australia has implemented one of the harshest border policies in the world. It is characterised by three core points: turning or towing back boats of asylum seekers at sea; forcing asylum seekers to live in detention centres across the Pacific in Nauru and Papua New Guinea; and guaranteeing they will never be resettled in Australia.


-Radam G :

The Texan dropped bombs for sure but so is the current puppet in charge. Invasion of Libya , funding isis, selling the savage Saudi Arabian regime nukes to bomb Yemen. YouTube - neutron bombs in Yeman. Nothing changes with the establishment in power. The great lie is that there is a dimes worth of difference between the two corrupt parties. Clean water? The republican gov and the democratic EPA just poisoned Michigan. Where are the arrests? Nation of Islam Leader Farrakhan says Trumps immigration plan is wise. Not all Muslims are banned but Muslims from areas of conflict must be vetted. Trump says he will look into 9-11 and says the Saudis were responsible and not Iraq, have you heard that anywhere? BS every country has a border. If a wall is needed , especially with the drug problems and terrorist threats, than a wall is needed. Anything to protect the country. Trumps run is actually a peaceful revolution. The people are sick and tired of it all. Think through the emotion and ask yourself you is not owned by outside groups.
Just as I expected and told you, you were going to get bullsyet about Evers being an old man. And bulljive about Bush destroying Iraq, and blinding about Prez O doing some dumb syet and destroying the stability of 11 Islamic countries and causing the government of six to be overthrown. Now in these 17 countries, dumb-arse, making-up-a-religion fanatics have taken over the governments and are coming for the U.S.A. And every d@mn place else. Y'all know me! I'm down with O-P-P. And calling a spade a spade and not hiding in the shade. Farrakhan and da D-Trump are strange bedfellows, but they are spot on. And in this scrap together against hypocrisy and nutty-ism. Terrorists who have been created by Prez O's incompetence are rolling up in the P-Islands, but we have terrorist RAID, and are dropping these pesky sickos like flies. Pucking bytch-arse "ISIS in the Philipines" won't be cutting off anymore heads up in the P-Islands. Meanwhile: Da Manny has gotten his mojo back. We're going back to Cali in a few days. T-Brad and the great Teddy Atlas are in for a thrashing. Holla!


-brownsugar :

The Texan dropped bombs for sure but so is the current puppet in charge. Invasion of Libya , funding isis, selling the savage Saudi Arabian regime nukes to bomb Yemen. YouTube - neutron bombs in Yeman. Nothing changes with the establishment in power. The great lie is that there is a dimes worth of difference between the two corrupt parties. Clean water? The republican gov and the democratic EPA just poisoned Michigan. Where are the arrests? Nation of Islam Leader Farrakhan says Trumps immigration plan is wise. Not all Muslims are banned but Muslims from areas of conflict must be vetted. Trump says he will look into 9-11 and says the Saudis were responsible and not Iraq, have you heard that anywhere? BS every country has a border. If a wall is needed , especially with the drug problems and terrorist threats, than a wall is needed. Anything to protect the country. Trumps run is actually a peaceful revolution. The people are sick and tired of it all. Think through the emotion and ask yourself you is not owned by outside groups.
I appreciate the civil and intelligent conversation Deep. I bet you could keep this up all week. But I can't, because I know my mindset will not change, and the continually shifting subject matter will continue to warp in and out of any reasonable parameters we place upon it. But I will say this: Trump has tossed his hat into the political arena before, either by suggestion, by trying to write himself in or just for the purpose of testing the waters. Each time he was soundly tossed out by virtue of being unelectable or by being just too unqualified for the job. But it seems that the further this nation sinks to the bottom of the barrel, the deeper into the bottom of the barrel the American people keep searching in hopes of finding a solution. This time they fished out Donald. Donald is not so much what's sad about the country as the popular mentality that would even consider him as a valid choice for president in my opinion. I almost hope he gets elected so his supporters can see how wrong they are. In the meantime I will leave an example in the link below, of the type of minority support Mr Trump is looking for. His name is Andrew Dunscombe from Oklahoma. He calls him self the "Black Rebel". Dunscombe is a staunch Trump supporter, perhaps he can get Medgars' brother and Ben Carson to join him...lol.....
->http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K69ChAqkU-Y


-deepwater2 :

I appreciate the civil and intelligent conversation Deep. I bet you could keep this up all week. But I can't, because I know my mindset will not change, and the continually shifting subject matter will continue to warp in and out of any reasonable parameters we place upon it. But I will say this: Trump has tossed his hat into the political arena before, either by suggestion, by trying to write himself in or just for the purpose of testing the waters. Each time he was soundly tossed out by virtue of being unelectable or by being just too unqualified for the job. But it seems that the further this nation sinks to the bottom of the barrel, the deeper into the bottom of the barrel the American people keep searching in hopes of finding a solution. This time they fished out Donald. Donald is not so much what's sad about the country as the popular mentality that would even consider him as a valid choice for president in my opinion. I almost hope he gets elected so his supporters can see how wrong they are. In the meantime I will leave an example in the link below, of the type of minority support Mr Trump is looking for. His name is Andrew Dunscombe from Oklahoma. He calls him self the "Black Rebel". Dunscombe is a staunch Trump supporter, perhaps he can get Medgars' brother and Ben Carson to join him...lol.....
->http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K69ChAqkU-Y
Thanks man. Hey good for that rebel. He believes in something. Whether or not we agree with him we must agree that he has a right to pursue his happiness. The smallest minority is the individual. Make some time: the history books and the tabloids lie. A little search for truth brings big results. Lincoln never gave one care about freeing the slaves. The number one reason Lincoln fought the war was $$$. Abraham Lincoln repeatedly stated his war was caused by taxes only, and not by slavery, at all. "My policy sought only to collect the Revenue (a 40 percent federal sales tax on imports to Southern States under the Morrill Tariff Act of 1861)." reads paragraph 5 of Lincoln's First Message to the U.S. Congress, penned July 4, 1861. "I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so," Lincoln said it his first inaugural on March 4 of the same year. There is no proof of Lincoln ever declaring the war was fought to abolish slavery, and without such an official statement, the war-over-slavery teaching remains a complete lie and offensive hate speech that divides Americans, as is being done now by the media and politicians regarding the Confederate flag in South Carolina. Slavery was NOT abolished; just the name was changed to sharecropper with over 5 million Southern whites and 3 million Southern blacks working on land stolen by Wall Street bankers. White, black, Indian, Hispanic, Protestant, Catholic and Jewish Confederates valiantly stood as one in thousands of battles on land and sea. Afterwards, they attended Confederate Veterans' reunions together and received pensions from Southern States.


-stormcentre :

Start hanging with Israelis' then. The best ecstasy comes from there. How are those immigration laws doing over there in Oz? : Australia has implemented one of the harshest border policies in the world. It is characterised by three core points: turning or towing back boats of asylum seekers at sea; forcing asylum seekers to live in detention centres across the Pacific in Nauru and Papua New Guinea; and guaranteeing they will never be resettled in Australia.

Immigration laws: yep we're all go there and 100% successful, so long as you don't ask us to explain. Sound familiar? :) Yep, we sure know how to completely screw up anything to do with the so called "boat people" drama. Like your gun laws, drug importation/exportation, Mexican and Muslim issues; it is a complex issue. As many poor/disadvantaged Australians say; ""why should outsiders get benefits that could otherwise assist "real Aussies" who have paid their taxes for decades"?". That's not an unfair question? Then on the other hand you have the humanitarian issue that states; ""why should we - a 3rd world country living in relatively good times - not assist refugees and others whom live in such poor conditions that it makes . . . . .
(ii) leaving both their family and country of origin,
(ii) human trafficking,
(iii) illegal immigration, and
(iv) a few weeks of dangerously uncharted seas whilst packed like sardines into a stolen shipping container (if you're lucky) that's loosely fixed to the deck of a makeshift sloop that itself takes on such a noticeable percentage of the water that the term semisubmersible may be a better description for it. . . . . seem like a decent alternative?"" Still regardless of the philosophy and emotion . . . . It's been a longstanding point of failure and scandal for us, for years now. If we don't turn the boats back and force them to sail into stormy seas and face the same (or worse) conditions that both, are inhumane and they have just survived in order for our navy to greet them - then we usually either;

A) Blow them out of their sea vessels before we can identify them and use the resulting scenario as a newsworthy story; cheque-book journalism. B) Or, we make sure they face further inhumane conditions by housing them in tents and privately run detention centres in remote/hot locations, where they feel right (back) at home (or worse).

What wee need is Trump to come over here and join forces with our new Prime Minister Turnbull; so that we get a policy that truly deals with both this problem and our incompetence in the same way that that big USA V Mexican/Muslim wall will do for you guys.
Papua New Guinea: in PNG it is not entirely unusual for people - including those working in the PNG parliament - to be stabbed/speared to death and/or be savaged "accidentally" by animals; with absolutely no repercussions. Another interesting point about PNG is that they practice voodoo there, so perhaps our resident "Brother V" will chime in and enlighten us. :)
Ecstasy: Not sure about Israel as being the best origin for the good old disco biscuits. Perhaps it's a good spot for products of an opiate derivative. I am advised that the purest Molly comes from Netherlands and/or around that area. As not only are some of the more recent precursors and catalysts not illegal there - but also whilst MDMA is a scheduled/controlled substance there the fact remains that in the Netherlands possession of small amounts of MDMA for personal use is by/large generally both ignored and not prosecuted. And - from looking at USA's "medicinal Marijuana market" and where the same substance is deemed to be for personal use - yawl all know what that means for Marijuana and MDMA's prevalence and law enforcement within their respective geographies. :)