Errol Spence Jr vs Chris Algieri Brooklyn-Bound on April 16

Errol Spence Jr vs Chris Algieri – The Barclays Center will host boxing on April 16th as the Premier Boxing Champions will present a card headlined by Errol Spence Jr (19-0) as he takes on Chris Algieri (21-2). The main events of the evening are set to air on NBC

As a native New Yorker, Algieri will be fighting at home and the last two years have seen him keep a level of competition that is much higher than what Spence has faced. Spence Jr versus Chris Algieri has been announced as the main event of the show, so this is his step up into the headline fights of a very big show.

Spence, the former Olympian, is considered one of the brightest prospects in the welterweight division.  His last fight, when he knocked out Alejandro Barrera (28-2) in the 5th round, was his first match that was scheduled for 12 rounds. Algieri is going to be considered a marked step up in competition for Spence, but he should enter the fight a betting favorite at the sport books.

Errol Spence Jr vs Chris Algieri Brooklyn-Bound on April 16

The second bout announced for the card sees WBO World Cruiserweight champion Krzystof Glowacki (25-0) defend his belt against former world champion Steve Cunningham (28-7-1).

Glowacki is undefeated and he is coming off a war with Marco Huck last August that saw him emerge with the WBO Cruiserweight title and the #1 ranking in the weight class with the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board.

As for Cunningham, he returns to the cruiserweight division after a hard luck run at Heavyweight that saw him go 3-3-1 officially. His last outing saw him earn a draw with Antonio Tarver.  Though Tarver has subsequently tested positive for PEDs (Performance Enhancing Drugs) and is under suspension by the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board, the draw has not been changed to a no contest. Now 39 years old, Cunningham returns to the weight class where he has held the IBF title on two separate occasions.

Look for more details on the card to come together in the coming days, but with a venue like the Barclays Center and the slot on NBC television in the United States, you should expect the announcement of additional quality fights.

COMMENTS

-Radam G :

I've never been impressed with the Long Star State Spence. I think that a JDJ-trained Empire State C-Al can upset him. Holla!


-Yogo :

Would it be such an upset though? Algieri ran into Manny's last ever proper performance, he was just unlucky in that sense. I don't see a lot of love for Chris but i reckon he's a tough dedicated SOB who's gives good pugs problems. Having said all that i'm backing Spence on points, It's a good match up and i'm looking forward to it.


-deepwater2 :

Good to see spence make a big move. He has been matched the right way on the way up.


-brownsugar :

Now this I want to see, much respect to Algieri for taking the challenge, I take back every hobbiest boxer and healthcare professional joke that I have ever said about the man. I look at this fight as a much more dangerous and risky move than fighting Pac and Provodnikov. Because Fighting Pac will get you paid, ... Fighting Provodnikov will get you a decent payday and a huge reputation if you win. But fighting a high energy non stop banger like Spence can get a man busted up and left for dead in the rankings, thank you Algieri for taking the risk and daring to defy the odds.


-Chris L :

I like this fight, gotta give props to Algieri for taking big fight after big fight.


-amayseng :

I like this fight, gotta give props to Algieri for taking big fight after big fight.
Agreed, he gave Khan a hell of a fight and looked pretty good at times doing it. His resume is getting better and better and maybe in a few years Spence will add to it.


-stormcentre :

Good fight. Spence has way too many skills for Algieri. Spence is more skilled than Pacquaio. More skilled than Khan. More skilled than anyone Chris has fought before in traditional two handed boxing. Spence's movement, balance/positioning, speed, agility, counterpunching, and accuracy may present real issues for Chris. The only thing we don't know (about Spence) is how tough he really is, what happens if he gets hit, and how many of his Olympic skills he can retain for 10/12 rounds. And this will tell us. Clever fight for Spence. As he has the ability to dispose of Chris in a better fashion than both Pacquaio or Khan; and from there it's less easy to deny his ascension. :)


-Bernie Campbell :

Manny has spoken! Manny has spoken up against gay marriage again. I wonder if the judges are gonna rob him like the first time he said before fight number one!


-SouthPawFlo :

Good Step Up fight for Spence, Much Respect for Chris Al because he's been in tough in all of his fights lately... I ultimately see Spence winning by Stoppage, but Chris is gonna fight his heart out.... Spence throws a lot of punches and has power in both hands and will surely go for the kill when/if he gets Chris Hurt


-Radam G :

Good Step Up fight for Spence, Much Respect for Chris Al because he's been in tough in all of his fights lately... I ultimately see Spence winning by Stoppage, but Chris is gonna fight his heart out.... Spence throws a lot of punches and has power in both hands and will surely go for the kill when/if he gets Chris Hurt
Spence has fought a lot of zombies, marshmallows and cavaders. I ain't into being tricked by optical illusions. C-Al is going to skool Spence. But don't be surprised if the powers that be bent over far to give Spence a gift. What warn body has he fought? Help me out? I wanna watch that bout on Daily Motion. Holla!


-miguel1 :

Spence has fought a lot of zombies, marshmallows and cavaders. I ain't into being tricked by optical illusions. C-Al is going to skool Spence. But don't be surprised if the powers that be bent over far to give Spence a gift. What warn body has he fought? Help me out? I wanna watch that bout on Daily Motion. Holla!
Very surprised - it is so unusual for you and storm to disagree hehehehe


-Radam G :

Very surprised - it is so unusual for you and storm to disagree hehehehe
Hehehe! You got jokes. Errol Spence is no Errol Flynn in "The Roots of Heaven." Spence is going to be in a mine field of the squared jungle where he cannot perpetrated a fraud and bulljive, so he is going to be exposed and disabled and taken apart like a bomb by C-Al as if C-Al is a bomb disabling crack pro. Trainer JDJ got C-Al on a diet of wood ashes mixed in beet blood, eggs and maca. Spence is going to think that he is in a Texas Praire blizzard. Holla!


-Radam G :

BTW! C-Al is educated in health and nutrition. So he knows the diet of whup @$$ for the super-hype, over-praised Texan. Spence is not of the cloth of Texas's ATG welterweight Curtis Coke or Don Curry. Spence is just another one of tsAH's push-in-place jobs. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Very surprised - it is so unusual for you and storm to disagree hehehehe
Stirring the pot are we M1? It's OK. Well . . . I have a friend from Boston and over there they sometimes have a way of saying something funny (or otherwise) whilst not necessarily being accountable for it. Now, don't get me wrong, as I like how they do it. They do it by using the starting phrase of ""I wanna say (insert potentially controversial claim in here) . . . ."" . . . . . but then, just at the end, they remove almost all accountability for the statement by completing it with the phrase of "" . . . but . . I wont say that"". Sorta gives them a licence to say things that you might otherwise not. It's sorta like how funny it is when a lawyer tells the jury outrageous information that he knows could prejudice them and the case like . . ""yes, but you have several previous convictions for international arms smuggling don't you, so this is not the first time is it? . . ."", but then immediately - before the judge can reprimand him - follows it up with ""withdrawn your Honour"". So, in that vein I wanna say . . . .

That it matters not whether we disagree, but (more of) whether we speak of the truth, can explain, and what the win/loss rate is in that context. And we all know where those odds stand and what the figures say.

But I won't say that. Radam knows that - despite all the chances I have given and all the (deserved) slappings I have dished out (whether he's standing on his own 2 feet or backed up by any number of Queens), I;

a) Not only can and have (even though I would prefer not to) taken him/them all on and have flogged them all senseless to the point where it is clear where the substance of the "debate" lies. b) When all is said and done, just really love to exploit the humour in what happens; but will defend myself if required.

That said, I tip my hat to MMMRG. As I have noticed lately we have less "triple world champion I will prove it but not if asked to donkey magic elixir claims" and more of just what he feels will happen in the boxing realm. Now whomever said a cow can't change its colours? "Moo" Radam, may - I don't know - have a vested interest in wanting Algieri to either not get beaten by Spence - or for Spence to look less spectacular beating Chris than Pacman did. Therein (probably) lies the motivation for our Pinoy Posting Phenom. As I said previously Spence has more skills than Pac, and more than Khan too, and right now not only is he looking very sharp - but he also has some very good instincts on him. Chris better hope he can wear him down or slug it out, because (stamina issues and lucky punches aside) he won't out smart/speed Spence. This (stamina issues and lucky punches aside) will be a boxing lesson and a case in point on why (traditional) boxing - even though there are less striking weapons (no feet) - can sometimes be a little more technical and majestic than some kick boxers or MMA fighters/followers might otherwise think. "Moo"ving on . . . silly
Storm . . . I only just noticed that my Harry Greb avatar is missing. This must have all happened when the forum application was recently updated; I guess. Ah well, at least with it goes the (often explained but deliberately misinterpreted for the purpose of group harassment) legacy of
Storm being perceived as a moderator; something that initially happened without my knowledge and only due to the fact that I was the last forum-competition moderator. And, as an example of how things are selectively looked at and deliberately (group) misinterpreted for the purposes of all the (questionable) claims/activities I slapped down last year, we need look no further than here . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79245&viewfull=1#post79245 Where I categorically stated I was not the moderator. This (truth that could potentially get in the way of a good bullying session) did not stop Queens and Puppies though. :) And, I am pretty sure that no-one requires me to go back and trundle through all the (tens of) subsequent posts/cases and examples that both ignored and ensued that actual "moderator clarification" post that
Storm;

a) Not only released in direct response to a single poster's question about it. b) But also created a purpose made thread especially for *pretenders to access the truth to house it in. c) Therefore delivered to the masses; rather than just the poster requesting clarification.

Which would accurately illustrate how . . the same people - over and over - pretended to not know uncomfortable truths and facts in order to justify a continuation of bullying via ridiculing a "so called" moderating status (that never existed); even though the actual role is (beneath me and) easily within my capacity. As proven by the above-mentioned win/loss ratio; that I wanted to talk about - but then didn't - Boston style baby!!!!. Ah . . it's a scream. For a laugh . . . take a look (within the above-linked thread's first few posts/pages) at the absolute fear that (the meaning of) the thread's title struck into the eyes of those posters whom panicked and thought (knew?) they would suffer the most, if they were truly not allowed to ever "fabricate" and "pretend". That was rolled gold discovered "Eureka style" at the cervical girdle of a virgin supermodel with eyes only for you; immediately after your best sexually euphoric moment with her. Now, with all that valuable information out in the open . . . All that remains is whether I retain my Harry Greb avatar, or move to one that is perhaps more representative of either who I am and/or my background in this sport. Best wishes to all (and Deep love to the Amaseing Queens/puppies); keep it real.
Storm :) :)


-stormcentre :

Hehehe! You got jokes. Errol Spence is no Errol Flynn in "The Roots of Heaven." Spence is going to be in a mine field of the squared jungle where he cannot perpetrated a fraud and bulljive, so he is going to be exposed and disabled and taken apart like a bomb by C-Al as if C-Al is a bomb disabling crack pro. Trainer JDJ got C-Al on a diet of wood ashes mixed in beet blood, eggs and maca. Spence is going to think that he is in a Texas Praire blizzard. Holla!
What????
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?13547-WTF!-Lil-Kim-is-Pregnant-And-Word-is-That-Money-May-is-The-Big-Poppa&p=45067&viewfull=1#post45067
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79438&viewfull=1#post79438 Quick Radam . . . This is clearly urgent and critical . . . . Put a call through to JDJ then, and severely reprimand him for not including your famous;

a) "Fast handed watermelon seed" elixir. b) "Black cherry juice recipe" that makes blood circulate at thirty thousand times a sexond for max relaxation and a blast of speed of extremities.

My god, no wonder Chris is going to lose to Spence when his diet is this inadequate. Not only that but he will now probably also get arthritis of the neck later in life also (Roger Mayweather) style; due to him not being introduced to your other Arthritis curing remedies that are no doubt boiled up over a campfire whilst feathers and face paint is donned. Love it!!!! Given the above, I doubt Chris Algieri's nutritional/health studies - nor the educational facility they originate from - would surely not have even touched upon the science at work here with your claims. "Moo". :) :)


-SuperLight :

What????
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?13547-WTF!-Lil-Kim-is-Pregnant-And-Word-is-That-Money-May-is-The-Big-Poppa&p=45067&viewfull=1#post45067
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79438&viewfull=1#post79438 Quick Radam . . . This is clearly urgent and critical . . . . Put a call through to JDJ then, and severely reprimand him for not including your famous;

a) "Fast handed watermelon seed" elixir. b) "Black cherry juice recipe" that makes blood circulate at thirty thousand times a sexond for max relaxation and a blast of speed of extremities.

My god, no wonder Chris is going to lose to Spence when his diet is this inadequate. Not only that but he will now probably also get arthritis of the neck later in life also (Roger Mayweather) style; due to him not being introduced to your other Arthritis curing remedies that are no doubt boiled up over a campfire whilst feathers and face paint is donned. Love it!!!! Given the above, I doubt Chris Algieri's nutritional/health studies - nor the educational facility they originate from - would surely not have even touched upon the science at work here with your claims. "Moo". :) :)
I can't say much about the diet after reading Radam/JDJ's plans. I will say Algieri looked better against Khan than against Pacquiao. Does it mean he'll have Spence's arse? I doubt it. And Pac knocking down Algieri, let's call it 5 times, without knocking him out... is that more or less spectacular than actually getting a KO or technical? Does the handsome boy actually have a good chin and guts, or is it extra difficult to buzz a guy on his back foot? I'm not taking the ****, I'd like to know how you(se) =) see it. BTW, stormcentre, I vote for Tszyu and Lewis if you can sort out your avatar. Fenech or Harding would do nicely too.


-deepwater2 :

Ha. The great Harry Greb had enough. If you look at Spence , the level of opposition ,it is much better than the usual prospect coming up. No great fighters but good journeymen that don't just pull a Malik Scott.


-deepwater2 :

I can't say much about the diet after reading Radam/JDJ's plans. I will say Algieri looked better against Khan than against Pacquiao. Does it mean he'll have Spence's arse? I doubt it. And Pac knocking down Algieri, let's call it 5 times, without knocking him out... is that more or less spectacular than actually getting a KO or technical? Does the handsome boy actually have a good chin and guts, or is it extra difficult to buzz a guy on his back foot? I'm not taking the ****, I'd like to know how you(se) =) see it. BTW, stormcentre, I vote for Tszyu and Lewis if you can sort out your avatar. Fenech or Harding would do nicely too.
I have to say Algieri has guts. I watched him at the huntington hilton in the beginning of his boxing career and I thought he was a novice hype job. But surprisingly , He held his own against Siberian Rocky( I still thought S Rocky won that 1). He survived PAC and Khan. I think CA is getting the best out if whatever ability he has. He will have a few fights, have some money in the bank and buy a couple of rental properties, after that he has the world in front of him. I met him a few times and I say he is a good kid. A little annoying but what can you expect from a kid that went to St Anthony's .


-Radam G :

I can't say much about the diet after reading Radam/JDJ's plans. I will say Algieri looked better against Khan than against Pacquiao. Does it mean he'll have Spence's arse? I doubt it. And Pac knocking down Algieri, let's call it 5 times, without knocking him out... is that more or less spectacular than actually getting a KO or technical? Does the handsome boy actually have a good chin and guts, or is it extra difficult to buzz a guy on his back foot? I'm not taking the ****, I'd like to know how you(se) =) see it. BTW, stormcentre, I vote for Tszyu and Lewis if you can sort out your avatar. Fenech or Harding would do nicely too.
You have to understand that da game has certain levels. And those at the bottom, the posers, the fakers and sh?theads don't know syet about boksing, especially the about various types of diets. And these trolls make up syet on da fly and believe that ev'ybodee and dey momma are on roids and PEDs because of crazy speed and pop. But none of these diets are hard to find. Not only that. But from the beginning of time, elite soldiers and athletes were known for dieting on wood arshes deliberately, culturally and scientifically put them in their foods cut with salt. And not only that, but common people cooked with wood arshes and were known to throw the arshes out in their gardens. One of the reasons that Asians still live longer than other people is that we -- most of us -- still put wood arshes and salt in our foods on da reg. Plus we throw the extra burn wood arshes on the fields were we plant our fruits, veggies and rice. Being in Hong Kong, you should know that tradition, SuperLight. The royalty was known to live for a 130 years for their diet of wood arshes mixed in black rice. And the stealth martial art warriors were especially known for their super strength, speed, balance and endurance from that diet. Holla!


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Styles make fights and Algieri is made to order for Spence. This fight will not go the distance. Spence is naturally bigger and is very educated at going to the body. Algieri better be able to stay on his bicycle for 10-12 rounds.


-deepwater2 :

Styles make fights and Algieri is made to order for Spence. This fight will not go the distance. Spence is naturally bigger and is very educated at going to the body. Algieri better be able to stay on his bicycle for 10-12 rounds.
I think Southpaw Spence wins. Algieri will box and move, if he can't get any respect from Spence , I see a RSC.


-Radam G :

Styles make fights and Algieri is made to order for Spence. This fight will not go the distance. Spence is naturally bigger and is very educated at going to the body. Algieri better be able to stay on his bicycle for 10-12 rounds.
We will see. Styles also come about by who you have fought. Spence is wide-stiff legged with his chin up in the clouds. He flings and slings punches instead of shooting them. He drops his claws while he is squared up. And he has a problem being loosy-goosy and rushes syet straight forward like a blind bear who smells honey. E--Spence locks punches, profiles and picture takes. He's been fighting zombies, mummies and marshmallows. And what does he do well? Bulljive the fanfaronades and the naive. Besides nobody has stopped C-Al in boxing. And E-Spence won't be the first. (Where is the Commish?) E-Spence is going to roll up in dat squared jungle c0cksure and is going to get exposed like fungus on the pipes under an old, dripping sink. Away at E-Spence, C-Al is going to be nipping. And E-Spence is going to fall a part. E-Spence is not as smooth as butter. He remindful of perpetrating a fraud lard. And these perpetrators come alone in da game a dime a dozen. Spotting them ain't hard. Holla!


-stormcentre :

You have to understand that da game has certain levels. And those at the bottom, the posers, the fakers and sh?theads don't know syet about boksing, especially the about various types of diets. And these trolls make up syet on da fly and believe that ev'ybodee and dey momma are on roids and PEDs because of crazy speed and pop. But none of these diets are hard to find. Not only that. But from the beginning of time, elite soldiers and athletes were known for dieting on wood arshes deliberately, culturally and scientifically put them in their foods cut with salt. And not only that, but common people cooked with wood arshes and were known to throw the arshes out in their gardens. One of the reasons that Asians still live longer than other people is that we -- most of us -- still put wood arshes and salt in our foods on da reg. Plus we throw the extra burn wood arshes on the fields were we plant our fruits, veggies and rice. Being in Hong Kong, you should know that tradition, SuperLight. The royalty was known to live for a 130 years for their diet of wood arshes mixed in black rice. And the stealth martial art warriors were especially known for their super strength, speed, balance and endurance from that diet. Holla!
Can't argue with that. MMMRG knows what he is talking about, is on the best, and the scientific proof is explained really well. God bless and 30,000 circulations of blood per second to the wood arsh extremeties to everyone then!!!! Wicked. :) :)


-stormcentre :

I can't say much about the diet after reading Radam/JDJ's plans. I will say Algieri looked better against Khan than against Pacquiao. Does it mean he'll have Spence's arse? I doubt it. And Pac knocking down Algieri, let's call it 5 times, without knocking him out... is that more or less spectacular than actually getting a KO or technical? Does the handsome boy actually have a good chin and guts, or is it extra difficult to buzz a guy on his back foot? I'm not taking the ****, I'd like to know how you(se) =) see it. BTW, stormcentre, I vote for Tszyu and Lewis if you can sort out your avatar. Fenech or Harding would do nicely too.
I think Chris did a pretty good job against all; Pac, Khan, and Provodnikov. None of them - for Chris - were "gimme" fights by any means. There's no doubt Chris is a tough, durable, and resilient fighter; he's proven that. But as you go up the food chain the difference in the skill, *durability, and stamina requirements can start to show; and Chris probably only has one of those *elements completely down pat and in better shape than Spence. But Spence seems pretty durable/tough too; so it's not like it's a great deficit - at least not while Spence is fresh. You could possibly debate the stamina between the two. But Errol looks in good shape too, plus he doesn't seem to fight in a manner where he's too overly concerned about his batteries in the latter rounds; and you don't (successfully) fight in a high output manner like that unless your tank is always full and easily replenished. Chris doesn't have too many special effects and that saves gas; whereas Spence seems to carry his along with him and still retain them into the later rounds. Skill has to go to Spence; not Algieri. I think Spence - if he retains his speed/skills in the latter rounds, and it gets to them - will beat on Algieri. It's pretty hard to train for and handle a guy that is really fast, elusive, skilled, and likes to comes forward; even in the later rounds. OK, to your remarks about Pac and Chris. Pacquaio did well against him; I'm not sure the flack he received from Roger/Floyd Mayweather - as funny as it was - for not being able to stop Algieri was all that accurate. Probably - if anything negative - more an indication of the way Pac fights, can be at times stuck in 1 style/approach, and just went for too many head shots. That said; it's pretty hard to beat on a guy and get him out of there, if he's still got the energy to run all the time; as Chris did with Pac. That said I did expect Pac to stop Chris; but perhaps Chris is just really tough. Must be because he got up after every time Manny dropped him. But back to Spence. He's a guy that has;

a) Not only a good amateur pedigree and seems intent on retaining all the nice technical nuances he's picked up. b) But has also come through the ranks in a manner you can respect. As (even though he's always looked good doing it) he hasn't always fought easy fights; especially when you compare his transition to other fighters - like say Diego DeLay Hoya.

So I expect him to fight smart, see what Chris has got, and then start to drop in some clever/fast moves to see how well Chris adjusts. Then when it's clear what Chris is uncomfortable with; the technical (therein lies the difference between how Pac charged in) pressure will be turned up and mistakes/weakness will be exploited. Take it easy. :) :)


-brownsugar :

I think Chris did a pretty good job against all; Pac, Khan, and Provodnikov. None of them - for Chris - were "gimme" fights by any means. There's no doubt Chris is a tough, durable, and resilient fighter; he's proven that. But as you go up the food chain the difference in the skill, *durability, and stamina requirements can start to show; and Chris probably only has one of those *elements completely down pat and in better shape than Spence. But Spence seems pretty durable/tough too; so it's not like it's a great deficit - at least not while Spence is fresh. You could possibly debate the stamina between the two. But Errol looks in good shape too, plus he doesn't seem to fight in a manner where he's too overly concerned about his batteries in the latter rounds; and you don't (successfully) fight in a high output manner like that unless your tank is always full and easily replenished. Chris doesn't have too many special effects and that saves gas; whereas Spence seems to carry his along with him and still retain them into the later rounds. Skill has to go to Spence; not Algieri. I think Spence - if he retains his speed/skills in the latter rounds, and it gets to them - will beat on Algieri. It's pretty hard to train for and handle a guy that is really fast, elusive, skilled, and likes to comes forward; even in the later rounds. OK, to your remarks about Pac and Chris. Pacquaio did well against him; I'm not sure the flack he received from Roger/Floyd Mayweather - as funny as it was - for not being able to stop Algieri was all that accurate. Probably - if anything negative - more an indication of the way Pac fights, can be at times stuck in 1 style/approach, and just went for too many head shots. That said; it's pretty hard to beat on a guy and get him out of there, if he's still got the energy to run all the time; as Chris did with Pac. That said I did expect Pac to stop Chris; but perhaps Chris is just really tough. Must be because he got up after every time Manny dropped him. But back to Spence. He's a guy that has;

a) Not only a good amateur pedigree and seems intent on retaining all the nice technical nuances he's picked up. b) But has also come through the ranks in a manner you can respect. As (even though he's always looked good doing it) he hasn't always fought easy fights; especially when you compare his transition to other fighters - like say Diego DeLay Hoya.

So I expect him to fight smart, see what Chris has got, and then start to drop in some clever/fast moves to see how well Chris adjusts. Then when it's clear what Chris is uncomfortable with; the technical (therein lies the difference between how Pac charged in) pressure will be turned up and mistakes/weakness will be exploited. Take it easy. :) :)
You're right about Spence's stamina, Storm.........the kid is a non stop dynamo who throws spirited, rib buckling combo's in every round. You have to look at some of the established and up and coming eastern block fighters to find another fighter who has the same type of fortitude and work ethic. My only concern is the kid is low on body fat, I'm not saying that Spence will be compromised for the Algieri fight, I'm just saying Spence needs to go after the title soon becsuse he won't be a welterweight for long. He blacked Mayweather's eye preparing him for Canelo, and he had Broner out on his feet with 16 oz gloves. His oponents include former Olympians world class contenders and solid journeymen.... overall his opponents feature a better win loss record than almost all of the fighters on Haymon's roster and most other active contenders fighting professionally today. I have seen the kid come out too eager once or twice and get smashed hard in the mouth, only to make the adjustments between rounds and crank up the pressure like nothing happened on the way to another brutal stoppage. I would pick Spence over Khan, Porter, Thurman, and today's version of Pac in a heartbeat. The kids consistant workrate, defense, poise, and aggressiveness will enable him to pull away from Algieri by the 5th round, the fight will grow increasingly onesided from there.


-SuperLight :

I think Chris did a pretty good job against all; Pac, Khan, and Provodnikov. None of them - for Chris - were "gimme" fights by any means. There's no doubt Chris is a tough, durable, and resilient fighter; he's proven that. But as you go up the food chain the difference in the skill, *durability, and stamina requirements can start to show; and Chris probably only has one of those *elements completely down pat and in better shape than Spence. But Spence seems pretty durable/tough too; so it's not like it's a great deficit - at least not while Spence is fresh. You could possibly debate the stamina between the two. But Errol looks in good shape too, plus he doesn't seem to fight in a manner where he's too overly concerned about his batteries in the latter rounds; and you don't (successfully) fight in a high output manner like that unless your tank is always full and easily replenished. Chris doesn't have too many special effects and that saves gas; whereas Spence seems to carry his along with him and still retain them into the later rounds. Skill has to go to Spence; not Algieri. I think Spence - if he retains his speed/skills in the latter rounds, and it gets to them - will beat on Algieri. It's pretty hard to train for and handle a guy that is really fast, elusive, skilled, and likes to comes forward; even in the later rounds. OK, to your remarks about Pac and Chris. Pacquaio did well against him; I'm not sure the flack he received from Roger/Floyd Mayweather - as funny as it was - for not being able to stop Algieri was all that accurate. Probably - if anything negative - more an indication of the way Pac fights, can be at times stuck in 1 style/approach, and just went for too many head shots. That said; it's pretty hard to beat on a guy and get him out of there, if he's still got the energy to run all the time; as Chris did with Pac. That said I did expect Pac to stop Chris; but perhaps Chris is just really tough. Must be because he got up after every time Manny dropped him. But back to Spence. He's a guy that has;

a) Not only a good amateur pedigree and seems intent on retaining all the nice technical nuances he's picked up. b) But has also come through the ranks in a manner you can respect. As (even though he's always looked good doing it) he hasn't always fought easy fights; especially when you compare his transition to other fighters - like say Diego DeLay Hoya.

So I expect him to fight smart, see what Chris has got, and then start to drop in some clever/fast moves to see how well Chris adjusts. Then when it's clear what Chris is uncomfortable with; the technical (therein lies the difference between how Pac charged in) pressure will be turned up and mistakes/weakness will be exploited. Take it easy. :) :)
Fair enough appraisal. Yes, I'd say Algieri was tough from what I saw. Definitely has guts or minerals if you prefer. Against Khan I saw him much more proactive than against Pacquiao. By that I don't just mean initiating attacks, but also proactive head and body movement. Not quite Pazienza levels of anxious spasms, but dynamic rather than just back pedalling. He also showed a basic clinching plan.


-SuperLight :

You have to understand that da game has certain levels. And those at the bottom, the posers, the fakers and sh?theads don't know syet about boksing, especially the about various types of diets. And these trolls make up syet on da fly and believe that ev'ybodee and dey momma are on roids and PEDs because of crazy speed and pop. But none of these diets are hard to find. Not only that. But from the beginning of time, elite soldiers and athletes were known for dieting on wood arshes deliberately, culturally and scientifically put them in their foods cut with salt. And not only that, but common people cooked with wood arshes and were known to throw the arshes out in their gardens. One of the reasons that Asians still live longer than other people is that we -- most of us -- still put wood arshes and salt in our foods on da reg. Plus we throw the extra burn wood arshes on the fields were we plant our fruits, veggies and rice. Being in Hong Kong, you should know that tradition, SuperLight. The royalty was known to live for a 130 years for their diet of wood arshes mixed in black rice. And the stealth martial art warriors were especially known for their super strength, speed, balance and endurance from that diet. Holla!
Radam, I can honestly say I've never heard of ashes in food. My wife's take is it's either ash tea that's supposed to be an almost abandoned voodoo-like tradition..... or the brother in the kitchen getting careless with his cigarette over the pot. Now I'm not saying it's untrue, or making claims either way about the supposed benefits, but I'll surely consult someone "more local" and see what I can glean. Edit: I found something about the gladiators. [URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2801412/roman-gladiators-ate-vegetarian-diet-washed-sports-drink-plant-ashes-vinegar.html">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2801412/roman-gladiators-ate-vegetarian-diet-washed-sports-drink-plant-ashes-vinegar.html[/URL] Also, apparently the Hopi (native in Nth America) added plant ash to food containing corn, which enriched it with minerals.


-Radam G :

Radam, I can honestly say I've never heard of ashes in food. My wife's take is it's either ash tea that's supposed to be an almost abandoned voodoo-like tradition..... or the brother in the kitchen getting careless with his cigarette over the pot. Now I'm not saying it's untrue, or making claims either way about the supposed benefits, but I'll surely consult someone "more local" and see what I can glean. Edit: I found something about the gladiators. [URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2801412/roman-gladiators-ate-vegetarian-diet-washed-sports-drink-plant-ashes-vinegar.html">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2801412/roman-gladiators-ate-vegetarian-diet-washed-sports-drink-plant-ashes-vinegar.html[/URL] Also, apparently the Hopi (native in Nth America) added plant ash to food containing corn, which enriched it with minerals.
Honesty is always great. One will not learn syet by being a fake. I will not tell you syet that is untrue. That is not the type of person that I am -- a knuckleheaded syet-brained troll wandering around cyberspace causing discontent. I'm da real deal. "More real than real deal Holyfield." Besides, what will I have to gain by putting out fantasy posts and nonsense bullsyet. Because all will be found, or is already known by the super minds already up in this Uiverse. And Yes! Wood arshes are because of mad amounts of trace minerals. Sometimes that modern folks don't have any more because of the industry society and the use of electricity. People are ill and dropping quicker than fleas for too much love of modern ways, and not knowing syet about the old ways and diets. Anything that I post, I can back it up with hard science and history. I ain't one of these bytch-arse trolls up in here that are also racists and xenophobs. Welcome to da real real of true haps and mad knowledge. BTW! Your wife's take was funny as heck! And truth about dude smokers. But arsh tea was not voodoo syet. It was/is for healing and strength syet by drinking the umpteen mineral that it had. The late, great boxer Archie Moore's aunties used to drink that type of tea on da reg. They lived to be a 107 and 109 years old. Holla!


-Radam G :

Holla @ this, SuperLight:
->http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bmdyJq-fjDQ. Holla!


-miguel1 :

I have a question. If I just eat burnt wood, do I get stronger, steroid-like effects? :)


-Radam G :

I have a question. If I just eat burnt wood, do I get stronger, steroid-like effects? :)
It is a long line of other co factors involved about your nutrition, present diet, type of water drinking and how much damage that you have done to your body by eating processed foods, drinking carbonated bervages and being on pharmaceutical drugs. Besides "burnt wood" ain't wood ashes. There is a distinction. Holla!


-Radam G :

Also. Roids are for syet heads. They don't work like the real right thing of proper nutrition. This is why when a right dieting, uber athlete breaks on the scene, the pundits and haters accused him or her of being on undetectable roids and PEDs. Holla!


-Radam G :

Bottom line, with all that's written, you will increase your life cycle. And get a better (healthier) effect than "steroid-like effects" sh?t. I sh?t you not. Holla!


-Radam G :

Now that you tweaked my neurons, lmao. In San Diego, Ca., USA, there is this uber-healthy 90-year-old lady, who ev'ybodee and dey momma call Mother Smith. She looks like a hardbody 55-year-old baby boomer. She is on her four generation of descendants who are kick-@$$ super athletes -- males and females. In her Korean War-era house she has a "fire place" where only wood is burnt. A lot of the wood ashes are being breathed in while the wood is burning. And when the wood is finished burning, the ashes are collected and dumbed in the Smith Fam's giant backyard garden. Every single relative -- five year old to 69 -- in Mother Smith's house is super healthy and/or athletic. And they all looked like sculptured gods and goddesses. And all the know-nothing haters accused them of being a Fam on roids. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

Burnt ash is all over the menus in soho and the west village NYC. Sampled some. In soup. They say fire is the best favor. The health benefits make sense. Nature holds all the answers.


-stormcentre :

Now that you tweaked my neurons, lmao. In San Diego, Ca., USA, there is this uber-healthy 90-year-old lady, who ev'ybodee and dey momma call Mother Smith. She looks like a hardbody 55-year-old baby boomer. She is on her four generation of descendants who are kick-@$$ super athletes -- males and females. In her Korean War-era house she has a "fire place" where only wood is burnt. A lot of the wood ashes are being breathed in while the wood is burning. And when the wood is finished burning, the ashes are collected and dumbed in the Smith Fam's giant backyard garden. Every single relative -- five year old to 69 -- in Mother Smith's house is super healthy and/or athletic. And they all looked like sculptured gods and goddesses. And all the know-nothing haters accused them of being a Fam on roids. Holla!
Well that's that then. That surely must be the definitive post on this scientifically explained matter. It's categorically clear now; there can be not other explanation for that 90 year old ladies' age and health and her kick-azz super athlete offspring. I only have 2 questions.

1) Is there (any) scientific evidence (at all) to support the theory related to how wood ash increases athletic ability in a sporting performance, such, as say Spence V Algieri (and please note how - in the name of being a fair/reasonable troll - I have lowered the threshold of acceptability from the usual standard of "proof" - to just verifiable "evidence")? 2) How much more/less;

a) Hand speed, than that which is associated with the; "Fast handed watermelon seed" elixir. b) Than the 30,000 times per second blood circulation rate that's associated with the; "Black cherry juice recipe" that provides a blast of speed of extremities.

Does wood ash deliver?

Finally - and this is a fact. One of my lovely neighbors is 94, from Poland, and as tough as nails. She only found out her true DOB and age 15 years ago due to immigration matters related to the war, and Hitler needlessly invading Poland. She is as healthy as most 60 year olds, surprises her Doctors, and she is in the garden every second day; weather permitting. She has lived in the same house for at least 40 years, enjoys a can of lemonade a day, and . . . . Her house has no wooden fire in it all. How can this incredible phenomena coexist with all that has been previously said, and shouldn't she bee observably ill from a lack of wood ash and house fires in her diet? :) :)


-stormcentre :

You're right about Spence's stamina, Storm.........the kid is a non stop dynamo who throws spirited, rib buckling combo's in every round. You have to look at some of the established and up and coming eastern block fighters to find another fighter who has the same type of fortitude and work ethic. My only concern is the kid is low on body fat, I'm not saying that Spence will be compromised for the Algieri fight, I'm just saying Spence needs to go after the title soon becsuse he won't be a welterweight for long. He blacked Mayweather's eye preparing him for Canelo, and he had Broner out on his feet with 16 oz gloves. His oponents include former Olympians world class contenders and solid journeymen.... overall his opponents feature a better win loss record than almost all of the fighters on Haymon's roster and most other active contenders fighting professionally today. I have seen the kid come out too eager once or twice and get smashed hard in the mouth, only to make the adjustments between rounds and crank up the pressure like nothing happened on the way to another brutal stoppage. I would pick Spence over Khan, Porter, Thurman, and today's version of Pac in a heartbeat. The kids consistant workrate, defense, poise, and aggressiveness will enable him to pull away from Algieri by the 5th round, the fight will grow increasingly onesided from there.
Yes, he's pretty special. Algieri is a good move/fight for him; as it's a pretty decent statement whether he shuts him out or closes him down. I agree (interpreting your "body fat" concern/comment) that it will be interesting to see how Spence handles the pressure that Chris may bring. :) :)


-brownsugar :

I have a question. If I just eat burnt wood, do I get stronger, steroid-like effects? :)
You didnt ask me Miguel, but here's my rambling opinion. I can't tell you squat about eating ashes, .......but centenarians..... (people living to be over one hundred years old) is the fastest growing segment of the United States population. Now Living longer, growing stronger, and losing weight is becoming less and less a mystery and doesn't require a plethora of bizaare or exotic techniques and resources. Not that there has to be something wrong with bizarre or exotic,.... i just like to keep it simple. Every day in social media I get reports of another person reaching 120 (the highest age was this 131 year old lady from the south) or folks getting close to 110. ...and statistically speaking, Americans aren't even the healthiest people in the world. I'm not going to give it away... just google it. When they ask these aging Americans what they eat, one of the most common answers I've read was chocolate (cacao), raw honey, taking a moderate shot of liquor once a day and only eating enough food at a time to become approximately 75% full. With breakfast being the largest meal of the day.... and tapering down from there. Alot of the key to living a long-lean healthy life depends on when you eat, how often you eat, and ditching all the processed foods. Common items like gingerroot, lemons, green tea, beet juice, coconut oil (raw), raw honey, baking soda, crushed red pepper, avocado, and cinamon ........comsumed daily ( which I try to do in different ways as much as i can) are supremely beneficial in lowering bad cholesterol, blood pressure, and preventing diabetes and cancer. Google it. Being an avid cook I'm always looking for new and exciting dishes to make,.... its easy to get bored with new creations. Ive noticed recently that using ashes as seasoning has become the new HOT TREND to bring that fire roasted flavor to spice up common dishes like fried zuchini and roasted tomatoes, and steak...... etc. Now please be advised , burnt food carries carcinogens and is unhealthy, but people do like a scorched steak and that fire roasted flavor once in a while. To satiate that craving Cooks will now take vegetable peelings and reduce them to complete ash over a charcoal grille to capture the flavor. Not for nutritional reasons but for taste and its supposedly harmless. I would recommend that you google the nutitional benefit of ashes for yourselves. There are infinite paths to good health, one of my daughters (and literally, more than just a few women have told me) about the benefits of eating dirt. This eating of the dirt is much more common than you can possibly imagine, especially amonst pregnant women. as I stated earlier there are many paths to wellbeing. But when Errol Spence and Chris Algieri meet in a couple of months, they will battle like titans and display all the courage determination, and resilience that you would expect from two young dedicated prospects, giving their all. I wouldnt be surprised if the loser of that fight looked like pile of burnt ashes after the grueling affair is concluded ...I highly doubt that person will be Errol Spence.


-brownsugar :

By the way Iceland is the most healthy country in the world, clean air, folks work out to beat the cold and low infant mortality.


-SuperLight :

I know this ashy conversation has strayed from the bout at hand, but I'm quite fascinated. I'll admit I'd never heard of "culinary ash", despite having majored in history and now working in food-related business. I know smoked food is quite common, and a classic recipe from my mother land depends on coal or wood smoke for its unique flavour. As to burnt food being a carcinogen, I can add that it is the very browning that gives many foods their flavour through Maillard reactions - toast, steak, coffee, etc. - and the lack thereof that puts me off steamed/boiled meat common in the cuisine where I live. And although we don't eat ash in my household, we do, in a fashion, practise the garden feeding method of yore. Our compost has coffee grinds and roasted silverskins added to it, which all gets turned into topsoil for the whole village to use. I'd usually take natural over synthetic, all things being equal, but my shoulder would be most grateful if one of you can show me a substitute for ibuprofen.


-SuperLight :

Well that's that then. That surely must be the definitive post on this scientifically explained matter. It's categorically clear now; there can be not other explanation for that 90 year old ladies' age and health and her kick-azz super athlete offspring. I only have 2 questions.

1) Is there (any) scientific evidence (at all) to support the theory related to how wood ash increases athletic ability in a sporting performance, such, as say Spence V Algieri (and please note how - in the name of being a fair/reasonable troll - I have lowered the threshold of acceptability from the usual standard of "proof" - to just verifiable "evidence")? 2) How much more/less;

a) Hand speed, than that which is associated with the; "Fast handed watermelon seed" elixir. b) Than the 30,000 times per second blood circulation rate that's associated with the; "Black cherry juice recipe" that provides a blast of speed of extremities.

Does wood ash deliver?

Finally - and this is a fact. One of my lovely neighbors is 94, from Poland, and as tough as nails. She only found out her true DOB and age 15 years ago due to immigration matters related to the war, and Hitler needlessly invading Poland. She is as healthy as most 60 year olds, surprises her Doctors, and she is in the garden every second day; weather permitting. She has lived in the same house for at least 40 years, enjoys a can of lemonade a day, and . . . . Her house has no wooden fire in it all. How can this incredible phenomena coexist with all that has been previously said, and shouldn't she bee observably ill from a lack of wood ash and house fires in her diet? :) :)
Perhaps your lovely neighbour derives the magic minerals from another source. What is in the lemonade? Or perhaps it's to do with the other side of the mind-body matrix. Does "anima sana in corpore sano" go both ways? I'd never have guessed my home city at or near the top average life expectancy worldwide. It's crowded, and the air is cleaner than Beijing's to put it nicely. I wonder what's the magic factor here.


-Radam G :

I know this ashy conversation has strayed from the bout at hand, but I'm quite fascinated. I'll admit I'd never heard of "culinary ash", despite having majored in history and now working in food-related business. I know smoked food is quite common, and a classic recipe from my mother land depends on coal or wood smoke for its unique flavour. As to burnt food being a carcinogen, I can add that it is the very browning that gives many foods their flavour through Maillard reactions - toast, steak, coffee, etc. - and the lack thereof that puts me off steamed/boiled meat common in the cuisine where I live. And although we don't eat ash in my household, we do, in a fashion, practise the garden feeding method of yore. Our compost has coffee grinds and roasted silverskins added to it, which all gets turned into topsoil for the whole village to use. I'd usually take natural over synthetic, all things being equal, but my shoulder would be most grateful if one of you can show me a substitute for ibuprofen.
OMFG! Ibuprofen has already sneaked up on you and is destroying your insides. And then before you know it, that weak -- faking strength -- bytch will be bringing the grim reaper to collect your cadaver. I'm just the messenger, though a bit morbid to make my point. LOOK! My readermate, Imma privately message you and give you the path to getting rid of that bum shoulder. As I have said. I'm real with it. Not one of the bytch-arse aged trolls messing up the flow in this Universe. I can come with a solution for healing and repairing the body. These great, aged posers, Pac-haters and _____ _____s cannot. But they can pose and troll. Hehe! Nonetheless, if what I turn you on to, and you try it, and it doesn't correct your bum shoulder in three or four months or quicker, you are welcome to sing like a lark that I'm full of syet. And I'm the BIGGEST poser up in diz Universe. Holla!


-brownsugar :

The CIA list has Monaco at #1, Macau #2, and San Marino #3 for life expectancies, Hong Kong is #8, Australia #9, Iceland #18, the good O'l Red White and Blue placed at a one-foot-in-grave #50. Even France placed at a respectable #9, Canada #12, Bermuda #20. Ireland didnt make the list(too much crime) Its interesting that most of these countries dont eat GMO foods, farm raised tilapia from the east or allow anywhere near the amount of high fructose sugar or the high amount of cheap processed grain and hydrogenated grease that we use in the US. High quality of spending, low quality of life. For the record the major Foods and CHEMICAL companies (because our food is more chemical that food) is strongly lobbying the FDA to remove the requirement of having to put ingredient lists on food packages. While the medical and health industry continues to kill cancer patients with opiates and chemo.


-Radam G :

I know this ashy conversation has strayed from the bout at hand, but I'm quite fascinated. I'll admit I'd never heard of "culinary ash", despite having majored in history and now working in food-related business. I know smoked food is quite common, and a classic recipe from my mother land depends on coal or wood smoke for its unique flavour. As to burnt food being a carcinogen, I can add that it is the very browning that gives many foods their flavour through Maillard reactions - toast, steak, coffee, etc. - and the lack thereof that puts me off steamed/boiled meat common in the cuisine where I live. And although we don't eat ash in my household, we do, in a fashion, practise the garden feeding method of yore. Our compost has coffee grinds and roasted silverskins added to it, which all gets turned into topsoil for the whole village to use. I'd usually take natural over synthetic, all things being equal, but my shoulder would be most grateful if one of you can show me a substitute for ibuprofen.
In the meantime holla at this:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3qQxoai90s. Holla!


-stormcentre :

The CIA list has Monaco at #1, Macau #2, and San Marino #3 for life expectancies, Hong Kong is #8, Australia #9, Iceland #18, the good O'l Red White and Blue placed at a one-foot-in-grave #50. Even France placed at a respectable #9, Canada #12, Bermuda #20. Ireland didnt make the list(too much crime) Its interesting that most of these countries dont eat GMO foods, farm raised tilapia from the east or allow anywhere near the amount of high fructose sugar or the high amount of cheap processed grain and hydrogenated grease that we use in the US. High quality of spending, low quality of life. For the record the major Foods and CHEMICAL companies (because our food is more chemical that food) is strongly lobbying the FDA to remove the requirement of having to put ingredient lists on food packages. While the medical and health industry continues to kill cancer patients with opiates and chemo.
Aint that the fricken truth? Thats why me just stick to cooking up me *meth diet in da (3 course bricked up) caravan; with chooks roosting underneath and all dat. Least me knows wats minerals is in *it. Plus, hasn't done me no harm. :) :)


-brownsugar :

I know this ashy conversation has strayed from the bout at hand, but I'm quite fascinated. I'll admit I'd never heard of "culinary ash", despite having majored in history and now working in food-related business. I know smoked food is quite common, and a classic recipe from my mother land depends on coal or wood smoke for its unique flavour. As to burnt food being a carcinogen, I can add that it is the very browning that gives many foods their flavour through Maillard reactions - toast, steak, coffee, etc. - and the lack thereof that puts me off steamed/boiled meat common in the cuisine where I live. And although we don't eat ash in my household, we do, in a fashion, practise the garden feeding method of yore. Our compost has coffee grinds and roasted silverskins added to it, which all gets turned into topsoil for the whole village to use. I'd usually take natural over synthetic, all things being equal, but my shoulder would be most grateful if one of you can show me a substitute for ibuprofen.
SL, Regarding a pain killer, off the top of my head cloves are good for topical relief (tooth ache)and red pepper is good for internal joint pain. Be careful however, if you have any digestional, intestinal or stomach problems you'll want to avoid any red pepper obviously. I use it in everything, for different purposes and to start my day in my morning tea. I go through about an ounce or more a week. Check out the website "Fit for Life" for some helpful information... you can even set yourself up for auto alerts on facebook that you can cross reference on google or verify with a health professional.


-brownsugar :

Aint that the fricken truth? Thats why me just stick to cooking up me *meth diet in da (3 course bricked up) caravan; with chooks roosting underneath and all dat. Least me knows wats minerals is in *it. Plus, hasn't done me no harm. :) :)
Lol... meth diet


-SuperLight :

Thanks, b-sug. I'll take a little bit of gut irritation if I can keep my jab =) I do love the whole capsicum family. Thanks in advance to Radam - I'll be sure to let these brothers and sisters know either way.


-Radam G :

Thanks, b-sug. I'll take a little bit of gut irritation if I can keep my jab =) I do love the whole capsicum family. Thanks in advance to Radam - I'll be sure to let these brothers and sisters know either way.
You have a lot to gain. And an end to pain. Mentally and physically, it can all be slain.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Mh30-SXDg. Holla!


-amayseng :

Thanks, b-sug. I'll take a little bit of gut irritation if I can keep my jab =) I do love the whole capsicum family. Thanks in advance to Radam - I'll be sure to let these brothers and sisters know either way.
willow bark condroitin and glucosamine are helpful, depending on your injury and diagnosis.


-amayseng :

The CIA list has Monaco at #1, Macau #2, and San Marino #3 for life expectancies, Hong Kong is #8, Australia #9, Iceland #18, the good O'l Red White and Blue placed at a one-foot-in-grave #50. Even France placed at a respectable #9, Canada #12, Bermuda #20. Ireland didnt make the list(too much crime) Its interesting that most of these countries dont eat GMO foods, farm raised tilapia from the east or allow anywhere near the amount of high fructose sugar or the high amount of cheap processed grain and hydrogenated grease that we use in the US. High quality of spending, low quality of life. For the record the major Foods and CHEMICAL companies (because our food is more chemical that food) is strongly lobbying the FDA to remove the requirement of having to put ingredient lists on food packages. While the medical and health industry continues to kill cancer patients with opiates and chemo.
good points, the USA is a disgrace


-Radam G :

First World commoners are dropping like flies. But keep believing medical lies.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kfXScGUIk3Y. Meanwhile: a ton of pugs are now turned on to the effective sport's rehydration and replenishment drink REBOUND. I'm just sayin!' Holla!


-deepwater2 :

Russia banned all GMo crops. They want to be the worlds largest exporter of GMo free food. In fact they want to give its citizens an acre of their own land so they can grow their own food. GMo , Fake sugar and preservatives do more damage than most people know.


-deepwater2 :

The guillotine should be pulled out for the politicians that poison the people. GMo =cancer=money . Cancer us a money maker and nothing more. Pure evil.


-Radam G :

One has to watch trick lists of the uber-murderous CIA. It doesn't count syet without a bias agenda. For instance, it only count those persons born with a Birth Certificate. And it is a known fact that most of the world population before 1930 didn't have birth certificates that are accepted by the CIA, U.S. State Department, National Geographic and Guinness book of records. Many people -- even born in the USA -- still are not having birth certificate at birth. BTW, average of the longevity of a country is misleading, because the Third, Fourth an Fifth World Countries have more infant deaths, but more 90 to 115 year olds. Many of the Middle East and African countries are at war. So when the longevity life counters put down all of those soldiers who died at 15 to 20 years old in the mix of people living 80 to 120 years old, you are to get a life expectancy of 49 to 59 years old like Chad or Mali. In black U.S. America, the life expectancy is 65.5 for dudes and 68 for dudettes. But why? Killings by crimes, cops, bad foods, negligent doktors, tainted water and on each other. Average life expectancy is misleading. Medium life expectancy is the best way to go. And blue zones of Costa Rica and Okinawa lead the pack. In most types of deaths, the USA now clearly lead the world. It even has the most births, but is aborting fetuses liking like waste from anals. GTFOH! Even the U.S. Poltricksters, including Don Trump recently spoke about that. Again, don't be bamboozled by bias pro-Western statistics. Put up a list of the countries with the most 75-to-130 year olds per capital. And the U.S. mainland is near the bottom. Don't try to imperialistically bulljive. No hate! I'm just calling a spade a spade. This front doesn't sync.
->http://www.infoplease.com/world/statistics/life-expectancy-country.html. Holla!


-Radam G :

Thanks, b-sug. I'll take a little bit of gut irritation if I can keep my jab =) I do love the whole capsicum family. Thanks in advance to Radam - I'll be sure to let these brothers and sisters know either way.
You are the master of your body. But you need to give it body-building protections, and it will follow your directions. Remember your body has 50 trillion cells. You ain't been treating them well. And they are getting your attention by smacking noisy, painful bells. Before long, they are going to start shooting. And all around you will be bomb shells. You are in crying-out-for-relief pain, I can tell. And since you don't need to, it makes no sense going through that type of hell.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BfRSiAu1bI4. Holla!


-SuperLight :

You are the master of your body. But you need to give it body-building protections, and it will follow your directions. Remember your body has 50 trillion cells. You ain't been treating them well. And they are getting your attention by smacking noisy, painful bells. Before long, they are going to start shooting. And all around you will be bomb shells. You are in crying-out-for-relief pain, I can tell. And since you don't need to, it makes no sense going through that type of hell.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BfRSiAu1bI4. Holla!
The acute problem could have been from lifting something too heavy or improperly at work, or else over-extending on punches. Chronically I have a dull ache in various parts around the deltoid that has lasted over a year and a half, and is now shooting back as you would put it. Last time I recovered, or thought I did, it was more due to my coach's help than the physio's. Once the pain went I found I could stretch and strengthen my shoulders and upper back following some exercises I found in a boxing magazine from Aus. How much effect can diet have? I'm willing to be a junior welter-sized guinea pig in an experiment with sample size of one. As of this morning I nixed the Nurofen, and I'm certainly feeling it. As for my present diet I've never been into soft drinks (soda) since I was a kid, cut out fruit juice and much sugar a couple of years ago. Now I'm high-fibre, less meat and more fruit and veg than I used to eat, and drinking much more water than I used to. Alcohol I have next to none except for wine in cooking, and that not every night. My vice, if you will, is coffee, which I cut with a small amount of milk. That is, add up a few coffees and a bowl of muesli and there's about a metric cup of the full cream stuff. I don't shy away from fat in butter and cheese. If and when I snack it's usually salted roasted cashews. I'll have a small amount of dark chocolate before a run or as a treat. Admittedly haven't been getting as much seafood or eggs as I could. In general you could say my health was in the upper echelons for my age - my resting heart rate and my blood pressure were textbook perfect last I was checked. One thing I can tell you is I'm not getting enough uninterrupted sleep, which comes with having 2 young children in the house =) Staying out of the gym is one thing. Not being able to carry my kids is a little hell as Radam alluded. Besides you guys warning against ibuprofen, one of my cousins today posted this link from July 2015: [URL="https://www.yahoo.com/health/fda-strengthens-stroke-and-heart-attack-warnings-123667790507.html">https://www.yahoo.com/health/fda-strengthens-stroke-and-heart-attack-warnings-123667790507.html[/URL] I thought of starting another thread for all this, but I guess it should keep Spence and Algieri's bout fresh in our minds =)


-brownsugar :

good points, the USA is a disgrace
Thanks Amayseng, it's a wonder we can even compete in the Olympics with longevity and health stats so low. Lol... I wish I would have known ten years ago what I know now about cancer, I have no doubt more of my family and friends would still be living today. The list of patients overcoming stage 4 cancer using common and cheap items like lemon, baking soda and kale is staggering. It's truly a paradox. You buy fruits and vegetables, hoping to reap the benefits of a healthy diet but it's loaded with toxins like heavy metals, When we buy farm raised tilapia and salmon ... We learn that most of it,...whether it's grown here in the U.S., or in South America or China, most of it is raised on chicken feces, human sewage, or synthetic factory produced pellets laced with arsenic. Google Walmart's ( or any large grocery chain ) source for their fish supply or simply read the package which can also be a little misleading if you're not accustomed to the coded format used.... I promise you will never buy it again. Google it !!!! Most of it lacks the omega 3 fatty acids needed in sufficient quantities to be beneficial and has an imbalance of omega 6. And something as simple as flax seeds,... a food that should be healthy, and you learn that the plastic it's packed in releases toxins that raise the estrogen level in men which is the source of the dreaded man boobs, ....... erectile disfunction and loss of libido. (Which is true for most foods) these bags are labeled by law to indicate the containers toxicity level but few people even know the code. Which is why I subscribe to several nutritional websites like "Fit for Life" for up to date information. Even a supposedly wholesome item like olive oil is usually substituted with Canelo oil, even the ones with the fancy Italian labeling are fake ... Only 25% of all olive oil sold in stores is real, And a supposedly reputable institution such as Whole Foods was found guilty of selling fake olive oil product... Oil that was adulterated with inflamation inducing substances, I'm surprised there isn't a class action suit in progress somewhere. Even If a person makes a conscious decision to eat healthy food, consumers still have to be able to navigate past the quagmire of miss information and unhealthy products. But still, after having traveled to 42 different countries during my military days I wouldn't live anywhere else in the world with possible exception of Seychelles La Reunion, Puerto Rico, Hawiii, Canada, Australia, or Ghana (which I hope to visit),... That's just my unappologetic personal preference list... But this flawed place called America is home for life. (Queue the national anthem) I think Deep said something about growing our own food. Which is a fantastic idea, and something that's becoming increasingly more of a necessity in order to maintain a proper diet. I mean...... our food supply has become industrialised, who wants to eat food from a chemical, plastic, and cardbox factory? ....lol Go Spence Go!!!!


-Radam G :

The acute problem could have been from lifting something too heavy or improperly at work, or else over-extending on punches. Chronically I have a dull ache in various parts around the deltoid that has lasted over a year and a half, and is now shooting back as you would put it. Last time I recovered, or thought I did, it was more due to my coach's help than the physio's. Once the pain went I found I could stretch and strengthen my shoulders and upper back following some exercises I found in a boxing magazine from Aus. How much effect can diet have? I'm willing to be a junior welter-sized guinea pig in an experiment with sample size of one. As of this morning I nixed the Nurofen, and I'm certainly feeling it. As for my present diet I've never been into soft drinks (soda) since I was a kid, cut out fruit juice and much sugar a couple of years ago. Now I'm high-fibre, less meat and more fruit and veg than I used to eat, and drinking much more water than I used to. Alcohol I have next to none except for wine in cooking, and that not every night. My vice, if you will, is coffee, which I cut with a small amount of milk. That is, add up a few coffees and a bowl of muesli and there's about a metric cup of the full cream stuff. I don't shy away from fat in butter and cheese. If and when I snack it's usually salted roasted cashews. I'll have a small amount of dark chocolate before a run or as a treat. Admittedly haven't been getting as much seafood or eggs as I could. In general you could say my health was in the upper echelons for my age - my resting heart rate and my blood pressure were textbook perfect last I was checked. One thing I can tell you is I'm not getting enough uninterrupted sleep, which comes with having 2 young children in the house =) Staying out of the gym is one thing. Not being able to carry my kids is a little hell as Radam alluded. Besides you guys warning against ibuprofen, one of my cousins today posted this link from July 2015: [URL="https://www.yahoo.com/health/fda-strengthens-stroke-and-heart-attack-warnings-123667790507.html">https://www.yahoo.com/health/fda-strengthens-stroke-and-heart-attack-warnings-123667790507.html[/URL] I thought of starting another thread for all this, but I guess it should keep Spence and Algieri's bout fresh in our minds =)
No matter what injuries are nagging you, they can be repaired -- chased da double fudge off. Don't believe dumb jive of medical doktors wanting to replace your body parts. Despite the propaganda against Mother Nature, she is still the baddest bytch for healthy, quick, guaranteed healing and repair without costing you your house. Besides, "the father of modern medical" -- Hypocrates -- clearly said to "let (correct) foods be your medicine." So why in the heck have the pharmaceutical syet drugs giants have taken over? Because they and their trained-on-pharmaceutical drugs doktors are greedy bytches using naive, vulnerable people for a-t-m machines and Guinea pigs to control the population. From the beginning of time, those that fixed and repaired their bodies with minerals, vitamins, amino acids and essential fatty acids lived long, long pain-free lives. Now 90 percent of the people in industry societies are in pain like bytches, and/or dying like flies between 30 and 70 years old from cancer, heart failure, liver damage, diabetes and suicide from listening to those doktors using them for pharmaceutical and personal profit. No hate! I'm just keeping it on da real real. Like "Real Deal" Holyfield. He had a heart attack when he was listening to bullsyet and was on all type of pharmaceutical syets plus. But when we convinced him to get with the right natural stuff, he made a full recovery and return to boxing to repeat as heavyweight champion of the world. Holla!


-Radam G :

This is Doc Wallach's testimony of getting "Real Deal" Holyfield straight, and back into da game. Holla at the right thing, and you will end the pain. And mad knowledge, you will gain. Never listen to dumb syet dat diz, dat and da third cannot be medically healed. If you correct it in time with the soup of Mother Nature, for a ton of years, you will be able to kick behinds.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MrwkApO6s. Holla!


-Radam G :

One more true video of an injured athlete who medical doktors gave us on. But the mineral and vitamin doktor, Doc Wallach, fixed him straight up:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dZbaAV2EKi0. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Even aside from the lack of direct evidence that Wallach does exactly as he says he has and can . . . . And since (to my massive surprise) there seems no real tangible answers to the reasonable questions here . . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25116-Errol-Spence-Jr-vs-Chris-Algieri-Brooklyn-Bound-on-April-16&p=94067&viewfull=1#post94067 . . . that relate to not only the *original discussion - but also pertain directly to Spence, Algieri, and sporting *performances . . . I have a little voodoo presentation of my own . . .

Once it gets going; very cool tune that.

Apologies in advance for the naughtiness, honesty, and humour. In the event that anyone's religious beliefs are represented or hurt; no serious offence is intended. :) :)


-SuperLight :

Even aside from the lack of direct evidence that Wallach does exactly as he says he has and can . . . . And since (to my massive surprise) there seems no real tangible answers to the reasonable questions here . . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25116-Errol-Spence-Jr-vs-Chris-Algieri-Brooklyn-Bound-on-April-16&p=94067&viewfull=1#post94067 . . . that relate to not only the *original discussion - but also pertain directly to Spence, Algieri, and sporting *performances . . . I have a little voodoo presentation of my own . . .
Once it gets going; very cool tune that.

Apologies in advance for the naughtiness, honesty, and humour. In the event that anyone's religious beliefs are represented or hurt; no serious offence is intended. :) :)
I'd like to think we're all big boys here. I.e. we can take a bit of a jab ;) As to the original diet/elixir discussion, it's usually very easy to confuse correlation and causation. I could provide anecdotal evidence of people leading very long and/or happy lives and could probably find more differences than similarities in their diets, hobbies, social circles, built environments, etc. But if we look at it from the other angle, just because the honest, hard working folk of wherever did not analyse their ashes on a microscopic level, who is to say that there was no benefit in that diet of yore? People have chewed, or dried and smoked, the leaves of a few plants, have fermented or distilled fruits and grains, have scrambled and heated the ova of our avian friends and, as I well know, infused tea and other leaves, and roasted and ground the seeds of coffee cherries. My point, my man, is that not all things are understood on a scientific basis at their inception. Sometimes their benefits are discovered slowly or accidentally, sometimes they are purely used for pleasure, and of course sometimes their benefit might be so psychological they could be packaged as the generic drug Placebotol. I know you mentioned your study/studies (with the AIS?) concerning punching power and/or knockout efficiency. Would you in those days have been involved in, or stumbled upon, dietary studies? E.g., steak and Guinness versus high starch vs. high protein vs. all raw for fighters or other athletes. I imagine if you weren't directly involved then you'd know a guy who was =)


-Radam G :

I'd like to think we're all big boys here. I.e. we can take a bit of a jab ;) As to the original diet/elixir discussion, it's usually very easy to confuse correlation and causation. I could provide anecdotal evidence of people leading very long and/or happy lives and could probably find more differences than similarities in their diets, hobbies, social circles, built environments, etc. But if we look at it from the other angle, just because the honest, hard working folk of wherever did not analyse their ashes on a microscopic level, who is to say that there was no benefit in that diet of yore? People have chewed, or dried and smoked, the leaves of a few plants, have fermented or distilled fruits and grains, have scrambled and heated the ova of our avian friends and, as I well know, infused tea and other leaves, and roasted and ground the seeds of coffee cherries. My point, my man, is that not all things are understood on a scientific basis at their inception. Sometimes their benefits are discovered slowly or accidentally, sometimes they are purely used for pleasure, and of course sometimes their benefit might be so psychological they could be packaged as the generic drug Placebotol. I know you mentioned your study/studies (with the AIS?) concerning punching power and/or knockout efficiency. Would you in those days have been involved in, or stumbled upon, dietary studies? E.g., steak and Guinness versus high starch vs. high protein vs. all raw for fighters or other athletes. I imagine if you weren't directly involved then you'd know a guy who was =)
You're intelligent enough to do your own research. Also a lot of things are discovered by taking a leap of faith. Trolls are what they are. And they do what they do. But always end up losing. And losing badly. And then they will disappear for a while, then reappear with the same DOS. The truth only hides in plain sight. And is alway in front of one's mug ready to be discovered. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Oh . .. thank you RG. That's exactly the type of personalized response I expected you to give. Please give me a few minutes to formulate a decent and appropriate response to what you're saying about me in order to defend - what effectively amounts to - peddling proven scams and fraud; that are no more proven to do what they claim than voodoo. I will enjoy walking you into my - deliberately telegraphed - right cross. Before I go and on your comments . . . I assume you have conducted your own rigorous research on Wallach and Youngevity? Love it. :) :)


-stormcentre :


-deepwater2 :

Nutrition is a lively discussion more so than Algieri V Spence it seems. Vitamins and minerals are the key to life. Nature holds the answer. Homeopathy works for many ailments. Eating non GMO foods and unprocessed foods are a great way to stay healthy and disease free. Since no one cares about spence et al , I just watched the Ali Wepner match on YouTube in Hd on my smart tv. What a great fight. What entertainment.!! Even the weigh in was funny and exciting. The commercials between rounds,from way back then, are better than most Super Bowl commercials. The right had me and the wife at the edge off our seats despite knowing the outcome. Please re watch Ali Wepner on the big screen and enjoy.


-brownsugar :

Wepner is currently sueing an American studio for stealing and using his movie script based on his life story called "Bleeder". Loosely based on his life leading up to his fight on Ali. It As far as ashes go. There was public outrage when consumers learned than some major dogfood manufactures were adding ashes to dog food for mineral support. Ashes can be acidic, alkaline or neutral depending on the source material, all that remains in Ashe are a few trace minerals including phosphorus, calcium, and manganese etc... The dog food producers argued that ashes were used as a way to enhance vitamin content. (and not as a filler) Some of them switched to a more tradition way of providing vitamins, some of them still use ashes to this very day, check the label on your dog food if it matters. By the way the human body reduces down to about 11$ of minerals when burnt if any one cares.


-Radam G :

There is a saying that trolling -- I mean ugly -- needs company too. In that stretch that you don't hear from the troll for a while, you will know that the grim reaper got his arse. Hehehe! Ashes to ashes, dust to dust! And every buster, to troll, he will lust. But in the twinkling of an eye, full of inflammation and umpteen diseases, DIE quickly, he will and must. Meanwhile: Da Manny had a rough day in his first day of sparring. I wonder how it is going in the camps of E-Spence and C-Al? Holla!


-Radam G :

Nutrition is a lively discussion more so than Algieri V Spence it seems. Vitamins and minerals are the key to life. Nature holds the answer. Homeopathy works for many ailments. Eating non GMO foods and unprocessed foods are a great way to stay healthy and disease free. Since no one cares about spence et al , I just watched the Ali Wepner match on YouTube in Hd on my smart tv. What a great fight. What entertainment.!! Even the weigh in was funny and exciting. The commercials between rounds,from way back then, are better than most Super Bowl commercials. The right had me and the wife at the edge off our seats despite knowing the outcome. Please re watch Ali Wepner on the big screen and enjoy.
Ditto, Ditto! A GIANT Roger dat! And it is a shame that the "key" is in plain sight. And the door can be easily opened. But idiots and trolls are out in the valley of stupidity, and free radicals, cancers and bone-to-bone arthritis up in the cranium are making them see mirages while their brain cells are quickly rottening away. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

Ditto, Ditto! A GIANT Roger dat! And it is a shame that the "key" is in plain sight. And the door can be easily opened. But idiots and trolls are out in the valley of stupidity, and free radicals, cancers and bone-to-bone arthritis up in the cranium are making them see mirages while their brain cells are quickly rottening away. Holla!
Is anyone on this thread confused about the importance of vitamins and minerals?( Notice the Ocean water reference, think about Pac's shoulder feeling better after swimming in the ocean) A quick rundown: Minerals are the nutrients that exist in the body, and are as essential as our need for oxygen to sustain life. Minerals are also found in organic and inorganic combinations in food. In the body only 5% of the human body weight is mineral matter, vital to all mental & physical processes & for total well being. They are most important factors in maintaining all physiological processes, are constituents of the teeth, bones, tissues, blood, muscle, and nerve cells. Acting as catalysts for many biological reactions within the human body, they are necessary for transmission of messages through the nervous system, digestion, & metabolism or utilization of all nutrients in foods. Vitamins cannot be properly assimilated without the correct balance of minerals. For example; calcium is needed for vitamin "C" utilization, zinc for vitamin "A", magnesium for "B" complex vitamins, selenium for vitamin "E" absorption, etc. Minerals are very important in keeping the blood and tissue fluids from either becoming too acid or too alkaline, and they allow other nutrients to pass into the bloodstream, and aid in transporting nutrients to the cells. They also draw chemicals in & out of the cells. A slight change in the blood concentration of important minerals can rapidly endanger life. Many times, minerals are discussed separately, but it is important to note that their actions within the body are interrelated; no single mineral can function without the others, since they are synergistically related. They are the electrolytes to the body, that is; they carry the electrical current through the body. There is much proof that the body is run electrically, and minerals are the conductor of these currents. They provide the necessary charge or "ionization" of positive or negative electrical molecules. Ions keep the "human battery" charged. If a person is lacking in minerals or deficient in any one particular one, they can become run down very rapidly. A diet rich in green vegetables and fruits, and whole grains grown in fertile soil may afford some assurance of minerals, but much of our soil today is depleted and lacking in essential nutrients. Adding mineral-trace mineral supplements to the diet, will provide some insurance. If there is a problem with poor digestion & assimilation, the best method might be to add liquid minerals to the diet, to afford easier absorption & rapid assimilation. Liquid minerals from the sea, a natural source, have shown beneficial results in the shortest length of time. Sea water has been shown to have the same chemical balance as the human blood, so may be used quite adequately in the human body. Having the proper balance of minerals in the body can make the difference between disease or sickness and optimum health.


-Radam G :

Is anyone on this thread confused about the importance of vitamins and minerals?( Notice the Ocean water reference, think about Pac's shoulder feeling better after swimming in the ocean) A quick rundown: Minerals are the nutrients that exist in the body, and are as essential as our need for oxygen to sustain life. Minerals are also found in organic and inorganic combinations in food. In the body only 5% of the human body weight is mineral matter, vital to all mental & physical processes & for total well being. They are most important factors in maintaining all physiological processes, are constituents of the teeth, bones, tissues, blood, muscle, and nerve cells. Acting as catalysts for many biological reactions within the human body, they are necessary for transmission of messages through the nervous system, digestion, & metabolism or utilization of all nutrients in foods. Vitamins cannot be properly assimilated without the correct balance of minerals. For example; calcium is needed for vitamin "C" utilization, zinc for vitamin "A", magnesium for "B" complex vitamins, selenium for vitamin "E" absorption, etc. Minerals are very important in keeping the blood and tissue fluids from either becoming too acid or too alkaline, and they allow other nutrients to pass into the bloodstream, and aid in transporting nutrients to the cells. They also draw chemicals in & out of the cells. A slight change in the blood concentration of important minerals can rapidly endanger life. Many times, minerals are discussed separately, but it is important to note that their actions within the body are interrelated; no single mineral can function without the others, since they are synergistically related. They are the electrolytes to the body, that is; they carry the electrical current through the body. There is much proof that the body is run electrically, and minerals are the conductor of these currents. They provide the necessary charge or "ionization" of positive or negative electrical molecules. Ions keep the "human battery" charged. If a person is lacking in minerals or deficient in any one particular one, they can become run down very rapidly. A diet rich in green vegetables and fruits, and whole grains grown in fertile soil may afford some assurance of minerals, but much of our soil today is depleted and lacking in essential nutrients. Adding mineral-trace mineral supplements to the diet, will provide some insurance. If there is a problem with poor digestion & assimilation, the best method might be to add liquid minerals to the diet, to afford easier absorption & rapid assimilation. Liquid minerals from the sea, a natural source, have shown beneficial results in the shortest length of time. Sea water has been shown to have the same chemical balance as the human blood, so may be used quite adequately in the human body. Having the proper balance of minerals in the body can make the difference between disease or sickness and optimum health.
Great stuff! But watch the troll(s) try to debunk it with immense circumlocution of self-made dogma and his science-fiction retorts that he always attempt to pass off as science. I have no doubt that a bug of Rheumatoid Arthritis is eating away at all 29 bones of his head, thus his neurons have gone haywire and his brain cells have become cannibalistic and are chowing down on each other. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Great stuff! But watch the troll(s) try to debunk it with immense circumlocution of self-made dogma and his science-fiction retorts that he always attempt to pass off as science. I have no doubt that a bug of Rheumatoid Arthritis is eating away at all 29 bones of his head, thus his neurons have gone haywire and his brain cells have become cannibalistic and are chowing down on each other. Holla!
Nope not me Brother Voodoo. No Rheumatoid Arthritis eating away at me here; as I have your magic elixir and other voodoo cures and have been drinking them proactively. How about you? Feeling like a truth-preacher that got caught in the back room fornicating with the lying devil, yet? After all you're running up to more than 3 years in a row now, where you have been making unfulfilled claims and peddling miracle cures based that - when exposed for what little truth/fact they possess - you run from and/or use little *escape-decoys such as those I discuss below. Getting tired yet are we? I suspect you could continue like this for another 10 years, and more power to you if you do and that's the world you liVe in. Humor around here wouldn't be the same if you changed and the truth was somehow mistaken for and treated as if it were myth. Anyway, that "Wallach-Youngevity/Magic-Mineral-Spiel" - even without the "do your own research" fake authenticity tag line - was just beautiful.

[QUOTE=Radam G (post #45); Wallach's Amazing Arthritis Cure Peddled By Brother Voodoo]In the meantime holla at this:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3qQxoai90s. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #50); Wallach's Amazing Youngevity Scam Peddled By Brother Voodoo] You have a lot to gain. And an end to pain. Mentally and physically, it can all be slain.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Mh30-SXDg. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #53); Wallach's Amazing/Hypocritical "Story" About Dead Doctors Don't Lie & So Called Medical Lies, Peddled By Brother Voodoo]First World commoners are dropping like flies. But keep believing medical lies.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kfXScGUIk3Y. Meanwhile:
a ton of pugs are now turned on to the effective sport's rehydration and replenishment drink REBOUND. I'm just sayin!' Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #57); Wallach's Amazing Story About Magic Minerals/Nutrients Peddled By Brother Voodoo]You are the master of your body. But you need to give it body-building protections, and it will follow your directions. Remember your body has 50 trillion cells. You ain't been treating them well. And they are getting your attention by smacking noisy, painful bells. Before long, they are going to start shooting. And all around you will be bomb shells. You are in crying-out-for-relief pain, I can tell. And since you don't need to, it makes no sense going through that type of hell.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BfRSiAu1bI4. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #61); Wallach's Amazing Cure For Kidney Disease & Holyfield's Heart & Knees Peddled By Brother Voodoo]This is Doc Wallach's testimony of getting "Real Deal" Holyfield straight, and back into da game.
Holla at the right thing, and you will end the pain. And mad knowledge, you will gain.
Never listen to dumb syet dat diz, dat and da third cannot be medically healed. If you correct it in time with the soup of Mother Nature, for a ton of years, you will be able to kick behinds.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MrwkApO6s. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #62); Wallach's Amazing/Magical Mineral Cure For Theo Ratliff Peddled By Brother Voodoo]One more
true video of an injured athlete who medical doktors gave us on.
But the mineral and vitamin doktor, Doc Wallach, fixed him straight up:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dZbaAV2EKi0. Holla![/QUOTE] Oh, and by the way, how do you feel writing posts like that on the back of, and also those that support, Wallach's fraudulent claims? For someone that obviously researches all their claims and takes offence with the crimes of the traditional medical world you sure seem happy to mislead people about what is effectively a Multilevel Marketing (MLM) scheme ran by a guy that is no more a medical doctor than you are reliable?

Anyway, thanks for all that. And thanks also for walking right into my right cross with all your comments about it and Wallach; and his "Magic Minerals" - that you were obviously way too hard/excited about - due to all the related financial/MLM possibilities - to bother even checking the facts before you rushed all the above posts (replete with laughably unscrutinized Wallach hyperlinks) out to the masses. Yep, you sure walked into that right cross didn't you Brother Voodoo? You see, because I know you simply can't help yourself with these things and would rather promote a falsehood by making false claims about others than admit the truth; I set you right up for that. After all, if you can have fun lying, promoting a fraud, and personalizing your defence of such actions and rights; conversely, I surely can have fun with the truth. So . . . I just sat back, let you make all your defensively personalized and misdirecting claims on the back of, not just all those hilarious mineral/other claims/cures you (without any meaningful scrutiny) made - but also all you posted/preached about the scammer Wallach . . then I waited until you thought you had another poster on the hook with your ""do your own research"" fake authenticity tag line . . . then BOOM . . . I moved in with the truth you requested I research, and also the big right cross. You were not only easy - but predictable down to how/when you would run; *escape-decoys. In fact - truth (please forward my apologies to Wallach and Brother Voodoo for using that word) be told - I am not sure you have even progressed your (pretending) game any since last year, at all. To me (and please see the remaining portion of this post for more proof; *escape-decoys) it's that same . . .


Step 1: Put logic to one side and demand others to do the same (if they want to be a part of the brotherhood) before big claim is published.
Step 2: Then release "amazing/rash" claim about miracle cure that the world has somehow overlooked.
Step 3: Then proceed to attack anyone that dares question the miracle/claim that - allegedly - debunks all known science/medicine known to man.
Step 4: Then when proof (and the research you suggest others should conduct) is actually provided that substantiates you were doing nothing other than investing in fool's gold and peddling false hope; ignore it, shift your mobile goalposts (*escape-decoys), and commence pretending other's posts (such as D2's) agree with you. All as a means to round the troupes up and address your mistakes/insecurity. Oh, I almost forgot to mention the step that you never ever forget to do . . . .
Step 5: Never (ever) avail yourself of the truth/proof. Not even when it is explicitly requested and/or presented to you (post #67) in bold and colored highlights; so it's easy to read and learn from. That way you can keep pretending. It's almost like the boxer that loses the biggest fight of his life (after making all the big predictions in the world) and then - rather than accept defeat/truth - he refuses to accept the loss in real terms; so then he makes an excuse and possibly even uses an injury he previously faked and held onto.

Of course I could be wrong about all this. Not only that, I am actually prepared to be also. And in that case you Brother Voodoo (and peddler of "Magic Youngevity Minerals" that cure serious diseases whilst we don't ask you to explain) . . . [QUOTE=Radam G]Great stuff! But watch the troll(s) try to debunk it with immense circumlocution of self-made dogma and his science-fiction retorts that he always attempt to pass off as science.[/QUOTE] . . . . I am sure you will be able to (cease running from, and) debunk my post #67 on each point that it highlights (please note that - especially for you - they're highlighted in colors and
bolded just to prevent you running {stupid of me I know} and to also make it easy for those, just like Brother Voodoo, that normally flee from the truth in ways that are the polar opposite to how they usually "gravitate at great speed" to false claims) how your claims about, and promotion of, Wallach's exploits/products (as a means of introducing miracle cures that modern science has missed) are as fraudulent as Joel Wallach is. Now, Brother Voodoo, you please be sure to give that above-mentioned activity (debunking my post #67 - that exposes you - on each point that it highlights) exactly the same dedication and effort as that which we have observed from you when posting, not just the above "great stuff; *escape decoy" post (of yours) to which I respond to here - but also that which you have imparted into all the laughably fraudulent links and guff you have released not just about Wallach - but also those pertaining to your false claims about me; won't you? Moving on . . . ..
Escape-decoys Obviously, from your above "great stuff" post - rather than face "da real real truth" - it's easier for you to (continue to) pretend that you weren't ;

a) So easily misled about Wallach's claims that you were practically swinging from the chandeliers about them and telling everyone to "do their own research (like you allegedly had)"; when, in actual fact, your research was as woefully inadequate as your (i) truth-rejection-denial-styled comprehension of post #67, (ii) your subsequent and transparent circumlocution/other excuses, and also (iii) what that all means for all your other wild and predictably unbelievable claims/hyperlinks that promote the "Wallach Magic Youngevity Mineral Fraud" and his previously busted and completely laughable version of mineral/miracle cures for arthritis, grey hair, diabetes, ulcers, and more!!!! b) Simply busted for peddling Wallach's claims about minerals, cures, and products on that (completely flawed) basis.

Instead, preferring to use that good old trick of placing energy into pretending others - that you usually rely upon when donkey azz is torn as wide as post #67 has torn it for you - agree with you; as a means of (further) pretending that your initial point (about Wallach, minerals and cures) was something other than what it really was - all in order to continue on in the same goofy manner. I say this because if what Deep says about minerals is truly "great stuff" (and on the whole there is not too much wrong with what he broadly says about minerals) and material that you genuinely connect with . . . .
Then - please tell - how does that all sit with all your rubbish and posted hyperlinks about the promotion of Wallach and his "Magic Youngevity Minerals" that cure serious diseases so long as we don't ask you to explain this and/or his claims? Please explain (the operation of this
"escape-decoy" of yours) Brother Voodoo; whom always researches his stuff before peddling and defending it.
And I hope you will appreciate dat . . . . until dat ever elusive explain of de
"escape-decoy" happen and originate from Brother Vodoo himself. . . I will have no other choice but to use Brother Vodoo's existing "Miracle Mineral & Diabetes Curing" claims and all their many/varied excuses (wheeled out only when the claims questioned) as the new/definitions for;

a) Not only that "confirmation bias" I refer to in post #67. b) But also the above-mentioned
escape-decoy I speak of.

Now . . . if I am not mistaken I think I have to rush to an appointment with a 250 year old Chinese woman whom apparently has been cured from arthritis, grey hair, diabetes, and ulcers by simply drinking these amazing RadamG-promoted and Wallach invented Colloidal Minerals that are . . . supposedly . . . . wait for it . . . . . yes folks 90-98 per cent absorbable . . . because . . . wait for it . . . yes folks their small particle size and negative charge. Must be true eh? After all no-one has confirmation bias here. And after all (as Wallach says); "Dead Doctors don't live past 58 or lie" - do they Radam?
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25116-Errol-Spence-Jr-vs-Chris-Algieri-Brooklyn-Bound-on-April-16&p=94146&viewfull=1#post94146 Finally, no-one should be confused about minerals; not even our good D2.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25116-Errol-Spence-Jr-vs-Chris-Algieri-Brooklyn-Bound-on-April-16&p=94154&viewfull=1#post94154
->http://www.mgwater.com/import.shtml As RG himself openly requested in his earlier post . . ""do your own research"", all the required research had already been conducted and was contained within the above-linked post #67 (and its provided links, such as;
->http://nutra-smart.net/al.htm ). Therefore that post and all related links actually carry all the research/information required to;

a) Not only substantiate the fraud that is Wallach (and those that go out of their way to support Wallach) and his "incredible" claims about "Colloidal Minerals"/"Glacial Milk". b) But also a detailed breakdown/analysis of (i) all minerals and what they do in the human body, and also (ii) all that is wrong with (the fake Nobel nominated) Wallach's claims that Brother Voodoo was eagerly supporting/peddling whilst pretending to understand them. Heck, there's even a mineral chart and other proofs in there, that can help you not be so easily misled about what Brother Voodoo says!!!

Perhaps it is that - in the hurried rush to save face and implement (bumble?) the above-mentioned "escape-decoy" - these provided facts and ""da real-real truth and research"" was simply (again) overlooked, rejected, and not treated with even half the eagerness as that which we have witnessed Brother Voodoo display when publishing, defending, and also running away from, Wallach's fraudulent mineral related claims.

Remember brother Voodoo; don't ever let the truth get in the way of a good ""do your own research (but ignore all the points you don't like)"" "Multilevel Marketed Mineral Fake Medical Doctor & Fake Nobel Nominated Scamming Story" will you? And don't ever admit you're wonderfully clueless and/or easily misled and wrong;
*escape-decoy. Love it and all the goofy, clueless, and denial filled MLM donkey humor that goes with it. Best wishes, Your faithful truth-troll;
Storm. :) :)


-SuperLight :

You're intelligent enough to do your own research. Also a lot of things are discovered by taking a leap of faith.
Yes indeed. Now on PM I've told you I haven't tried those products so could neither confirm nor deny their benefits. I succinctly gave you my educated conclusion (opinion or guess if you prefer) and I believe we understand each other. Let's remain gentlemen and leave that there. I trust your good intentions to help a brother who ails, and have openly thanked you, B-Sug and others who have chimed in on this. But, and there usually is a "but", isn't there?, though I am not cynical, I am sceptical. What do I mean? Many moons ago when I majored in history, it helped to be an eager beaver reader. It was also inculcated in me and my fellow students that we engage in historiography - not just reading about what happened when, but questioning the sources and looking at their respective contexts and agendas. In short, to question everything. If I was a cynic I'd say to trust no-one, a la Mulder and Scully. When I see something presented by a doctor, I wonder is he a medical doctor, a professor of linguistics, or more the Dr Phil or Dr Dre kind? Now the latter has produced some fine music, to be sure, but I wouldn't trust him to literally get all up in my head. When I hear "it's all in nature... and we've bottled it in a pill" I'm likewise sceptical. I'd previously seen the website stormcentre mentioned and summarised. Let's be honest, it doesn't take a genius to find all this information presented in the public domain. There's not much useful I can add to the Storm's breakdown. You're all big kids, and can read/watch all this for yourselves. I will say one thing, and take it as a straw man or ad hominem argument if you will. In one of the links Radam provided, Dr Wallach was talking about the then-recently deceased Anthony Mason (of New York Knicks fame), where he made some bold claims and, in my opinion, some disrespectful and distasteful remarks concerning Mason's son. You all can judge for yourselves if you wish. Now I know our neighbourhood truth-troll has been busy formulating the above rebuttal, but I wonder were there any studies on diet and/or supplements you could point us to for boxers or athletes in general? I'm not expecting magical discoveries, but I am curious to what has been scientifically demonstrated. My anecdotal evidence is limited to caffeine increasing alertness, and pads being better hit on a full stomach than empty. Not exactly blowing anyone's mind, I'm sure. Full disclosure: I mentioned my coach did more for me than the physio. I believe in physiotherapy, but I stopped going to that one when she put the machine on me and started responding to mobile phone messages. Coach gives me his undivided attention. I'm old-fashioned that way. More disclosure: I've not yet tried the red pepper fix for joint relief, besides having two capsicum-rich meals the past few days. I'm still off ibuprofen and it still hurts. Last, I still say Spence has Algieri's arse. I'll certainly be happy for the "heart throb" if he proves me wrong.


-stormcentre :

d By Brother Voodoo]In the meantime holla at this:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3qQxoai90s. Holla!
[QUOTE=Radam G (post #50); Wallach's Amazing Youngevity Scam Peddled By Brother Voodoo] You have a lot to gain. And an end to pain. Mentally and physically, it can all be slain.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Mh30-SXDg. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #53); Wallach's Amazing/Hypocritical "Story" About Dead Doctors Don't Lie & So Called Medical Lies, Peddled By Brother Voodoo]First World commoners are dropping like flies. But keep believing medical lies.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kfXScGUIk3Y. Meanwhile:
a ton of pugs are now turned on to the effective sport's rehydration and replenishment drink REBOUND. I'm just sayin!' Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #57); Wallach's Amazing Story About Magic Minerals/Nutrients Peddled By Brother Voodoo]You are the master of your body. But you need to give it body-building protections, and it will follow your directions. Remember your body has 50 trillion cells. You ain't been treating them well. And they are getting your attention by smacking noisy, painful bells. Before long, they are going to start shooting. And all around you will be bomb shells. You are in crying-out-for-relief pain, I can tell. And since you don't need to, it makes no sense going through that type of hell.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BfRSiAu1bI4. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #61); Wallach's Amazing Cure For Kidney Disease & Holyfield's Heart & Knees Peddled By Brother Voodoo]This is Doc Wallach's testimony of getting "Real Deal" Holyfield straight, and back into da game.
Holla at the right thing, and you will end the pain. And mad knowledge, you will gain.
Never listen to dumb syet dat diz, dat and da third cannot be medically healed. If you correct it in time with the soup of Mother Nature, for a ton of years, you will be able to kick behinds.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MrwkApO6s. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #62); Wallach's Amazing/Magical Mineral Cure For Theo Ratliff Peddled By Brother Voodoo]One more
true video of an injured athlete who medical doktors gave us on.
But the mineral and vitamin doktor, Doc Wallach, fixed him straight up:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dZbaAV2EKi0. Holla![/QUOTE]


b) And in the context of all those "well researched and confidently published" posts/claims, let's just see if our Brother Voodoo can man up, meaningfully explain, and address (even half of) my concerns - with Radam's own claims - that are detailed (in
/
bolded print) within the section titled "
The Story of Stuart Adams resisting and discovering he was being scammed by Joel Wallach (Australian Longevity Pty Ltd); Aka "Mr. Magic Minerals" " that is itself housed within my post #67. Later - if he's feeling adventurous - Brother Voodoo can address those concerns that I have drafted within post #74.

And, just to make things easy-peasy . . . here are some links to the post I refer to . . . .
Post #67 =
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25116-Errol-Spence-Jr-vs-Chris-Algieri-Brooklyn-Bound-on-April-16&p=94146&viewfull=1#post94146
Post #74 =
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25116-Errol-Spence-Jr-vs-Chris-Algieri-Brooklyn-Bound-on-April-16&p=94161&viewfull=1#post94161



Brother Voodoo . . . . where art thou? Are you lost and/or astral travelling within the (Wallach inspired) spirit world somewhere? :) Quick, come back . . . . we want you to holla at the real thing . . . . . plus, we have some questions about your "Magical Mineral", "Incredible Youngevity", "Diabetes Cures", and some of the other fantastic voodoo claims/posts you have made?


Storm. (Aka; truth troll). :) :)


-Radam G :

Yes indeed. Now on PM I've told you I haven't tried those products so could neither confirm nor deny their benefits. I succinctly gave you my educated conclusion (opinion or guess if you prefer) and I believe we understand each other. Let's remain gentlemen and leave that there. I trust your good intentions to help a brother who ails, and have openly thanked you, B-Sug and others who have chimed in on this. But, and there usually is a "but", isn't there?, though I am not cynical, I am sceptical. What do I mean? Many moons ago when I majored in history, it helped to be an eager beaver reader. It was also inculcated in me and my fellow students that we engage in historiography - not just reading about what happened when, but questioning the sources and looking at their respective contexts and agendas. In short, to question everything. If I was a cynic I'd say to trust no-one, a la Mulder and Scully. When I see something presented by a doctor, I wonder is he a medical doctor, a professor of linguistics, or more the Dr Phil or Dr Dre kind? Now the latter has produced some fine music, to be sure, but I wouldn't trust him to literally get all up in my head. When I hear "it's all in nature... and we've bottled it in a pill" I'm likewise sceptical. I'd previously seen the website stormcentre mentioned and summarised. Let's be honest, it doesn't take a genius to find all this information presented in the public domain. There's not much useful I can add to the Storm's breakdown. You're all big kids, and can read/watch all this for yourselves. I will say one thing, and take it as a straw man or ad hominem argument if you will. In one of the links Radam provided, Dr Wallach was talking about the then-recently deceased Anthony Mason (of New York Knicks fame), where he made some bold claims and, in my opinion, some disrespectful and distasteful remarks concerning Mason's son. You all can judge for yourselves if you wish. Now I know our neighbourhood truth-troll has been busy formulating the above rebuttal, but I wonder were there any studies on diet and/or supplements you could point us to for boxers or athletes in general? I'm not expecting magical discoveries, but I am curious to what has been scientifically demonstrated. My anecdotal evidence is limited to caffeine increasing alertness, and pads being better hit on a full stomach than empty. Not exactly blowing anyone's mind, I'm sure. Full disclosure: I mentioned my coach did more for me than the physio. I believe in physiotherapy, but I stopped going to that one when she put the machine on me and started responding to mobile phone messages. Coach gives me his undivided attention. I'm old-fashioned that way. More disclosure: I've not yet tried the red pepper fix for joint relief, besides having two capsicum-rich meals the past few days. I'm still off ibuprofen and it still hurts. Last, I still say Spence has Algieri's arse. I'll certainly be happy for the "heart throb" if he proves me wrong.
Any true thing under the sun can be found. And the more truth in it, the easier that it can be found. It not rocket science. But still believe nothing that you hear. And a tenth of what you see. There are optical illusions everywhere. And snake oil sell persons are at every nook waiting for your arse to hook. And following a Yellow Brick Road will get you to the Emerald Palace in the Land of Oz where you will find a troll -- I mean a humbug -- behind a curtain. And then you will wake up and realize that you fell in the garden and bumped your noggin. Take your time. Do your research. And take that leap of faith. Maybe you thought or knew that Dr. Wallach was disrespectful, but he sees, and have seem, too many people kicking the bucket unnecessary and too soon because of a lack of knowledge and gone-astray medical doktors using them for a-t-m cards. We have one life. And it should not be in pain. Especially when easy healing and repairing can be gain. Holla!


-SuperLight :

Very diplomatic SL.
Dammit. Me and my diplomacy. I'm working on it.


-Radam G :

Is anyone on this thread confused about the importance of vitamins and minerals?( Notice the Ocean water reference, think about Pac's shoulder feeling better after swimming in the ocean) A quick rundown: Minerals are the nutrients that exist in the body, and are as essential as our need for oxygen to sustain life. Minerals are also found in organic and inorganic combinations in food. In the body only 5% of the human body weight is mineral matter, vital to all mental & physical processes & for total well being. They are most important factors in maintaining all physiological processes, are constituents of the teeth, bones, tissues, blood, muscle, and nerve cells. Acting as catalysts for many biological reactions within the human body, they are necessary for transmission of messages through the nervous system, digestion, & metabolism or utilization of all nutrients in foods. Vitamins cannot be properly assimilated without the correct balance of minerals. For example; calcium is needed for vitamin "C" utilization, zinc for vitamin "A", magnesium for "B" complex vitamins, selenium for vitamin "E" absorption, etc. Minerals are very important in keeping the blood and tissue fluids from either becoming too acid or too alkaline, and they allow other nutrients to pass into the bloodstream, and aid in transporting nutrients to the cells. They also draw chemicals in & out of the cells. A slight change in the blood concentration of important minerals can rapidly endanger life. Many times, minerals are discussed separately, but it is important to note that their actions within the body are interrelated; no single mineral can function without the others, since they are synergistically related. They are the electrolytes to the body, that is; they carry the electrical current through the body. There is much proof that the body is run electrically, and minerals are the conductor of these currents. They provide the necessary charge or "ionization" of positive or negative electrical molecules. Ions keep the "human battery" charged. If a person is lacking in minerals or deficient in any one particular one, they can become run down very rapidly. A diet rich in green vegetables and fruits, and whole grains grown in fertile soil may afford some assurance of minerals, but much of our soil today is depleted and lacking in essential nutrients. Adding mineral-trace mineral supplements to the diet, will provide some insurance. If there is a problem with poor digestion & assimilation, the best method might be to add liquid minerals to the diet, to afford easier absorption & rapid assimilation. Liquid minerals from the sea, a natural source, have shown beneficial results in the shortest length of time. Sea water has been shown to have the same chemical balance as the human blood, so may be used quite adequately in the human body. Having the proper balance of minerals in the body can make the difference between disease or sickness and optimum health.
For real pugs like myself, deep water2 and a couple of other legit ones, we can easily point you to fighters' diets. I can go back over a 120 years. But I don't intend to get into a pi$$ing contest with the hateful troll. Besides, you can probably Google the diet of many fighters, such as the late, great Archie Moore, Sugar Ray Robinson, Jack Dempsey and Benny Leonard, to name a few.
->http://www.boxing.com/jim_jeffries_how_to_train_how_to_hit.html. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Hmm . . . . no direct response to any of the (many) issues raised earlier in relation to all Brother Voodoo's (many) miracle and untrue claims; that were themselves released with a Voodoo urgency and frequency that would both audibly and visibly put an ambulance siren to shame. And now . . . . wow . . . It's now - all of a sudden - the complete opposite to what we had before . . . when (before all the miracle Voodoo/Wallach claims were exposed) we were awash with and completely without escape from Brother Voodoo's proactively fluid willingness to both manufacture and enter into "any" type of discussion that presented himself with the platform to provide advice about Wallach's Magic Multilevel Marketed Miracles/Minerals (MMMMM). Now (that the truth is out) we simply can't drag Brother Voodoo - or his Voodoo Dolls - anywhere near the vicinity of his thoroughly exposed MMMMM claims. Or anywhere near the vicinity of the questions that relate to all their impressive cures. Still, no surprises there really. As this has happened almost 100% of the times before when Brother Voodoo (BV) - or DonkeyClown, DoubleWorldChampion, PacEntourage, I'mAnAcedamiaToo, or any of the other aliases that BV was so aptly known by as back then - saw fit to release incredible claims (over and over again) without so much as even a passing thought as to what may possibly happen if/when he is asked to explain both himself and his seemingly permanent case of verbal diarrhea. I wonder, does this all now mean that (BV can't explain them) we will all now receive no more "Voodoo Promotional Posts" for Wallach's miracle products/videos and his magical minerals? Brother Voodoo - a real pug (no doubt) cause he tells us - sure specialises (well, at least these last 4 years anyway) in getting the facts wrong, getting all excited about the mistakes, and then running from the truth. Given those traits the dude probably has better chances of being a junior athletics track runner - than a real boxer that backs up what he says, stays in check, and faces up to his all claims, mistakes, and issues. Still, perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on BV. Maybe the benefit of the doubt is in order here. After all, all BV's patented stupidity and lies are probably just the side effects of moving around at the speed of light as he astral travels through the (Wallach, Youngevity, MLM, and Magic Mineral's inspired) spirit world? All is not lost though, and its not all Voodoo, doom, and gloom; as here is a groovy tune from Nick Sember that we put the finishing touches on and released a short while ago; just in time for A&BGT Sydney. Enjoy!!!

PS: Pay attention Brother Voodoo, as this is how you use a forum to discuss something unrelated that you may be involved in; you utilise a product that is fun, one that lives up to is claims, and you then use the guidelines of honesty to discuss it. Foreign concepts I know. :) :)
Storm.


-brownsugar :

Hmm . . . . no direct response to any of the (many) issues raised earlier in relation to all Brother Voodoo's (many) miracle and untrue claims; that were themselves released with a Voodoo urgency and frequency that would both audibly and visibly put an ambulance siren to shame. And now . . . . wow . . . It's now - all of a sudden - the complete opposite to what we had before . . . when (before all the miracle Voodoo/Wallach claims were exposed) we were awash with and completely without escape from Brother Voodoo's proactively fluid willingness to both manufacture and enter into "any" type of discussion that presented himself with the platform to provide advice about Wallach's Magic Multilevel Marketed Miracles/Minerals (MMMMM). Now (that the truth is out) we simply can't drag Brother Voodoo - or his Voodoo Dolls - anywhere near the vicinity of his thoroughly exposed MMMMM claims. Or anywhere near the vicinity of the questions that relate to all their impressive cures. Still, no surprises there really. As this has happened almost 100% of the times before when Brother Voodoo (BV) - or DonkeyClown, DoubleWorldChampion, PacEntourage, I'mAnAcedamiaToo, or any of the other aliases that BV was so aptly known by as back then - saw fit to release incredible claims (over and over again) without so much as even a passing thought as to what may possibly happen if/when he is asked to explain both himself and his seemingly permanent case of verbal diarrhea. I wonder, does this all now mean that (BV can't explain them) we will all now receive no more "Voodoo Promotional Posts" for Wallach's miracle products/videos and his magical minerals? Brother Voodoo - a real pug (no doubt) cause he tells us - sure specialises (well, at least these last 4 years anyway) in getting the facts wrong, getting all excited about the mistakes, and then running from the truth. Given those traits the dude probably has better chances of being a junior athletics track runner - than a real boxer that backs up what he says, stays in check, and faces up to his all claims, mistakes, and issues. Still, perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on BV. Maybe the benefit of the doubt is in order here. After all, all BV's patented stupidity and lies are probably just the side effects of moving around at the speed of light as he astral travels through the (Wallach, Youngevity, MLM, and Magic Mineral's inspired) spirit world? All is not lost though, and its not all Voodoo, doom, and gloom; as here is a groovy tune from Nick Sember that we put the finishing touches on and released a short while ago; just in time for A&BGT Sydney. Enjoy!!!
PS: Pay attention Brother Voodoo, as this is how you use a forum to discuss something unrelated that you may be involved in; you utilise a product that is fun, one that lives up to is claims, and you then use the guidelines of honesty to discuss it. Foreign concepts I know. :) :)
Storm.
Looks like youv'e been busy catching a net full of red herrings, must be fish n' chips day...lol... That vid reminds me of how much fun we had in Aussey the last time I was there. Of couse they were called discos instead of raves back then. One of theee most friendliest and funnest placed in the world. Hey!!!...Leave some meat on dem bones next time....lol. Health and nutrition is my #1 favorite subject ..... so hopefully the thread is still going when I have time to make it back . Enjoyed the post. Even if it meant the awesome step up match between Algieri and Spence was pushed aside. Got another friday off!!! Go Spence!!!!


-stormcentre :

Yep, thanks for all that. It's not my favorite form of communication, but sometimes a little truth flavored forum-biffo is not entirely without merit. Especially when we're dealing with the sort of sneaky, dirty, and unreliable voodoo that we have seen over the last week or so; where it's just impossible to get some people to man up and explain (not even with half of the vigor shown as when they released) their claims/actions . . . that amongst a raft of other curious claims/things . . . appear specifically designed to deceive posters/readers into thinking that miracle cures/elixirs are here and now, and all you have to do receive the miracle benefits is (suspend your common sense, take a leap of faith, and be as gullible as those peddling them, and) both buy them and possibly enter into an unannounced MLM scheme. This matter and the proverbial donkey's azz is blown wide apart now; but - in closing - if you want a real laugh and insight into the psychology (or lack of it) at work here with BV . . . just take a look at his post #79. Within that revealing/crying post you will see;

a) Not just implicit features and indicators of the ever popular ""complement another poster as a means of hopefully calling him to help/arms"" technique; something that has enjoyed widespread popularity in the past here and been a mainstay of puppies/Queening. b) But also the congenital symptoms and/or embedded implicit confessions that (almost) say ""I am not quite ready to start *lying again just yet""; that themselves model the absolutely fatigueless pre-occupation the BV author in question clearly has with such an *activity - just as much as it betrays the difficulty BV experiences with refraining from such a *task. The implicit and congenital indicators and admissions of equivocation-addiction and also defeat don't stop there though, as BV has cleverly "shaped" what little real product may actually ever eventuate/result from his efforts related to refraining from further *pretending into quite an "inventive" explanation that itself appears specifically designed - or, better put proactively loaded with a ready made excuse - to justify any (reader's) observation of his relaxation of verbal diahorrea . . . such that - in that unlikely event - it appears to be present in terms of only a "kind spirited (donkey's voodoo infected) soul that wants not to enter into urination contest. Aside from why rampant verbal diahorrea (such as - and that's just a small sample - that cut/pasted from BV's post contained within point "a" of my above post #76) designed to separate folk from both their logic and wallets is acceptable - whilst bulk Voodoo laced urine (which is probably what's in Wallach's magical colloidal minerals and glacial milk that Brother Voodoo was heavily pushing and touting) and ".pissing contests" are not; these interesting components of Brother Voodoo's cry for help - especially now that Wallach, Brother Voodoo, and Youngevity is completely exposed - appear fabricated with the sole intention to prevent any public interpretation of an observed (temporary; isn't it always?) decrease in the frequency and/or intensity of lies from being perceived as what they rightly are; an admission of being caught.

And, aside from saving the masses from investing in Magic Minerals, Youngevity and Wallach/BV's MLM scams; these psychological insights - if I do say so myself - are not only just beautiful (
Storm puckers his lips and makes the sound "mmmmmwhaa") . . . . but they're also simply all a little troubled truth troll peddling the eternally unpopular truth and pretending to be a psychologist . . could ever hope for. "Glacial Milk" and "Colloidal Minerals" baby . . . all the way !!!!!!! Just (make sure you) take a (voodoo inspired) leap of faith and ensure you suspend it, commonsense, and all questions . . . until - at least - you have paid for the Youngevity products. As at/after that time - when/if you do actually discover that they're mostly multilevel marketing PyramidPiss and no better than high quality multivitamins and a good/basic diet - you will (no doubt) probably feel the peer group pressure (one origin of "confirmation bias") not to tell the world just how easily sucked in you were (by Brother Voodoo). I have not even started on the USA arm of this scam yet, so Brother Voodoo - for whatever (above discussed) explanation you have given and may believe - probably best to just let it ride. :) Moving on . . . . . BS, I almost skipped by your other thread . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25109-another-story-slipped-between-the-cracks-PAC-GATE . . the other day to mention that I read somewhere that Pac is being sued (again . . what's the count now??). This time, apparently, by a waiter. So . . not too sure how valid the story was and/or the chances of success, but was pretty sure that snippet probably wouldn't make it into this forum unless you or I raised it. Nutrition is also fast becoming one of my favorite topics too, as it seems that many experts in that industry still don't have it all down pat. As, some thin people can eat high cholesterol, carbohydrate, and fatty, diets all their lives without too much problem. Conversely, others can do the opposite - eat low cholesterol, carbohydrate, and fatty, diets - and still not see an acceptable change. Still, it's a complex subject and one that makes for much Voodoo and many myths; whether or not they be aggressively/fraudulently multilevel marketed to us. Personally - and this also goes to my above (post #76) comments to SL - I think there is much to be said for both;

1) How humans are conditioned and/or stressed in the womb to dietary intake and other factors. 2) The bacterial family that exists and constantly changes/evolves within our guts; that could reasonably be called another organ of the human body.


Storm thinks that these considerations- that are only now just starting to be properly scientifically understood and researched (so no-one will have to take a leap of faith with respect to any related discoveries, and unlike Wallach/Youngevity, the results will be tested, accurate, and published in respected journals) in conjunction with all the accepted principles out there about diet and nutrition - in addition to all the reasonably well known axioms pertaining to exercise/diet will greatly enhance our understanding of what the real drivers are for weight loss, weight gain, and health. Yes, of course, if you noticeably and/or severely limit your dietary intake whilst exercising extremely hard and frequently you will almost always lose weight; as boxers and many other athletes do. But not only is that not always an option for many people - it seems to work less effectively with age also, and I suspect that the related and knowledgeable scientific community to these matters themselves suspect it should not be "that" hard to - at least slowly - lose/control weight. :) :)
Storm.

PS: Above track is fresh out. And yes I will leave some meat on the bones for you (funny). I think the term rave is still used, but - especially in the early days - it was mostly used here in Oz to define EDM parties at locations where the police were not aware of them. As such, it seems to have less appeal these days; as the police are pretty savvy with social media, and to them raves = elicit drugs. So EDM/musician promoters don't like the term anymore than dancers like being busted and/or fight promoters appreciate the financial/other implications of a good PED scandal before their PPV investment airs.


-Radam G :

To the haters, posers and troll(s). You don't know syet. What is the number one drink in the corners and on the sidelines of the most of pro sports? And what will it be in the O-Games? And a doctor who was once nominated for a Nobel Prize invented it. Anyway, this drink is used in the corners by a lot of pugs. Boksing has gotten smart and halted "just water in the corner" nonsense. Resupplying the body with the soup of vitamins, minerals and amino acids on da "QUICK, OUICK is now a learnt must. Maybe TSS will holla at the powers that be about it. And ask what is up? And who in da double fudge who is Pinoy Radam G? Hehe! Anyway holla at this old clip of Amb. Young:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3JzHAfh9-mI. Holla!


-stormcentre :

slain.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Mh30-SXDg. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #53); Wallach's Amazing/Hypocritical "Story" About Dead Doctors Don't Lie & So Called Medical Lies, Peddled By Brother Voodoo]First World commoners are dropping like flies. But keep believing medical lies.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kfXScGUIk3Y. Meanwhile:
a ton of pugs are now turned on to the effective sport's rehydration and replenishment drink REBOUND. I'm just sayin!' Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #57); Wallach's Amazing Story About Magic Minerals/Nutrients Peddled By Brother Voodoo]You are the master of your body. But you need to give it body-building protections, and it will follow your directions. Remember your body has 50 trillion cells. You ain't been treating them well. And they are getting your attention by smacking noisy, painful bells. Before long, they are going to start shooting. And all around you will be bomb shells. You are in crying-out-for-relief pain, I can tell. And since you don't need to, it makes no sense going through that type of hell.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BfRSiAu1bI4. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #61); Wallach's Amazing Cure For Kidney Disease & Holyfield's Heart & Knees Peddled By Brother Voodoo]This is Doc Wallach's testimony of getting "Real Deal" Holyfield straight, and back into da game.
Holla at the right thing, and you will end the pain. And mad knowledge, you will gain.
Never listen to dumb syet dat diz, dat and da third cannot be medically healed. If you correct it in time with the soup of Mother Nature, for a ton of years, you will be able to kick behinds.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MrwkApO6s. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #62); Wallach's Amazing/Magical Mineral Cure For Theo Ratliff Peddled By Brother Voodoo]One more
true video of an injured athlete who medical doktors gave us on.
But the mineral and vitamin doktor, Doc Wallach, fixed him straight up:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dZbaAV2EKi0. Holla![/QUOTE]

. . . Miracle claims. And frankly BV that's really where we are right now with this . . . "torn donkey azz" Voodoo matter . . . that represents the latest episodic example of your boundary-less gullibility, imagination, and interest in separating readers from their cash, based on your claims/reliability.

***************************
Morals & Ethics *************************** The definition of ethics is often considered to be a branch of philosophy which involves itself with discussions and questions (I know you don't like that word; sorry) of morality. One could say that ethics and moral philosophy are interchangeable. Now I know those two words are probably foreign concepts; but stay with me please. Morals can be considered to relate to the principles of conduct; whether things, claims, and even actions, are right or wrong. So, one that knows and practices the distinction between what's right and wrong, can be considered to also be ethical and one possessing acceptable moral attitudes. From the concepts of "morals" and "ethics" flows the concepts of (amongst many others); "honesty", "reliability", "consistency", and "selflessness". *************************** *************************** ***************************

That said, and with the above concepts/words "morals", "ethics", "honesty", "reliability", "consistency", and "selflessness" in mind . . . . . And not forgetting also that the claims you (and Wallach) make (and run from) are clearly and explicitly intended to influence readers, posters, and others to;


a) Not only; (take a leap of faith in, never question, and simply) "believe" in your personal ability to both discover and accurately validate "cures", "potions", and "remedies" that supposedly treat/cure serious life threatening diseases and other ailments (like diabetes and arthritis) - just as much as the same "leap of faith" advice is also claimed to improve sporting performances . . whilst never/ever offering tangible proof.
b) But also; spend their money on (the unannounced multilevel marketing and other aspects of) your suggestions and claims . . . .

Then . . . .

Brother Voodoo . . . . . Not only is
not a medical doctor (contrary to that which your posts explicitly infer) and is, himself, instead, a vet; simply peddling a Multilevel Marketing scheme (something else you also "forgot" to tell everyone in your above posts, that themselves exhibit all the hallmarks of impetuous genetic projections pasted upon a public toilet wall). But has also been busted for false claims about being Nobel nominated, and (amongst a myriad of other "Pyramid-scheme like" things) peddling his unproven and overhyped products to those wheelchair bound and/or desperate for a resolution to serious illnesses?

Or is it the case that these ethics, morals, considerations and concerns never come to mind; due to the fact that there has long been absolutely no place in there for them since invention, delusion, fabrication, and voodoo took up inhabitance?
Before you relapse back into DonkeyClown again with these delusional obsessions; please ask yourself these two important questions Brother Voodoo . . . .


1) As Brother Voodoo, is there a reason why I - for some reason - don't find it strange that I can't (without evasion) even begin to answer the simple *questions about that which I preach so loudly (including above posts
Storm has kindly cut/paste for me)?

By simple *questions, we mean those here . . .
Post #67 =
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25116-Errol-Spence-Jr-vs-Chris-Algieri-Brooklyn-Bound-on-April-16&p=94146&viewfull=1#post94146

See section titled;
"The Story of Stuart Adams resisting and discovering he was being scammed by Joel Wallach (Australian Longevity Pty Ltd); Aka "Mr. Magic Minerals".


Post #74 =
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25116-Errol-Spence-Jr-vs-Chris-Algieri-Brooklyn-Bound-on-April-16&p=94161&viewfull=1#post94161

See section about escape decoys and that bolded in
for you.




2) As Brother Voodoo, is there a reason why I (or Wallach) - for some reason - are unable to point to where all these (Glacial-Milk-drinking) people are, that are all "miracle cured" as a result from all the incredible products I am peddling and trying to sell, but can't answer questions about?



Brother Voodoo . . I tell ya . . . the need to self promote yourself out of the depths of self worth must truly be great to take these galloping risks and grand canyon leaps of faith. Seriously, newly introduced zoo monkeys flying/swinging (and throwing faeces) about as they uncontrollably act out their anti-realism/social tendency fuelled in-cage-rampages, exhibit far more logic and acceptably underlying ethics than this. C'mon dude. Why can't you back your shite up and either explain or answer questions as well as you can preach and peddle miracle cures. C'mon Brother Voodoo. I mean . . with your last "
recidivistic obsession post" . . it's starting to border on stupidity beyond belief (even for you Brother Voodoo), and an obsession with *something that exists clearly in only the realms that your uncontrolled imagination inhabits. Wake up Brother Voodoo that Sumatran Hash was stronger than you thought. *Magic Minerals and Glacial Milk that cure diseases (without ever presenting verifiable proof of such) in ways Wallach claims for financial gain - is as laughably suspect as you telling us you're in Pac's Entourage whilst at the same time still expecting us to believe all that was later "excuse-released" (after Pac lost) by you about (justifying) the NSAC PacFraud and Pac's supposed (ready made) MayPacShoulderInjury. All when the very night before MayPac you (at the very same time you {later} claimed {but only after Pac lost} you knew all along that Pac had the fight-losing injury that both completely explains the MayPac loss whilst also justifying his injury/excuse) were still screaming (dreaming?) here in these forums that PacJuice will KO Floyd in Vegas as you wear your fedora hat at the fight. All of which was (surprise, surprise) so abjectly wrong that you couldn't gallop away from it and any questions about it fast enough afterwards . . . instead choosing to replace what would otherwise be truthful admissions . . . with more Voodoo logic that rambled on about Floyd's 122 clinches and so forth . . that . . . . wait for it . . . was (again) claims from you that were found out to be not only lies - but was also another claim you ran from . . hee haw !!!!! Aside from the laughs (which I sincerely thank you for); that's simply awesome form you're displaying here Brother Voodoo. Can't see why you like Wallach and his Youngevity scam; or what you two have in common. How about this? Do yourself a favour "Brother V" and . . . .

Even before you ask "others" to take a blind leap of faith with things/claims you say . . . . Even before you take a blind leap of faith with things/claims that . . (i) you want to peddle, (ii) you expect others to pay for, (iii) sound too good to be true, and (iv) you (know you) will undoubtedly gallop from if (even remotely) asked about . . . .

How about you (don some feathers, take a voodoo doll in whatever hand it is of yours that's not usually preoccupied with genetic releases, and neatly position a candle within a skull so it casts soft and "mysterious" light on all your bottled potions, and then) take some of your own well published (and above/below cut/pasted {post #61}) advice . . or should I say "medicine" . . . and . . . .

Brother Voodoo (post #61);
Never listen to dumb syet dat diz, dat and da third cannot be medically healed.

That way BV, you too - just as you Voodoo preach to all - can holla at (and do) the right (rather than the misleading/dishonest) thing !!!!! Seriously dude, at what point do you say . . .

""this pretending and lying gig is getting me absolutely nowhere - I am busted - and I am not only making a fool out of myVoodooSelf - but I've also been caught publicly lying, so many times, about magical cures for diseases (that either don't exist or are unproven) in ways where I also (almost always) somehow deliberately forget to announce that the "magical cures" I peddle are associated with multilevel marketing (pyramid) schemes created by those whom mislead about their qualifications and supposed Nobel prize nominations. And, as if that's not enough, as an example of how much of a slow learner I am . . . I will also willingly do all the above (whilst personalising my defensively minded attacks {that take far more effort/time than telling the truth and/or explaining myself} on anyone that knows both, better and what I am doing) immediately after . . . say, the last 2 or 3 years of having my donkey jazz just ripped apart for doing . .. nothing other than mostly publishing, over and over and over and over again . . a noticeably higher amount of misleading claims than, say, those I otherwise publish that either may be reliable and/or I didn't gallop away from when asked to explain them"".

Seriously dude . . . . . (humour aside) your form is really starting to look pathological here . . . . . I don't want to have to drag Donkey (or DonkeyClown) out again . . . Here he is . . . Remember him?
However - with your last post and how it addresses none of the reasonable and referenced concerns I previously raised about, not just your earlier claims and magical-minerals-peddling-actions - but also how Wallach/Youngevity appears to have already been caught opportunistically preying on those that are disabled and vulnerable . . . You're really starting to make me think that donkey never (deservedly) went away and is somehow just another personality/truth disorder that exists within Brother Voodoo, PacEntourage, and all the rest . . et al. In summary . . . . I think our Brother Voodoo may be prone to
recidivism. Which for those out there that are not sure, is . . . . . the act of a donkey or person repeating undesirable actions and/or behaviors despite the fact that they have either experienced negative consequences of that behavior previously - or have been asked and/or (donkey) trained to extinguish that behaviour. Fast learner right here folks. More than 3 years in the "recidivistic pretending wheelhouse" where he's been busted with the spotlight shone squarely in his eyes thousands of times. Yet the dude (with, if nothing else, just the above-mentioned and utterly lame attempt at substituting a supposed Olympic drinks subject swap - for both Wallach’s and Brother Voodoo’s already busted lies and scam; as a means of saving face) still is not only in denial - but straight back into fabricating again. Don't worry, that's not in any way an indication or sign that our Brother Voodoo is addicted to, and should stop, lying/pretending. All I can say to that is;

1) Rock on 2016 and all the DonkeyLaughs that will undoubtedly come with it then. 2) Heaven; I have finally found a southpaw clown that; (i) loves right crosses, (ii) refuses to learn (about the truth/ethics and/or defence), (iii) seems to eats them up in a manner where it doesn't make him any less stupid with each shot, (iv) is clueless to the damage they do, and (v) would prefer to consistently come back for more than ac
[QUOTE=Radam G (post #50); Wallach's Amazing Youngevity Scam Peddled By Brother Voodoo] You have a lot to gain. And an end to pain. Mentally and physically, it can all be slain.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Mh30-SXDg. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #53); Wallach's Amazing/Hypocritical "Story" About Dead Doctors Don't Lie & So Called Medical Lies, Peddled By Brother Voodoo]First World commoners are dropping like flies. But keep believing medical lies.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kfXScGUIk3Y. Meanwhile:
a ton of pugs are now turned on to the effective sport's rehydration and replenishment drink REBOUND. I'm just sayin!' Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #57); Wallach's Amazing Story About Magic Minerals/Nutrients Peddled By Brother Voodoo]You are the master of your body. But you need to give it body-building protections, and it will follow your directions. Remember your body has 50 trillion cells. You ain't been treating them well. And they are getting your attention by smacking noisy, painful bells. Before long, they are going to start shooting. And all around you will be bomb shells. You are in crying-out-for-relief pain, I can tell. And since you don't need to, it makes no sense going through that type of hell.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BfRSiAu1bI4. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #61); Wallach's Amazing Cure For Kidney Disease & Holyfield's Heart & Knees Peddled By Brother Voodoo]This is Doc Wallach's testimony of getting "Real Deal" Holyfield straight, and back into da game.
Holla at the right thing, and you will end the pain. And mad knowledge, you will gain.
Never listen to dumb syet dat diz, dat and da third cannot be medically healed. If you correct it in time with the soup of Mother Nature, for a ton of years, you will be able to kick behinds.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x2MrwkApO6s. Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G (post #62); Wallach's Amazing/Magical Mineral Cure For Theo Ratliff Peddled By Brother Voodoo]One more
true video of an injured athlete who medical doktors gave us on.
But the mineral and vitamin doktor, Doc Wallach, fixed him straight up:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dZbaAV2EKi0. Holla![/QUOTE]

. . . Miracle claims. And frankly BV that's really where we are right now with this . . . "torn donkey azz" Voodoo matter . . . that represents the latest episodic example of your boundary-less gullibility, imagination, and interest in separating readers from their cash, based on your claims/reliability.

***************************
Morals & Ethics *************************** The definition of ethics is often considered to be a branch of philosophy which involves itself with discussions and questions (I know you don't like that word; sorry) of morality. One could say that ethics and moral philosophy are interchangeable. Now I know those two words are probably foreign concepts; but stay with me please. Morals can be considered to relate to the principles of conduct; whether things, claims, and even actions, are right or wrong. So, one that knows and practices the distinction between what's right and wrong, can be considered to also be ethical and one possessing acceptable moral attitudes. From the concepts of "morals" and "ethics" flows the concepts of (amongst many others); "honesty", "reliability", "consistency", and "selflessness". *************************** *************************** ***************************

That said, and with the above concepts/words "morals", "ethics", "honesty", "reliability", "consistency", and "selflessness" in mind . . . . . And not forgetting also that the claims you (and Wallach) make (and run from) are clearly and explicitly intended to influence readers, posters, and others to;


a) Not only; (take a leap of faith in, never question, and simply) "believe" in your personal ability to both discover and accurately validate "cures", "potions", and "remedies" that supposedly treat/cure serious life threatening diseases and other ailments (like diabetes and arthritis) - just as much as the same "leap of faith" advice is also claimed to improve sporting performances . . whilst never/ever offering tangible proof.
b) But also; spend their money on (the unannounced multilevel marketing and other aspects of) your suggestions and claims . . . .

Then . . . .

Brother Voodoo . . . . . Not only is
not a medical doctor (contrary to that which your posts explicitly infer) and is, himself, instead, a vet; simply peddling a Multilevel Marketing scheme (something else you also "forgot" to tell everyone in your above posts, that themselves exhibit all the hallmarks of impetuous genetic projections pasted upon a public toilet wall). But has also been busted for false claims about being Nobel nominated, and (amongst a myriad of other "Pyramid-scheme like" things) peddling his unproven and overhyped products to those wheelchair bound and/or desperate for a resolution to serious illnesses?

Or is it the case that these ethics, morals, considerations and concerns never come to mind; due to the fact that there has long been absolutely no place in there for them since invention, delusion, fabrication, and voodoo took up inhabitance?
Before you relapse back into DonkeyClown again with these delusional obsessions; please ask yourself these two important questions Brother Voodoo . . . .


1) As Brother Voodoo, is there a reason why I - for some reason - don't find it strange that I can't (without evasion) even begin to answer the simple *questions about that which I preach so loudly (including above posts
Storm has kindly cut/paste for me)?

By simple *questions, we mean those here . . .
Post #67 =
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25116-Errol-Spence-Jr-vs-Chris-Algieri-Brooklyn-Bound-on-April-16&p=94146&viewfull=1#post94146

See section titled;
"The Story of Stuart Adams resisting and discovering he was being scammed by Joel Wallach (Australian Longevity Pty Ltd); Aka "Mr. Magic Minerals".


Post #74 =
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?25116-Errol-Spence-Jr-vs-Chris-Algieri-Brooklyn-Bound-on-April-16&p=94161&viewfull=1#post94161

See section about escape decoys and that bolded in
for you.




2) As Brother Voodoo, is there a reason why I (or Wallach) - for some reason - are unable to point to where all these (Glacial-Milk-drinking) people are, that are all "miracle cured" as a result from all the incredible products I am peddling and trying to sell, but can't answer questions about?



Brother Voodoo . . I tell ya . . . the need to self promote yourself out of the depths of self worth must truly be great to take these galloping risks and grand canyon leaps of faith. Seriously, newly introduced zoo monkeys flying/swinging (and throwing faeces) about as they uncontrollably act out their anti-realism/social tendency fuelled in-cage-rampages, exhibit far more logic and acceptably underlying ethics than this. C'mon dude. Why can't you back your shite up and either explain or answer questions as well as you can preach and peddle miracle cures. C'mon Brother Voodoo. I mean . . with your last "
recidivistic obsession post" . . it's starting to border on stupidity beyond belief (even for you Brother Voodoo), and an obsession with *something that exists clearly in only the realms that your uncontrolled imagination inhabits. Wake up Brother Voodoo that Sumatran Hash was stronger than you thought. *Magic Minerals and Glacial Milk that cure diseases (without ever presenting verifiable proof of such) in ways Wallach claims for financial gain - is as laughably suspect as you telling us you're in Pac's Entourage whilst at the same time still expecting us to believe all that was later "excuse-released" (after Pac lost) by you about (justifying) the NSAC PacFraud and Pac's supposed (ready made) MayPacShoulderInjury. All when the very night before MayPac you (at the very same time you {later} claimed {but only after Pac lost} you knew all along that Pac had the fight-losing injury that both completely explains the MayPac loss whilst also justifying his injury/excuse) were still screaming (dreaming?) here in these forums that PacJuice will KO Floyd in Vegas as you wear your fedora hat at the fight. All of which was (surprise, surprise) so abjectly wrong that you couldn't gallop away from it and any questions about it fast enough afterwards . . . instead choosing to replace what would otherwise be truthful admissions . . . with more Voodoo logic that rambled on about Floyd's 122 clinches and so forth . . that . . . . wait for it . . . was (again) claims from you that were found out to be not only lies - but was also another claim you ran from . . hee haw !!!!! Aside from the laughs (which I sincerely thank you for); that's simply awesome form you're displaying here Brother Voodoo. Can't see why you like Wallach and his Youngevity scam; or what you two have in common. How about this? Do yourself a favour "Brother V" and . . . .

Even before you ask "others" to take a blind leap of faith with things/claims you say . . . . Even before you take a blind leap of faith with things/claims that . . (i) you want to peddle, (ii) you expect others to pay for, (iii) sound too good to be true, and (iv) you (know you) will undoubtedly gallop from if (even remotely) asked about . . . .

How about you (don some feathers, take a voodoo doll in whatever hand it is of yours that's not usually preoccupied with genetic releases, and neatly position a candle within a skull so it casts soft and "mysterious" light on all your bottled potions, and then) take some of your own well published (and above/below cut/pasted {post #61}) advice . . or should I say "medicine" . . . and . . . .

Brother Voodoo (post #61);
Never listen to dumb syet dat diz, dat and da third cannot be medically healed.

That way BV, you too - just as you Voodoo preach to all - can holla at (and do) the right (rather than the misleading/dishonest) thing !!!!! Seriously dude, at what point do you say . . .

""this pretending and lying gig is getting me absolutely nowhere - I am busted - and I am not only making a fool out of myVoodooSelf - but I've also been caught publicly lying, so many times, about magical cures for diseases (that either don't exist or are unproven) in ways where I also (almost always) somehow deliberately forget to announce that the "magical cures" I peddle are associated with multilevel marketing (pyramid) schemes created by those whom mislead about their qualifications and supposed Nobel prize nominations. And, as if that's not enough, as an example of how much of a slow learner I am . . . I will also willingly do all the above (whilst personalising my defensively minded attacks {that take far more effort/time than telling the truth and/or explaining myself} on anyone that knows both, better and what I am doing) immediately after . . . say, the last 2 or 3 years of having my donkey jazz just ripped apart for doing . .. nothing other than mostly publishing, over and over and over and over again . . a noticeably higher amount of misleading claims than, say, those I otherwise publish that either may be reliable and/or I didn't gallop away from when asked to explain them"".

Seriously dude . . . . . (humour aside) your form is really starting to look pathological here . . . . . I don't want to have to drag Donkey (or DonkeyClown) out again . . . Here he is . . . Remember him?
However - with your last post and how it addresses none of the reasonable and referenced concerns I previously raised about, not just your earlier claims and magical-minerals-peddling-actions - but also how Wallach/Youngevity appears to have already been caught opportunistically preying on those that are disabled and vulnerable . . . You're really starting to make me think that donkey never (deservedly) went away and is somehow just another personality/truth disorder that exists within Brother Voodoo, PacEntourage, and all the rest . . et al. In summary . . . . I think our Brother Voodoo may be prone to
recidivism. Which for those out there that are not sure, is . . . . . the act of a donkey or person repeating undesirable actions and/or behaviors despite the fact that they have either experienced negative consequences of that behavior previously - or have been asked and/or (donkey) trained to extinguish that behaviour. Fast learner right here folks. More than 3 years in the "recidivistic pretending wheelhouse" where he's been busted with the spotlight shone squarely in his eyes thousands of times. Yet the dude (with, if nothing else, just the above-mentioned and utterly lame attempt at substituting a supposed Olympic drinks subject swap - for both Wallach’s and Brother Voodoo’s already busted lies and scam; as a means of saving face) still is not only in denial - but straight back into fabricating again. Don't worry, that's not in any way an indication or sign that our Brother Voodoo is addicted to, and should stop, lying/pretending. All I can say to that is;

1) Rock on 2016 and all the DonkeyLaughs that will undoubtedly come with it then. 2) Heaven; I have finally found a southpaw clown that; (i) loves right crosses, (ii) refuses to learn (about the truth/ethics and/or defence), (iii) seems to eats them up in a manner where it doesn't make him any less stupid with each shot, (iv) is clueless to the damage they do, and (v) would prefer to consistently come back for more than accept reality.

Brother Voodoo . . . step right up, and welcome home. Hope you know a good dentist. Love it !!!!


Storm. :) :)


-Radam G :

One has to watch trick lists of the uber-murderous CIA. It doesn't count syet without a bias agenda. For instance, it only count those persons born with a Birth Certificate. And it is a known fact that most of the world population before 1930 didn't have birth certificates that are accepted by the CIA, U.S. State Department, National Geographic and Guinness book of records. Many people -- even born in the USA -- still are not having birth certificate at birth. BTW, average of the longevity of a country is misleading, because the Third, Fourth an Fifth World Countries have more infant deaths, but more 90 to 115 year olds. Many of the Middle East and African countries are at war. So when the longevity life counters put down all of those soldiers who died at 15 to 20 years old in the mix of people living 80 to 120 years old, you are to get a life expectancy of 49 to 59 years old like Chad or Mali. In black U.S. America, the life expectancy is 65.5 for dudes and 68 for dudettes. But why? Killings by crimes, cops, bad foods, negligent doktors, tainted water and on each other. Average life expectancy is misleading. Medium life expectancy is the best way to go. And blue zones of Costa Rica and Okinawa lead the pack. In most types of deaths, the USA now clearly lead the world. It even has the most births, but is aborting fetuses liking like waste from anals. GTFOH! Even the U.S. Poltricksters, including Don Trump recently spoke about that. Again, don't be bamboozled by bias pro-Western statistics. Put up a list of the countries with the most 75-to-130 year olds per capital. And the U.S. mainland is near the bottom. Don't try to imperialistically bulljive. No hate! I'm just calling a spade a spade. This front doesn't sync.
->http://www.infoplease.com/world/statistics/life-expectancy-country.html. Holla!
The USA probably would have several more champions, but they didn't make it among the living because of death by doktors. No hate! I'm just the messenger. The USA mainland leads the world in authorized, legal abortions, according to the United Nations. (So da D-Trump is right about the US mainland abortion practices.) Also the USA is number 39 out of 72 of the most dangerous industrious countries for a baby to be born in a hospital. The infants are being harm and/or dying from infections because the doktors and nurses are not washing their hands, according to a medical watch group. Holla!