About That Golovkin vs. Canelo Sparring…

More often than one might think, fighters get a look at each other, get an up close scouting report on each other, before they fight for real.

For instance…If some folks get their wish, we could see Gennady Golovkin, the be all end all at middleweight, get challenged by the Mexican heart-throb/hitter, Canelo Alvarez, at 160.

Canelo says let him grow into that class, says he’s comfortable at 154 for now…but seems open to at some point tangling with the fighting pride of Kazakhstan.

On the Wenesday night edition of The Fight Game, we heard the redhead say that he’s sparred a few times with Golovkin, back a few years, and yes, he’d be open to doing it for real.

Hmm..I reached out to Golovkins’ trainer, Abel Sanchez.

Was he present for that sparring? How did it go?

“Of course I was. I think it was two times in my gym, in 2011 or 2012. Canelo was 21,” Sanchez said. How did it go? Did you have thoughts at the time, these guys might one day do it for real?

“GGG is nice guy and not abusive in sparring, he lets people work,” Sanchez said. “Doug Fischer was there for one of the sessions and wrote about it.”

And..did that work maybe inform you how a fight between them might look in 2016?

“I hope it happens,” said Sanchez, and I think I could hear the wink of his eye.

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COMMENTS

-Radam G :

Wow! Sparring is just for working on the fight plan. And sparring is also a strange, strange monster. Ninety-nine and nine-tenths of arse kickers in sparring sessions cannot fight in a real scrap with fans screaming and hos dreaming. Hehehe! It is just a fact that a lot of sparringmates that put it on you in the gym are just gym fighters. They cannot do jack under the hot lights as they can do in sparring sessions. Great pugs, other than Money May, are just aight scrappers in the gym, because as I wrote above, sparring is just for knifes sharpening and working out kinks. So getting beat up in the gym is no message to any madness. It is just a view, not a clue. Or the minimum of what you can do! It is rare to have a gym fighter who is also a great fighter. But there are a few. And there are other like Money May who looks super great in the gym, but just good or super good in the scrap of dat night. And it is because Money May takes chances with a triple-padded headgear on in sparring sessions, but with his bare head out in a real scrap, he is not willing to chance getting rocked and socked. Holla!


-amayseng :

Wow! Sparring is just for working on the fight plan. And sparring is also a strange, strange monster. Ninety-nine and nine-tenths of arse kickers in sparring sessions cannot fight in a real scrap with fans screaming and hos dreaming. Hehehe! It is just a fact that a lot of sparringmates that put it on you in the gym are just gym fighters. They cannot do jack under the hot lights as they can do in sparring sessions. Great pugs, other than Money May, are just aight scrappers in the gym, because as I wrote above, sparring is just for knifes sharpening and working out kinks. So getting beat up in the gym is no message to any madness. It is just a view, not a clue. Or the minimum of what you can do! It is rare to have a gym fighter who is also a great fighter. But there are a few. And there are other like Money May who looks super great in the gym, but just good or super good in the scrap of dat night. And it is because Money May takes chances with a triple-padded headgear on in sparring sessions, but with his bare head out in a real scrap, he is not willing to chance getting rocked and socked. Holla!
Agreed, this is where you work on things that you need to improve, hence struggling before improving. Plus a few years later we have improved and different fighters on our hands.


-stormcentre :

A lot of times in sparring - especially when it's with guys that are not from your gym (which is the differentiator that some here may have not considered) - when one guy starts to step it up, and the other (tries to and or does meaningfully) follows . . . what breaks out can and usually become a portent and/or window into the future if the 2 guys ever officially fought. I have not seen (or been in) too many heated sparring sessions - especially when it's with guys that are not from your gym - where the outcome of several separate instances of these sessions is not a good indicator to how a fight would go. :) :)


-samsa :

The Doug Fischer article that Abel Sanchez refers to comes up in Google. It's an interesting read, from the days when GGG was an unknown quantity. It sounds like G got the better of it back then.


-stormcentre :

Oh . . forgot to add, I heard - on very good/reliable authority - that the Canelo V 3G sparring session that took place ~ 2011 left no doubt that at that time 3G could own and was taking it easy on Canelo. At the moment, I see very little in Canelo that would not play into the powerful hands of 3G. That may change if he successfully fights Cotto and easily dominates. Time will tell. Finally, it is not rare to have a gym fighter who is also a great fighter. I have seen a few of them. Often, they're guys that have been in boxing a very long time, and know all the moves (but like veteran chess masters), but at the same time they haven't always got the time and stress levels to compete. Can't count the amount of times I have seen a guy going for a title, spar a gym fighter and be really impressed and/or owned. Sometimes these gym fighters don't translate into fighters because they don't want to, other times they already have been a good boxer and are now a "gym fighter", and other times they don't translate into fighters simply because they can't.


-SuperLight :

"Not abusive... lets people work". These are the guys that, in my limited experience, make the best sparring partners. They step it up appropriately. If they are better than you, they will test your weak points - go for the hole in your guard, time your jab coming in, make you work more - rather than act like they're going for a KO. The latter types render a round neither fun nor useful. Amayseng, do you see anything in these improved, different fighters that would turn things in Canelo's favour?


-SouthPawFlo :

I personally think that Canelo Vs GGG is a pick em fight... Canelo can be "out-boxed" but he's a better combination punching than GGG, and I haven't seen in fights that Canelo has been hurt a lot so his chin is solid, and Canelo has faced WAY WAY WAY BETTER competition, but GGG has the great equalizer in his Dynamite punching power, so I don't see the fight being a Blow-Out either way....


-stormcentre :

Floyd was stunning Canelo with his shots, and whilst Floyd is a far better precision puncher (with all punches in his kit); I doubt Floyd could hit Canelo as hard as 3G will. I think 3G (with the caveat of not knowing whether Canelo has really improved enough; the Cotto fight "may" tell us) could really hurt Canelo. In my opinion, Canelo is not familiar with Gennady's style, Canelo is too much of a "fighter" to not leave himself open, and Canelo has not had enough fights with really top level operators. Could be wrong though. Time will tell.