Golovkin Talks PEDs

The PED kerfuffle hit baseball way before fight sports, somewhat strange, I think, in that when you use PEDs to gain an extra advantage in baseball, you might crush the ball harder. In boxing, an extra edge can help you crack skulls harder, and if we are measuring the possibility of carnage, then one would think PEDs in boxing should be a hot button issue.

The story, the subject, waxes and wanes.

The PED situation popped up courtesy fightwriting dean Thomas Hauser before the last Floyd Mayweather fight, and he followed up with a check-in on Oct. 13.

I also wrote about WHY it matters, overall, and focused on that subject in the context of Floyd Mayweather.

Gennady Golovkin is at or near the lead of the pack to wrestle the leadership baton from “TBE,” so it serves that we, the fans, and the media, will be looking to him for clarity on many matters now.

Such as, PEDs in the game…What does he think about them?

“I think (testing) is very important for people,” the 33-year-old Kazakhstan native, who lives in California, told me. “Not just for athletes, for people. For next life…doping is not good for people. I use before this fight VADA testing, every time I show I don’t like doping…it’s very important. I like for everybody natural.”

Is it important as a leader to show you’re clean, I wondered..

His promoter Loeffler noted that in a combat sport, cheating can have disastrous consequences, so that’s important to his kid, and with the WBC, a push is being made to ramp up more testing.

Trainer Abel Sanchez told me 3G was tested about four times, by the VADA crew. “I believe one blood and three urines,” he said. And we know that Tom Hauser wrote of some seemingly early cutoffs for Floyd Mayweather, in some of his bouts being overseen by USADA. When was the last time Gennady was tested, by VADA?

“Yesterday (Thursday), late afternoon,” Sanchez told me. “Every time, they just showed up, no warning.” Solid, I say, as it should be…Amen…

I think all of us can encourage all these guys to walk the walk, be a role model in this area.

Some of the “leaders” I would expect to take a stand on this issue, the so-called sages and moralists in fact are conspicuously absent in their support of stringent testing.

You know some of the guys I’m thinking about….

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COMMENTS

-john Burns :


I don't know the guys he is talking about but I certainly would like to know. It would seem to me that the sanctioning bodies would require this testing. If not, the fans should hold them accountable. Also, how about the pay per view people. It would seem that they have great leverage to make damands for testing. How about television producers. They could demand fighters submit to testing or they don't get televised. Why isn't this a simple solution?


-stormcentre :

It's not a simple solution John because the sport is rife with drugs, and also because both promoters and (many) fighters don't (really) want PED testing. Neither do many boxing promoters and networks; despite what they say on camera. Other considerations are; also all those that write for the sport . . . . they all require *access to fighters and gyms. This access almost immediately stops if they even so much as hint that a fighter from "that" gym is dirty. So, this means you get a misdirected, selective, "puppy" and tribal like response to "dirty fighters". Where the audience claps and jeers regardless of the truth; so long as it takes the spotlight off their fighter, them too, and how they were easily misled about their fighter. This stuff has been going on for years . . .. where - not fighters that clearly are on the juice but come from popular gyms - but usually only fighters that people don't understand, are jealous of, and/or love to hate, are truly (not necessarily factually) incisively dissected by the media and fans. It's much safer for writers to do it that way, as then they don't risk their income, and they also look like they're tackling the PED issue; all whilst they provide a valuable (misdirection) service from popular gyms/fighters that clearly are on PEDs. All up, it's an agenda driven approach and ploy that makes the fans and writers of those (favored) fighters - that may actually be dirty - very happy. As misdirection as good as this simply can't be bought. And as such it assures not only fighter/gym access for the writer - but in some cases (such as Hauser) it ensures priority access . . . . which is as close as it gets to an exclusive story and guaranteed cheque, for boxing writers. When described like this, it's kind of like having the judge in your back pocket as you go to a hearing that the state/police have thought to prosecute you on. As, with writing about guys like Floyd in the selective and vindictive manner that Hauser does - which draws cheers from puppies (all as Pac's PED history is overlooked and his shoulder heals with salt water); there is very little risk for the writers. This means that, career-wise for boxing writers and the like, there is little downside associated with opening up on them/Floyd; all whilst other guys that - guys that both, are the recipient of misguided fans/media trust and also reside at popular gyms, consistently have a blind eye turned to them. Hauser with his wilful ignorance about Pacquaio and others, whilst he selects facts on Floyd in a most erroneous way, is a classic example of this. As are Pacquaio fans that ignore the plethora of errors in Hausers work and all that Pac can't answer and do. But Hauser - despite his obvious inability to address any of the errors and oversights within his previous articles that I have highlighted - is also a respected boxing writer too; so we must not forget that. And as such, many other boxing writers just hump his leg and fall in line with what Hauser says. They don't dare oppose, as doing so - even if it is in the best interests of the PED debacle - may be a bad career move. So . . . what all that means is that the PED issue is not ever getting looked at meaningfully; despite all the pants thrown in the air as PacQueens rejoice with the misdirection. It also means that the PED issue is always getting reported on and/or looked at selectively by boxing writers, and with the caveat of ""is this good or bad for my boxing writing career"". This is how it works in boxing. The above-mentioned *access (to gyms, stories, and therefore income) becomes much, much, harder if writers/people meaningfully and non-selectvely report on PED related facts; particularly if those facts relate to a gym/fighter that most other "competitor writers" may have access to, profit from, and choose not report on interesting patterns. This is one reason why no-body (Hauser included) wants to look at Pacquaio's (obvious) PED record. Whilst - at the very same time - almost everyone comes out of the woodwork for lesser/similar matters related to Floyd; whom - of course - beat Pacquaio, and in doing it made many writers and Pacquaio supporters look a little like little prematurely ejeculating puppies. Such was the rampant rubbish that was talked prediction-wise about MayPac, that the claims grew do dizzying heights matched only by their untruthfulness and hysteria. What 3G says about PEDs is nice. Heck, even the small amount of testing they're doing is good too. We should all applaud 3G bringing in VADA, as they're miles and miles ahead of USADA and far, far less corruptible. But with all that said/done; PEDs are here to stay my friend. Just as recreational drugs are and the war on them has been such a failure that the government would prefer to keep wasting millions on it rather than put that cash into rehab/heath care and say we got this wrong. Such levels of denial can be found in boxing and the way it looks at the PED issue, whilst writers single only the fighters out that they stand to loose the least from by scapegoating them. The PED problem is like saying ecstacy - or Molly as the USA cats call it - is a bad drug and should be banned from all dance clubs. Not going to happen. Never. Go out to a local dance club and see how well that policy has worked. Most police I know think the club-drug scene is unstoppable, and that they would rather deal with people on E than alcohol. People will always do with their bodies what they want - whether it's for pleasure or profit or both - and PED use is no exception. The fact that this world (regardless of gender) is all about reproduction, survival, and increasing your odds with that; guarantees that. :) :)


-stormcentre :

It's not a simple solution John because the sport is rife with drugs, and also because both managers and (many) fighters don't (really) want PED testing. Neither do many boxing promoters and networks; despite what they say on camera. Other considerations are; also all those that write for the sport . . . . they all require *access to fighters and gyms. This access almost immediately stops if they even so much as hint that a fighter from "that" gym is dirty. So, this means you get a misdirected, selective, "puppy" and tribal like response to "dirty fighters". Where the audience claps and jeers regardless of the truth; so long as it takes the spotlight off their fighter, them too, and how they were easily misled about their fighter. This stuff has been going on for years . . .. where - not fighters that clearly are on the juice and those that come from popular gyms - but usually only other fighters, fighters like Floyd that people don't understand, are jealous of, and/or love to hate; are truly (not necessarily factually) incisively dissected by the media and fans. It's much safer for writers to do it that way. As then they don't risk their income, and they also look like they're the patron saint of tackling the PED issue; all whilst they provide a valuable (misdirection) service to popular gyms/fighters that clearly are on PEDs. All up, it's an agenda driven approach and ploy that makes the fans and writers of those (favored) fighters - that may actually be dirty - very happy; just as much as it exclusively endears the writer to the fighter whom benefits from the misdirection and misinformation. Misdirection as good as this simply can't be bought. And as such it assures not only fighter/gym access for the writer - but in some cases (such as Hauser) it ensures priority access . . . . which is as close as it gets to an exclusive story and guaranteed cheque, for boxing writers. When described like this, it's kind of like having the judge in your back pocket as you go to a hearing that the state/police have thought to prosecute you on. As, with writers writing about guys like Floyd in the selective and vindictive manner that Hauser does - which draws cheers from puppies (all as Pac's PED history is overlooked and his shoulder heals with salt water); there is very little tangible risk. This means that, career-wise for boxing writers and the like, there is little downside associated with opening up on them/Floyd; all whilst other guys that - guys that both, are the recipient of misguided fans/media trust and also reside at popular gyms, consistently have a blind eye turned to them and their suspicious antics. Hauser with his wilful ignorance about Pacquaio and others, whilst he selects facts on Floyd in a most erroneous way, is a classic example of this. As are Pacquaio fans that ignore the plethora of errors in Hausers work and all that Pac can't answer and do. I simply can't wait for Hauser's next article on PEDs and Floyd, as I know it will be as easy to rip to shreds as it will - no doubt - find easy favour and virtue with PacQueens. But Hauser - despite his obvious inability to address any of the errors and oversights within his previous articles (that I have highlighted) - is also a respected boxing writer too; so we must not forget that. And as such, many other boxing writers just hump his leg and fall in line with what Hauser says. They don't dare oppose. As doing so - even if it is in the best interests of the PED debacle - may be a bad career move for them. And in this sense Hauser and the way the PED issue in boxing is currently reported on and dealt with is somewhat (and laughingly) assumed to be beyond reproach. So . . . what all that means is that the PED issue is not ever getting looked at meaningfully; despite all the pants thrown in the air as PacQueens rejoice with the misdirection. It also means that the PED issue is always getting reported on and/or looked at selectively by boxing writers, and with the caveat of - not is this the truth - but instead; ""is this good or bad for my boxing writing career"". This is how it works in boxing. The above-mentioned *access (to gyms, stories, and therefore writer's income) becomes much, much, harder if writers/people meaningfully and non-selectvely report on PED related facts; particularly when those facts relate to a gym/fighter that most other "competitor writers" may have access to and profit from, but selectively choose (as is often the case) to not report on. This is one reason why no-body (Hauser included) wants to look at Pacquaio's (obvious) PED record. Whilst - at the very same time - almost everyone comes out of the woodwork for lesser/similar matters related to Floyd; whom - of course - beat Pacquaio, and in doing so not only refused Hauser media access but also made many writers and Pacquaio supporters look a little like little prematurely ejeculating puppies. Such was the rampant rubbish that they all talked prediction-wise about MayPac, that the claims grew do dizzying heights that were matched only by the untruthfulness and hysteria of the claims themselves. What 3G says about PEDs is nice. Heck, even the small amount of testing they're doing is good too. We should all applaud 3G bringing in VADA, as they're miles and miles ahead of USADA and far, far less corruptible. But with all that said/done; PEDs are here to stay my friend. Just as recreational drugs are. And just as the war on them has been such a failure that governments all over the world would prefer to keep wasting millions on it, rather than putting that cash into rehab/heath care and simply say we got this wrong. Such levels of denial can be found in boxing and the way it looks at the PED issue too; whilst writers single out only the fighters that they stand to loose the least from by scapegoating them. The PED problem is like saying ecstasy - or Molly as the USA cats call it - is a bad drug and should be banned from all dance clubs. Not going to happen. Never. Go out to a local dance club and see how well that policy has worked. Most police I know think the club-drug scene is unstoppable, and that they would rather deal with people on E than alcohol. People will always do with their bodies what they want - whether it's for pleasure or profit or both - and PED use is no exception. The fact that this world (regardless of gender) is all about reproduction, survival, and increasing your odds with that; guarantees that. :) :)


-Radam G :

Unlike Lil Floyd, "a lot of drama" 3g will battle royal without being full of dat syet. Unless he ages overnight, he's going to destroy the very good Canadian pug. Holla!


-michigan400 :

Having it be required is a great idea! But, then folks start thinking with their wallet. "Who's paying for this mandatory test you demand?" Would be the question most asked. I don't even know how much it costs but I imagine its a lot and hard for lower level guys to pay for.