Hauser on Mayweather-Berto

There has been an outpouring of commentary about an article entitled “Can Boxing Trust USADA?” that I wrote last week for SBNation.com [http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada]. I plan on returning to the issues raised by that article at another time. This article is about Saturday night’s fight between Floyd Mayweather and Andre Berto.

Mayweather is one of the most gifted defensive fighters ever and also one of the most polarizing figures in boxing. He was raised by fighters and has amassed an unblemished record of 49 victories in 49 pro fights.

“Floyd knows everything there is to know about boxing except losing,” his uncle (former WBA super-featherweight and WBC super-lightweight champion Roger Mayweather) has said.

Mayweather is a fifteen-round fighter in a twelve-round era. He tires less than his opponent as a fight goes on. Ray Leonard (who most knowledgeable observers place comfortably above Floyd in historical rankings), acknowledges, “Mayweather is one of the best conditioned fighters I have ever seen, bar none. You have to give him his credit. Sometimes there’s outrageous things he says and does. But when he goes into that ring, he’s always in shape. That’s what I respect about him.”

But there’s a downside to the Mayweather saga.

Floyd has a well-documented history of violence against women.

His conspicuous consumption and constant bragging about how much money he makes appeals to some. But given the reality of economic inequality in America today, it turns a lot of people off.

Recently, Mayweather bought a car called the Koenigsegg CCXR Trevita for $4,800,000. In recent years, he has bought more than one hundred luxury cars.

According to the University of Nevada Las Vegas website, the cost of living on-campus and attending UNLV for a full school year is $20,012. That includes tuition, fees, rent, utilities, food, books, other school supplies, transportation, and miscellaneous personal expenses.

Instead of adding that car to his collection, Mayweather could have taken the money and gifted 240 full-year scholarships to young men and women in his hometown of Las Vegas. And for readers who are saying, “Why doesn’t Hauser donate some money for scholarships,” I’ll note that, several years ago, I had a financial windfall and donated $6,700 to the Arthur Curry Scholarship Fund at St. Francis College in Brooklyn.

Where Mayweather’s in-ring performances are concerned, the most valid complaint has been his choice of opponents. Mayweather has never beaten an elite fighter in his prime. In recent years, he has avoided the best available competition, preferring to fight ordinary opponents or once-dangerous fighters who’ve seen better days.

Andre Berto fit into the Mayweather-opponent mold.

Berto’s father was a Haitian immigrant who competed as a mixed martial artist when Andre was a boy and ran a martial arts academy in Winter Haven, Florida, when Andre was growing up.

“I was exposed to a lot of things early, good and bad,” Berto told this writer several years ago. “Winter Haven is a rough town. Drugs, street gangs, AIDS; it’s all there. A lot of kids think there’s no way out, that there’s no way they can be better than what’s there. You see guys who could have been superstar athletes who gave in to drugs. I had a vision early that I could be great. In school, I was always a little stronger, a little faster, and a little better than the other kids. I wanted to be one of the ones who stood out. And I was living off the example that my father set for me. Self-respect, hard work, stay straight, stay focussed. When I was growing up, my father always told me, ‘The saddest thing in the world is wasted talent.’”

Andre played running back for the Winter Haven High School football team and ran the 100 and 200-yard dash in track. But his true love was boxing. “Running the streets” had a different meaning for him. He was doing roadwork. When he came to school with a black eye and puffed-up lip, it was from sparring, not a gang fight.

By the time Berto was a senior in high school, boxing had taken him to 22 countries. He was a decorated amateur, compiling a 260-and-12 record. He was knocked down twice in the amateurs but never stopped.

The knockdowns came at the 2002 National Golden Gloves.

“I’d won it the year before and was ranked number-one in the country at 152 pounds,” Berto recalls. “I got in the ring with a guy I didn’t know named DeShawn Johnson. I thought it would be an easy fight. He knocked me down twice in the first round and won a decision. I wanted to fight him again so bad. And a month later, he got jumped in a club. Some guys stomped him and shot him and he died.”

Berto turned pro in December 2004 and was regarded as a super-star in the making. At the close of 2010, he was 27-and-0 with 22 knockouts and the WBC welterweight champion.

“My spirit is to try to be dominant,” Andre told the media. “I want to be a superstar. I want to bring it back to the days when Mike Tyson would fight on television, and everybody got off work early so they wouldn’t miss it.”

But in recent years, Berto has regressed as a fighter. Like many Al Haymon clients, he was maneuvered around tough challenges and failed to develop his full potential. Since 2010, Andre has lost four of seven fights, including a knockout defeat at the hands of Jesus Soto Karass.

“The welterweight division is among the deepest in boxing,” Chris Mannix wrote for SI.com after Berto was named as Mayweather’s opponent for September 12. “There are established stars, rising stars, and compelling young talents. So of course, Floyd Mayweather picked one of the least qualified of them all. On the list of recent Mayweather opponents, Berto ranks among the worst.”

The match-up was so unappealing that Showtime entered into negotiations with Team Mayweather with an eye toward moving the fight from pay-per-view to CBS. Sources say that the idea failed for a number of reasons. Mayweather was reluctant to give up his contractual guarantee, and CBS-Showtime financial models predicted that advertising revenue would be significantly less than the projected income from even a diminished number of PPV buys. There wasn’t enough time to market the event to potential advertisers. And given Mayweather’s history of domestic violence, many mainstream advertisers didn’t want to be associated with him.

The odds varied widely. But generally, Mayweather was a 20-to-1 favorite.

The announced fight night attendance was 13,395, well short of a sellout. That number included quite a few complimentary tickets in addition to tickets that were sold at a discount.

From the opening bell on, Berto seemed resigned to his fate. He was a challenger who didn’t challenge. There were two guys in the ring, but it wasn’t much of a fight.

Mayweather isn’t a big puncher. But as Oscar De La Hoya has noted, “Every fighter has a punch.” Floyd’s punches might not stun. But they sting and are hard enough to keep opponents from coming forward with abandon.

Berto looked tight in the opening rounds and befuddled for most of the night. He came forward in a straight line, made zero adjustments, threw few meaningful punches, and fought as though Mayweather’s body was off limits.

Indeed, Andre talked more aggressively during the fight than he fought in it. Mayweather, as one might expect, responded to the verbiage. In round ten, referee Kenny Bayless stopped the proceedings briefly and told the fighters to stop trash-talking.

That led Showtime analyst Al Bernstein to observe, “Let’s be honest. The most interesting thing about this fight has been the debate.”

Blow-by-blow commentator Mauro Ranallo added, “The conversation might be more interesting than what we’re seeing in the ring.”

Mayweather outlanded Berto by a 232-to-83 margin. This observer gave Andre one round. The judges scored it 120-108, 118-110, 117-111 for Mayweather.

Prior to the fight, Mayweather and his team said repeatedly that this would be his last fight. Afterward, Floyd proclaimed, “My career is over. It’s official. You got to know when to hang ‘em up. I’m leaving the sport with all of my faculties. I’ve accomplished everything. There’s nothing more to accomplish in the sport.”

If Mayweather really doesn’t fight again, he deserves credit for standing by his word and leaving at the top (as Lennox Lewis did a decade ago). Most observers, myself included, think that Floyd will fight again.

There have been times in the past when Mayweather’s word was suspect. Time will tell whether or not he’s telling the truth now.

Thomas Hauser can be reached by email at thauser@rcn.com. His most recent book (Thomas Hauser on Boxing) was published by the University of Arkansas Press.

Photo Credit: Idris Erba/Mayweather Promotions

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COMMENTS

-brownsugar :

The most miserable fightwriter in boxing, I stopped reading at "never fought a fighter in his prime". In an effort to use my free time more effectively, I wont even waste time explaining.


-Radam G :

The most miserable fightwriter in boxing, I stopped reading at "never fought a fighter in his prime". In an effort to use my free time more effectively, I wont even waste time explaining.
Wow! That was harsh. And the skillet calling the pot black. Maybe you should stop posting about "Pacquiao" because you are the most miserable Pinoy hater alive because of justice to you in the P-Islands. U.S. Navy legal records are easy to obtain. "I won't even waste time explaining." Holla! What a lot of sensitivity about the veracity of a violence dude to gals, dames, damsels and dolls. Lil Floyd ought to fight a healthy, prime pug on an "even playing field." And you can take up for him then. He has an arse whuppin' due. And he knows it! Just as violent-against-women OJ Simpson got himself put in jail for stealing his own syet, Money May is going to eventually fight again against the wrong pug and LOSE. And probably beat up a chick that night and go back to da slamma! Holla!


-Chris L :

With all due respect, I don't think that you can really call someone out for not donating $4,800,000; & then use the fact that you once donated $6,700 as justification. I'm sure that Mayweather does donate & by him not disclosing his methods of donation/how much he donates/how often, I think speaks more about who he really is than a bunch of witch-hunt writers offering their view.


-Domenic :

With all due respect, I don't think that you can really call someone out for not donating $4,800,000; & then use the fact that you once donated $6,700 as justification. I'm sure that Mayweather does donate & by him not disclosing his methods of donation/how much he donates/how often, I think speaks more about who he really is than a bunch of witch-hunt writers offering their view.
Agreed Chris. Floyd is under no obligation whatsoever to donate to anyone (just as every reader/writer here is under no obligation to do so). That's a voluntary, personal choice that's simply immaterial. Should he donate? Sure, why not. He'll probably feel good about himself after doing so too. I'm sure his team of accountants have advised that there's a worthwhile tax incentive to be had as well. But that's his money and his call to make. And, to Floyd's credit, he did pay for Genaro Hernandez' funeral, without fanfare, if I recall correctly. I thought that was a great gesture, always admired that. I like Hauser, always have, but he's definitely not the go-to guy for an unbiased Floyd analysis. I do agree that Ray Leonard is well above him on the all-time list though (Floyd might've beaten Leonard, but there's a Grand Canyon-esque chasm between their two careers and each's respective opposition and sensitivity to risk). As for the domestic abuse stuff, I don't delve much into that. We're not nominating a Supreme Court justice here. He paid his debt to society.


-amayseng :

When it comes down to Floyd the problem is that he didn't fight the highest caliber fighters at the times when they would have challenged him and in doing so brought out the best in him. Look at the floyd vs cotto fight, what a tough and offensively exceptional fight that floyd put on. Despite the 152 cw, which really would not have made a difference, Look at the Canelo fight where Floyd was in the pocket a lot and we got to see him shine. Instead of defending floyd all these years like they are making money off his easy wins, fans should have been demanding to see him step it up so they can see his true talents shine.


-vinnieq :

I stopped reading at "never fought a fighter in his prime"
Hauser actually said: "never fought an elite fighter in his prime" Cotto, maybe.. Mosley, no De La Hoya, no Pacquiao, no Canelo, no (catchweight, young)


-Radam G :

@Brownsugar Hauser actually said: "never fought an elite fighter in his prime" Cotto, maybe.. Mosley, no De La Hoya, no Pacquiao, no Canelo, no (catchweight, young)
A blind man can read better with his fingers than a full-of-hatred seeing man can with his eye vision. Hate produces imaginary syet and straight-up blacken out the actuality of the reality of what anybody says or posts. That syet happens all the time with the angry, arrogant _____ _____. Holla!


-vinnieq :

A blind man can't watch boxing though..


-teaser :

the frustrating thing about Floyd is that it like watching a formulae 1 car competing in nascar again and again ?win win win but what surprise is that ? ?he coulda and shoulda ran with the top of the pack and not left those holes in his resume


-vinnieq :

@teaser.. Ya, go race with the formula 1 cars! Quit picking on the Nascar guys..


-Kid Blast :

Hauser is the Mother of Haters when it comes to Floyd. He will never forgive him for not getting credentials for the Paq fight. Good God, talk about being a baby. Man up Hauser!!


-Kid Blast :

And to talk about his own financial contributions to charity is more than despicable. Anonymity is what a true giver practices. I wonder if Hauser went back to Flint with Floyd to pass out Turkeys on Thanksgiving. Financial windfall, eh? Perhaps a fee from HBO for consulting?


-Kid Blast :

With all due respect, I don't think that you can really call someone out for not donating $4,800,000; & then use the fact that you once donated $6,700 as justification. I'm sure that Mayweather does donate & by him not disclosing his methods of donation/how much he donates/how often, I think speaks more about who he really is than a bunch of witch-hunt writers offering their view.
Bingo


-stormcentre :

Hauser (and Lotierzo) are doing well with these agenda pieces. I think they still haven't got enough mileage out of Floyd's past indiscretions, sadly. And when I say sadly, I mean it for the authors. To have to continually resort to that when it has no relevance at all to the Mayweather V Berto fight . . . . . Well, it's kind of like ignoring how (leave what Arum and Roach said about PAcPEDs for now, and just focus on how) Pac screwed around behind his wife's (and family's) back; to tell us how brilliant it is that he fought Algieri and now maybe considering his SaltWater Jesus comback with Judah - of whom I am sure is an opponent that will receive the same kind of scrutiny as Berto has. Hauser, my opinion of your professionalism is really starting to be questioned. You're allowing yourself to be compromised and influenced. Your other piece on Floyd's IVgate was pretty good - not great - but even there you stepped over and/or looked the other way with a lot of facts, questions, and considerations. Almost as if you gave preference to making sure the both the timing and content of your piece had the most negative impact on Floyd. The good news is you don't need to do that here. As we already have a PacQueen resident witchdoctor that's been feeding us magic potions, lies, fantasy, and fiction about many things including Pac and Floyd (and failing to answer any questions about them, even those he claims he will), for - at least - 3 years now. See . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79438&viewfull=1#post79438 :) :) :)


-stormcentre :

Hauser (and Lotierzo) are doing well with these agenda pieces. I think they still haven't got enough mileage out of Floyd's past indiscretions, sadly. And when I say sadly, I mean it for the authors. To have to continually resort to that when it has no relevance at all to the Mayweather V Berto fight . . . . . Well, it's kind of like ignoring how (leave what Arum and Roach said about PAcPEDs for now, and just focus on how) Pac screwed around behind his wife's (and family's) back; to tell us how brilliant it is that he fought Algieri and now maybe considering his SaltWater Jesus comback with Judah - of whom I am sure is an opponent that will receive the same kind of scrutiny as Berto has. Hauser, my opinion of your professionalism is really starting to be questioned. You're allowing yourself to be compromised and influenced. Your other piece on Floyd's IVgate was pretty good - not great - but even there you stepped over and/or looked the other way with a lot of facts, questions, and considerations. Almost as if you gave preference to making sure the both the timing and content of your piece had the most negative impact on Floyd. The good news is you don't need to do that here. As we already have a PacQueen resident witchdoctor that's been feeding us magic potions, lies, fantasy, and fiction about many things including Pac and Floyd (and failing to answer any questions about them, even those he claims he will), for - at least - 3 years now. See . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79438&viewfull=1#post79438 Finally, it must be said that you wrote a below par article. Much less than what you are normally - prior to when Floyd locked you out of the MayPac presser that is - are capable of. Please feel free to check my comments in your other FloydAgenda piece, and ask for pointers and assistance with what you both overlooked, and how to get back to the standard you're usually capable of. [email]stormcentre@outlook.com[/email]
Storm :) :) :)


-brownsugar :

Hauser (and Lotierzo) are doing well with these agenda pieces. I think they still haven't got enough mileage out of Floyd's past indiscretions, sadly. And when I say sadly, I mean it for the authors. To have to continually resort to that when it has no relevance at all to the Mayweather V Berto fight . . . . . Well, it's kind of like ignoring how (leave what Arum and Roach said about PAcPEDs for now, and just focus on how) Pac screwed around behind his wife's (and family's) back; to tell us how brilliant it is that he fought Algieri and now maybe considering his SaltWater Jesus comback with Judah - of whom I am sure is an opponent that will receive the same kind of scrutiny as Berto has. Hauser, my opinion of your professionalism is really starting to be questioned. You're allowing yourself to be compromised and influenced. Your other piece on Floyd's IVgate was pretty good - not great - but even there you stepped over and/or looked the other way with a lot of facts, questions, and considerations. Almost as if you gave preference to making sure the both the timing and content of your piece had the most negative impact on Floyd. The good news is you don't need to do that here. As we already have a PacQueen resident witchdoctor that's been feeding us magic potions, lies, fantasy, and fiction about many things including Pac and Floyd (and failing to answer any questions about them, even those he claims he will), for - at least - 3 years now. See . . . [URL]http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79438&viewfull=1#post79438[/URL] Finally, it must be said that you wrote a below par article. Much less than what you are normally - prior to when Floyd locked you out of the MayPac presser that is - are capable of. Please feel free to check my comments in your other FloydAgenda piece, and ask for pointers and assistance with what you both overlooked, and how to get back to the standard you're usually capable of. [EMAIL="stormcentre@outlook.com">stormcentre@outlook.com[/EMAIL]
Storm :) :) :)
there's nothing quite as valuble as constructive criticism!


-stormcentre :

Hauser (and Lotierzo) are doing well with these agenda pieces. I think they still haven't got enough mileage out of Floyd's past indiscretions, sadly. And when I say sadly, I mean it for the authors. Domestic violence - is a reference to this really necessary? To have to continually resort to that when it has no relevance at all to the Mayweather V Berto fight . . . . . Well, it's kind of like ignoring how (leave what Arum and Roach said about PAcPEDs for now, and just focus on how) Pac screwed around behind his wife's (and family's) back; to tell us how brilliant it is that he fought Algieri and now maybe considering his SaltWater Jesus comback with Judah - of whom I am sure is an opponent that will receive the same kind of scrutiny as Berto has. Hauser, my opinion of your professionalism is really starting to be questioned. You're lines about how Floyd should spend his money were almost as alarming and irrelevant - as you're claim about your own benevolence was incomparable, irrelevant, and an insight into what your agenda really is. You're allowing yourself to be compromised and influenced by your dislike for Floyd, and interest in Pacquaio. Your other piece on Floyd's IVgate was pretty good - not great - but even there you stepped over and/or looked the other way with a lot of facts, questions, and considerations. Almost as if you gave preference to making sure the both the timing and content of your piece had the most negative impact on Floyd. The good news is you don't need to do that here. As we already have a PacQueen resident witchdoctor that's been feeding us magic potions, lies, fantasy, and fiction about many things including Pac and Floyd (and failing to answer any questions about them, even those he claims he will), for - at least - 3 years now. See . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79438&viewfull=1#post79438 Finally, it must be said that you wrote a below par article. Much less than what you are normally - prior to when Floyd locked you out of the MayPac presser that is - are capable of. Please feel free to check my comments in your other FloydAgenda piece, and ask for pointers and assistance with what you both overlooked, and how to get back to the standard you're usually capable of. [email]stormcentre@outlook.com[/email]
Storm :) :) :)


-brownsugar :

With all due respect, I don't think that you can really call someone out for not donating $4,800,000; & then use the fact that you once donated $6,700 as justification. I'm sure that Mayweather does donate & by him not disclosing his methods of donation/how much he donates/how often, I think speaks more about who he really is than a bunch of witch-hunt writers offering their view.
very well said Chris L


-stormcentre :

Yes, Hauser skipped right over all the other beneficial stuff and giving that Floyd does. Must admit, never thought I'd see this stuff - that's so obviously agenda driven - make it so easily to the publishing room here. This stuff is poor writing at its worst from writers that can, and do, actually deliver a better product. Chris; if it's not already obvious from my above lines within my post #16 . . . . ""Hauser, my opinion of your professionalism is really starting to be questioned. You're lines about how Floyd should spend his money were almost as alarming and irrelevant - as you're claim about your own benevolence was incomparable, irrelevant, and an insight into what your agenda really is"." I agree. Of course you can't justify (overlooking all someone does for charity, and then) calling the same person out for not donating $4,800,000 that they use to buy a car that they deserve; on the flawed basis that they once donated $6,700. Yep, Floyd should educate all LV residents to clear what Hauser believes are his debts to him and society. Sounds, to me like Hauser is looking for a free education. I appreciate he may have a law degree, but some of the principles of law and prosecution rest upon; remaining openminded, being fair, not ignoring facts, evenhandedness, remaining objective, being consistent, and not letting your own agenda rule your actions. Where are these traits in Hauser's work now? :) :) :)


-Radam G :

A blind man can't watch boxing though..
It depends on exactly how blind that they are. Legally blinded men have fought for and won world titles and defended them for a long stretch. I will let somebody else also in da know name the most popularly ones. I get tired of pi$$ing off and warring with trolls, haters and posers with da actuality of da reality of da real real. Danggit! They have an agenda of stripping this Universe of da flash know know! And to make ev'ybodeee and dey momma da slow slow and the bullsyet about-boksing-knowledge super low. Holla!


-Kid Blast :

Yes, Hauser skipped right over all the other beneficial stuff and giving that Floyd does. Must admit, never thought I'd see this stuff - that's so obviously agenda driven - make it so easily to the publishing room here. This stuff is poor writing at its worst from writers that can, and do, actually deliver a better product. Chris; if it's not already obvious from my above lines within my post #16 . . . . ""Hauser, my opinion of your professionalism is really starting to be questioned. You're lines about how Floyd should spend his money were almost as alarming and irrelevant - as you're claim about your own benevolence was incomparable, irrelevant, and an insight into what your agenda really is"." I agree. Of course you can't justify (overlooking all someone does for charity, and then) calling the same person out for not donating $4,800,000 that they use to buy a car that they deserve; on the flawed basis that they once donated $6,700. Yep, Floyd should educate all LV residents to clear what Hauser believes are his debts to him and society. Sounds, to me like Hauser is looking for a free education. I appreciate he may have a law degree, but some of the principles of law and prosecution rest upon; remaining openminded, being fair, not ignoring facts, evenhandedness, remaining objective, being consistent, and not letting your own agenda rule your actions. Where are these traits in Hauser's work now? :) :) :)

I have been on to Hauser for some time. Like a badly fading boxer, he no longer has it. He is shop worn and just plain shot. Time to retire.


-stormcentre :

It depends on exactly how blind that they are. Legally blinded men have fought for and won world titles and defended them for a long stretch. I will let somebody else also in da know name the most popularly ones. I get tired of pi$$ing off and warring with trolls, haters and posers with da actuality of da reality of da real real. Danggit! They have an agenda of stripping this Universe of da flash know know! And to make ev'ybodeee and dey momma da slow slow and the bullsyet about-boksing-knowledge super low. Holla!
PacQueening at large here.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79438&viewfull=1#post79438 Check "A brief history of TSS's forum's "uncontrolled PacQueenLossExcuseMovement" and its special breed of "neo-NostRADAMazz like Nazi tribalism". Here in this thread . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond


-Art :

I respect Mr Hausser and I can't wait for his follow up article to the IV issue!! Thank you sir!!


-deepwater2 :

I respect Mr Hausser and I can't wait for his follow up article to the IV issue!! Thank you sir!!
Mr Hausser's body of work speaks for itself. The gentleman is an award winning author. Hausser has shined some light on the dark side of boxing. The sweetscience is lucky to have him here and I appreciate him. As far as Hausser having his feelings hurt over denied a press credential , people are missing the bigger picture. That Mayweather is/was trying to control what journalists write and if you don't go along with the propoganda ,then you are banned from participation. Facts are facts. Hauser has not been proven wrong. Hopefully the USADA cleans up its act since the facts are known now. The sweetscience is a nice website but it has lost its luster and the traffic is way down. I have a feeling it can rise up again. We have a great few months of boxing ahead of us.


-Radam G :

Mr Hausser's body of work speaks for itself. The gentleman is an award winning author. Hausser has shined some light on the dark side of boxing. The sweetscience is lucky to have him here and I appreciate him. As far as Hausser having his feelings hurt over denied a press credential , people are missing the bigger picture. That Mayweather is/was trying to control what journalists write and if you don't go along with the propoganda ,then you are banned from participation. Facts are facts. Hauser has not been proven wrong. Hopefully the USADA cleans up its act since the facts are known now. The sweetscience is a nice website but it has lost its luster and the traffic is way down. I have a feeling it can rise up again. We have a great few months of boxing ahead of us.
The Mayweather-tsAH controlled USADA will be out of boksing in flash. The WBC has already signed a contract for VADA to do all of its title scraps. Greedy-arse, over-charging, working-for-cheats USADA is taking a bad beating for lying on the corrupted NSAC. The NSAC has clearly said that USADA is full of syet and have lost a lot of credibility for straight-up giving Lil Floyd a TUE and then keeping it a secret for almost a month. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Hauser is typically an excellent writer. However, it's obvious he is compromised here, due to - not only how his nose is out of joint with how he was locked out of MayPac - but also all the above points
Storm (and others) has made in conjunction with those within the other thread where Tom details Floyd's IV issues; but overlooks some relevant facts/considerations, that just happen to ensure the piece has a greater negative impact on Floyd as he winds up his career and last fight. These are cheap shots, and I can only imagine how dirty all the Queens frilly panties would be (and all the stains that they would have left around their ankles) if Tom had fired up on Pacquiao's wife/PED cheating ways. Still, it seems, that Tom covets a position in Pac's entourage that is, perhaps, as high as NostRADAMass claims his is, in there. :) One *tell tale sign when someone is selectively using information and/or ignoring what does not suit to ensure an agenda piece they are paid to write has greater negative impact on their intended target, is when they overlook relevant facts and issues - despite how not doing so would ensure evenhandedness and objectivity prevailed - to make a greater point with those they are focussed on sullying. Unfortunately Tom has done this a bit in his recent articles. That said, and as expected, this above-mentioned *technique will not cause concern for those whom are not professional writers, but nevertheless consistently subscribe to the same and/or similar techniques; in a manner where they are consistently and simply unable to explain and/or look at the entire picture - almost as if they would prefer to not know all the detail as then it is harder to justify PacQueening and FloydHating. An *example of this (amongst the hundreds) is how PacQueens, FloydHaters, and the like often jump on the material (that suits) related to the IV matter, whilst (hypocritically at the same time also) refusing to acknowledge other considerations in relation to that and also the suggestion for CIR testing for both Floyd and Pac. Other examples of this and/or that which is overlooked, are shown here;
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87731&viewfull=1#post87731
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87555&viewfull=1#post87555
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87564&viewfull=1#post87564 (Arum and Roach - after Roach talks absolute rubbish about MayPac - and after PacRoachArum fail to disclose Pac's alleged shoulder injury that salt water healed - effectively admit Pac was on the PEDs;
3 minute and 50 second point).

Sure we know how/why it happens in the forum; but whoa, how did that white elephant (of Arum and Roach effectively admitting that Pac was on the PEDs) get skipped over by Tom? To such an extent that - as he dialled up the heat on a PED article related to Floyd, Pac, and MayPac, absolutely no relationship at all was drawn between; it, PEDs, the pre-MayPac PED testing phase and it's impact on Pac, and Pac's MayPac performance - even if you discount how much better Berto's was when in with Floyd? Must be the same reason why Tom's initial article about IVgate also smoothed/skipped over some of the real reasons why Pac was refused a shot of Toradol too? Tom forgot to mention that Pac committed fraud with the NSAC and in other ways, and is being sued for that, and that these may have some relevance to why the NSAC refused Pac an "injection" for an injury that his own signed documents said he didn't need. There's those inconvenient facts again! I have seen Hauser be far more objective, consistent, evenhanded, and less agenda driven in previous pieces than this. And, I have seen him rely far less on the above-mentioned questionable and sometimes juvenile techniques, that are really the mainstay of forum PacQueens and other tribal activity. Speaking of such . . . . The history behind how/why this - ""look the other way if it is the truth, facts, or considerations that I don't like and/or anything that exposes how questionable/infantile some cheerleading has been"" - *technique is popular within the forum, is detailed here.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&viewfull=1#post87807
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79438&viewfull=1#post79438 Any attempt to have a relevant discussion about the boxing and/or PED claims, the mass failures to explain, and any other related issue related to Floyd and Pacquaio will never be served by subjective and selective interpretation and/or running from the facts. Hauser - a paid writer - can and should do better work than this. Others subscribing to the above *techniques probably can't; as history, lonely rewards to look at all the facts/considerations, lonely offers to review fight videos, a myriad of loose/unsubstantiated claims, and (just) the above (few) links substantiate.
Personally, I would welcome a fair, accurate, objective, open-minded, and evenhanded enquiry and report into the entire PED and any other issue (including the 122 clinches and NSAC fraud) related to Pac and Mayweather. But sadly, at the moment, it seems that all that is popular is even less than half that equation. Which is nothing more than, an unfair, not always accurate, subjective, closed-minded, and un-evenhanded enquiry and report into some of the entire PED and any other issues (not including the 122 clinches and NSAC fraud) related to - not Pac and Mayweather - but only Mayweather Oh, almost forgot to add - to that last sentence - the significance (insignificance?) of the frequent peppering and references of Floyd's domestic battery history (just to set the tone of an article) whilst overlooking Pac's lesser but still relevant (if Floyd's personal history is relevant) actions of cheating behind his wife's back and of course as a SaltWater Jesus loving Christian. Given all that is already overlooked about PEDs and Pac, you would think that - as Floyd's relationship indiscretions that he has paid the price and done the time for are brought up during his final few fights - at least discussing Pac's personal relationship life and how unfaithful, wrong, and un-Christian-like it is, would feature. No double standards there eh? Don't let the all those facts, considerations, and truths get in the way of a good story, vendetta, and hate session though will we? :) :) Love it and all its "consistency" !!!!


-Brad :

Mr Hausser's body of work speaks for itself. The gentleman is an award winning author. Hausser has shined some light on the dark side of boxing. The sweetscience is lucky to have him here and I appreciate him. As far as Hausser having his feelings hurt over denied a press credential , people are missing the bigger picture. That Mayweather is/was trying to control what journalists write and if you don't go along with the propoganda ,then you are banned from participation. Facts are facts. Hauser has not been proven wrong. Hopefully the USADA cleans up its act since the facts are known now. The sweetscience is a nice website but it has lost its luster and the traffic is way down. I have a feeling it can rise up again. We have a great few months of boxing ahead of us.
One way for the "luster" to return to this website is if a couple people, who shall remain nameless, stopped high-jacking every thread with long-winded posts. Long lame rants that just make you not want to participate in the conversation.


-teaser :

throwing away money ? now here's someone Floyd could take example from ?..P.K. Subban making $10 million donation in Montreal to the children's hospital ..
->http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/p-k-subban-10-million-donation-montreal-childrens-hospital-canadiens-elise-jean-beliveau/


-teaser :

a lot of turkeys don't you think ?


-Froggy :

The Mayweather-tsAH controlled USADA will be out of boksing in flash. The WBC has already signed a contract for VADA to do all of its title scraps. Greedy-arse, over-charging, working-for-cheats USADA is taking a bad beating for lying on the corrupted NSAC. The NSAC has clearly said that USADA is full of syet and have lost a lot of credibility for straight-up giving Lil Floyd a TUE and then keeping it a secret for almost a month. Holla!
Great news, hopefully all other sanctioning bodies follow the WBC's lead !


-The Shadow :

The most miserable fightwriter in boxing, I stopped reading at "never fought a fighter in his prime". In an effort to use my free time more effectively, I wont even waste time explaining.
Me too, brother. Epic waste of time. POST SCRIPTUM: Counting another man's money is some sucker sh*t. Especially when said man donates millions to charity. POST POST SCRIPTUM:
->http://tfmjf.org/
->http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/52/floyd-mayweather-shows-generous-side-genaro-hernandez-family-boxing


-deepwater2 :

God bless any person that can donate time or money to the needy. It was nice to see Mr Arum and Lil Floyd come together and take care of Gennero's medical bills and funeral expenses. I hope Floyd's charity continues to grow and hands out more funds. It's easy to pick on Floyd Joy,when he says things like: ?Everybody?s always talking about giving, giving, giving. That?s the problem. Everybody?s doing so much giving, at the end of the day, they may not have nothing. Then they?ll say ?why was he giving this to that person, and giving this to that person when he should have been saving??? ?I never got involved in the sport of boxing to say ?I?m going to fight and make hundreds of millions of dollars and just give it all away.? If I?m gonna mess money off in a bad way, I?m going to spend it on myself. I?m going to do what I want to do with my money. You hear people talking about, ?well, he should?donate to this or donate to that.? No, I should donate to Floyd Mayweather, donate to Floyd Mayweather?s family. Because that?s what it?s about.? ?[People] say ?well, he got all this money, why is he not giving to Africa??? starts Mayweather. ?Well, what has Africa given to us? What has Africa came and gave to my children and to my family? Things work two ways.? But actions speak louder than words. His charity did give out some good money: From the nonprofit quarterly : The fact that he tosses charitable donations into the mix of his money fascination raises the issue of what he actually gives to charity. The Root wondered about Mayweather's charitable generosity too, and looked into the finances of the Floyd Mayweather Jr. Foundation (FMJF), which has programs on education, youth boxing, girls, women, and community outreach. The Root's conclusion after examining the foundation's 990s (no one at the foundation would respond to the Root's questions): "What's revealed there makes one ask if Mayweather is punching below his weight philanthropically or just not shining a light on all his charitable activities." In 2009, the foundation distributed all of $3,564 in donations. The foundation's 2008 990 showed expenditures of "$573,790, or 62.5 percent, [that] went to undisclosed 'professional fees and other payments to independent contractors'; $284,653...to other expenses; $55,650 to pay three employees; and the rest to smaller expenses. The 'other expenses' included $100,000 for...[a] two-day, Mayweather-sponsored Superfest fundraiser; $58,494 for the FMJF dinner; and $10,000 for Thanksgiving turkeys. Keep up the good deeds Floyd


-Froggy :

throwing away money ? now here's someone Floyd could take example from ?..P.K. Subban making $10 million donation in Montreal to the children's hospital ..
->http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/p-k-subban-10-million-donation-montreal-childrens-hospital-canadiens-elise-jean-beliveau/
Now that is an athlete who appreciates what he has and gives back, good for him !


-Radam G :

Money May is a paradox. And he jives and connives and gives. And make sure that his public relations peeps get the story out to the world. And he will make sure that he gets a good tax break on it. A lot of the late, great pugs didn't do that even when smart people around them tried to get them to roll that way. These pugs gave out charity and dough from the hearts. But Money May does it because he is getting-a-tax-break smart. Much luv to him. No hate! Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey, Smokin' Joe Frazier and the still-alive GOAT Ali, Iron Mike, and Hawk Time Pryor gave poor people homes and money. They even brought tombstones and gravemarkers for out-of-money pubs and strangers. TSS scribes can research and write about the kindness of what some pugs did to a whole cemetery where poor people buried their love ones but could not afford gravemarkers or tombstones. Holla!


-stormcentre :

One way for the "luster" to return to this website is if a couple people, who shall remain nameless, stopped high-jacking every thread with long-winded posts. Long lame rants that just make you not want to participate in the conversation.
I know the truth and long posts (about material that is not popular but not only challenges the mind/principles - but also exposes how little reading sometimes takes place before publishing a post) is hard and unsavoury for some; whether or not the rampant lies that these "long" posts respond to and highlight is their food of choice and is why it brings no complaints. So, if the fact that I deliberately leave lots of spaces in between sentences and sometimes number them is not enough; then just push the ignore button on me Brad. I promise it wont bother me. Thanks for your excellent contributions by the way. :)
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87912&viewfull=1#post87912


-stormcentre :

Now that is an athlete who appreciates what he has and gives back, good for him !
Froggy, Floyd actually gives back quite a lot. Are you aware of all he does? :)


-amayseng :

One way for the "luster" to return to this website is if a couple people, who shall remain nameless, stopped high-jacking every thread with long-winded posts. Long lame rants that just make you not want to participate in the conversation.
While attempting to bully grown men using name calling within their 700 paragraphs? Ya I blocked those guys.


-stormcentre :

While attempting to
bully* grown men using name calling within their 700 paragraphs?
Ya I blocked those guys.
Ah-ah. Remember - I have already caught you out lying about this. Several times. Just as we have with many other PacQueen claims. Anyway, there's a short post for you to pretend you ignore. And, just to show the Storm is a fair StormCentre I have not provided links to all your (*hypocritical?) bullying and threatening posts - remember the ones "he wouldn't want to stand in front of me" during that time when the Queens and Bullies all attacked; 10/15 to 1 – on the flawed and thoroughly misinterpreted basis that it was me that unreasonably expected D2 to prove that Whitaker was more skilled than Floyd? When in actual fact D2 himself offered to do it, and then – arguably – didn’t follow through; leaving me to do it; a matter that was fairly comprehensively resolved and/or proved before the relevant thread I created to do so was even complete. Ah, how wonderful it is to lie and pretend with impunity; particularly when it seems to justify hypocritical acts of bullying. OK, now with all that said, I accept your apology for Queening, although I admit that some references in here you are responsible for.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&viewfull=1#post87807 Love it!!! Thanks for chiming in, posting, and providing me with further proof of my above-linked and other substantiated claims related to "uncontrolled PacQueenLossExcuseMovement" and its special breed of "neo-NostRADAMazz like Nazi tribalism"; or better put hypocritical lies. If you (or anyone) disagrees with that claim (“hypocritical lies”) please ask for proof; Storm will be happy to substantiate; as he doesn’t run or Queen around. Still love the laughs you provide though; keep it up please.
Storm. :) :)


-stormcentre :

While attempting to
bully* grown men using name calling within their 700 paragraphs?
Ya I blocked those guys.
Ah-ah. Remember - I have already caught you out lying about this. Several times. Just as we have with many other PacQueen claims. Anyway, here's a short post for you to pretend you ignore. And, just to show the
Storm is a fair
StormCentre I have not provided links to all your (*hypocritical?) bullying and threatening posts - remember the ones . . . ""He wouldn't want to stand in front of me"" . . .During that time when the Queens and Bullies all, without thinking/checking, attacked (due in no small part to your tribal and bullying conduct) at a ratio of ~10/15 to 1; on the obviously flawed and thoroughly misinterpreted basis that it was
Storm that unreasonably expected D2 to prove that Whitaker was more skilled than Floyd? Brad (and you may have "accidentally" forgot that Brad) was also instrumental in this act of infantile tribal warfare; that Storm not only dealt with - but also defeated (with the truth) - singlehandedly. Just a little history lesson for the Queens. It may explain yours and others posts. Happy to provide links if you have "forgot" and doubt the authenticity of my claims in relation to both yours and other's . . bullying, tribal, and juvenile actions; that all stand as testament to how many Queens jump in and kick without thinking/reading - before then - once exposed and in receipt of questions - running and stinking the joint out with the kind of claims such as those from you which have already been proven to be highly, highly, questionable. Now, back to the above-mentioned matter ""During that time when the Queens and Bullies all, without thinking/checking, attacked . . . . . "" . . no doubt you have "forgot" that that matter actually had its origins in the actual fact that D2 himself offered to prove that Whitaker was more skilled than Floyd, but then didn’t follow through; leaving
Storm to do it - a matter that was fairly comprehensively resolved and/or proved before the relevant thread
Storm created to do so was even completed. Geez,
Amayseng with all these "accidental" oversights and hypocrisy examples (not like you at all :) ) . . . . you might need to go and see our resident witchdoctor for a brain feed check, and memory potion. You sure your feeling alright - as you rush to Queen? Ah, how wonderful it is to lie and pretend with impunity; particularly when it seems to justify hypocritical acts of bullying. OK, now with all that said, I accept your apology for Queening and pretending, although I admit that some references in here you are responsible for.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&viewfull=1#post87807 Love it!!! Thanks for chiming in, posting, and providing me with further proof of my above-linked and other substantiated claims related to "uncontrolled PacQueenLossExcuseMovement" and its special breed of "neo-NostRADAMazz like Nazi tribalism"; or better put hypocritical lies. If you (or anyone) disagrees with that claim (“hypocritical lies”) please ask for proof; Storm will be happy to substantiate; as he doesn’t run or Queen around. Still love the laughs you provide though; keep it up please.
Storm. :) :)


-stormcentre :

While attempting to
bully* grown men using name calling within their 700 paragraphs?
Ya I blocked those guys.
Ah-ah. Naughty naughty. Amayseng, there's that hard (for you) to resist need to tell a porky pie again . . . and you were doing so well and showing promise beforehand too. Remember - I have already caught you out lying about this; pretending to block and using that as a means to bully and/or motivate others to do it. Several times. Some spectacularly - such as when I (hilariously) caught you deleting responses to my posts that you claimed were "ignored". It's not just the above examples either; as we have caught you out telling little fibs (for various reasons) with many other PacQueen claims too. (Secret PacQueen note; lets, for now, because the
Storm is a fair
Storm, leave out how you cry/run, and "PacQueen" to administers {but not before you have thoroughly tried to bully them with said actions, tribal antics, and wild claims} and the like to get posters banned that don't give into and highlight your below actions. Brave and noble stuff indeed). Anyway, here's a short post for you to pretend you ignore. Sorry, no time to number sentences for you and Brad. Anyway, just to show the
Storm is a fair
StormCentre I have (also; in addition to the leniency shown above) not provided links to all your (*hypocritical?) bullying and threatening posts either. Remember the ones . . . ""He [
Storm] wouldn't want to stand in front of me"" . . .During that time when the Queens and Bullies all, without thinking/checking, attacked (due in no small part to your tribal and bullying conduct) at a ratio of ~10/15 to 1; on the obviously flawed and thoroughly misinterpreted basis that it was
Storm that unreasonably expected D2 to prove that Whitaker was more skilled than Floyd? Brad (and you may have "accidentally" forgot that Brad) was also instrumental in this act of infantile tribal warfare; that Storm not only dealt with - but also defeated (with the truth) - singlehandedly. Just a little history lesson for the Queens. It may explain yours and others posts. Happy to provide links if you have "forgot" and doubt the authenticity of my claims in relation to both yours and other's . . bullying, tribal, and juvenile actions; that all stand as testament to how many Queens jump in and kick without thinking/reading - before then - once exposed and in receipt of questions - running and stinking the joint out with the kind of claims such as those from you which have already been proven to be highly, highly, questionable. Now, back to the above-mentioned matter ""During that time when the Queens and Bullies all, without thinking/checking, attacked . . . . . "" . . no doubt you have "forgot" that that matter actually had its origins in the actual fact that D2 himself offered to prove that Whitaker was more skilled than Floyd, but then didn’t follow through; leaving
Storm to do it - a matter that was fairly comprehensively resolved and/or proved before the relevant thread
Storm created to do so was even completed. Geez,
Amayseng with all these "accidental" oversights and hypocrisy examples (not like you at all :) ) . . . . you might need to go and see our resident witchdoctor for a brain feed check, and memory potion. You sure your feeling alright - as you rush to Queen? Ah, how wonderful it is to lie and pretend with impunity; particularly when it seems to justify hypocritical acts of bullying. OK, now with all that said, I accept your apology for Queening and pretending, although I admit that some references in here you are responsible for.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&viewfull=1#post87807 Love it!!! Thanks for chiming in, posting, and providing me with further proof of my above-linked and other substantiated claims related to "uncontrolled PacQueenLossExcuseMovement" and its special breed of "neo-NostRADAMazz like Nazi tribalism"; or better put hypocritical lies. If you (or anyone) disagrees with that claim (“hypocritical lies”) please ask for proof; Storm will be happy to substantiate; as he doesn’t run or Queen around. Still love the laughs you provide though; keep it up please.
Storm. :) :)


-stormcentre :

While attempting to
bully* grown men using name calling within their 700 paragraphs?
Ya I blocked those guys.
Ah-ah. Naughty naughty. Amayseng, there's that hard (for you) to resist need to tell a porky pie again . . . and you were doing so well and showing promise beforehand too. Remember - I have already caught you out lying about this; pretending to block and using that as a means to bully and/or motivate others to do it. Several times. Some spectacularly - such as when I (hilariously) caught you deleting responses to my posts that you claimed were "ignored". It's not just the above examples either; as we have caught you out telling little fibs (for various reasons) with many other PacQueen claims too. (Secret PacQueen note; lets, for now, because the
Storm is a fair
Storm, leave out how you cry/run, and "PacQueen" to administers {but not before you have thoroughly tried to bully them with said actions, tribal antics, and wild claims} and the like to get posters banned that don't give into and highlight your below actions. Brave and noble stuff indeed). Anyway, here's a short post for you to pretend you ignore. Sorry, no time to number sentences for you and Brad. Anyway, just to show the
Storm is a fair
StormCentre I have (also; in addition to the leniency shown above) not provided links to all your (*hypocritical?) bullying and threatening posts either. Remember the ones . . . ""He [
Storm] wouldn't want to stand in front of me"" . . .During that time when the Queens and Bullies all, without thinking/checking, attacked (due in no small part to your tribal and bullying conduct) at a ratio of ~10/15 to 1; on the obviously flawed and thoroughly misinterpreted basis that it was
Storm that unreasonably expected D2 to prove that Whitaker was more skilled than Floyd? Brad (and you may have "accidentally" forgot that Brad) was also instrumental in this act of infantile tribal warfare; that Storm not only dealt with - but also defeated (with the truth) - singlehandedly. Just a little history lesson for the Queens. It may explain yours and others posts. Happy to provide links if you have "forgot" and doubt the authenticity of my claims in relation to both yours and other's . . bullying, tribal, and juvenile actions; that all stand as testament to how many Queens jump in and kick without thinking/reading - before then - once exposed and in receipt of questions - running and stinking the joint out with the kind of claims such as those from you which have already been proven to be highly, highly, questionable. Now, back to the above-mentioned matter ""During that time when the Queens and Bullies all, without thinking/checking, attacked . . . . . "" . . no doubt you have "forgot" that that matter actually had its origins in the actual fact that D2 himself offered to prove that Whitaker was more skilled than Floyd, but then didn’t follow through; leaving
Storm to do it - a matter that was fairly comprehensively resolved and/or proved before the relevant thread
Storm created to do so was even completed. Geez,
Amayseng with all these "accidental" oversights and hypocrisy examples (not like you at all :) ) . . . . you might need to go and see our resident witchdoctor for a brain feed check, and memory potion. You sure your feeling alright - as you rush to Queen? Ah, how wonderful it is to lie and pretend with impunity; particularly when it seems to justify hypocritical acts of bullying. OK, now with all that said, I accept your apology for Queening and pretending, although I admit that some references in here you are responsible for.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&viewfull=1#post87807 Love it!!! Thanks for chiming in, posting, and providing me with further proof of my above-linked and other substantiated claims related to "uncontrolled PacQueenLossExcuseMovement" and its special breed of "neo-NostRADAMazz like Nazi tribalism"; or better put hypocritical lies. If you (or anyone) disagrees with that claim (“hypocritical lies”) please ask for proof; Storm will be happy to substantiate; as he doesn’t run or Queen around. Still love the laughs you provide though; keep it up please. Challenge; try and tell the truth in this forum for a month - but if you can't and you get caught, please look in the mirror and stop blaming
Storm.
Storm. :) :)


-Kid Blast :

Me too, brother. Epic waste of time. POST SCRIPTUM: Counting another man's money is some sucker sh*t. Especially when said man donates millions to charity. POST POST SCRIPTUM:
->http://tfmjf.org/
->http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/52/floyd-mayweather-shows-generous-side-genaro-hernandez-family-boxing

Amen


-brownsugar :

Me too, brother. Epic waste of time. POST SCRIPTUM: Counting another man's money is some sucker sh*t. Especially when said man donates millions to charity. POST POST SCRIPTUM: [URL]http://tfmjf.org/[/URL] [URL]http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/52/floyd-mayweather-shows-generous-side-genaro-hernandez-family-boxing[/URL]
agreed Shadow, he also quietly contributed money to pay for Joe Frazier's funeral, when a writer labels an article to be about his Floyd vs Berto impressions and then sandwiches in the hate mail, you have to wonder why he even mentioned the fight in the first place if he wanted to write about totally unrelated subjects. If you get the time shoot me a PM, I'd like to know what type of interesting stuff you've been up to. The TSS forum has become somewhat of a ghost town lately, as you can see. Are you still on the Commish's show?


-stormcentre :

Me too, brother. Epic waste of time. POST SCRIPTUM:
Counting another man's money is some sucker sh*t. Especially when said man donates millions to charity. POST POST SCRIPTUM:
->http://tfmjf.org/
->http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/52/floyd-mayweather-shows-generous-side-genaro-hernandez-family-boxing
Agree. Hey man - how's things?


-stormcentre :

Me too, brother. Epic waste of time. POST SCRIPTUM:
Counting another man's money is some sucker sh*t. Especially when said man donates millions to charity. POST POST SCRIPTUM:
->http://tfmjf.org/
->http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/52/floyd-mayweather-shows-generous-side-genaro-hernandez-family-boxing
Agree. Hey man - how's things? @ BS; yep use my PacQueen/Donkey lines/terms for your poems - as you ask in the other thread/post. :) :)


-Radam G :

agreed Shadow, he also quietly contributed money to pay for Joe Frazier's funeral, when a writer labels an article to be about his Floyd vs Berto impressions and then sandwiches in the hate mail, you have to wonder why he even mentioned the fight in the first place if he wanted to write about totally unrelated subjects. If you get the time shoot me a PM, I'd like to know what type of interesting stuff you've been up to. The TSS forum has become somewhat of a ghost town lately, as you can see. Are you still on the Commish's show?
Now you are making up syet about Lil Floyd's good side. Do you have proof that Lil Floyd "quietly contributed money to pay for Joe Frazier's funeral?" "NO!" Or you would've put the proof here. (You are that kind of person -- thin skinned and showy.) "$mokin'" Joe Frazier's estate is not/was not poor. Despite all the sorry lies about the Frazier Fam not getting along, his daughter "Sista Smoke" -- a legal court judge -- manages da fam multi-million-dollar estate. Beside, have you ever heard of life "insurance policies?" SJF had tons of them paid off. Just on the insurance policies along, there was enough money to give SJF a big funeral and burial. And leave some dough for his 24-plus kids. Something has happened to you, dude. You now have such an unhealthy obsession with Lil Floyd that you are making up uber syet about him and hoping that you won't get challenged. The only reason that I'm calling you out was that I was alerted to your straight-up lie by some Fraizerites. Prove me wrong and I will apologize to you, gramps. But don't sh*t on da Frazier Fam to impress somebody about the good side of Money May. We know that he is a paradox. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

Come out of the shadows shadow. Did you ever have the boxing match or win the championship you wanted?


-deepwater2 :

Criticizing Hauser and describing his investigation as hateful is really sad. You guys can do better. The sweet science is lucky to have Hauser. His investigation will shed some light on the dark practices and boxing will be better off for it. USADA seems corrupt or at least incompetent. Floyd says he wants to clean up the sport. He should start with his gym. One of the dirtiest gyms around. It looks like boxing fans should be suspicious about Floyd's actions regarding low T ratios and 750 ml Saline drips. Mickey Bay broke all steroid records and his trainer is and was always Big Floyd. As far as the testing goes Vada seems like it does all the proper testing at a reasonable price. Hopefully boxing follows the WBC and uses VADA and dumps USADA. Test all boxers using VADA.


-brownsugar :

Hauser is sad .....seriously... pandering to the Floyd Haters with bias articles should be beneath a writer of his ilk. I would expect his most recent story to come from a reader at the TSS, not a professional.


-deepwater2 :

Hauser is sad .....seriously... pandering to the Floyd Haters with bias articles should be beneath a writer of his ilk. I would expect his most recent story to come from a reader at the TSS, not a professional.
Don't shoot the messenger. What part of the USADA article do you disagree with?


-brownsugar :

For one Hauser doesn't mention that Floyd was tested right before and after the injection. Or that the NV Commision and USADA have signed off on it. Mayweather is not in any legal jeopardy. Secondly the WBC hasn't contested the finding and also Hauser waited right until it was close to the Berto fight to publish the story when the entire industry knew he was holding the story for months, but Hauser waited until Floyds next fight in an attempt to cause as much disruption as possible. As a result I have little sympathy for Hauser. A rule was broken and an exemption was given... there is no action being filed against Floyd.....l agree its not a good look and does raises other questions, but the whole issue is more of a molehill than a mountain. Floyd does wear a bullseye on his back so this won't be the last time he will come under attack.


-Radam G :

Don't shoot the messenger. What part of the USADA article do you disagree with?
It will be very interesting to hear that. But I expect most posing, posturing and pretending that Money May is being picked on because of diz, dat and third of make believe. Holla!


-Radam G :

For one Hauser doesn't mention that Floyd was tested right before and after the injection. Or that the NV Commision and USADA have signed off on it. Mayweather is not in any legal jeopardy. Secondly the WBC hasn't contested the finding and also Hauser waited right until it was close to the Berto fight to publish the story when the entire industry knew he was holding the story for months, but Hauser waited until Floyds next fight in an attempt to cause as much disruption as possible. As a result I have little sympathy for Hauser. A rule was broken and an exemption was given... there is no action being filed against Floyd.....l agree its not a good look and does raises other questions, but the whole issue is more of a molehill than a mountain. Floyd does wear a bullseye on his back so this won't be the last time he will come under attack.
Wow! Holla at the real real of the actuality of da reality.
->http://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopic.php?f=102&t=270996. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

For one Hauser doesn't mention that Floyd was tested right before and after the injection. Or that the NV Commision and USADA have signed off on it. Mayweather is not in any legal jeopardy. Secondly the WBC hasn't contested the finding and also Hauser waited right until it was close to the Berto fight to publish the story when the entire industry knew he was holding the story for months, but Hauser waited until Floyds next fight in an attempt to cause as much disruption as possible. As a result I have little sympathy for Hauser. A rule was broken and an exemption was given... there is no action being filed against Floyd.....l agree its not a good look and does raises other questions, but the whole issue is more of a molehill than a mountain. Floyd does wear a bullseye on his back so this won't be the last time he will come under attack.
Hauser did release the news right at the moment it would get the most attention. That is true. That is what journalist do to get the most bang for their buck. Other financial companies and even the gov do the opposite and release the news on a friday night so people enjoy their weekend and not put too much behind the bad news. Floyd might not get in trouble for breaking the rule and getting a TUE but USADA is certainly paying a price and being criticized across the board. I doubt this story will go away and it will grow and force some changes in the system, which is a good thing. AS of now I think only one boxer does Olympic style testing and that is Donaire. Floyd hasn't done Olympic style testing since the Olympics. There is enough evidence to put suspicion on Floyd but if he retires now it will only remain questions. I would hope the commission could go back and test every boxer's sample using the advanced test. Even if Floyd didn't break some rules to mask, he surly weighs in over the welter weight limit and could have fought GGG at Lt Middle. Boxing can adopt VADA and improve the sport for everyone.


-Radam G :

Criticizing Hauser and describing his investigation as hateful is really sad. You guys can do better. The sweet science is lucky to have Hauser. His investigation will shed some light on the dark practices and boxing will be better off for it. USADA seems corrupt or at least incompetent. Floyd says he wants to clean up the sport. He should start with his gym. One of the dirtiest gyms around. It looks like boxing fans should be suspicious about Floyd's actions regarding low T ratios and 750 ml Saline drips. Mickey Bay broke all steroid records and his trainer is and was always Big Floyd. As far as the testing goes Vada seems like it does all the proper testing at a reasonable price. Hopefully boxing follows the WBC and uses VADA and dumps USADA. Test all boxers using VADA.
And crooked doktors and public relations people normally fool the know nothings by claiming such-and-such pug had low T. Dud! Now you know why. That Montero video has straight-up ridiculed the long-winded bullsyet by a certain somebody about how dat syet works. Biting off a boxer, who was also a scientist, "It doesn't take rocket science..." USADA is on its way out of boksing. And so is Lil Floyd after another scrap or two. And if it is for his WBC belt, he will be crystal clean. And not by his own choice, but by VADA's. Holla!


-Radam G :

Hauser did release the news right at the moment it would get the most attention. That is true. That is what journalist do to get the most bang for their buck. Other financial companies and even the gov do the opposite and release the news on a friday night so people enjoy their weekend and not put too much behind the bad news. Floyd might not get in trouble for breaking the rule and getting a TUE but USADA is certainly paying a price and being criticized across the board. I doubt this story will go away and it will grow and force some changes in the system, which is a good thing. AS of now I think only one boxer does Olympic style testing and that is Donaire. Floyd hasn't done Olympic style testing since the Olympics. There is enough evidence to put suspicion on Floyd but if he retires now it will only remain questions. I would hope the commission could go back and test every boxer's sample using the advanced test. Even if Floyd didn't break some rules to mask, he surly weighs in over the welter weight limit and could have fought GGG at Lt Middle. Boxing can adopt VADA and improve the sport for everyone.
Exactly! True journalists release stuff to get the greatest "bang for their buck." These journalists have tough skin too. They can care less about Money May seeking vengeance and keeping them out of covering one of his boring scraps. He controls the fanboys, not da real real. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Criticizing Hauser and describing his investigation as hateful is really sad. You guys can do better. The sweet science is lucky to have Hauser. His investigation will shed some light on the dark practices and boxing will be better off for it. USADA seems corrupt or at least incompetent. Floyd says he wants to clean up the sport. He should start with his gym. One of the dirtiest gyms around. It looks like boxing fans should be suspicious about Floyd's actions regarding low T ratios and 750 ml Saline drips. Mickey Bay broke all steroid records and his trainer is and was always Big Floyd. As far as the testing goes Vada seems like it does all the proper testing at a reasonable price. Hopefully boxing follows the WBC and uses VADA and dumps USADA. Test all boxers using VADA.
D2, I think that in many of my previous posts that call into question some of Hauser's claims/work I have already - very clearly - pointed out; 1) The justifications for critiquing Hauser's recent work. 2) The oversights and concerns with his work. 3) That Hauser is a top writer, but on this issue - one he has already taken heat for in relation to (being shut out of MayPac, and) him having an agenda even before he wrote the IVgate article - his standard has slipped. 4) Shortfalls and questionability areas of his work, that most - including those whom dislike Floyd - are simply unwilling to consider and/or respond to; even with a financial reward offered. 5) Over the last 4 or 5 years; how much I think Hauser's work is (usually) very good. Therefore for all these above-mentioned reasons, plus the fact that Hauser gets paid to do what he does and how clearly personalised, unbalanced, and agenda driven his work is; I think the critique is fine and justified. Particularly whilst all the above points are ran from - more on that later. I would be happy to hear/see you respond to, attempt to debunk, and/or address any of the issues I have laid out with Hauser's work (links provided below for you) so you can meaningfully support your opening claim. But - sadly - to date, nothing has been forwarded from you on that front. And it's not like the requests and posts are not there and/or hard to find. However, it is like the hard questions and truth is - again - being ran from; as (or perhaps to make it easier with) yet more "sad" and/or unchecked claims/complaints are released. For instance some of these above-mentioned points, requests, and posts are actually within this very thread; but clearly from your post they may be getting looked over to release a point of view that would be more difficult to release and justify had they not been overlooked.
Some (previously released) issues with Hauser's work/claims, an address to your above PED claims, and also questions about issues associated with these/Hauser's claims that seem to be ran from, to consider;
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22608-Hauser-on-Mayweather-Berto&p=87889&viewfull=1#post87889
Direct request to D2 to step up to the hard questions;
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87731&viewfull=1#post87731
Some (previously released) issues with Hauser's work/claims, and also that which is associated with it and ran from, to consider;
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87555&viewfull=1#post87555
Some (previously released) issues with Hauser's work/claims, and also that which is associated with it and ran from, to consider;
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87564&viewfull=1#post87564 So, as you can see what is really sad is; A) Being misled about what really constitutes "sad"; whether or not one makes allegations on such a basis. B) Not being able to and/or not wanting to explain yourself, whilst (hypocritically?) claiming something else - that is actually fair and justified - is sad. C) Calling and/or treating something that is not sad, as if it is, either sad, hating, and ridiculing; solely to justify such below/above-mentioned actions. D) Running from the hard questions, considerations, and issues to do all above and below. To me, what is interesting about all this (and how "sad" is mistakenly used whilst point "D" {and the other above-mentioned points} is real) . . . . . is the ridicule and hate that can be so easily spewed out (without any concern whatsoever for what is truly correct; certainly far, far, less concern/effort as that put into evading the hard questions) by Queens and others over some immature and half baked issue/claim, including those related to both Floyd (of which Pac almost always has, at least, an equal issue that is ignored {see above links including those directed at you}) and also anyone that dare use the truth as a yardstick . . . .almost as if lies are a better yardstick . . . . . . But then, not only is there no such unchecked and unsubstantiated hate spewed out over other (real/realer) issues - issues that do have lots of genuine concern and substantiation associated with them - including those about Pacquaio – but also anything to do with questioning the foundation of FloydHating and its tribal voodoo behavioral cousin, is quite literally ran from; skirt up, PacQueen style. This happens so often and regularly that another reliable pattern associated with this enigmatic imbalance is that associated between the often unchecked (as shown by how many questions are ran from) FloydHate ridicule that's spewed out (but not always deserving of it), and that ridicule/hate which has substance (as shown by how many questions are ran from) but is not ever spewed out over PacFactsFraud&Considerations (despite it being deserving of it and/or the same treatment Floyd gets from the aforementioned “running PacQueens”). Diving a little
Deeper into the
Deepwater on this issue - that is ran from despite how it hypocritically fuels the very nonsense it claims to expose; on one hand we have the absent concern for the former mentioned FloydHate ridicule that's spewed out; which is usually associated with circumstances where that uncontrolled ridicule and hate is directed – by Queens - toward Floyd and/or it supports views that will rubbish him and/or those that oppose/question lies and other curiously related PacQueen claims. This non-unique and predictable approach is the polar opposite and totally unlike how - on the *other hand - the very same people, Queens, and tribalists, will then sometimes treat any information that - even remotely – opposes and/or questions the above-mentioned unchecked FloydHate and PacPlums4evaInMyMouth views, by (erroneously, hypocritically, and hilariously) presenting it with the very concern that is absent (but should not be) within the above-mentioned FloydHate ridicule that's uncontrollably spewed out, rarely checked, and (when questioned) ran from. As in that (second*) circumstance, PacQueen predictably, any opposing information - or even that which suggests both Floyd and Pac should be treated the same with respect to the claimed issues at hand (as
Storm often has) - is (often without checking) swiftly (and hypocritically) deemed/treated by Queen like behavior, as being the very unreasonable ridicule and hate that the PacQueen unchecked and ran from (when questioned) material is that is mentioned above and spewed out by those whom Floyd (and Pac; due to his lies) proved wrong with MayPac. And, this is despite the clearly laid out, referenced, and not unreasonable clarification requests and issues that oppose/question the unchecked FloydHate and PacPlums4eveaInMyMouth views often, themselves - unlike those assertions of the above-mentioned people, Queens, and tribalists - being justified and referenced critique/questions . . . where explanations have been sought; but never provided - not even by people such as your good self whom are throwing stones in glass houses. It’s as funny as it is predictable and infantile. And, it's almost like, with some of these considerations, questions, and issues,
Deepwater is in
Deepwater the very instant he is questioned about the views he feels most strongly about, and I will leave it to you as to whether that - or not reading all the posts in relation to an issue you report/respond to - is another definition of “sad”. Love the humour and clockwork like predictability of it all though. All of this Queening, running, failing to explain, naivety, selective attention, misinterpretation, and being easily misled; when often all it really is, is; 1) A fear of the truth. 2) A fear of questions/concerns about issues and/or boxing-writing that doesn't always necessarily support the typically easily subscribed to (and rarely checked) PacQueenFloydHate views. Views that were initially (in some cases) far too easily swallowed and used as a platform to make brazen - but non-sensical - claims. 3) And, of course, the legacy of this . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&viewfull=1#post87807 Until someone can go through all the above points, and those points that they themselves relate to, and explain them, why they're overlooked (particularly whilst posts like yours {and the one to which this addresses;
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22608-Hauser-on-Mayweather-Berto&p=87917&viewfull=1#post87917 } are released), and how they're unreasonable . . . . . . . . . Then what we have (again) is selective perception, fiction, and pretending. Which, really, takes us back to the directly above point 3, just as much as it substantiates it; doesn’t it? No need to answer. Anyway, nice try to pass of a pig's ear as a silk purse. It probably would have easily been accepted in the rump of a willing donkey, but since that is not what we’re dealing with here with
StormCentre, how about (if you can that is) you address the above outstanding issues (or even just 1/4 of them), "firm up" your position, and then come back for another try with some (real) substance; rather than just a sticky label called “sad” that can usually be pinned on the tail of any unsuspecting donkey.
Deepwater, you can do better than this. And that's something I have always believed in ever since you obviously conceded on the Whitaker V Mayweather matter; after failing to follow through on it. Have a shot at some of the longstanding overlooked material mentioned above, and either see how you go or ask yourself why you can't. Finally, on Hauser; until we get decent answers - to some of those same above-mentioned issues/questions that you also have, “sadly”, not yet answered - from Hauser, and until we see objective, evenhanded, and non agenda driven work from him (as he is capable of) that doesn’t just reference Pacquaio and consistently fail to treat him the same as Floyd, then I stand by what I say and what I have already substantiated/questioned. Over to you now. Cheers,
Storm. :) :) :)


-stormcentre :

Exactly! True journalists release stuff to get the greatest "bang for their buck." These journalists have tough skin too. They can care less about Money May seeking vengeance and keeping them out of covering one of his boring scraps. He controls the fanboys, not da real real. Holla!
Oh, for a second there I thought you meant "da real-real" as in Snoop Doggy Dog real. But now I get it, you mean "da d real real" like here . . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79438&viewfull=1#post79438 Or here . . . . [QUOTE=Radam G;45067]
The best way to increase hand speed is to shoot through, instead of at. And eating watermelon seeds, egg yolk, and drinking black cherry juice a few times a week.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?13547-WTF!-Lil-Kim-is-Pregnant-And-Word-is-That-Money-May-is-The-Big-Poppa&p=45067&viewfull=1#post45067 Increase speed comes by the body being loosey goosey and not gassy and inflamed in the slightest degree. The above causes the blood to circulate at its correct speed of going through the whole body
at least 30,000 times a minute. You get max relaxation. And with that comes blast speed of extremities. Add a bit of powers of cardamom, maca and red pepper. And you will get arrested for extremity speeding. Hehehe! Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G;79372]
Trust ME! I never make up anything as I go along. I'm solid as a rock and have my TSS achivies, Youtube and Daily Motion backing back me up 100 percent. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G;79372]
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?2970-Pacquiao-To-Fight-Juan-Manuel-Marquez-On-Nov-12&p=79372&viewfull=1#post79372 Pulling up a blast-from-the-past post will not INDICT me.
I'm real and will keep it that way.
Life is too short for bullspit phonies, fakers, lack of money makers and posers. How many time must I say?: "GTFOH! And CTFU!" Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G;44182]
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?13547-WTF!-Lil-Kim-is-Pregnant-And-Word-is-That-Money-May-is-The-Big-Poppa&p=44182&viewfull=1#post44182
I know every iota of the boxing game. But I won't be able to guide and slide with you yet. I will be hiding in plain sight in LA starting on March 3, 2014. Holla! [/QUOTE] Here laides and gentlemen is the origin of this . . . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&viewfull=1#post87807


-Radam G :

It doesn't look good for Lil Floyd.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=62NcbK6_SHA&t=1. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Exactly! True journalists release stuff to get the greatest "bang for their buck." These journalists have tough skin too. They can care less about Money May seeking vengeance and keeping them out of covering one of his boring scraps. He controls the fanboys, not da real real. Holla!
Oh, for a second there I thought you meant "da real-real" as in Snoop Doggy Dog real. But now I get it, you mean "da real real" like here . . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20462-Tally-List-Of-Un-Substantiated-Posts&p=79438&viewfull=1#post79438 Or here . . . . [QUOTE=Radam G;45067]
The best way to increase hand speed is to shoot through, instead of at. And eating watermelon seeds, egg yolk, and drinking black cherry juice a few times a week.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?13547-WTF!-Lil-Kim-is-Pregnant-And-Word-is-That-Money-May-is-The-Big-Poppa&p=45067&viewfull=1#post45067 Increase speed comes by the body being loosey goosey and not gassy and inflamed in the slightest degree. The above causes the blood to circulate at its correct speed of going through the whole body
at least 30,000 times a minute. You get max relaxation. And with that comes blast speed of extremities. Add a bit of powers of cardamom, maca and red pepper. And you will get arrested for extremity speeding. Hehehe! Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G;79372]
Trust ME! I never make up anything as I go along. I'm solid as a rock and have my TSS achivies, Youtube and Daily Motion backing back me up 100 percent. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G;79372]
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?2970-Pacquiao-To-Fight-Juan-Manuel-Marquez-On-Nov-12&p=79372&viewfull=1#post79372 Pulling up a blast-from-the-past post will not INDICT me.
I'm real and will keep it that way.
Life is too short for bullspit phonies, fakers, lack of money makers and posers. How many time must I say?: "GTFOH! And CTFU!" Holla![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Radam G;44182]
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?13547-WTF!-Lil-Kim-is-Pregnant-And-Word-is-That-Money-May-is-The-Big-Poppa&p=44182&viewfull=1#post44182
I know every iota of the boxing game. But I won't be able to guide and slide with you yet. I will be hiding in plain sight in LA starting on March 3, 2014. Holla! [/QUOTE] And, above ladies and gentlemen is the origin of this . . . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&viewfull=1#post87807


-deepwater2 :

Well the first thing is the video with Pac ,Arum, and Roach. Roach says Ariza is more trouble than he is worth and Roach wants to know what Ariza put in his protein shakes that he gave MP. Okay. What did Ariza put in the shakes? Steroids/Peds/coke? I don't know. Only Ariza knows. Why doesn't he release the ingredients? Questions on the ingredients of a shake vs Floyd's 750 ml IV? Imagine if Pac was the one breaking a rule and getting an exemption. Did Pac ever have abnormally low testosterone ratios? Or did he have any suspicious test results or exemptions? Where there is smoke there is fire and Hauser is following Floyd's smoke,and not the fake weed smoke from Floyd's reality show. I have to look at the rest later today.


-The Shadow :

agreed Shadow, he also quietly contributed money to pay for Joe Frazier's funeral, when a writer labels an article to be about his Floyd vs Berto impressions and then sandwiches in the hate mail, you have to wonder why he even mentioned the fight in the first place if he wanted to write about totally unrelated subjects. If you get the time shoot me a PM, I'd like to know what type of interesting stuff you've been up to. The TSS forum has become somewhat of a ghost town lately, as you can see. Are you still on the Commish's show?
Been very busy! Will shoot a message. Yeah, it's a ghost town. It's unfortunate, it used to be so much fun. But the marquee players aren't really as active as they used to be from what I see. There was this insider guy, he used to be so entertaining, dropping gems left and right. Haha. I check in from time to time and go through posts, mostly Storm's, Bernie Campbell's and yours (you're smart, poignant, astute, fair and I love your writing style, always makes me smile). I think part of it is that it went from a fun, high-level, round table discussion to a Mayweather bashing community (and in all walks off life, bashers always seem to be a vocal minority). #MayPac seemed to trigger that and it went off the rails. Which is fine, too, whatever people like, free speech, etc. God bless them. Like Storm pointed out, those Lotierzo/Hauser pieces may get traction but...come on. I'll shoot you a message.


-The Shadow :

Come out of the shadows shadow. Did you ever have the boxing match or win the championship you wanted?
You missed me? :)


-deepwater2 :

You missed me? :)
Sure! Did Mr Haymon give you a promotion or a demotion yet?


-The Shadow :

Sure! Did Mr Haymon give you a promotion or a demotion yet?
Working on it, tried to talk to the guy at Garcia-Malignaggi but he's slippery sort, very elusive. Soon enough.


-brownsugar :

Been very busy! Will shoot a message. Yeah, it's a ghost town. It's unfortunate, it used to be so much fun. But the marquee players aren't really as active as they used to be from what I see. There was this insider guy, he used to be so entertaining, dropping gems left and right. Haha. I check in from time to time and go through posts, mostly Storm's, Bernie Campbell's and yours (you're smart, poignant, astute, fair and I love your writing style, always makes me smile). I think part of it is that it went from a fun, high-level, round table discussion to a Mayweather bashing community (and in all walks off life, bashers always seem to be a vocal minority). #MayPac seemed to trigger that and it went off the rails. Which is fine, too, whatever people like, free speech, etc. God bless them. Like Storm pointed out, those Lotierzo/Hauser pieces may get traction but...come on. I'll shoot you a message.
yep... I find myself on facebook more and more debating politics these days... lol....you brought a lot of class, insight and dignity here..... Miss your input, but I understand that change and growth are good things..