EASY “WORK”: Mayweather Gets Another Drama-Free Win, As Berto Is No Match For “TBE”

They hoped that the foe could push him, make the master look human…but no. It was what most thought it would be, another session of dominance for Floyd Mayweather, in what he purported would be his final in-ring effort.

The Best Ever, he told us he was, and certainly, defensively, he’s in the mix. Andre Berto couldn’t get a bead on the slipping, sliding, moving and grooving 38-year-old, who rose to 49-0 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. After 12 rounds, a couple minutes, maybe, of which were won by Berto, the judges told us what a blind man could see–Floyd Mayweather won another one. The scores were: 117-111 from Moretti, who should retire, because his vision is offfff, 118-110 from Weisfeld, 120-108 from Byrd.

Still champion, a superlative craftsman whose scientific take on fighting makes him a polarizing figure to those who like trading..but undeniably skilled.

The 32 year old Berto loaded up, tried to land anything…but Floyd makes you miss, just about every single time. There was never a moment where the outcome was in doubt, not from the anthems on.

Floyd went 232-410 to 83-495 for the loser.

And after, TBE told Jim Gray he was done, retired. No more fighting he said.

Was he the best ever? We will let the fans decide, he said…then admitted he thought he is No. 1 all-time.

There was more drama fight week, with IVGate, then on this fight night, which was expensive to watch sparring. Berto told us he had speed and power, and we saw neither, as Floyd once again showed himself to be of a different class.

In the first, Floyd was quick with the left. Berto was short on the jab, and Floyd jabbed to the gut and then head. He moved left and right, not running, but making it hard to get a bead on him.

In the second, Berto pressed more. He looked to ramp up aggression. He darted in and Floyd slid away. He backed, quick enough so it didn’t matter if he backed up straight. Floyd held some, using the headlock, but not that much. The crowd buzzed when Berto sort of landed a right late. Floyd slipped like a master off the ropes and the smarts in the crowd liked it.

In the third, Floyd started aggressively. The jab was the focus, and then he backed to the ropes. Then, back to center ring..Berto missed, Floyd saw it all coming. Berto was headlocking now…Floyd slipped, his glove touching, no knockdown.

In the fourth, Berto tried to press and aggress. It got chippy, but still Berto missed. Then a stern right landed on Berto. This was Floyd mixing it up, here. The crowd enjoyed the scrappier tone to the round.

In round five, Berto bulled, and they clinched up a bunch. Floyd was moving, popping the jab, being an ultra master of defense. Berto, would he win a round?

In the sixth, Berto tried to jab his way in. Floyd gave the peeps some O here, and the pace was reasonable fan friendly, with more of an edge than in MayPac. A jab-hook by Berto scored clean on Floyd, but rights to the body by Floyd looked nastier.

In the seventh, it was Floyd being an aggressor. The left forearm was there to obscure Berto’s vision, distract and help disarm. A jab and slide left move was so useful for TBE. Then Floyd was to the ropes, mixing it up, where he chose to be in the ring, how hard he wanted to work. Berto got off a combo or two and the crowd dug it.

To round eight..Floyd started jabbing, sliding left, Berto unable to track him down, cut him off. TBE saw everything coming, but drew boos when he backed off, walked around, didn’t engage. Berto missed about 82 percent of what he threw.

In round nine, he’d jab and instead of sliding left, lay on the ropes, let Berto come to him, and blunt the offense. The scrummed inside, toe to toe, mostly targeting each others’ body. Floyd’s dad asked for more jabbing after, after Floyd told dad his left hand was hurting.

In the tenth, Floyd told Berto to stop yapping. Ref Ken Bayless told them to stop yapping, and start punching. Floyd clowned, stuck his tongue out, basically was goofing.

More clowning in the 11th and Floyd hurt the underdog in the 12th. But no KO, we’d go to the cards…for the last time?

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COMMENTS

-stormcentre :

Damn my prediction for a Berto KO win was wrong!!!! Berto must have been tested for (and ceased taking his) watermelon seeds and cherry juice leading up to the fight. Still, he should have known to consume the right vitamins, minerals, and foods to properly feed his brains. Now the forum can erupt with joy that this is (possibly) the last of Floyd. Would still love to see retrograde CIR testing on both Pac and Floyd; so we can see the real deal behind all the claims and lies. :)


-DaveB :

I don't get the 49-0 thing or 50-0 when so many fighters have gone way beyond that. But it is a good marketing tool. Okay, now I get it. Everything is a marketing tool. It doesn't mean anything from a true boxing standpoint. He would have to get to 86-0 or what ever it is to have the best record.


-SouthPawFlo :

I don't think people really appreciate what Mayweather is/does... He's almost 40 and have been fighting twice a year and his reflexes are still sharp and I've never seen him fade in a fight... He always looks better in the last 4 rounds than he does in the first 4... Berto gave all his had, but Floyd is so slippery and craft it's hard for anyone to mount a steady offense against him... I don't know how it comes off to people on TV but in Real Life Floyd looks like he's always a step ahead of everybody he fights... This fight was more exciting than the May-Pac fight


-stormcentre :

I don't get the 49-0 thing or 50-0 when so many fighters have gone way beyond that. But it is a good marketing tool. Okay, now I get it. Everything is a marketing tool. It doesn't mean anything from a true boxing standpoint. He would have to get to 86-0 or what ever it is to have the best record.
You're right DB. There have been a few boxers to surpass it already. It served as a good marketing tool, but clearly not good enough to stave off the criticism and questions. It will be interesting to see where it all goes from here. Don't hold your breath on retrograde CIR testing being evenhandedly/accurately written about and/or discussed both here, or by Pac or Floyd. Thing is, I am not sure whether their (already taken) blood samples are their property anymore. If I was Pac I would be making sure all previously provided blood samples are destroyed. If I was Floyd - and the IV was for illegal/PED purposes - I would be doing the same. :)


-stormcentre :

I don't think people really appreciate what Mayweather is/does... He's almost 40 and have been fighting twice a year and his reflexes are still sharp and I've never seen him fade in a fight... He always looks better in the last 4 rounds than he does in the first 4... Berto gave all his had, but Floyd is so slippery and craft it's hard for anyone to mount a steady offense against him... I don't know how it comes off to people on TV but in Real Life Floyd looks like he's always a step ahead of everybody he fights... This fight was more exciting than the May-Pac fight
Oh they appreciate him alright SPF. They're also jealous. But, don't worry, they appreciate him and/or his skills. That's why they "always" fail to look at all the facts, truth, questions, and considerations, when ridiculing him, and often, instead, resort to wild claims, misinterpretations, and - of course - calling anyone that provides an evenhanded look as something like a bias FloydLover. It's also the reason why the sums of money I have offered for a PacQueen or PacFan to look at the truth and explain, remain as lonely as most of the other questions about the claims related to MayPac. You can't pay some of these cats to stop, think, be rational, and accept the truth, and that in itself is an endless source of humour. Love it !!!! :) :)


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

I have been watching some of the post on Mayweather on this forum and have to admit that some of you are just plain haters. If you don't like Floyd, don't watch his fights. I don?t know about "the best ever," but Floyd is definitely "ONE of the best ever." He is hands down the best of this generation skill for skill/pound for pound in comparison to other pugilist. As far as steroids are concerned, I have the same sentiments that Jose Canseco had about Barry Bonds. While Jose concurred that that steroids enhanced Bonds's physical abilities he also stated that Bonds was the most gifted player in the game regardless of whether he used or not. He was a 40/40 player (home runs, stolen bases) that also was a golden glover before the steroid allegations. Likewise, if there was conclusive evidence that hit the news media tomorrow proving that Floyd had used roids he would still be considered arguably the best of his generation. Just like steroids don't enhance hand to eye coordination in baseball; they also don't enhance ones skill in boxing. If they did there would be a lot of fighters that would be in Floyd's league currently. I could be wrong but I believe that I saw someone post on another thread in TSS that the Floyd vs. Pac fight should have been scored a draw and that if Pac had two good shoulders he would have defeated Floyd. This is simply ignorance and jealousy in my opinion. Many can't except the truth and the truth is that Pacman and 95 percent of the current pugilist in the game right now don't have the skills, ability, or boxing IQ to get with Mayweather. Oh, and from a capitalistic point of view, he is the greatest boxer ever, but that is a topic for another thread and time. Stop hating and stop using double standards when assessing Floyd's legacy. Peace!


-stormcentre :

And for you and those wise/brave words my friend; listen and enjoy this beautiful musical masterpiece. It (and LTN) really is something special.

Finally, SRD, I never knew Bonds was a golden gloves fighter. Wicked. :) :)


-Domenic :

I have been watching some of the post on Mayweather on this forum and have to admit that some of you are just plain haters. If you don't like Floyd, don't watch his fights. I don?t know about "the best ever," but Floyd is definitely "ONE of the best ever." He is hands down the best of this generation skill for skill/pound for pound in comparison to other pugilist. As far as steroids are concerned, I have the same sentiments that Jose Canseco had about Barry Bonds. While Jose concurred that that steroids enhanced Bonds's physical abilities he also stated that Bonds was the most gifted player in the game regardless of whether he used or not. He was a 40/40 player (home runs, stolen bases) that also was a golden glover before the steroid allegations. Likewise, if there was conclusive evidence that hit the news media tomorrow proving that Floyd had used roids he would still be considered arguably the best of his generation. Just like steroids don't enhance hand to eye coordination in baseball; they also don't enhance ones skill in boxing. If they did there would be a lot of fighters that would be in Floyd's league currently. I could be wrong but I believe that I saw someone post on another thread in TSS that the Floyd vs. Pac fight should have been scored a draw and that if Pac had two good shoulders he would have defeated Floyd. This is simply ignorance and jealousy in my opinion. Many can't except the truth and the truth is that Pacman and 95 percent of the current pugilist in the game right now don't have the skills, ability, or boxing IQ to get with Mayweather. Oh, and from a capitalistic point of view, he is the greatest boxer ever, but that is a topic for another thread and time. Stop hating and stop using double standards when assessing Floyd's legacy. Peace!
Excellent post. 100% correct with regard to Bonds too. His sins were one, he was a very unlikable guy, and two, he didn't issue a mea culpa. Like Nixon, the crime wasn't his undoing, but instead, lying about it. What PED's did for him was elevate him from an existing great to the most lethal hitter in baseball history for that window of time. That transformation doesn't happen with a career AAA guy. In my opinion, he was a shoo-in for Cooperstown before he juiced, and deserves to be there, along with Clemens. The steroid thing has an almost witch-hunt feel to me. So many guys juice/juiced. Some were caught, tons were not. Holyfield, Toney, and RJJ still have in tact legacies, irrespective of their PED usage. Is it right? No. But it's the reality. Floyd uses that injection for his hands that, and correct if I'm wrong, is legal only in Las Vegas. So if he fought in Madison Square Garden, he'd be using a banned substance. If his blood from previous fights is still available for testing, ala Lance Armstrong, and more sophisticated testing reveals he was dirty, so be it. He just goes into the camp with Holyfield, Toney, RJJ, and a lot of others. Floyd is the best, most skilled fighter of this generation, no question about it. My only beef with his legacy is he so often waited for a guy to grow old ring-wise/become damaged goods before fighting him. I mean, here's a guy that was last an underdog using Vegas odds in...I don't know, 1998 against Genaro, if ever. Floyd wasn't always that way either, at least in words, if not deeds. I remember his saying in the 2003/2004 range that he was open to fighting Winky Wright and Bernard Hopkins back then. I just think the undefeated thing was almost malignant and greatly impacted his risk-taking. Had the decision gone to Castillo in their first fight, I think he would've embraced risk more readily these last ten years and fought guys at their peak. But who knows. I skipped it last night, got a good night's sleep, read about the fight here, and most importantly hallelujah, it's football season!!!


-amayseng :

I have been watching some of the post on Mayweather on this forum and have to admit that some of you are just plain haters. If you don't like Floyd, don't watch his fights. I don?t know about "the best ever," but Floyd is definitely "ONE of the best ever." He is hands down the best of this generation skill for skill/pound for pound in comparison to other pugilist. As far as steroids are concerned, I have the same sentiments that Jose Canseco had about Barry Bonds. While Jose concurred that that steroids enhanced Bonds's physical abilities he also stated that Bonds was the most gifted player in the game regardless of whether he used or not. He was a 40/40 player (home runs, stolen bases) that also was a golden glover before the steroid allegations. Likewise, if there was conclusive evidence that hit the news media tomorrow proving that Floyd had used roids he would still be considered arguably the best of his generation. Just like steroids don't enhance hand to eye coordination in baseball; they also don't enhance ones skill in boxing. If they did there would be a lot of fighters that would be in Floyd's league currently. I could be wrong but I believe that I saw someone post on another thread in TSS that the Floyd vs. Pac fight should have been scored a draw and that if Pac had two good shoulders he would have defeated Floyd. This is simply ignorance and jealousy in my opinion. Many can't except the truth and the truth is that Pacman and 95 percent of the current pugilist in the game right now don't have the skills, ability, or boxing IQ to get with Mayweather. Oh, and from a capitalistic point of view, he is the greatest boxer ever, but that is a topic for another thread and time. Stop hating and stop using double standards when assessing Floyd's legacy. Peace!
Floyd is a fantastic fighter, he is a physical phenom as far as quickness, footwork and agility and his boxing iq is waaaaaaaay up there with the atg's. However, let's not get crazy now, he is not even a top 30 ATG and that is not coming from me but the boxing historians who TRULY know the history and fighters of the sport. I say the one suspect thing to consider at this point is PEDS for Floyd's conditioning. The IV accusations RAISE question marks especially for a near 39 year old who like the great Southpawflo mentions above is that the guy NEVER tires, crazy, just like Lance Armstrong. He is now caught lying about his walk around weight, no need to rehydrate for a fight when he just used the excuse for illegal amounts of supposive vitamins and saline, which would be an inferior choice for the man with the most money and best team to choose the best rehydration solutions, and he had them administered in his home, while asking for an exemption 18 days later. Why have drug testing and proclaim to be clean if you are going to ask for an exemption to use drugs not to be clean? Floyd-great boxer, who held and stalled his way to too many victories against past prime fighters.


-Radam G :

I have been watching some of the post on Mayweather on this forum and have to admit that some of you are just plain haters. If you don't like Floyd, don't watch his fights. I don?t know about "the best ever," but Floyd is definitely "ONE of the best ever." He is hands down the best of this generation skill for skill/pound for pound in comparison to other pugilist. As far as steroids are concerned, I have the same sentiments that Jose Canseco had about Barry Bonds. While Jose concurred that that steroids enhanced Bonds's physical abilities he also stated that Bonds was the most gifted player in the game regardless of whether he used or not. He was a 40/40 player (home runs, stolen bases) that also was a golden glover before the steroid allegations. Likewise, if there was conclusive evidence that hit the news media tomorrow proving that Floyd had used roids he would still be considered arguably the best of his generation. Just like steroids don't enhance hand to eye coordination in baseball; they also don't enhance ones skill in boxing. If they did there would be a lot of fighters that would be in Floyd's league currently. I could be wrong but I believe that I saw someone post on another thread in TSS that the Floyd vs. Pac fight should have been scored a draw and that if Pac had two good shoulders he would have defeated Floyd. This is simply ignorance and jealousy in my opinion. Many can't except the truth and the truth is that Pacman and 95 percent of the current pugilist in the game right now don't have the skills, ability, or boxing IQ to get with Mayweather. Oh, and from a capitalistic point of view, he is the greatest boxer ever, but that is a topic for another thread and time. Stop hating and stop using double standards when assessing Floyd's legacy. Peace!
I'd expect nothing less from you, SRD! You are just like the Money May's judge, A___ Byrd. She has nearly always given Lil Floyd every round in every one of his scraps that she scored. And Lil Floyd has not won every round of every scrap. And has not even won every scrap in the actuality of the reality. The judge is an idol worshipper and fan girl of Money May, plan and simple. Lil Floyd is great. And that is good enough. Anybody can see that except for those who go overboard with bullsyet of making an untouchable hero or gift-getting villain. Holla!


-DaveB :

You can't not watch fights or not read comments by posters just because you criticize or don't like someone. Let's face it, that is not going to happen. Yes Floyd will be criticized because he is in your face about being the best ever. It is probably an opinion only he a few others share. He can opine how ever he wants, I guess. Everyone and I mean everyone would have much more respect for him if he had of said I'm the best of the best bring on the rest. It is not even a matter of his fighting style it is more the impression of him not fighting a lot of people at their best. I know people will say everyone has ducked someone but this guy is saying he is the best ever. And a lot of those other fighters did fight some of the other boxers at their best, just not all. I know when ever I have watched Mayweather fights I've am never a nervous wreck like say watching Holyfield/Bowe or Holyfield/Tyson II or Margarito/Cotto or intrigued like Margarito/Williams even. Either fighters were past their primes or the fight was stacked against them overwhelmingly because they were the B fighters. Also had Mayweather fought the best at their best, I'm not saying there was anyone who could have beaten him but he didn't fight them so he doesn't get that credit. Before Pacquaio is brought up I used to get upset at him too but we are talking about Mayweather here. I truly believe that is why the May/Pac fight didn't come off all those years ago. Both were A fighters at the time and they couldn't get the other one to walk to their beat. It was only after Pacquaio's star fell that Mayweather was able to get all his demands. Had Mayweather been the one doing the falling Pacquaio would have returned the favor. That messes up boxing from the fan's viewpoint. That hurts legacies for what ever that is really worth. If he is found to be taking PED's he will be hit even harder in the court of public opinion because of being a "proponent" of cleaning up the sport. People in glass houses should not throw stones.


-deepwater2 :

Floyd is full of it. By declaring himself tbe, he turns off a lot of fans. Floyd must not know his boxing history. The men that came before him fought 15,20,30+ rounds. They fought in cigar smoke filled arenas where it was hard to breath. They fought against men that would Foul hard,with no say from the ref. The boxers that came before Floyd fought every 3 weeks with stitches over their eyes. The boxers before Floyd were knocked down and the opponent didn't have to go to a neutral corner. They were allowed to stand over the fallen boxer and attacked as soon as they got off the knee. Floyd can BS the newer fans but real boxing fans know Floyd is very good but not anywhere tbe. Floyd just fought a drama free fight. Let him retire and enjoy the fruits of his labor. It's now time for a big drama show. The way boxing is supposed to be.


-SouthPawFlo :

I really wish you guys could've seen Floyd Fight in person, it's hard to explain but the guy was just "different." If his career is in doubt over, I'll remember that me personally have never seen anybody this good for this long.... I think RJJR was more gifted, Sugar Ray Leonard was more talented and we all knew Ali was waaaaaaayyyy more Loved and more Charismatic, but NOBODY has been this good for this long... Being a WORLD CHAMPION for 18 years is unheard of in boxing... Sugar Shane Mosley was a Menace at 135lbs and when you look at how he aged and look at how Floyd Aged you can see that Floyd is "Different." He may not be the "Best Ever" to some people, but I've seen the fight up close and he'll get my vote for at least Top 5 for just Longevity Alone, the guy I Saw MURDER Arturo Gatti almost a decade ago is still a step ahead of everybody in the game now...


-deepwater2 :

I really wish you guys could've seen Floyd Fight in person, it's hard to explain but the guy was just "different." If his career is in doubt over, I'll remember that me personally have never seen anybody this good for this long.... I think RJJR was more gifted, Sugar Ray Leonard was more talented and we all knew Ali was waaaaaaayyyy more Loved and more Charismatic, but NOBODY has been this good for this long... Being a WORLD CHAMPION for 18 years is unheard of in boxing... Sugar Shane Mosley was a Menace at 135lbs and when you look at how he aged and look at how Floyd Aged you can see that Floyd is "Different." He may not be the "Best Ever" to some people, but I've seen the fight up close and he'll get my vote for at least Top 5 for just Longevity Alone, the guy I Saw MURDER Arturo Gatti almost a decade ago is still a step ahead of everybody in the game now...
I've seen Floyd live. Good fundamentals. Like a 12 round Olympic fight, I've seen other guys live that put me up out of my seat. I was at Gatti mayweather. Some of Arturo's people told me he was on a party binge after the Ward and Leija fights and should of taken more time to train before mayweather. Two things I remember from that fight was I saw winning gloves for the first time on Floyd and bought a pair after,the second was Floyd used the forearm in the first round and set the pace of the fight. Protect your self at all times against all fouls.
->http://youtu.be/V5q57ZboGw0


-Radam G :

You can't not watch fights or not read comments by posters just because you criticize or don't like someone. Let's face it, that is not going to happen. Yes Floyd will be criticized because he is in your face about being the best ever. It is probably an opinion only he a few others share. He can opine how ever he wants, I guess. Everyone and I mean everyone would have much more respect for him if he had of said I'm the best of the best bring on the rest. It is not even a matter of his fighting style it is more the impression of him not fighting a lot of people at their best. I know people will say everyone has ducked someone but this guy is saying he is the best ever. And a lot of those other fighters did fight some of the other boxers at their best, just not all. I know when ever I have watched Mayweather fights I've am never a nervous wreck like say watching Holyfield/Bowe or Holyfield/Tyson II or Margarito/Cotto or intrigued like Margarito/Williams even. Either fighters were past their primes or the fight was stacked against them overwhelmingly because they were the B fighters. Also had Mayweather fought the best at their best, I'm not saying there was anyone who could have beaten him but he didn't fight them so he doesn't get that credit. Before Pacquaio is brought up I used to get upset at him too but we are talking about Mayweather here. I truly believe that is why the May/Pac fight didn't come off all those years ago. Both were A fighters at the time and they couldn't get the other one to walk to their beat. It was only after Pacquaio's star fell that Mayweather was able to get all his demands. Had Mayweather been the one doing the falling Pacquaio would have returned the favor. That messes up boxing from the fan's viewpoint. That hurts legacies for what ever that is really worth. If he is found to be taking PED's he will be hit even harder in the court of public opinion because of being a "proponent" of cleaning up the sport. People in glass houses should not throw stones.
Nice, stinging, truthful post. Every iota of what you said about Money May is a "ROGER DAT!" He has been more of a con man and thief than a TBE pug. But it is no hate of him for that. Da game is da hurt bitnezz [sic] of prizefighting, not pride fighting. And Money May has always timed scraps for the prize, not the pride. Of course Money May was going to never fight a live deadly, dangerous dawg. He forever fought hurt or aged dawgs when they were already physically injured or damaged age-fully. Money May is the richest fighting con man in the beginning of the 21st-century, as Jack Johnson was in the 20th-century. Actually when you count inflation and how "Unforgivable Blackness" JJ was paid in pure gold versus how Money May is being paid in uncovered-by-any-minerals paper money, Johnson made the highest amount of dough. Both he and Money May were/are brainy with prize and being safe over pride and being a wreck. I ain't got nuffin' but love for Money May's prize scrapping over pride pugging. He is no doubt "TBE" in prize scrapping for paper notes. But the best ever for richness were Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey and the "Cinderella Man," who was making a large amount of "Brownbomber" Joe Louis's purses. The Cinderella Man made large figures from every title defense of the Brownbomber. Now that is straight-up gangsta. Holla!


-Radam G :

I really wish you guys could've seen Floyd Fight in person, it's hard to explain but the guy was just "different." If his career is in doubt over, I'll remember that me personally have never seen anybody this good for this long.... I think RJJR was more gifted, Sugar Ray Leonard was more talented and we all knew Ali was waaaaaaayyyy more Loved and more Charismatic, but NOBODY has been this good for this long... Being a WORLD CHAMPION for 18 years is unheard of in boxing... Sugar Shane Mosley was a Menace at 135lbs and when you look at how he aged and look at how Floyd Aged you can see that Floyd is "Different." He may not be the "Best Ever" to some people, but I've seen the fight up close and he'll get my vote for at least Top 5 for just Longevity Alone, the guy I Saw MURDER Arturo Gatti almost a decade ago is still a step ahead of everybody in the game now...
I can get you on longevity, but I'm not a gotcha man, so I will just name six that Money May cannot compare with: the late, greats Archie "The Old Mongoose" Moore, Bob FitzSimmons, "Big, Old Smoke" Jack Johnson, and the still living Bob Foster, Robert Duran and Bernard "B-Hop Alien" Hopkin. Lil Floyd gets a lot of luv because of the not knowing of many fanfaronades and fanboys, and groupies. Sorry! But lil Floyd has not been special. He has been conning and cunning with optical illusions and bullsyet and buying off the powers that be for most of his career. Holla!


-Froggy :

My brother e-mailed me today and said last night was a great day for the sport of boxing, Mayweather had his last fight ! We buy many PPV's but last night was of course not one of them, lets just hope this is permanent, maybe the money guy will really give the fans what they want for a change !


-stormcentre :

I'd expect nothing less from you, SRD! You are just like the Money May's judge, A___ Byrd. She has nearly always given Lil Floyd every round in every one of his scraps that she scored. And Lil Floyd has not won every round of every scrap. And has not even won every scrap in the actuality of the reality. The judge is an idol worshipper and fan girl of Money May, plan and simple. Lil Floyd is great. And that is good enough. Anybody can see that except for those who go overboard with bullsyet of making an untouchable hero or gift-getting villain. Holla!
This . . . coming from a PacQueen that claimed 122 clinches in MayPac (hoping to rev up all those that don't care whether what they cheer about is correct or not), and then ran from both the statement and also the offer to review the MayPac video and check it. Hee Haw. Hey, "Mr. Moonlight stimulated 20,000/second PED circulation", there's $200 over here if you can tell/approach the truth.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22547-LOTIERZO-Now-You-Have-All-Reasons-Needed-To-Boycott-Mayweather-Berto&p=87611&viewfull=1#post87611 Geez, you can't pay some cats around here to get near - let alone tell - the truth. But then, given the fact-fiction and claim-explanation ratio currently enjoyed; we would be nothing more than galloping crazy cherry juice addicts to believe anything else; so I'd expect nothing less from NostRADAMazz. By the way, please do me a favour NostRADAMazz and park your post #17's ""not knowing of many fanfaronades and fanboys, and groupies"" against all your unproven/wild claims; such as no-one - and NostRADAMazz means no-one - ever missed a body-shot on Floyd, and of course ""I am 100% real and never bulljive"". Which brings me to your word-lesson for today. As per yesterday . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22531-Hard-work-MEDICATION&p=87632&viewfull=1#post87632 When your word - to investigate and treat like you would either, a fiction to be cherry juice cherished even in the face of undeniable fact, and/or a dog that served you well that you have designs on cutting/cooking up and eating tomorrow - for the day was; "psychiatrist". Your word for today is; "hypocrisy". Not sure if there is a magic potion for that or not (doesn't seem to be from your posts) but then if one can be dreamed of, I rest assured that you're the NostRADAMazz to do it. In the meantime give these cats a call;
->http://www.psychguides.com/guides/psychosis-symptoms-causes-and-effects/ Love it !!! :) :)


-brownsugar :

I thoroughly enjoyed the entire card... Badou Jack surprised me. Groves beat Degale and gave Froch all he could handle in their first meeting so it seemed a given that Groves would steam roll the confident money team member.... But Jack scored a knockdown early and maintained a potent body assault throughout the 12 rounds. Bone crunching action action all the way as Groves refused to go away quietly. Turns out the knockdown proved to be the deciding factor at the conclusion of the fight After several rounds of Floyd vs Berto, I was wondering if I was watching the right fight. Berto spent the first few rounds overcoming his awe of Mayweather and seemingly coming to grasp with the scale and scope of the event. After being screamed at by Virgil and given several scathing tongue lashings between rounds, Berto endeavored to pull his head out of his arse and go to work. Virgil gave little technical advise,... for what when Berto was struggling to even engage Mayweather? He simply preached, exhorted and cajoled Berto to fight and give it everything he's got, much like a battleship captain whose ship had sustained a torpedo hit amid ship, and even though the ship was struggling to stay afloat, its valiant crew would take as many of the enemy with them before seeking solace in their final resting place beneath the waves. by round 4 Berto was unplugged, his initial tentative demeanor was supplanted by his warrior spirit and something in Berto's mind became unhinged,... and it looked as though Berto was never coming back. Berto and Floyed mauled and brawled,...slugged and traded, swapped uppercuts and body shots in a wild action packed brawl that reminded me of what a fight between Bruce Lee and John Wayne would look like, even though Wayne had a pair of cojones the size of Texas, there was no way he was ever going to beat Lee. The fight action became so bodacious that I actually broke out laughing as Floyd broke out moves and showed flashes of himself we had not seen since his "Pretty Boy" days, ... Floyd hit Berto so hard that he complained to his corner briefly that he hurt his left hand....even the crowd applauded and cheered the ending of most rounds. I can honestly say i was highly entertained The perfect fight with which to end a fairytale like career. Floyd will be missed... just be smart enough to stay retired.


-SouthPawFlo :

Still at the MGM and I noticed.... There's a lot of people who said they were gonna "boycot" the fight who's been commenting on Floyd and the fight and his "legacy."


-stormcentre :

Yes, it's interesting isn't it? :) :)


-stormcentre :

Floyd is full of it. By declaring himself tbe, he turns off a lot of fans. Floyd must not know his boxing history. The men that came before him fought 15,20,30+ rounds. They fought in cigar smoke filled arenas where it was hard to breath. They fought against men that would Foul hard,with no say from the ref. The boxers that came before Floyd fought every 3 weeks with stitches over their eyes. The boxers before Floyd were knocked down and the opponent didn't have to go to a neutral corner. They were allowed to stand over the fallen boxer and attacked as soon as they got off the knee. Floyd can BS the newer fans but real boxing fans know Floyd is very good but not anywhere tbe. Floyd just fought a drama free fight. Let him retire and enjoy the fruits of his labor. It's now time for a big drama show. The way boxing is supposed to be.
I thought Floyd knew all that about yesteryears fighters, as he has openly stated that he doesn't want to end up - or fight - like those guys. That has been mentioned here heaps of times before D2. Agree, whilst we look for negatives in Floyd and ignore more obvious ones in others, let's let him retire. Great post. :)


-Radam G :

Optical illusions are everywhere. And this is for you, SRD. Take inflation into consideration, and you will see that Money May's dough without the inflation of the uncovered-by gold, silver, oil or diamond dollar ain't a monster giant over the past high-money-makers of their days. Your great grand pops probably made a dollar of two an hour. Now you do 20 to 200 dollars an hour. And the cost of living is up also. So are you really outdoing your great grand pops that much? That is what I though! NO! Money May is a big liar when he says that only heavyweights were making millions until he came. Dude needs a serious fact checker. Holla!


-SouthPawFlo :

Maybe all the people who "boycotted" his fight should boycot all topics and threads about him too...


-Radam G :

Maybe all the people who "boycotted" his fight should boycot all topics and threads about him too...
Hehehe! You got jokes! Money May is the talk of pugilism. Like it or not. Holla!


-SouthPawFlo :

Been talking boxing all weekend long, even when the football games here on boxing was the talk of the Sports Bar here, what's crazy is first nobody thought Floyd would fight 6 times in 30 months and Floyd has lost less than 12 Rds in those 6 fights, and he entered the ring the other man in every one of those fights.... The man is the Michael Jackson of Boxing, and easily the best of his generation... Off Note, Shawn Porter and Thurman were yapping all weekend about fighting each other, can't wait to see if Haymon pulls this together and gets them in the ring...


-stormcentre :

Surely you don't mean follow through on what was said SPF? C'mon man . . . that's asking a lot. Almost as much as expecting the truth and facts to be welcomed open arms. You know - open arms - as if it were a FloydHate factoid that was obviously in need of scrutiny that it will not receive - as much as it also lent itself perfectly to both easy and widespread misinterpretation for "further" purposes. Wanna know something hysterically/hypocritically funny? See post #24? It's author is - amazingly - in the one/same post, calling someone a liar, claiming he needs a fact checker, and also stating that optical illusions are everywhere. Even without his bumbling history and reputation for running and being consistently wrong; it's hard to fathom the true depth of hypocrisy, goofiness, and delusion associated with such a claim. Talk about chasing your tail around a tree without the slightest knowledge that it's you that you're barking at. And that in itself tells you why most that claim they're boycotting Floyd's fights, actually treat their own questionable claims about such as if it were nothing other than a pre-fight PacClaim suggesting all is well and a KO is about to happen. With little regard for the truth. Constantly selectively ignoring/interpreting information and releasing claims you run from when questioned . . . you know . . . it's kind of like saying your TBE and not being it. And that in itself is an observation and relationship, that's interesting, and perhaps also hypocritical, isn't it? Anyway, the fact that it is same cat chasing his tail around the tree, running from the truth, and barking (unsure whether he's a cat or puppy) at himself, as above-mentioned that's both; A) Calling someone a liar, claiming someone needs a fact checker, and also stating that optical illusions are everywhere. B) At the centre of the entire PacLossExcuseFloydHateMovement. Really, constitutes everything else that you need to know about why unchecked and fantastic claims are the order of the day; including those pertaining to supposedly boycotting Floyd's fights. Put simply - and, seriously, this is just so beautifully and elegantly humorous/telling that it's pure gold - you just can't pay and/or expect a PacQueen to PacKnowledge the truth/facts and/or answer questions about their wild accusations and claims; all typical signs of a sham. They can't do it. The "truth", "scrutinise", "think first before claiming", and "explain" genes are - sadly - no longer in their DNA. They were probably there at the start; but not know. It's not their fault either. You see, NostRADAMazz legend has it that these genes have been burnt out by cosmic rays that were fired onto the Earth by aliens from another planet. Secret aliens looking to harvest all our watermelon seeds, cherry juice, and FloydHate to fuel their starships; whom have travelled great distances across the galaxy in their supremely advanced spacecrafts. Spacecrafts that were previously powered by the vitamins and minerals that; A) Not only - amazingly - are the same vitamins/minerals that also cure cervical arthritis and poorly fed brains (yes it's really true!!!); that are now somewhat hard to find . .. due to, no doubt, NostRADAMazz not telling anyone what these vitamins/minerals really are. B) But also secret vitamins/minerals that constitute the very vitamins and minerals that were also previously - by the secretly visiting aliens - nutritionally extracted from the BumFluff of these same truth-rejecting PacQueens by an extra-terrestial called "PacQueenBumVaporDeposition", which itself (whilst sounding like a process that places great faith in claims that probably have no greater value than a fart, and then vigorously defending that misplaced faith by releasing what is nothing more than ever increasing amounts of the same obnoxious gases, actually) worked by the aliens both, (1) recognising that certain PacQueen's weaknesses for lies that suit could easily be exploited and (2) extracting/blending up only those PacQueen's bum-hairs that were suitable and extracted from; B1) Not only the most frigid, non-sensical, fact/truth-rejecting, and temperamental Queens that were susceptible to any factoids that served their interests. B2) But also only those PacQueen's (bum-hairs) that have somehow managed to allow the moonlight to shine in on them continuously for periods of time in excess of 2 days every month - something that apparently can not happen unless the Queen is (truly) familiar with a process called "SkirtUpPantsDownBenDoverDontAskQuestions&AdoptAllUnlikelyClaimsThatRubbishFloyd"; which - incredibly - many were extremely familiar with. Apparently the secret aliens mutated their PacQueen subject's DNA at distance and via the above advanced cosmic ray methods, and then - just when it was clear the PacQueens were completely deprived of any ability to scrutinize and/or ask/answer questions - they then swiftly introduced their "chosen member" and also above "PacQueenBumVaporDeposition" process; which of course was readily accepted by all chosen PacQueens without so much of even the slightest squeal/giggle - due, in no small way, to the aforementioned "SkirtUpPantsDownBenDoverDontAskQuestions&AdoptAllUnlikelyClaimsThatRubbishFloyd" process that was also introduced. As a result these PacQueen's have a mutated DNA structure and can only see/hear what they want. You can't pay and/or expect a PacQueen to PacKnowledge the truth/facts and/or answer questions about their wild accusations and claims; all typical signs of a sham. They simply can't do it, as it's not in their DNA. However, they can; hate, overlook, pretend, look the other way, misinterpret, complain, and celebrate all these activities plus hypocrisy, pretty good though. They have that completely down-pat; as the growing list of false claims and unanswered questions that trail in their wake (and also all the absent BumFluff) clearly demonstrates. Still SPF, life is not that tough for us though. After all I would usually pay a $50 entrance fee to a comedy show every 3rd or 4th weekend; whereas here we get the same laughs pretty much for free every single time the words "Floyd", "Pacquaio", "MayPac", "truth", "fact", "substantiation", "boycott", "explain", and "question" are mentioned. Love it !!!! :) :)


-stormcentre :

Maybe all the people who "boycotted" his fight should boycot all topics and threads about him too...
Surely you don't mean follow through on what was said SPF? C'mon man . . . that's asking a lot. Almost as much as expecting the truth and facts to be welcomed open arms. You know - open arms - as if it were a FloydHate factoid that was obviously in need of scrutiny that it will not receive - as much as it also lent itself perfectly to both easy and widespread misinterpretation for "further" purposes. Wanna know something hysterically/hypocritically funny? See post #24? It's author is - amazingly - in the one/same post, calling someone a liar, claiming he needs a fact checker, and also stating that optical illusions are everywhere. Even without his bumbling history and reputation for running and being consistently wrong; it's hard to fathom the true depth of hypocrisy, goofiness, and delusion associated with such a claim. Talk about chasing your tail around a tree without the slightest knowledge that it's you that you're barking at. And that in itself tells you why most that claim they're boycotting Floyd's fights, actually treat their own questionable claims about such as if it were nothing other than a pre-fight PacClaim suggesting all is well and a KO is about to happen. With little regard for the truth. Constantly selectively ignoring/interpreting information and releasing claims you run from when questioned . . . you know . . . it's kind of like saying your TBE and not being it. And that in itself is an observation and relationship, that's interesting, and perhaps also hypocritical, isn't it? Anyway, the fact that it is same cat chasing his tail around the tree, running from the truth, and barking (unsure whether he's a cat or puppy) at himself, as above-mentioned that's both; A) Calling someone a liar, claiming someone needs a fact checker, and also stating that optical illusions are everywhere. B) At the centre of the entire PacLossExcuseFloydHateMovement. Really, constitutes everything else that you need to know about why unchecked and fantastic claims are the order of the day; including those pertaining to supposedly boycotting Floyd's fights. Put simply - and, seriously, this is just so beautifully and elegantly humorous/telling that it's pure gold - you just can't pay and/or expect a PacQueen to PacKnowledge the truth/facts and/or answer questions about their wild accusations and claims; all typical signs of a sham. They can't do it. The "truth", "scrutinise", "think first before claiming", and "explain" genes are - sadly - no longer in their DNA. They were probably there at the start; but not know. It's not their fault either. You see, NostRADAMazz legend has it that these genes have been burnt out by cosmic rays that were fired onto the Earth by aliens from another planet. Secret aliens looking to harvest all our watermelon seeds, cherry juice, and FloydHate to fuel their starships; whom have travelled great distances across the galaxy in their supremely advanced spacecrafts. Spacecrafts that were previously powered by the vitamins and minerals that; A) Not only - amazingly - are the same vitamins/minerals that also cure cervical arthritis and poorly fed brains (yes it's really true!!!); that are now somewhat hard to find . .. due to, no doubt, NostRADAMazz not telling anyone what these vitamins/minerals really are. B) But also secret vitamins/minerals that constitute the very vitamins and minerals that were also previously - by the secretly visiting aliens - nutritionally extracted from the BumFluff of these same truth-rejecting PacQueens by an extra-terrestial called "PacQueenBumVaporDeposition", which itself (whilst sounding like a process that places great faith in claims that probably have no greater value than a fart, and then vigorously defending that misplaced faith by releasing what is nothing more than ever increasing amounts of the same obnoxious gases, actually) worked by the aliens both, (1) recognising that certain PacQueen's weaknesses for lies that suit could easily be exploited and (2) extracting/blending up only those PacQueen's bum-hairs that were suitable and extracted from; B1) Not only the most frigid, non-sensical, fact/truth-rejecting, and temperamental Queens that were susceptible to any factoids that served their interests. B2) But also only those PacQueen's (bum-hairs) that have somehow managed to allow the moonlight to shine in on them continuously for periods of time in excess of 2 days every month - something that apparently can not happen unless the Queen is (truly) familiar with a process called "SkirtUpPantsDownBenDoverDontAskQuestions&AdoptAllUnlikelyClaimsThatRubbishFloyd"; which - incredibly - many were extremely familiar with. Apparently the secret aliens mutated their PacQueen subject's DNA at distance and via the above advanced cosmic ray methods, and then - just when it was clear the PacQueens were completely deprived of any ability to scrutinize and/or ask/answer questions - they then swiftly introduced their "chosen member" and also above "PacQueenBumVaporDeposition" process; which of course was readily accepted by all chosen PacQueens without so much of even the slightest squeal/giggle - due, in no small way, to the aforementioned "SkirtUpPantsDownBenDoverDontAskQuestions&AdoptAllUnlikelyClaimsThatRubbishFloyd" process that was also introduced. As a result these PacQueen's have a mutated DNA structure and can only see/hear what they want. You can't pay and/or expect a PacQueen to PacKnowledge the truth/facts and/or answer questions about their wild accusations and claims; all typical signs of a sham. They simply can't do it, as it's not in their DNA. However, they can; hate, overlook, pretend, look the other way, misinterpret, complain, and celebrate all these activities plus hypocrisy, pretty good though. They have that completely down-pat; as the growing list of false claims and unanswered questions that trail in their wake (and also all the absent BumFluff) clearly demonstrates. Still SPF, life is not that tough for us though. After all I would usually pay a $50 entrance fee to a comedy show every 3rd or 4th weekend; whereas here we get the same laughs pretty much for free every single time the words "Floyd", "Pacquaio", "MayPac", "truth", "fact", "substantiation", "boycott", "explain", and "question" are mentioned. Love it !!!! :) :)


-stormcentre :

Maybe all the people who "boycotted" his fight should boycot all topics and threads about him too...
Surely you don't mean follow through on what was said SPF? C'mon man . . . that's asking a lot. Almost as much as expecting the truth and facts to be welcomed open arms. You know - open arms - as if it were a FloydHate factoid that was obviously in need of scrutiny that it will not receive - as much as it also lent itself perfectly to both easy and widespread misinterpretation for "further" purposes. Wanna know something hysterically/hypocritically funny? See post #24? It's author is - amazingly - in the one/same post, calling someone a liar, claiming he needs a fact checker, and also stating that optical illusions are everywhere. Even without his bumbling history and reputation for running and being consistently wrong; it's hard to fathom the true depth of hypocrisy, goofiness, and delusion associated with such a claim. Talk about chasing your tail around a tree without the slightest knowledge that it's you that you're barking at. And that in itself tells you why most that claim they're boycotting Floyd's fights, actually treat their own questionable claims about such as if it were nothing other than a pre-fight PacClaim suggesting all is well and a KO is about to happen. With little regard for the truth. Constantly selectively ignoring/interpreting information and releasing claims you run from when questioned . . . you know . . . it's kind of like saying your TBE and not being it. And that in itself is an observation and relationship, that's interesting, and perhaps also hypocritical, isn't it? Anyway, the fact that it is same cat chasing his tail around the tree, running from the truth, and barking (unsure whether he's a cat or puppy) at himself, as above-mentioned that's both; A) Calling someone a liar, claiming someone needs a fact checker, and also stating that optical illusions are everywhere. B) At the centre of the entire PacLossExcuseFloydHateMovement. Really, constitutes everything else that you need to know about why unchecked and fantastic claims are the order of the day; including those pertaining to supposedly boycotting Floyd's fights. Put simply - and, seriously, this is just so beautifully and elegantly humorous/telling that it's pure gold - you just can't pay and/or expect a PacQueen to PacKnowledge the truth/facts and/or answer questions about their wild accusations and claims; all typical signs of a sham. They can't do it. The "truth", "scrutinise", "think first before claiming", and "explain" genes are - sadly - no longer in their DNA. They were probably there at the start; but not know. It's not their fault either. You see, NostRADAMazz legend has it that these genes have been burnt out by cosmic rays that were fired onto the Earth by aliens from another planet. Secret aliens looking to harvest all our watermelon seeds, cherry juice, and FloydHate to fuel their starships; whom have travelled great distances across the galaxy in their supremely advanced spacecrafts. Spacecrafts that were previously powered by the vitamins and minerals that; A) Not only - amazingly - are the same vitamins/minerals that also cure cervical arthritis and poorly fed brains (yes it's really true!!!); that are now somewhat hard to find . .. due to, no doubt, NostRADAMazz not telling anyone what these vitamins/minerals really are. B) But also secret vitamins/minerals that constitute the very vitamins and minerals that were also previously - by the secretly visiting aliens - nutritionally extracted from the BumFluff of these same truth-rejecting PacQueens by an extra-terrestial process called "PacQueenBumVaporDeposition", which itself (whilst sounding like a process that places great faith in claims that probably have no greater value than a fart, and then vigorously defending that misplaced faith by releasing what is nothing more than ever increasing amounts of the same obnoxious gases, actually) worked by the aliens both, (1) recognising that certain PacQueen's weaknesses for lies that suit could easily be exploited and (2) extracting/blending up only those PacQueen's bum-hairs that were suitable and extracted from; B1) Not only the most frigid, non-sensical, fact/truth-rejecting, and temperamental Queens that were susceptible to any factoids that served their interests. B2) But also only those PacQueen's (bum-hairs) that have somehow managed to allow the moonlight to shine in on them continuously for periods of time in excess of 2 days every month - something that apparently can not happen unless the Queen is (truly) familiar with a process called "SkirtUpPantsDownBenDoverDontAskQuestions&AdoptAllUnlikelyClaimsThatRubbishFloyd"; which - incredibly - many were extremely familiar with. Apparently the secret aliens mutated their PacQueen subject's DNA at distance and via the above advanced cosmic ray methods, and then - just when it was clear the PacQueens were completely deprived of any ability to scrutinize and/or ask/answer questions - they then swiftly introduced their "chosen member" and also above "PacQueenBumVaporDeposition" process; which of course was readily accepted by all chosen PacQueens without so much of even the slightest squeal/giggle - due, in no small way, to the aforementioned "SkirtUpPantsDownBenDoverDontAskQuestions&AdoptAllUnlikelyClaimsThatRubbishFloyd" process that was also introduced. As a result these PacQueen's have a mutated DNA structure and can only see/hear what they want. You can't pay and/or expect a PacQueen to PacKnowledge the truth/facts and/or answer questions about their wild accusations and claims; all typical signs of a sham. They simply can't do it, as it's not in their DNA. However, they can; hate, overlook, pretend, look the other way, misinterpret, complain, and celebrate all these activities plus hypocrisy, pretty good though. They have that completely down-pat; as the growing list of false claims and unanswered questions that trail in their wake (and also all the absent BumFluff) clearly demonstrates. Still SPF, life is not that tough for us though. After all I would usually pay a $50 entrance fee to a comedy show every 3rd or 4th weekend; whereas here we get the same laughs pretty much for free every single time the words "Floyd", "Pacquaio", "MayPac", "truth", "fact", "substantiation", "boycott", "explain", and "question" are mentioned. Love it !!!! :) :)


-amayseng :

I thoroughly enjoyed the entire card... Badou Jack surprised me. Groves beat Degale and gave Froch all he could handle in their first meeting so it seemed a given that Groves would steam roll the confident money team member.... But Jack scored a knockdown early and maintained a potent body assault throughout the 12 rounds. Bone crunching action action all the way as Groves refused to go away quietly. Turns out the knockdown proved to be the deciding factor at the conclusion of the fight After several rounds of Floyd vs Berto, I was wondering if I was watching the right fight. Berto spent the first few rounds overcoming his awe of Mayweather and seemingly coming to grasp with the scale and scope of the event. After being screamed at by Virgil and given several scathing tongue lashings between rounds, Berto endeavored to pull his head out of his arse and go to work. Virgil gave little technical advise,... for what when Berto was struggling to even engage Mayweather? He simply preached, exhorted and cajoled Berto to fight and give it everything he's got, much like a battleship captain whose ship had sustained a torpedo hit amid ship, and even though the ship was struggling to stay afloat, its valiant crew would take as many of the enemy with them before seeking solace in their final resting place beneath the waves. by round 4 Berto was unplugged, his initial tentative demeanor was supplanted by his warrior spirit and something in Berto's mind became unhinged,... and it looked as though Berto was never coming back. Berto and Floyed mauled and brawled,...slugged and traded, swapped uppercuts and body shots in a wild action packed brawl that reminded me of what a fight between Bruce Lee and John Wayne would look like, even though Wayne had a pair of cojones the size of Texas, there was no way he was ever going to beat Lee. The fight action became so bodacious that I actually broke out laughing as Floyd broke out moves and showed flashes of himself we had not seen since his "Pretty Boy" days, ... Floyd hit Berto so hard that he complained to his corner briefly that he hurt his left hand....even the crowd applauded and cheered the ending of most rounds. I can honestly say i was highly entertained The perfect fight with which to end a fairytale like career. Floyd will be missed... just be smart enough to stay retired.
I did not see Berto land one right hand to the head, or did he and my stream was of poor quality. I am being serious. He was so out gunned it was sickening.


-amayseng :

Maybe all the people who "boycotted" his fight should boycot all topics and threads about him too...
boycott paying 80$ to watch Floyd fight a guy most dont rank in the top 20 as an effort to help the sport. Maybe you can stop telling grown adult men what to talk about. how about that?


-brownsugar :

I did not see Berto land one right hand to the head, or did he and my stream was of poor quality. I am being serious. He was so out gunned it was sickening.
Amayseng Berto landed 82 punches according to compubox, if you throw away the near misses, butter punches and arm punches in the clinches you would still have at least 50 clean shots. Floyd does a good job of pretending he didnt feel a lot of the shots he gets hit with, but Berto did more than just "touch" Floyd. I thought it was a very fun fight once Berto went into berserker mode. Can wait to catch the replay actually.


-SouthPawFlo :

I personally don't know everyone's personal financial situation, but I paid a whole lot more than $80 to go to the fight, and I was actually pleased with the entire card... I didn't expect Badou to win but he did, Ishe got outclassed like I expected the Martinez and Salido fight was a war and Mayweather and Berto was definitely entertaining.. Mayweather engaged and traded a lot more than usual and I was throwing hard shots... I personally don't think there's anybody else at 147 who would win 10-12rds against the Virgil Hill trained Berto other than Mayweather... Berto has speed, power and Determination and he can compete with everyone else in the division other than Mayweather.. I wanna see who Haymon brings him back against in December-January, it's some interesting fights for Berto out there: Berto-Guerrero 2 Berto-Maidana Berto-Danny G Berto-Broner Sign me up for any of those fights


-Radam G :

I personally don't know everyone's personal financial situation, but I paid a whole lot more than $80 to go to the fight, and I was actually pleased with the entire card... I didn't expect Badou to win but he did, Ishe got outclassed like I expected the Martinez and Salido fight was a war and Mayweather and Berto was definitely entertaining.. Mayweather engaged and traded a lot more than usual and I was throwing hard shots... I personally don't think there's anybody else at 147 who would win 10-12rds against the Virgil Hill trained Berto other than Mayweather... Berto has speed, power and Determination and he can compete with everyone else in the division other than Mayweather.. I wanna see who Haymon brings him back against in December-January, it's some interesting fights for Berto out there: Berto-Guerrero 2 Berto-Maidana Berto-Danny G Berto-Broner Sign me up for any of those fights
You have a lot of love for Money May. If I would have been in the states, I would have gotten a complimentary ticket. And still would not have gone. No hate! For me about Money May, the thrill is gone. There was a time that I would not miss a live Money May scrap. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Berto - if not attacking Floyd more (I actually think he did) - actually also took more risks than Pac did when in with Floyd. Berto also hit Floyd in the head with a right hand too; contrary to what someone else said in an above post. So, there's a few more reasons . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22590-Berto-worse-than-I-thought-Berto-to-blame-of-Hunter&p=87728&viewfull=1#post87728 Than already provided above that explains how Berto - in some ways - both highlighted and embarrassed both Pacquaio and also what was not said about him in relation to how he's really responsible for the "boring", "ineffective", and "lackluster" MayPac fight. Happy to review the Berto V Mayweather video if anyone disagrees and wants to have fun. :) Anyway, all these "interesting" claims got "Storm" to ask his ghost writing publicist to put together . . . . . "A brief history of TSS's forum's "uncontrolled PacQueenLossExcuseMovement" and its special breed of "neo-NostRADAMazz like Nazi tribalism". Here . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87800&posted=1#post87800 It's all about choice, good fun, jiving, and of course bulljiving. Enjoy . :) :)


-stormcentre :

Berto - if not attacking Floyd more (I actually think he did) - actually also took more risks than Pac did when in with Floyd. Berto also hit Floyd in the head with a right hand too; contrary to what someone else said in an above post. So, there's a few more reasons . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22590-Berto-worse-than-I-thought-Berto-to-blame-of-Hunter&p=87728&viewfull=1#post87728 Than already provided above that explains how Berto - in some ways - both highlighted and embarrassed both Pacquaio and also what was not said about him in relation to how he's really responsible for the "boring", "ineffective", and "lackluster" MayPac fight. Happy to review the Berto V Mayweather video if anyone disagrees and wants to have fun. :) Anyway, all these "interesting" claims got "Storm" to ask his ghost writing publicist to put together . . . . . "A brief history of TSS's forum's "uncontrolled PacQueenLossExcuseMovement" and its special breed of "neo-NostRADAMazz like Nazi tribalism". Here . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&viewfull=1#post87807 It's all about choice, good fun, jiving, and of course bulljiving. Enjoy . :) :)


-stormcentre :

Berto - if not attacking Floyd more (I actually think he did) - actually also took more risks than Pac did when in with Floyd. Berto also hit Floyd in the head with a right hand too; contrary to what someone else said in an above post. So, there's a few more reasons . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22590-Berto-worse-than-I-thought-Berto-to-blame-of-Hunter&p=87728&viewfull=1#post87728 Than already provided above that explains how Berto - in some ways - both highlighted and embarrassed both Pacquaio and also what was not said about him in relation to how he's really responsible for the "boring", "ineffective", and "lackluster" MayPac fight. Happy to review the Berto V Mayweather video if anyone disagrees and wants to have fun. :) Anyway, all these "interesting" claims got "Storm" to ask his ghost writing publicist to put together . . . . . "A brief history of TSS's forum's "uncontrolled PacQueenLossExcuseMovement" and its special breed of "neo-NostRADAMazz like Nazi tribalism". Here . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87841&viewfull=1#post87841 It's all about choice, good fun, jiving, and of course bulljiving. Enjoy . :) :)


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

And for you and those wise/brave words my friend; listen and enjoy this beautiful musical masterpiece. It (and LTN) really is something special.
Finally, SRD, I never knew Bonds was a golden gloves fighter. Wicked. :) :)
What's up Storm? The golden glover comment was in regards to Bonds' superb ability as a outfielder in baseball. As far as Mayweather is concerned, there are far too many people that hate on Mayweather and use double standards to judge him. I agree with many of your assessments, keep the post coming!


-stormcentre :

What's up Storm? The golden glover comment was in regards to Bonds' superb ability as a outfielder in baseball. As far as Mayweather is concerned, there are far too many people that hate on Mayweather and use double standards to judge him. I agree with many of your assessments, keep the post coming!
Thanks man. Appreciate your contributions too - did so even before the "PacQueensWithOutProtectionTakeHauserGateOnFirstDateSwallow&ThenPretendFictionIsFact" was on our doorstep. Naughty I know. However, in my humble opinion, that’s not quite as bad as trying to destroy someone’s career because, (a) you were locked out of the presser party, and (b) you know it will endear you to Pacquaio and team, though. Glad you cleared the Bond's comment up, as I felt as if I would have, at least, heard of it if Barry was previously a boxer. Talking of double standards . . . . Of course I agree. But, personally it don't mean nothing to me whether Floyd or Pac has been doping or not. Like my life changes either way. But - since Floyd (is an utterly brilliant/skilled boxer that did things his way and in a manner that many fans willingly accepted from other boxers when similar things were done through a promotional layer, and) proved many, many people (including those that were PacQueenCheerLeaders) wrong with the MayPac fight, after which Pacquaio then subsequently fielded many writs over both his claims/fraud . . . . . . . It’s given rise to an overall level of Queening, vindictiveness, and hating (directed towards {even if you accept that he cherry picked some opponents; as Pacquaio has} one of the best and most skillful modern day boxers ever) that’s almost - that is, if it were not for the obvious extent to which the same people whom author the hate, run from questions, the truth, and all the uncomfortable but related issues to both Floyd and Pacquaio - as unequalled as it obviously stems from how wrong they got MayPac when they all used the preMayPac era as a means to go over the top with predictions and - if not outeight FloydHate and embarrass themselves - portray and celebrate their unnecessarily strong dislike for a guy that probably has no more skeletons in his boxing closet than Pacquaio. That’s the origin of it all. But, the sentiment/movement here (of just trying to stain Floyd's career, retirement, and last fight, with anything - including; loose claims, selective perception, slander, hypocrisy, negative information that’s *far, far less reliable than that currently existing about Pacquaio, willful gullibility, farm animal naivety, goofy gooning, Queening, and the PacLyingList goes on . . . . ) is akin to publicly enjoying trampling on someone's grave. And that's even if it were not coming from some writers, and forum sections that; A) Are also - incredibly - trying to (with the very same style of quickly assembled and unchecked facts they have previously thrown their arms up in the air about; but only then because the unchecked facts didn't suit) convince us that Pac is clean and uninvolved with any of the matters that Floyd is (clearly) being targeted with (by Hauser). B) Weren't also making the same PacPuppy and/or PacQueenDonkey misinterpretation/mistakes over and over again as they refuse to look at the bigger picture. C) Refuse to back up almost all of their claims, not even when all it involves is a simple review of a fight video - that exists on the very same website that a PacQueen regularly drops URL links from that - in a fools gold type of way - he mistakenly believes support his case. D) you simply can’t pay to acknowledge all the issues; as I have offered rewards for Queens, Donkeys, Puppies, and other sensible boxing lovers to look at all the facts. Hilarious eh? I know for a fact - because they privately email me and support what I do here not just with this matter, but also the wider issues - that there are many boxing writers and others in the industry out there that think what Hauser is doing here is a really cheap shot * And, personally I think that already shows not only by how Hauser and Queens skip regularly fail to meaningfully acknowledge all the hard considerations/questions as they at the same time celebrate this clearly agenda driven, subjective, and evasive approach and all it’s half baked “results” - but also by the quality of the audience Hauser fools with these compromised “investigations” that are - for the most part - reliant upon an approach that appears to subscribe to “cherry picking” information that suits Hauser’s and Queens preferred and predetermined outcomes; in a manner that the same PacQueens are up in arms about, but only if it - respectively - relates to Floyd and PBC. PacQueenHypocrisy. The good thing is, on a daily basis, I get a real laugh at how all this laughable stuff is just pushed out, published, accepted, and the rigorously defended (with more effort than it would take to read/acknowledge all the facts); like it’s the gospel - all whilst you still can’t drag a Donkey to the water of truth and make him drink it. These cats don’t mind 700 paragraph publications when it slags Floyd off and gives them a cardboard dais from which to stand on and Hee Haw; but provide the same amount of information to show the substance of their wet dream and it’s “oh too much”. Even with numbered paragraphs, lots of spaces, and references. And this is the real funny thing SRD; what this means is that the PacQueens, Donkeys, Puppies, Pretenders, WitchDoctors, Magicians, Secret Potion Mixers, International “Fast-Handed&Puncher-Making” WaterMelon Seed Trafficers, CherryJuiceLaboratoryOwners, 30000TimesPerSecondCirculationPEDexperts, FloydHatePropagandists, TribalVoodooNazisits, NostRADAMasses, FakeForumBlockers, EquivocationExperts, and MisconceivedMayPacPredictors, all seem to prefer digesting misinformation that lends itself to misinterpretation, PacQueenCheerLeading, FloydHating, hypocrisy, and farm animal naivety. Aside from this being hilarious and constituting the majority of those whom are willingly prepared to take Hauser up the spritzeinstiner without protection/checking; that’s as Amayseng as it clearly defines that Hauser - with these frivolous and vexatious pies - certainly knows his target Queen market. Who have you got for; A) 3G V Lemieux. B) Canelo V Cotto. Cheers,
Storm. :) :)


-stormcentre :

What's up Storm? The golden glover comment was in regards to Bonds' superb ability as a outfielder in baseball. As far as Mayweather is concerned, there are far too many people that hate on Mayweather and use double standards to judge him. I agree with many of your assessments, keep the post coming!
Thanks man. Appreciate your contributions too - did so even before the "PacQueensWithOutProtectionTakeHauserGateOnFirstDateSwallow&ThenPretendFictionIsFact" was on our doorstep. Naughty I know. However, in my humble opinion, that’s not quite as bad as trying to destroy someone’s career because, (a) you were locked out of the presser party, and (b) you know it will endear you to Pacquaio and team, though. Glad you cleared the Bond's comment up, as I felt as if I would have, at least, heard of it if Barry was previously a boxer. Talking of double standards . . . . Of course I agree. But, personally it don't mean nothing to me whether Floyd or Pac has been doping or not. Like my life changes either way. But - since Floyd (is an utterly brilliant/skilled boxer that did things his way and in a manner that many fans willingly accepted from other boxers when similar things were done through a promotional layer, and) proved many, many people (including those that were PacQueenCheerLeaders) wrong with the MayPac fight, after which Pacquaio then subsequently fielded many writs over both his claims/fraud . . . . . . . It’s given rise to an overall level of Queening, vindictiveness, and hating (directed towards {even if you accept that he cherry picked some opponents; as Pacquaio has} one of the best and most skillful modern day boxers ever) that’s almost - that is, if it were not for the obvious extent to which the same people whom author the hate, run from questions, the truth, and all the uncomfortable but related issues to both Floyd and Pacquaio - as unequalled as it obviously stems from how wrong they got MayPac when they all used the preMayPac era as a means to go over the top with predictions and - if not outeight FloydHate and embarrass themselves - portray and celebrate their unnecessarily strong dislike for a guy that probably has no more skeletons in his boxing closet than Pacquaio. That’s the origin of it all. But, the sentiment/movement here (of just trying to stain Floyd's career, retirement, and last fight, with anything - including; loose claims, selective perception, slander, hypocrisy, negative information that’s *far, far less reliable than that currently existing about Pacquaio, willful gullibility, farm animal naivety, goofy gooning, Queening, and the PacLyingList goes on . . . . ) is akin to publicly enjoying trampling on someone's grave. And that's even if it were not coming from some writers, and forum sections that; A) Are also - incredibly - trying to (with the very same style of quickly assembled and unchecked facts they have previously thrown their arms up in the air about; but only then because the unchecked facts didn't suit) convince us that Pac is clean and uninvolved with any of the matters that Floyd is (clearly) being targeted with (by Hauser). B) Weren't also making the same PacPuppy and/or PacQueenDonkey misinterpretation/mistakes over and over again as they refuse to look at the bigger picture. C) Refuse to back up almost all of their claims, not even when all it involves is a simple review of a fight video - that exists on the very same website that a PacQueen regularly drops URL links from that - in a fools gold type of way - he mistakenly believes support his case. D) you simply can’t pay to acknowledge all the issues; as I have offered rewards for Queens, Donkeys, Puppies, and other sensible boxing lovers to look at all the facts. Hilarious eh? I know for a fact - because they privately email me and support what I do here not just with this matter, but also the wider issues - that there are many boxing writers and others in the industry out there that think what Hauser is doing here is a really cheap shot * And, personally I think that already shows not only by how Hauser and Queens skip regularly fail to meaningfully acknowledge all the hard considerations/questions as they at the same time celebrate this clearly agenda driven, subjective, and evasive approach and all it’s half baked “results” - but also by the quality of the audience Hauser fools with these compromised “investigations” that are - for the most part - reliant upon an approach that appears to subscribe to “cherry picking” information that suits Hauser’s and Queens preferred and predetermined outcomes; in a manner that the same PacQueens are up in arms about, but only if it - respectively - relates to Floyd and PBC. PacQueenHypocrisy. The good thing is, on a daily basis, I get a real laugh at how all this laughable stuff is just pushed out, published, accepted, and the rigorously defended (with more effort than it would take to read/acknowledge all the facts); like it’s the gospel - all whilst you still can’t drag a Donkey to the water of truth and make him drink it. These cats don’t mind 700 paragraph publications when it slags Floyd off and gives them a cardboard dais from which to stand on and Hee Haw; but provide the same amount of information to show the substance of their wet dream and it’s “oh too much”. Even with numbered paragraphs, lots of spaces, and references. And this is the real funny thing SRD; what this means is that the PacQueens, Donkeys, Puppies, Pretenders, WitchDoctors, Magicians, Secret Potion Mixers, International “Fast-Handed&Puncher-Making” WaterMelon Seed Trafficers, CherryJuiceLaboratoryOwners, 30000TimesPerSecondCirculationPEDexperts, FloydHatePropagandists, TribalVoodooNazisits, NostRADAMasses, FakeForumBlockers, EquivocationExperts, and MisconceivedMayPacPredictors, all seem to prefer digesting misinformation that lends itself to misinterpretation, PacQueenCheerLeading, FloydHating, hypocrisy, and farm animal naivety. Aside from this being hilarious and constituting the majority of those whom are willingly prepared to take Hauser up the spritzeinstiner without protection/checking; that’s as Amayseng as it clearly defines that Hauser - with these frivolous and vexatious pies - certainly knows his target Queen market. Who have you got for; A) 3G V Lemieux. B) Canelo V Cotto. Cheers,
Storm. :) :)
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&highlight=Nazi+tribal#post87807


-stormcentre :

What's up Storm? The golden glover comment was in regards to Bonds' superb ability as a outfielder in baseball. As far as Mayweather is concerned, there are far too many people that hate on Mayweather and use double standards to judge him. I agree with many of your assessments, keep the post coming!
Thanks man. Appreciate your contributions too - did so even before the "PacQueensWithOutProtectionTakeHauserGateOnFirstDateSwallow&ThenPretendFictionIsFact" was on our doorstep. Naughty I know. However, in my humble opinion, that’s not quite as bad as trying to destroy someone’s career because, (a) you were locked out of the presser party, and (b) you know it will endear you to Pacquaio and team, though. Glad you cleared the Bond's comment up, as I felt as if I would have, at least, heard of it if Barry was previously a boxer. Talking of double standards . . . . Of course I agree. But, personally it don't mean nothing to me whether Floyd or Pac has been doping or not. Like my life changes either way. But - since Floyd (is an utterly brilliant/skilled boxer that did things his way and in a manner that many fans willingly accepted from other boxers when similar things were done through a promotional layer, and) proved many, many people (including those that were PacQueenCheerLeaders) wrong with the MayPac fight, after which Pacquaio then subsequently fielded many writs over both his claims/fraud . . . . . . . It’s given rise to an overall level of Queening, vindictiveness, and hating (directed towards {even if you accept that he cherry picked some opponents; as Pacquaio has} one of the best and most skillful modern day boxers ever) that’s almost - that is, if it were not for the obvious extent to which the same people whom author the hate, run from questions, the truth, and flee from all the uncomfortable but related issues to both Floyd and Pacquaio - as unequalled as it obviously stems from how wrong they got MayPac in the first place when they all used the preMayPac era as a means to go way over the top with wild predictions and - if not outright FloydHate to such an extent that they embarrassed themselves, then - portraying and celebrating their unnecessarily (and largely baseless) strong dislike for a guy . . . that probably has no more skeletons in his boxing closet than Pacquaio. That’s the origin of it all. But, the sentiment/movement here (of just trying to stain Floyd's career, retirement, and last fight, with anything - including; loose claims, selective perception, slander, hypocrisy, willful gullibility, farm animal naivety, goofy gooning, Queening, and negative information that’s *far, far less reliable than that currently existing about Pacquaio . . . . and the PacLyingList goes on . . . . ) really is akin to publicly enjoying trampling on someone's career/grave. And that's even if it were not coming from some writers, and forum sections that; A) Are also - incredibly - trying to (with the very same style of quickly assembled and unchecked facts they have previously thrown their arms up in the air about; but only then because the unchecked facts didn't suit) convince us that Pac is clean and uninvolved with any of the matters that Floyd is (clearly) being targeted with (by Hauser). B) Weren't also making the same PacPuppy and/or PacQueenDonkey misinterpretation/mistakes over and over again as they refuse to look at the bigger picture. C) Refuse to back up almost all of their claims, not even when all it involves is a simple review of a fight video - that exists on the very same website that a PacQueen regularly drops URL links from that - in a fools gold type of way - he mistakenly believes support his case. D) You simply can’t pay to acknowledge all the issues; as here . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22561-Fox-Reporter-Tells-Floyd-He-s-Not-In-All-Time-Top-5&p=87736&viewfull=1#post87736 I have clearly offered rewards for Queens, Donkeys, Puppies, and other sensible boxing lovers to look at all the facts and keep it Snoop Doggy Dog Real. But, sadly there are no takers; unlike what Hauser gets. :) Hilarious eh? I know for a fact - because they privately email me with support for what I do here, not just with this matter, but also the wider and more humorous issues - that there are several boxing writers and others within the industry out there, that actually think what Hauser is doing here is a really, really, cheap shot. * And, personally I think that already shows; Not only by how Hauser and Queens regularly skip over and fail to meaningfully acknowledge all the hard considerations/questions, as they - at the same time - openly celebrate Hauser's clearly agenda driven, subjective, evasive, and questionable journalistic approach and all it’s half baked “results”. But also by the quality of the (largely Queening) audience that Hauser fools with these compromised “investigations” that are - for the most part - reliant upon an approach that appears to subscribe to “cherry picking” information that suits Hauser’s and Queens preferred and predetermined outcomes; in a manner that the same PacQueens would usually be (hypocritically) up in arms about - but only if it - respectively - related to Floyd (cherry picking) and the PBC (preferred and predetermined outcomes). PacQueenHypocrisy? DonkeyMagic? Farm Animal Naivety? Willful Gullibility? Take your pick. You can choose all. :) The good thing is that - on a daily basis - I get a real laugh at how all this bias and laughable stuff is just pushed out, easily published, easily accepted (like it’s the gospel), and then (once it's obvious the Queens have swallowed another porky pie) vehemently and rigorously defended - all with far, far more effort than it would take for Queens to simply read/acknowledge all the facts before hand. All whilst you still can’t pay or drag a thirsty Donkey to the water of truth and make him drink it. These cats don’t mind 300 paragraph publications so long as it slags Floyd off and gives them a frail cardboard dais from which to stand upon and loudly Hee Haw; but provide the same amount of information to show the substance of their wet dream, and it’s “oh too much” - time to run and pretend I don't see the questions about my actions. And that's even when
Storm numbers the paragraphs, and provides lots of spaces, rewards, and references, for them. And this is the real funny thing SRD. What this all means is that - the PacQueens, Donkeys, Puppies, Pretenders, WitchDoctors, Magicians, Secret Potion Mixers, International “Fast-Handed&Puncher-Making” WaterMelon Seed Trafficers, BackYardCherryJuiceLaboratoryOwners, 30000TimesPerSecondCirculationMaxRelaxationPEDexperts, E&HHOFWinners, FloydHatePropagandists, TribalVoodooNazisits, NostRADAMasses, FakeForumBlockers, EquivocationExperts, and all the MisconceivedMayPacPredictors - all seem to prefer digesting misinformation that lends itself to misinterpretation, PacQueenCheerLeading, FloydHating, hypocrisy, and Farm Animal Naivety. Because, I suspect; 1) It's easier than comprehending all the related information to complex matters. 2) Knee jerk reactions - particularly those that relieve of the urgent need to grandstand, hate, and self promote - are a priority; over point 1. 3) If it all goes South and it becomes obvious misplaced faith was the only order of the day, it's easy to blame the misinformation that lent itself to misinterpretation. Some of these cats have hardly got anything right since they believed and cheered for all the lies that Pacquaio is now being sued for; yet the lesson about Queening (and for some lying) is still not learned. Now, aside from this being hilarious and also defining the majority of those whom are willingly prepared to take Hauser right up their "spritzeinstiner" without any protection and/or checking; that’s as Amayseng as it clearly defines that Hauser - with these frivolous and vexatious pieces he is writing - certainly has one thing right. He sure knows his gullible target Queen market. :) Moving on . . . . Who have you got for; A) 3G V Lemieux. B) Canelo V Cotto. Cheers,
Storm. :)
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22532-Hauser-Fires-At-USADA-and-Floyd-USADA-Then-Floyd-Respond&p=87807&highlight=Nazi+tribal#post87807


-brownsugar :

Silk Dezza = smooth groove.


-stormcentre :

Silk Dezza = smooth groove.
Cheers. And since I know you like BG&K . . . . try this. It's probably one of my favorites of theirs.
Lovely use of the keyboards/synthesizer. :) :) :)