All ACCESS Episode 2 Recap: Floyd Insists He Will Retire, Berto Says He’s Hungrier Than Ever

Time for another All Access, or, at least, access selected for maximum impact in attempting to hype up the severe counter-climactic fight which is to unfold Sept. 12, Mayweather vs. Berto, at the MGM in Vegas. No knock there, anything after #MayPac is a back track…

This was the second installment in this post #MayPac era, which means that everyone who took in the buildup and the tear-down of May 2 sees everything Mayweather and Pacman do, arguably, through a changed set of eyes.

Which means after being told we’d see the Fight of the Century, and instead seeing a runaway Mayweather win–runaway not intended pun-nily–we’re most of us not inclined to watch promo shows or listen to pronouncements without first running them a cyncism (realism?) filter.

So when people hear, as we did in this second ep, that Floyd will retire after Sept. 12, they react maybe differently than they would have a year ago. They have bought a car, it was a lemon, and now the salesguy is back at them, asking them to give him another shot.

Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me again, and I’m the fool…

Now, that’s not in everyone’s head. Many savvy folk didn’t listen to a lot of the hype leading to May 2; they know Floyd is risk averse, wouldn’t turn into Tyson, would still be an avoid contact first sort of pugilist. They were the wise ones…But it’s all the other ones who will need to be convinced to tune in again.

To kick off ep 2, on SHOWTIME, we saw Floyd working out. Berto says he deserves the opp, and then Floyd brags. Yep, hard to re-invent a wheel, for sure..

It’s all recap, from ep 1…or maybe we’ve just already heard all this in the last few weeks, since Berto got the gig, it’s hard to recall.

A narrator tells us Floyd has a new toy. It’s a car, fastest in the world, one of only two made…sells for $4.8 mill or so.

Some of us yawn, others ahhh, and say he’s earned every cent. None talk about him being in a challenging fight Sept. 12…

Floyd is in the gym, throwing weights…He says he’ll send Berto back to Haiti if he acts crazy, that Berto looks up to him. He hands out some cash to a kid, then oversees tape over Berto’s eyes on a poster in his gym.

He gets his hair cut and talks to the muscle dude who sparred and got stopped right away in ep 1. Muscle guy says he will do it again and people laugh at him..

Next up, we see Floyd at a club. He chews gum, takes in the scene, makes ladies chuckle. It is 3:25 AM, and keeps chugging, till after 5. He showers in his bathing trunks and a gal soaps his back. He calls Berto a “million dollar fighter,” dissing him, while in a whirpool. “They wanna know if I’m retiring? Absolutely,” he promises.

Berto, though, is not thinking exit. he’s thinking upset. Massive proportions it would be. President of Haiti he’d be. Daddy Berto shows up; he was a wrassler, and MMAer, early on. Andre is much about Haiti, where both parents came from. We see him helping during the huge quake. Good, positive stuff, people helping people…

Then, Floyd working out. He says he could train himself, but him Roger and Sr work as a team. Roger is not one hundred percent, though, the fighter says. “His memory has went away a lot, from getting hit with big shots in fights..,” says Floyd. Nothing cool about getting hit, says Floyd. He disses the Rope A Dope. The name of the game is hit, and not get hit, he iterates. He wants to leave with a sharp mind, he notes.

Next up, Berto stretches. He says he took stuff for granted, and went off the rails, though, against Jesus Soto Karass; he injured his right shoulder, tore it. So he used the left, to his immense credit. He lost in round 12, by TKO; but new trainer Virgil Hunter said that told him Berto could do some good things. He had shoulder surgery and then had to to evaluate his purpose, question it. He rehabbed for nine months and won his next two. “I went through some s–t, but everything is coming back full circle now,” he says.

The Mayweather Boxing Club is seen; local kids get backpacks and pizza. He could throw in a curveball, toss $20,000 in cash in one or two, next year, spice things up..

Go to school, get good grades, they are told. Then back to work…We see Tank Davis bang in sparring…and little ones…like Cashflow Diaz, age 12. Floyd says he will promote hard after fighting ends….

To follow, we see him sparring, usually verboten. He gets grilled, about retiring. People are seeing through those new eyes, they doubt. He insists he will exit. We are told that Berto has lost, but is the tougher for it. He insists he will press the action come Sept. 12. End show…

The last All Access runs next Friday, 5:45 PM ET.

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COMMENTS

-stormcentre :

Yep, the AA shows and that formula they use for Floyd is certainly starting to get a little tired out. There wasn't much new in this one. Floyd's clearly getting tired of doing them too. At least in the first episode we got to see one of Floyd's muscle men getting dropped/stopped in his first foray into both a real sport and sparring. In the second episode we got to see him try and convince Floyd he was still able to continue. :) :)


-michigan400 :

Oh so he tore his shoulder before the Soto fight and is using that as an excuse. Interesting that nobody is demanding to see mri or a doctor's note to back that wild claim up. LMAO! ! Just joking! Im not really interested.


-vinnieq :

I liked the Soto Karass coverage.. And the Haiti story.. Floyd has his persona to counteract his less exciting boxing style. Fine.. But now, they need to counteract his repetitive nature.. with no repeitive BS in every show..


-stormcentre :

Oh so he tore his shoulder before the Soto fight and is using that as an excuse. Interesting that nobody is demanding to see mri or a doctor's note to back that wild claim up. LMAO! ! Just joking! Im not really interested.
Now, if I was joking (too - just like you :) ) I'd probably say . . . A) Something like . . . . . . .""You must love walking in with that "ready", "fire", "aim" philosophy, and then - once it's shown to let you down again - rinsing and repeating."" B) Or, something like . . . . . "There's no need to ask for an MRI from Berto yet, as; 1) He has transparently announced the "injury" "before" the fight. 2) He has not (yet) performed badly and in complete contrast to what he and his trainer have brashly claimed, and then used it as an excuse. 3) He has not (yet) lost and then used it as an excuse. 4) He is yet to fraudulently populate an NSAC form only hours before the fight and use that as a means of getting an "injection" just; 4i) before both the fight. 4ii) after the most stringent PED testing he has experienced, and previously rejected." But since I'm not joking like that, and I know you never jump in before thinking, I won't say those things; all I will say is. Their situations are different. And, I have $100.00 that says Berto - unless it is patently obvious that he has sustained an injury as it was with his Soto-Karass fight - will not use his shoulder (which he has not kept a secret before the fight) as an excuse for any loss/injection that he may experience and/or require. Love your stuff Michigan. And, glad to see you're still thinking of me and reading my work. PS: who do you have Canelo or Cotto, and why? :) :) :)


-stormcentre :

Oh so he tore his shoulder before the Soto fight and is using that as an excuse. Interesting that nobody is demanding to see mri or a doctor's note to back that wild claim up. LMAO! ! Just joking! Im not really interested.
Now, if I was joking (too - just like you :) ) I'd probably say . . . A) Something like . . . . . . .""You must love walking in with that "ready", "fire", "aim" philosophy, and then - once it's shown to let you down again - rinsing and repeating."" B) Or, something like . . . . . ""There's no need to ask for an MRI from Berto yet, as; 1) He has transparently announced the "injury" "before" the fight. 2) He has not (yet) performed badly and in complete contrast to what he and his trainer have brashly claimed, and then used it as an excuse. 3) He has not (yet) lost and then used it as an excuse. 4) He is yet to fraudulently populate an NSAC form only hours before the fight and use that as a means of getting an "injection" just; 4i) before both the fight. 4ii) after the most stringent PED testing he has experienced, and previously rejected." " But since I'm not joking like that, and I know you never jump in before thinking, I won't say those things; all I will say is. Their situations are different. And, I have $100.00 that says Berto - unless it is patently obvious that he has sustained an injury as it was with his Soto-Karass fight - will not use his shoulder (which he has not kept a secret before the fight) as an excuse for any loss/injection that he may experience and/or require. Love your stuff Michigan. And, glad to see you're still thinking of me and reading my work. PS: who do you have Canelo or Cotto, and why? :) :) :)


-brownsugar :

Berto comes off as a the likeable, humble, kid next door. Floyd is the center piece of his own self serving universe that he created by virture of his amazing skill and deep seated obsession to control his own destiny. This man dedicated 80% of his waking life to feed the desire of those who either appreciated his talent of hated him for having the audacity to flaunt his obsenely amazing embarrassment of riches. Every time I see Floyd's gym, my free testosterone count goes up. Most of the readers on this site used to participate in sports on some level. Some of you still do on a very high level. There isn't much on earth that can compare with the joy and comradarie of gathering with team mates at the gym while you compete, compare, and drive yourself to the limit in preparation of the next battle. Floyd has continuously infused his gym with new talent for the last two decades until it has become the mecca of boxing. Talent from all over the world drops in on a regular basis to test themselves. Floyd's gym is like paradise to those who understand their purpose as a fighter. And the culture won't change after he hangs up his gloves. I thought this show showcased the best of Floyd and Berto. Their differences were illustrated with top notch production values yet the show had the feel of final family reunion... I'm going to enjoy watching the fight. .. I'm going to miss Floyd in the ring.


-stormcentre :

Tell you what if you have a look at some of the moves and punches Berto laid on Jesus Soto-Karass (before Berto's shoulder tore); in the very least he looked pretty dynamic and dangerous. Personally, (in the AA shows) I'd like to see more of Floyd's sparring sessions - the ones against good fighters; that you assume must take place to get him in shape. :)


-Radam G :

Wow! Lil Floyd makes his Uncle Roger look pathetic when the uncle is simply on a bad diet and has arthritis of the cranium. This syet can easily be fixed with the right foods, minerals and vitamins. Don't believe the hypes and exaggeration about punch drunkness. Uncle Roger has a blood sugar problem along with his arthritis of the cranium. People get that syet all the time, but are ignorant to it. Uncles Roger doesn't feed his brain correctly, which is closer to his big-@$$ mouth than his big-@$$ stomach that he only feeds syet foods, sodas and candies to. Holla!


-Radam G :

Lil Floyd's gym is no Mecca of boksing anymore than Top Notch Trainer Freddie "no joke Coach" Roach's Wildcard is, which has product three times the world champs and contenders that Lil Floyd's gym has. Besides Lil Floyd's gym is largely an ethnic one, while TNT Freddie's Wildcard is like the United Nations. Members of every ethnic group on the planet earth are represented there. And there is no ethnic tension. Which is not the case with the Mayweather gym. Holla!


-brownsugar :

Tell you what if you have a look at some of the moves and punches Berto laid on Jesus Soto-Karass (before Berto's shoulder tore); in the very least he looked pretty dynamic and dangerous. Personally, (in the AA shows) I'd like to see more of Floyd's sparring sessions - the ones against good fighters; that you assume must take place to get him in shape. :)
So would I Storm.... the two guys Floyd used in the media workout seemed to not want to take Floyd "there" during the workout and appeared to be used to taking punishment even though the guy in the black shirt is supposedly undefeated. But he frequently spars with the best amateurs in the business (international talent, depending on the opponent) and Floyd is the first to say that some guys have real good days against him. Either Jeff or Floyd Sr said on a video on FH a couple of weeks ago that a Ukranian fighter was handing everybody their arse for a little while until they put him in with a kid whom some say may be the next Floyd, (a 16 year old kid named Devin Haney). And we know that Eroll Spence wasn't beat up when Floyd used him to get ready for the Canelo fight which is why Floyd looked so sharp during that fight. Floyd had a black eye courtesy of Eroll Spence as proof. Floyd has said as recently as two weeks ago that everyone looks good and bad in sparring but Floyd reserves the highest praise for the sparring partners who make it difficult.... Not the target practice guys intended to feed the media a good show. But regardless its a dynamic atmosphere that reminds me of the time when I only lived to sweat.


-kidcanvas :

[RIGHT][/RIGHT] im stunned anyone really cares about any of this nonsense.. Berto omg what floyd gets away with is beyond me and still gets props lol


-stormcentre :

Wow! Lil Floyd makes his Uncle Roger look pathetic when the uncle is simply on a bad diet and has arthritis of the cranium. This syet can easily be fixed with the right foods, minerals and vitamins. Don't believe the hypes and exaggeration about punch drunkness. Uncle Roger has a blood sugar problem along with his arthritis of the cranium. People get that syet all the time, but are ignorant to it. Uncles Roger doesn't feed his brains correctly, which is closer to his big-@$$ mouth than his big-@$$ stomach that he only feeds syet foods, sodas and candies to. Holla!
Here's a little "I'm an academia too" science for you . . . . kind of like the "scientific survey" you mentioned before about MayPac2. Please don't shoot the messenger here, as
Storm's just (having fun with the wild claims and) touching base with my "solid gold archives", and - of course - keeping it Snoop Doggy Dog Dog real. Rheumatoid arthritis is a condition that can possibly affects all of the synovial joints in the body. A synovial joint is the most common and most movable joint in humans; they're also joints that have a capsule like membrane that encapsulates the surfaces of the synovial joint that itself accommodates a lubricating "synovial fluid" within the capsule. The skull (occipitut) is actually connected to the cervical spine at the vertebrae C1. In between the occipitut and C1, on each side of the spine are synovial joints called the occipital-cervical joint. Providing posterior support for the spine are each section or vertebrae segment of the spine; itself also featuring a pair of facet joints that are themselves synovial joints. Rheumatoid arthritis can and does affect; the occipital-cervical joint, the atlanto-axial joint, and also all other facet joints along the spine. Rheumatoid arthritis effectively deteriorates and destroys synovial joints. As the joints are disintegrate and deform, the segmented connection they provide between each vertebra becomes painful, unreliable, and unstable. Extremely serious problems often are the result when the synovial joints in the neck have rheumatoid arthritis and/or are destroyed; particularly the atlanto-axial joint - the synovial joint between C1 and C2. When (otherwise) stable synovial joints contract rheumatoid arthritis and are destroyed anyone's vertebra can not only easily become unstable - worse still the spine itself can slide forward (a condition called listhesis or "spinal mobility") across the top face of its underlying vertebra. This (not at the C1 and C2 joints though) happened to me some years ago; but not due to rheumatoid arthritis - even though I was checked for that - which is how I know about this stuff. The experience was caused by years of excessive training, and not very pleasant. Back to the cervical spine; where Roger is said to have his issue that (a witchdoctor claims a) diet can resolve. Slippage between synovial joints within both the cervical vertebrae and the neck is commonly referred to by Orthopedic surgeons as "anterior listhesis", and it can lead to (extreme?) pressure being placed on both the nerve roots and also the spinal cord. When this occurs at the atlanto-axial joint - between C1 and C2 vertebrae - it is considered to be extremely serious and dangerous; for obvious reasons. This synovial joint is unique because it is equipped with what's referred to as a "knobby odontoid process". What that means is that there is a risk that instability between these vertebrae segments can cause the "odontoid" to (literally) push into the spinal cord - which can then result in extremely serious problems. Now to what you're claiming Roger has; the connection between the skull and the C1 vertebra - called the occipital-cervical joint - is also considered a synovial joint. This synovial joint can also become unstable, which then means the skull will not "float" - on the above-mentioned capsule like membrane and its lubricating "synovial fluid" - and therefore will settle down. As you would imagine this condition is not to be laughed/sneezed at. As this can also cause serious pressure on the spinal cord if the odontoid moves up into the skull; which can happen and is facilitated through an opening in the skull referred to as the "foramen magnum". Needless to say that the fact that; 1) Blood supply delivered to the brain takes place via two vertebral arteries that also enter the skull through this same "foramen magnum" opening. 2) The above-mentioned two vertebral arteries that actually deliver blood to the brain can end up compressed by the odontoid's mobility. Doesn't help matters. Now given all that, and given how; A) Roger is claimed to be pathetic. B) The condition he is said to have is arthritis. C) How we are asked to not believe the "hypes and exaggeration". D) You have advised us that the brain can be fed. E) You have advised us that "people get that syet all the time, but are ignorant to it". Is there any chance you can advise of the following; 1) If you are you aware that - regardless of the fact that the very antithesis of this fight approach is what is widely ridiculed in some fighters - what has happened to "Uncles Rogers" is what can happen to fighters that are exciting and fight whenever/whomever asked? 2) Precisely what are "the right foods, minerals and vitamins" to "fix" this "syet" - rheumatoid arthritis of the cervical joints - that Roger has? 3) How could "Uncles Roger" feed his brains correctly? 4) Are your claims/posts an example of how well you feed your brains? 5) Are your claims/posts an example of how well you respect our intelligence? 6) Do you think your claim that "Uncles Rogers" has a big-@$$ mouth and big-@$$ stomach that he only feeds syet foods, sodas and candies to, is appropriate and reasonable; given - if the guy has the condition you claim - he is very likely close to dying. 7) What the medical and scientific (I know you love to be scientific) connection is - if any - between rheumatoid arthritis of the cervical joints, and diet? So we can distinguish the "syet" from clay. OK, after all that . . . I'm, thirsty - now where's that glass of Cherry Juice. :) :)


-stormcentre :

[RIGHT][/RIGHT] im stunned anyone really cares about any of this nonsense.. Berto omg what floyd gets away with is beyond me and still gets props lol
Yeh, you're probably right KC. We probably have nothing better to do with ourselves. Appreciate your views, but I think many will still tune in to see what happens with Mayweather V Berto. :)


-stormcentre :

So would I Storm.... the two guys Floyd used in the media workout seemed to not want to take Floyd "there" during the workout and appeared to be used to taking punishment even though the guy in the black shirt is supposedly undefeated. But he frequently spars with the best amateurs in the business (international talent, depending on the opponent) and Floyd is the first to say that some guys have real good days against him. Either Jeff or Floyd Sr said on a video on FH a couple of weeks ago that a Ukranian fighter was handing everybody their arse for a little while until they put him in with a kid whom some say may be the next Floyd, (a 16 year old kid named Devin Haney). And we know that Eroll Spence wasn't beat up when Floyd used him to get ready for the Canelo fight which is why Floyd looked so sharp during that fight. Floyd had a black eye courtesy of Eroll Spence as proof. Floyd has said as recently as two weeks ago that everyone looks good and bad in sparring but Floyd reserves the highest praise for the sparring partners who make it difficult.... Not the target practice guys intended to feed the media a good show. But regardless its a dynamic atmosphere that reminds me of the time when I only lived to sweat.
Yes I guess you're right. Floyd is not young anymore, so I should imagine - just like anyone else - when he spars (before or as he slips back into 12 round fighting shape) he will pay the price for not being as "sharp" as he can be. That's boxing. Hey, isn't that Devin Haney the guy in one of the recent Berto V Floyd AA shows?


-brownsugar :

Yes I guess you're right. Floyd is not young anymore, so I should imagine - just like anyone else - when he spars (before or as he slips back into 12 round fighting shape) he will pay the price for not being as "sharp" as he can be. That's boxing. Hey, isn't that Devin Haney the guy in one of the recent Berto V Floyd AA shows?
I would have to watch the show again. He wasn't sparring with Floyd on the program, I know that for sure, This guy is obviously very young and is taller than Floyd, he's a Carmel complected guy with a short fro and absolutely no facial hair, he may have been standing around the ring talking. Floyd senior is already talking the kid up and calls him HIS son. A lot can happen between the age of 16 and adulthood, .. drugs, jail, an obsession with the opposite sex or a sudden lack of interest. Hopefully the kid can make it through that perilous time known as adolescence. But training with the best and richest fighter on the planet has to be a tremendous source of motivation.


-brownsugar :

There's probably a little Floyd (protege) growing up in every corner of the globe. So nothing is a given.


-amayseng :

Berto comes off as a the likeable, humble, kid next door. Floyd is the center piece of his own self serving universe that he created by virture of his amazing skill and deep seated obsession to control his own destiny. This man dedicated 80% of his waking life to feed the desire of those who either appreciated his talent of hated him for having the audacity to flaunt his obsenely amazing embarrassment of riches. Every time I see Floyd's gym, my free testosterone count goes up. Most of the readers on this site used to participate in sports on some level. Some of you still do on a very high level. There isn't much on earth that can compare with the joy and comradarie of gathering with team mates at the gym while you compete, compare, and drive yourself to the limit in preparation of the next battle. Floyd has continuously infused his gym with new talent for the last two decades until it has become the mecca of boxing. Talent from all over the world drops in on a regular basis to test themselves. Floyd's gym is like paradise to those who understand their purpose as a fighter. And the culture won't change after he hangs up his gloves. I thought this show showcased the best of Floyd and Berto. Their differences were illustrated with top notch production values yet the show had the feel of final family reunion... I'm going to enjoy watching the fight. .. I'm going to miss Floyd in the ring.
I spar every weekend, every single weekend, I would not call Floyd's gym a paradise but instead a farce, except for a few, of wannabe's, and betas. I would never want to be involved or around those guys. No real man, no man who is an alpha, praises another man or cheerleads another man as a yes man. Where I spar, we of course support one another and the goal is to get better and learn of course, but that is much different from acting like these guys do having no self respect or dignity. Its humiliating the way they act and laugh at horrible unfunny jokes. Both disturbing and disgusting, meaning his gym is the last place I would wanna be unless I could be around Floyd to learn.


-Radam G :

I spar every weekend, every single weekend, I would not call Floyd's gym a paradise but instead a farce, except for a few, of wannabe's, and betas. I would never want to be involved or around those guys. No real man, no man who is an alpha, praises another man or cheerleads another man as a yes man. Where I spar, we of course support one another and the goal is to get better and learn of course, but that is much different from acting like these guys do having no self respect or dignity. Its humiliating the way they act and laugh at horrible unfunny jokes. Both disturbing and disgusting, meaning his gym is the last place I would wanna be unless I could be around Floyd to learn.
Lil Floyd's gym draws primarily the ratchet groupies of one ethnic group of pugilism. And that is a fact jack! Go to his gym any day of the week or holla at it on YouTube. Roughly about ten percent of the pugs fighting in Sin City or visiting Sin city uses it. You are so right about alpha pugs. They go nowhere near that cesspool of classless foul-mouth-and-misbehaving beta, charley, delta and Echo scrappers in the Mayweather's gym. You would expect for a gym to have a stable of pugs. Mayweather's gym has a cult of ___ ____s. What is written in cyberspace about a cult-figure-like boxer's power and pull often has no reality in da real real of da actuality of the reality. Holla!


-brownsugar :

I spar every weekend, every single weekend, I would not call Floyd's gym a paradise but instead a farce, except for a few, of wannabe's, and betas. I would never want to be involved or around those guys. No real man, no man who is an alpha, praises another man or cheerleads another man as a yes man. Where I spar, we of course support one another and the goal is to get better and learn of course, but that is much different from acting like these guys do having no self respect or dignity. Its humiliating the way they act and laugh at horrible unfunny jokes. Both disturbing and disgusting, meaning his gym is the last place I would wanna be unless I could be around Floyd to learn.
I'm too old to spar any more Amayseng, but if I could and if I were a boxer, I would do whatever I could do to get into Floyd's gym for an opportunity to work with the best and witness first hand what it takes to achieve the level of skill and greatness that Floyd has achieved. Haters be damned. What you despise, I'm sure I would treasure.


-brownsugar :

My daughter just moved to Arizona, when I visit her I'm going to submit a request to tour the gym. I'm not sure what's involved but you shouldn't have to be a member of the CIA to find out.


-amayseng :

I'm too old to spar any more Amayseng, but if I could and if I were a boxer, I would do whatever I could do to get into Floyd's gym for an opportunity to work with the best and witness first hand what it takes to achieve the level of skill and greatness that Floyd has achieved. Haters be damned. What you despise, I'm sure I would treasure.
I am 37 and like you said earlier, an athlete always an athlete. With my back I can no longer spring full speed and go up and come down with a rebound on the basketball court but I can fight within control of my abilities so I do it because I love to fight, I love fitness and I love to compete. And ****, I dont wanna get old. I would love to watch Floyd train and spar and learn from him first hand, but no way would I ever want to be around a bunch of beta yes men who think worshiping another man makes it as if they have achieved something themselves. It is disgusting. You will never see me wearing a jersey or have a favorite player/fighter, I am not 12 I am a man and secondly I only wear my jersey not another man's jersey. These yes men are humiliating to the male sex. No wonder women run **** now a days..


-amayseng :

My daughter just moved to Arizona, when I visit her I'm going to submit a request to tour the gym. I'm not sure what's involved but you shouldn't have to be a member of the CIA to find out.
You should, you should also don some gloves and hit the bag for a few rounds. Then you can carry that with you that you once worked out in Floyd's gym, pretty cool.


-brownsugar :

I am 37 and like you said earlier, an athlete always an athlete. With my back I can no longer spring full speed and go up and come down with a rebound on the basketball court but I can fight within control of my abilities so I do it because I love to fight, I love fitness and I love to compete. And ****, I dont wanna get old. I would love to watch Floyd train and spar and learn from him first hand, but no way would I ever want to be around a bunch of beta yes men who think worshiping another man makes it as if they have achieved something themselves. It is disgusting. You will never see me wearing a jersey or have a favorite player/fighter, I am not 12 I am a man and secondly I only wear my jersey not another man's jersey. These yes men are humiliating to the male sex. No wonder women run **** now a days..
I'm not seeing your alpha- beta dog analysis... All I see is a team working hard to obtain a common goal. ...an ever-changing inviroment with one of the most electrifying fighters in the sport. Yes there may be a few over appreciative employees and fans, but is it any different than watching 3 or 4 dozen people constantly following Pac around? Falling over top of themselves to service him, opening doors for him, and fighting over who can serve him next? Or did you forget the entourage Ali had?...comes with the territoty... You're always going to see some idol worship in any camp. You have to look a little deeper. But you can think what you want.


-Domenic :

You will never see me wearing a jersey or have a favorite player/fighter, I am not 12 I am a man and secondly I only wear my jersey not another man's jersey.
That's funny. I've never understood that either. I go to a handful of Tampa Bay Buccaneers games each year, and will wear a hat or their colors to support the home team, but never really understood buying a jersey with a guy's name on it as a full blown adult. It's fine for kids, but nah, not adults, at least for me. Same with autographs. It's just strange to want the signature of someone younger, same sex, etc.


-amayseng :

That's funny. I've never understood that either. I go to a handful of Tampa Bay Buccaneers games each year, and will wear a hat or their colors to support the home team, but never really understood buying a jersey with a guy's name on it as a full blown adult. It's fine for kids, but nah, not adults, at least for me. Same with autographs. It's just strange to want the signature of someone younger, same sex, etc.
Exactly, I would never wear another man's jersey, I wore mine. Yep, very strange for an adult man to do it. Kids it is understandable.


-amayseng :

I'm not seeing your alpha- beta dog analysis... All I see is a team working hard to obtain a common goal. ...an ever-changing inviroment with one of the most electrifying fighters in the sport. Yes there may be a few over appreciative employees and fans, but is it any different than watching 3 or 4 dozen people constantly following Pac around? Falling over top of themselves to service him, opening doors for him, and fighting over who can serve him next? Or did you forget the entourage Ali had?...comes with the territoty... You're always going to see some idol worship in any camp. You have to look a little deeper. But you can think what you want.
Oh I am sure there are plenty of beta's kissing Pac's *** as well. Nothing wrong with supporting your guy or being there to do a job. I am talking about all these hanger'ons laughing at jokes that arent funny and being a kissass. Even talking **** to Berto, wtf? In Cleveland we use to call that being "bitchmade" Beta another name


-Radam G :

I'm not seeing your alpha- beta dog analysis... All I see is a team working hard to obtain a common goal. ...an ever-changing inviroment with one of the most electrifying fighters in the sport. Yes there may be a few over appreciative employees and fans, but is it any different than watching 3 or 4 dozen people constantly following Pac around? Falling over top of themselves to service him, opening doors for him, and fighting over who can serve him next? Or did you forget the entourage Ali had?...comes with the territoty... You're always going to see some idol worship in any camp. You have to look a little deeper. But you can think what you want.
Bullsyet silly propaganda! Being rude and ratchet are not a part of Asian culture. So no ratchet-bytch syet ever happened in Da Manny entourage. And the type of Muslim that GOAT Ali is didn't allow that bulljive either. The GOAT Ali fired his spiritual trainer Bundini Brown a few times for that jive, and Bundini would get straight before coming back. Besides the Muslims around the GOAT Ali were well disciplined and super violent to rudeness and rachetness. "The entourage Ali had" was paramilitary for whip-@$$ discipline of what they called any (N-word) acting. Promoter Murad Muhammad, then one of GOAT Ali's body guards, would sucker punch anybody -- black or white -- who started "showing their @$$ [sic] in the GOAT's entourage. Nobody was going to make the GOAT Ali's hanger-ons look like he was with a bunch of ______ ______ di-ga-di _____ ______. Holla!


-Domenic :

I'm not seeing your alpha- beta dog analysis... All I see is a team working hard to obtain a common goal. ...an ever-changing inviroment with one of the most electrifying fighters in the sport. Yes there may be a few over appreciative employees and fans, but is it any different than watching 3 or 4 dozen people constantly following Pac around? Falling over top of themselves to service him, opening doors for him, and fighting over who can serve him next? Or did you forget the entourage Ali had?...comes with the territoty... You're always going to see some idol worship in any camp. You have to look a little deeper. But you can think what you want.
Great point, as always Brownsugar. But 'electrifying,' with all due respect, is perhaps a stretch. He's electrifying monetarily, and he deserves IMMENSE credit for that. His take from the sweet science should set his family up for the next 200 years, and beyond, like Joseph Kennedy in the early 1900's. He's built an empire. And he did it without endorsements. Remarkable. Perhaps he loses it all? I don't subscribe to that, but many here do, and believe his wealth is overstated. I don't know, Forbes has no agenda, and he's topped that list more than once, which is a staggering monetary achievement. In the ring, electrifying went away somewhere around the time the the WTC towers came crashing down. That said, I think Floyd will be better received later on, much like the Klitschkos, when this era is a wrap.


-Radam G :

I'm too old to spar any more Amayseng, but if I could and if I were a boxer, I would do whatever I could do to get into Floyd's gym for an opportunity to work with the best and witness first hand what it takes to achieve the level of skill and greatness that Floyd has achieved. Haters be damned. What you despise, I'm sure I would treasure.
Get the fudge outta here. Age is a number. You are probably around the age of Rev. George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Aaron "Hawk Time" Pryor, Gentleman George Cooney and my boys Earl Jewell, Milton "Pete" Seward and Jerome Kelly. They still get in the squared jungle and go a few rounds. So age is not the problem. Jake LaMotta was still getting in,the ring and going some in his late 80s. FWIIW, there a few pups around the globe still get down with it in their 80$. Where is TSS arch investigative pugilistic journalist S-To? He can go in the deep dark of boksing history and pull up the ages of the oldest pugs to ever scrap. Sixty something ain't syet for alpha dudes. The late, great General MacArthur was doing all type of army combat tactics of scrapping in World War II and in the Korea War when he was near 70. He was forced to retire. And I ain't going to even get started with the training tactic of my 115-year-old Tio Mamoy. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Bullsyet silly propaganda! Being rude and ratchet are not a part of Asian culture.
So no ratchet-bytch syet ever happened in Da Manny entourage. And the type of Muslim that GOAT Ali is didn't allow that bulljive either. The GOAT Ali fired his spiritual trainer Bundini Brown a few times for that jive, and Bundini would get straight before coming back. Besides the Muslims around the GOAT Ali were well disciplined and super violent to rudeness and rachetness. "The entourage Ali had" was paramilitary for whip-@$$ discipline of what they called any (N-word) acting. Promoter Murad Muhammad, then one of GOAT Ali's body guards, would sucker punch anybody -- black or white -- who started "showing their @$$ [sic] in the GOAT's entourage. Nobody was going to make the GOAT Ali's hanger-ons look like he was with a bunch of ______ ______ di-ga-di _____ ______. Holla!
Hey, NostRADAMus, What about Da Manny's entourage's actions related to unnecessarily and unreasonably publicly bagging Floyd for his apparent non-signing of the (completely non-existent) contract? What about what you write and say? Isn't that really, at times, itself just rude and ratchet bytch syet? Sure I know it's all true; but still - the above sentence still stands. Well, at least until it contracts rheumatoid arthritis from easting a bad diet and other syet. :) Also, remember - after all you're (self-proclaimed to be) in Pac's entourage too!! Remember, you (self-proclaimed to) walked into the ring with him for MayPac with that fedora hat on? So perhaps this has implications for the above comments; ""no ratchet-bytch syet ever happened in Da Manny entourage."" Still love your mad gig Radam. Hey, . . . and this is just cause we never can laugh too much . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22487-All-ACCESS-Episode-2-Recap-Floyd-Insists-He-Will-Retire-Berto-Says-He-s-Hungrier-Than-Ever&p=87374&viewfull=1#post87374 What diet and foods do you reckon would cure the rheumatoid arthritis within Uncle Rogers' Atlanto-Axial and occipital-cervical synovial joints; that sit between his skull and the C1 cervical vertebra, and also between his C1 and C2 cervical vertebrae? I'm just wondering what food groups (and how sugar or the lack of it) would cure the rheumatoid arthritis and also put a halt to his vertebrae's instability between the above-mentioned vertebrae segments so that; A) His spinal cord and brain's blood supply can remain safe. B) The above (link provided) post of yours is not in conflict with your post to which this one responds. Dude, I have travelled all through many parts of Asia, and whilst by/large many Asians are respectful and thinking people, there are still (as with any country) quite a few rude and inconsiderate ones out there. I won't list examples here, but if you wish to dare me I will. You should know this as you have told us that you ran with street gangs; which, last time I checked, are rarely exempt from being rude. [QUOTE=Radam G;80813]
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20895-Shot-Fired-Mike-Tyson-At-Floyd-Mayweather&p=80813&viewfull=1#post80813 Wow! Well Money May is faking being a tough guy. He is the biggest liar about growing up street tough. He was more protected and sheltered than I was. At least I hung with real street gangs before I was reeled in and sent to boarding school. Iron Mike doesn't need syet from phony, tough-arse Money May. A day and a wake up. And we will see the actuality of the reality. Holla![/QUOTE]


-stormcentre :

Bullsyet silly propaganda! Being rude and ratchet are not a part of Asian culture.
So no ratchet-bytch syet ever happened in Da Manny entourage. And the type of Muslim that GOAT Ali is didn't allow that bulljive either. The GOAT Ali fired his spiritual trainer Bundini Brown a few times for that jive, and Bundini would get straight before coming back. Besides the Muslims around the GOAT Ali were well disciplined and super violent to rudeness and rachetness. "The entourage Ali had" was paramilitary for whip-@$$ discipline of what they called any (N-word) acting. Promoter Murad Muhammad, then one of GOAT Ali's body guards, would sucker punch anybody -- black or white -- who started "showing their @$$ [sic] in the GOAT's entourage. Nobody was going to make the GOAT Ali's hanger-ons look like he was with a bunch of ______ ______ di-ga-di _____ ______. Holla!
Hey, NostRADAMus, What about Da Manny's entourage's actions related to unnecessarily and unreasonably publicly bagging Floyd for his apparent non-signing of the (completely non-existent) contract? What about what you write and say? Isn't that really, at times, itself just rude and ratchet bytch syet? Sure I know it's all true; but still - the above sentence still stands. Well, at least until it contracts rheumatoid arthritis from easting a bad diet and other syet. :) Also, remember - after all you're (self-proclaimed to be) in Pac's entourage too!! Remember, you (self-proclaimed to) walked into the ring with him for MayPac with that fedora hat on? So perhaps this has implications for the above comments; ""no ratchet-bytch syet ever happened in Da Manny entourage."" Still love your mad gig Radam. Hey, . . . and this is just cause we never can laugh too much . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22487-All-ACCESS-Episode-2-Recap-Floyd-Insists-He-Will-Retire-Berto-Says-He-s-Hungrier-Than-Ever&p=87374&viewfull=1#post87374 What diet and foods do you reckon would cure the rheumatoid arthritis within the vertebrae's synovial joints of Uncle Rogers' Atlanto-Axial and Occipital-Cervical synovial joints; that sit between both his skull and the C1 cervical vertebra, and also between his C1 and C2 cervical vertebrae? I'm just wondering what food groups (and how sugar or the lack of it) would cure the rheumatoid arthritis and also put a halt to his vertebrae's instability between the above-mentioned vertebrae segments so that; A) His spinal cord and brain's blood supply can remain safe. B) The above (link provided) post of yours is not in conflict with your post to which this one responds. Dude, I have travelled all through many parts of Asia, and whilst by/large many Asians are respectful and thinking people, there are still (as with any country) quite a few rude and inconsiderate ones out there. I won't list examples here, but if you wish to dare me I will. You should know this as you have told us that you ran with street gangs; which, last time I checked, are rarely exempt from being rude. [QUOTE=Radam G;80813]
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?20895-Shot-Fired-Mike-Tyson-At-Floyd-Mayweather&p=80813&viewfull=1#post80813 Wow! Well Money May is faking being a tough guy. He is the biggest liar about growing up street tough. He was more protected and sheltered than I was. At least I hung with real street gangs before I was reeled in and sent to boarding school. Iron Mike doesn't need syet from phony, tough-arse Money May. A day and a wake up. And we will see the actuality of the reality. Holla![/QUOTE] Sorry, didn't mean to "troll" ya. I was just think about what you're saying. :) :) :)


-Absy71 :

Hey, NostRADAMus, What about Da Manny's entourage's actions related to unnecessarily and unreasonably publicly bagging Floyd for his apparent non-signing of the (completely non-existent) contract? What about what you write and say? Isn't that really, at times, itself just rude and ratchet bytch syet? Sure I know it's all true; but still - the above sentence still stands. Well, at least until it contracts rheumatoid arthritis from easting a bad diet and other syet. :) Also, remember - after all you're (self-proclaimed to be) in Pac's entourage too!! Remember, you (self-proclaimed to) walked into the ring with him for MayPac with that fedora hat on? So perhaps this has implications for the above comments; ""no ratchet-bytch syet ever happened in Da Manny entourage."" Still love your mad gig Radam. Hey, . . . and this is just cause we never can laugh too much . . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22487-All-ACCESS-Episode-2-Recap-Floyd-Insists-He-Will-Retire-Berto-Says-He-s-Hungrier-Than-Ever&p=87374&viewfull=1#post87374 What diet and foods do you reckon would cure the rheumatoid arthritis within the vertebrae's synovial joints of Uncle Rogers' Atlanto-Axial and Occipital-Cervical synovial joints; that sit between both his skull and the C1 cervical vertebra, and also between his C1 and C2 cervical vertebrae? I'm just wondering what food groups (and how sugar or the lack of it) would cure the rheumatoid arthritis and also put a halt to his vertebrae's instability between the above-mentioned vertebrae segments so that; A) His spinal cord and brain's blood supply can remain safe. B) The above (link provided) post of yours is not in conflict with your post to which this one responds. Dude, I have travelled all through many parts of Asia, and whilst by/large many Asians are respectful and thinking people, there are still (as with any country) quite a few rude and inconsiderate ones out there. I won't list examples here, but if you wish to dare me I will. You should know this as you have told us that you ran with street gangs; which, last time I checked, are rarely exempt from being rude. Sorry, didn't mean to "troll" ya. I was just think about what you're saying. :) :) :)
Hi Storm, Everyone, Here is one link that will show certain foods that COULD help Rheumatoid Arthritis, Rheumatoid arthritis is a auto-immune disease, just like crohns Disease ( both caused by inflamation of the stomach, a build up of mucus ) Wheat is the biggest killer, then probably sugar, I have Crohn's & was suspected of having Rheumatoid Arthritis aswell, I have been learning a lot about diet, certain foods, cut out a lot of crap. Feeling AWESOME, I believe, we as a species are eating the wrong foods, we should be 20% cooked & the rest raw from mainly plant food. We can control certain diseases with diet, there is so much info out there, I am still learning & will continue what I am doing & knock this disease into remission. Maybe it is to late for Uncle Roger, but as they say it is never too late. Anyway a bit of food for thought.
->http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?pfriendly=1&tname=disease&dbid=13 Cheers Absy


-brownsugar :

Oh I am sure there are plenty of beta's kissing Pac's *** as well. Nothing wrong with supporting your guy or being there to do a job. I am talking about all these hanger'ons laughing at jokes that arent funny and being a kissass. Even talking **** to Berto, wtf? In Cleveland we use to call that being "bitchmade" Beta another name
Well as always Amayseng. Thanks,..I appreciate your opinion. I'm not going to call a guy bitchmade for laughing at jokes. Lol.... Floyd just talks a lot of ish sometimes,..I cannot get an accurate read of the social dynamic around Floyd from just a few random vids....but it seems that people like to go to the most negative extremes when discussing Floyd. He's just an athlete who has supported a lot of his childhood friends and family... I personally wouldn't let any athlete or public figure take up so much negative head space. But I'm.always impressed by the enthusiasm I see in his gym ...and the positive comments expressed by the dozens of fighters who have been there. And ultimately, who could possibly be the best source of information besides the boxers who have experienced it for themselves.


-brownsugar :

Great point, as always Brownsugar. But 'electrifying,' with all due respect, is perhaps a stretch. He's electrifying monetarily, and he deserves IMMENSE credit for that. His take from the sweet science should set his family up for the next 200 years, and beyond, like Joseph Kennedy in the early 1900's. He's built an empire. And he did it without endorsements. Remarkable. Perhaps he loses it all? I don't subscribe to that, but many here do, and believe his wealth is overstated. I don't know, Forbes has no agenda, and he's topped that list more than once, which is a staggering monetary achievement. In the ring, electrifying went away somewhere around the time the the WTC towers came cras byhing down. That said, I think Floyd will be better received later on, much like the Klitschkos, when this era is a wrap.
Always great to hear your input Domenic, yes the term electrifying might be little a over the top. Lol..


-stormcentre :

Hi Storm, Everyone, Here is one link that will show certain foods that COULD help Rheumatoid Arthritis, Rheumatoid arthritis is a auto-immune disease, just like crohns Disease ( both caused by inflamation of the stomach, a build up of mucus ) Wheat is the biggest killer, then probably sugar, I have Crohn's & was suspected of having Rheumatoid Arthritis aswell, I have been learning a lot about diet, certain foods, cut out a lot of crap. Feeling AWESOME, I believe, we as a species are eating the wrong foods, we should be 20% cooked & the rest raw from mainly plant food. We can control certain diseases with diet, there is so much info out there, I am still learning & will continue what I am doing & knock this disease into remission. Maybe it is to late for Uncle Roger, but as they say it is never too late. Anyway a bit of food for thought.
->http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?pfriendly=1&tname=disease&dbid=13 Cheers Absy
Cheers Absy. Yes there are lots of websites out there that claim to know how/what dietary intake can assist with Rheumatoid arthritis. But I am not yet - and neither was my Orthapedic surgeon - aware of any diet or food group that can meaningfully assist Rheumatoid arthritis in ways that have been scientifically and medically proven. But let's - just for the purpose of being a nice Storm (cause I am :) ) - say that there is a way that dietary intake can "assist" with people that have contracted Rheumatoid arthritis, and let's just say it is proven. Even then, the likelihood that - whatever dietary intake it was that somehow did the "magic witchdoctor Rheumatoid arthritis healing" - could assist with Rheumatoid arthritis in the above-mentioned areas "Uncle Roger" is said to have it, would be very small; for all the reasons I discuss in above posts, including those related to blood supply to the brain. But then, let's - just for the purpose of being a nice Storm (cause I am :) ) - "again" say that there is a way that dietary intake can assist with people that have contracted Rheumatoid arthritis in the above-mentioned areas "Uncle Roger" is said to have it, and let's just say it is proven. That still leaves the fact that there appears to be no accepted scientific/medical evidence that such foods and unannounced dietary intake can (and has) assisted in the "prevention" of Rheumatoid arthritis in the severe and above-mentioned areas that "Uncle Roger" is not only said to have it - but also vehemently said (by Radam) to have it because of his diet. See how silly both this train of thought, and the related claims are? Now, all this in itself may be OK. But then when you're making a big deal about; A) "Bulljivers, syet, fakers, hypes and exaggeration about punch drunkness". B) And saying that "people get that syet all the time, but are ignorant to it". C) "Floyd makes his Uncle Roger (who could very well die or experience serious lifestyle restrictions from his Rheumatoid arthritis) look pathetic when the uncle is simply on a bad diet and has arthritis of the cranium.
This syet can easily be fixed with the right foods, minerals and vitamins". D) "Don't believe the hypes and exaggeration about punch drunkness. Uncle Roger has a blood sugar problem along with his arthritis of the cranium. People get that syet all the time, but are ignorant to it". E) "
Uncles Roger doesn't feed his brains correctly, which is closer to his big-@$$ mouth than his big-@$$ stomach that he only feeds syet foods, sodas and candies to. Holla!" It's probably a different story. Even if we hadn't been fed with the same reliable information for 18 months previously. And, even if Roger Mayweather wasn't really sick due to - according to Radam - deteriorated synovial/vertabrae joints between his skull/C1 and/or C1/C2. For all the above reasons Radam will not be able to explain both, his harsh claims (again, and as he cries foul about "bulljivers" and "fakers") and also the the following; 1) The link between Rheumatoid arthritis and dietary intake in the above context or even a scientific one; which must be established for his claims to even begin to ring true. 2) The other fair questions (given the claims and ridicule they respond to) I pitch within post #12. Finally, as these below links show, there are hundreds of dietary fallacies about how to assist with and/or prevent Rheumatoid arthritis.
->http://www.arthritis.org/living-with-arthritis/arthritis-diet/anti-inflammatory/food-myths-arthritis.php
->http://www.prohealth.com/library/showarticle.cfm?libid=2064
->http://health.clevelandclinic.org/2014/11/busting-5-myths-about-diet-and-arthritis/ Please note that no website, or no-one that claims they know how to prevent Rheumatoid arthritis via dietary intake provides a clear reference to the scientific/medical proof that supports their claim. Which I think should really be just the starting point before (more unsubstantiated) derogatory, wild, and harsh claims about people like Uncle Roger (whom trained the guy that beat Pacquaio) - such as those above - are thoughtlessly made and released. I am glad you brought this up though Absy, as I was going to cover the websites that deal with dietary fallacies related to supposedly assisting with and/or preventing Rheumatoid arthritis in my above post; but I didn't want to make that post too long as long posts around here are not as tolerated as the above-mentioned unnecessary rubbish about Roger Mayweather, that I have asked for some clarification on - whilst being reasonably aware that such requests to Radam will most likely be galloped away from like the hundreds before them. Still, if nothing else, we get a good laugh. Thanks for your post/reply Absy. :) :)


-Radam G :

Hi Storm, Everyone, Here is one link that will show certain foods that COULD help Rheumatoid Arthritis, Rheumatoid arthritis is a auto-immune disease, just like crohns Disease ( both caused by inflamation of the stomach, a build up of mucus ) Wheat is the biggest killer, then probably sugar, I have Crohn's & was suspected of having Rheumatoid Arthritis aswell, I have been learning a lot about diet, certain foods, cut out a lot of crap. Feeling AWESOME, I believe, we as a species are eating the wrong foods, we should be 20% cooked & the rest raw from mainly plant food. We can control certain diseases with diet, there is so much info out there, I am still learning & will continue what I am doing & knock this disease into remission. Maybe it is to late for Uncle Roger, but as they say it is never too late. Anyway a bit of food for thought.
->http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?pfriendly=1&tname=disease&dbid=13 Cheers Absy
Oh My Fudging Gald! Too many people are suffering and straight-up dying for a lack of knowledge. "The Father of modern Medicine," Hippocrates, said clearly "let proper foods be your medicine." Dude was a ND -- a naturopathic doktor, not drug-headed medical doctor. No hate! Medical doctors serve a great purpose and are needed. There are mucho in my Fam. But these pharmaceutical companies, with their bullsyet, got a hold on slacking, lazy, greedy medical doctors and the media. So just in the USA, umpteen Yanks and Stanks and naive wanks are killed or cripple by pharmaceutical drugs and medical doktors on da regular. Absy71, you are spot on. But brainwashed people rather die than to be wrong. So the rope of the medical doktors and pharmaceutical giant killers is long. But it serves fools right. Let them be gone. They think that they can hear their funeral song. And it is not too late for Uncle Roger, but it is getting late. Holla at da real real. And what a real doktor has said about how medicine has gone wild. And people need to bring it back to the ways of proper food, minerals and vitamins. They work! That bullsyet pharmaceutical medicine does not.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yh91xMCZ2RE. Holla!


-Radam G :

Here you go about arthritis, Absy.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LvuhxBVuc_4. Other than on the Island of Luzon, where American military Yanks were stationed for years, we do not have arthritis in the P-Islands. We have 80 years olds up to a 100-something year-old Pinoys and Pinays mountain climbing and racing up coconut trees. And U.S. Scientists are studying Filipino tribes that have umpteen members between 100 and a 140 years plus in age. This one Aeta tribes has not had a natural death in its tribe in 70 years. So-called modern Western people are so full of syet. And don't know syet about the real real of others. They think that have superiority in every darn thing under the sun. And I guess that is the plan of their nations -- to warehouse their school education and keep them delusional about being superiorly smart. They don't even know where to start. And the crazy thing about it, their rich and wealthy citizens are coming to our parts of the world for medical treatments. On the mainland of the USA, 15,000 patients a month die in hospital because of filthy situations of doktors not washing their hands, being given the wrong type of surgery, being given the wrong type of prescription drug and infecting from beds and equipment, to name a few inconvenience. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

Happy Labor Day! Just had a great breakfast and a walk on the beach. Here I am trying to relax after working 85 hours last week and you guys are making me talk about work. I have 3 jobs , I am a full time MRI supervisor at a University Medical Center for the past 15 years. I also work at NY Spine Center NYU Langone, and Columbia Presbyterian Cornell. All day long I see then Dens and C2. I have to find and measure the angles of the disk space, find the nerve roots and inject contrast die and time it from the aortic arch to see the internal and external carotids so we can measure any blockages or impingement. Most neck problems are from Trauma. Others are degenerative. Rheumatoid does play a role in some pts with neck problems. I see RA effecting pts hands and wrist joints more commonly. I always talk with the patients when screening them and ask them questions about their process. Physical therapy helps big time but changes in lifestyle seem to do magic. Changes in diet,cutting out garbage food and being more active do wonders. I know a got rid of my high blood pressure by eating better,drinking beet and carrot juice and using coconut oil as much as possible. Surgery seems to help some people but doesn't do a thing for others. As far as the dens/c2 pathology,that can be a serious problem if not fixed and surgery can fix that 100% Does uncle Roger have a neck problem? We know he has diabetes and a diabetic that still binges on sugar can worsen dementia as well as get diabetic ulcers and amputation of the limbs. Radam you are right about Hippocrates . Every Physician must take the Hippocratic oath. Hippocratic Oath I swear by Apollo the physician, and Asclepius, and Hygieia and Panacea and all the gods and goddesses as my witnesses, that, according to my ability and judgement, I will keep this Oath and this contract: To hold him who taught me this art equally dear to me as my parents, to be a partner in life with him, and to fulfill his needs when required; to look upon his offspring as equals to my own siblings, and to teach them this art, if they shall wish to learn it, without fee or contract; and that by the set rules, lectures, and every other mode of instruction, I will impart a knowledge of the art to my own sons, and those of my teachers, and to students bound by this contract and having sworn this Oath to the law of medicine, but to no others.
I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgement, and I will do no harm or injustice to them. I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion. In purity and according to divine law will I carry out my life and my art. I will not use the knife, even upon those suffering from stones, but I will leave this to those who are trained in this craft. Into whatever homes I go, I will enter them for the benefit of the sick, avoiding any voluntary act of impropriety or corruption, including the seduction of women or men, whether they are free men or slaves. Whatever I see or hear in the lives of my patients, whether in connection with my professional practice or not, which ought not to be spoken of outside, I will keep secret, as considering all such things to be private. So long as I maintain this Oath faithfully and without corruption, may it be granted to me to partake of life fully and the practice of my art, gaining the respect of all men for all time. However, should I transgress this Oath and violate it, may the opposite be my fate.


-Radam G :

I hear ya, D2! But you doubters about the power of proper foods, vitamins and minerals, holla at how this doktor saved the boksing career of Evander Holyfield:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2nar3cWYfoQ. And I always provide anecdotical proof of diz, dat and da third. But my haters will fast talk you that I don't because they want to make the rules and control your thinking. I guess their egos and aging without learning much about da real real make them think that they are powerful posters/writers. That syet ain't worth a hill of beans against the actuality of the reality. One can be led to the well of da real real. But if he/she is dumb, something that could help his/her friends and love ones, an egomaniac will steal. And to him, that is no big deal. Holla!


-Radam G :

Hi Storm, Everyone, Here is one link that will show certain foods that COULD help Rheumatoid Arthritis, Rheumatoid arthritis is a auto-immune disease, just like crohns Disease ( both caused by inflamation of the stomach, a build up of mucus ) Wheat is the biggest killer, then probably sugar, I have Crohn's & was suspected of having Rheumatoid Arthritis aswell, I have been learning a lot about diet, certain foods, cut out a lot of crap. Feeling AWESOME, I believe, we as a species are eating the wrong foods, we should be 20% cooked & the rest raw from mainly plant food. We can control certain diseases with diet, there is so much info out there, I am still learning & will continue what I am doing & knock this disease into remission. Maybe it is to late for Uncle Roger, but as they say it is never too late. Anyway a bit of food for thought.
->http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?pfriendly=1&tname=disease&dbid=13 Cheers Absy
Great find! And the truth will set many free. But they prefer slavery to ignorance and the unnecessary pains of arthritis and diabetes:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PewdNCt3ToI. Holla!


-Radam G :

We live in a time where people are ill because of laziness to research and rhetoric beat downs by egomaniacs not wanting them to believe what is real. Your time and your common sense, they want to steal. Watch what you eat for every meal. And don't believe reality is bullsyet just because you have yet to learn syet. For knowing the actuality of the reality, never quit. There is one life, and pharmaceutical companies and greedy, lazy MDs who ain't right want to give you strife. And an unnecessary on-syet-medicine sick life. Holla at getting straight. And living painless and great:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MronzV8TbwY. Uncle Roger's ratchet, bulljive-talking, bytch-arse can be SAVE from diabetes and memory loss punch drunkness. Holla!


-Absy71 :

Hi Storm, RG & D2, Thanks for the replies, I will add a little later, very busy @ work, will try @ lunch or tonight. Cheers Absy71


-stormcentre :

Thanks guys, sensible boxing followers, witchdoctors, explanation-rejecters, runners, and magicians. Yes, yes, I know most of you fall into the "sensible boxing followers" category. In response to the above posts about NostRADAMus' magical cure for Rheumatoid arthritis of the cervical spine via dietary intake, please see; 1) Post #34 where it says; ""For all the above reasons Radam will not be able to explain both, his harsh claims (again, and as he cries foul about "bulljivers" and "fakers") and also the the following; . . . . ."" 2) Post #34 where it says; ""Please note that no website, or no-one that claims they know how to prevent/cure Rheumatoid arthritis via dietary intake provides a clear reference to the scientific/medical proof that supports their claim"." 3) And of course NostRADAMus' post #40; ""Uncle Roger's ratchet, bulljive-talking, bytch-arse can be SAVE from
diabetes and memory loss punch drunkness"." Which is (unsurprisingly and completely as predicted) . . . . rather than offering a clear explanation about the medical/scientific link between
Rheumatoid arthritis of the cranium and/or vertebrae to justify the harsh, wild, voodoo like comments and their accompanied/prescribed magic cures - offers (within his more recent and above pasted post #40) instead, an implicit NostRADAMus step down from the earlier NostRADAMus unsubstantiated claim (that referenced
arthritis of the cranium). ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Coming up next . . . . the inner working of (one trick on) how to avoid telling the truth and explaining yourself, so you can continue kicking and ridiculing ex-fighters and trainers - associated with other boxers that have beaten people you claimed couldn't, and failed to successfully back - as they grow old, deteriorate, and possibly pass away. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NostRADAMus does this little goalpost shift and definition change by, firstly, discarding and/or forgetting about his highly questionable claim(s) about Uncle Roger's
arthritis of the cranium and how he (supposedly) doesn't feed his brain properly (post #8), and then secondly, he drops his
diabetes and memory loss (post #40) into our lap as a replacement . . . Here is some of his post #8 . . . . NostRADAMus post #8; "Don't believe the hypes and exaggeration about punch drunkness. Uncle Roger has a blood sugar problem along with his
arthritis of the cranium. People get that syet all the time, but are ignorant to it". And, this is how NostRADAMus steps down, and away from claims that simply can't be supported - but are nonetheless still used as vehicles to rubbish those that are associated with - even at arm's length - to Floyd; whom, and because he, beat Pacquaio. I can't be certain of this, but such is the frequency at which this occurs, creates silly little personal squabbles, and goes unnoticed, it's almost as if NostRADAMus knows that most people will find this conduct of his and all it's uncontrollable and endemic features - which include rampant and hypocritical bulljiving - far less concerning than anyone asking for clarification on the claims that are used to ridicule a sick (and possibly dying) man. Furthermore - particularly given that NostRADAMus has on many instances previously advised he's an academia too and also openly referenced scientific journals, papers, and surveys to prove his case(s) - I am at a total (academia) loss as to why, now and all of a sudden, NostRADAMus seems to be (is it because it suits?) ridiculing science and favoring other far less proven forms of medicine; with respect to his magical but curiously unexplained prevention/cure for Rheumatoid arthritis of the cervical/synovial joints - via dietary intake. Particularly given that we're talking deterioration of the synovial joints and Rheumatoid arthritis of the cranium and/or vertebrae; as prescribed by NostRADAMus himself. I tell you what, it sure is convenient to rely on science, and then fall back on (unproven) natural methods and home cooking, when it suits with these medical and witchdoctor matters. It's almost like the real disease here is an inability to prevent oneself from lying and self-promoting. But, I know that could not be the case here with our resident NostRADAMus. As that circumstance is usually associated with; no proof, excuses, smoke screens, changing definitions, and running away from (all) explanation requests. And we don't have that do we? :) Once again (warning; here comes the avoided question, so look the other way magicians and witchdoctors) anyone . . . . . I am happy to see the accepted medical evidence (it's usually in a scientific journal like the ones NostRADAMus quoted when we built his E&H Hall Of Fame) that clearly shows the accepted (by the relevant medical fraternity) link between curing Rheumatoid arthritis "and" dietary intake - including the magic (but yet to be openly NostRADAMus stated/defined) vitamins, minerals and so forth. Now, given how vehemently and fast that the "fantastic", "magical" and "wonderful" claims (and any thorough rejection/ridicule of anything that remotely resembles a question about them) flow into the forum and are used to not only ridicule another person with Rheumatoid arthritis - but also claim to be able to cure that ailment; please forgive me for thinking that - surely there must be heaps of people out there that have - in a manner that is documented and observed by a qualified surgeon and/or doctor (not just a witchdoctor howling at the moon) - successfully consumed all these incredible foods and other substances, and therefore
cured their cervical and synovial deformities that are presented by Rheumatoid arthritis. Where are all these magically and naturally cured (by vitamins, minerals, cherry juice, and other dietary intake) people whom have not only fed their brains right (as NostRADAMus says he knows how we should) - but also cured their Rheumatoid arthritis within the synovial and vertebrae joints between their skulls and cervical spines as NostRADAMus says we c/s/hould? Surely there must be just one of these persons that can allow themselves (for the betterment of not just a peaceful and gang-free Asia, boxing, all virgin hymen-in-tact mermaids that are yet to be discovered, and the Loch Ness Monster - but also the human race, Orthopedic research, Rheumatoid arthritis, and medicine) to be studied. Why is no-one whom is established as an Orthopedic surgeon aware of them? Most respected Orthopedic surgeons (and the entire Orthopedically related aspects of the medical fraternity) are constantly looking for ways to better treat all back conditions. I know my Orthopedic surgeon and all his colleagues would dearly love to hear of a dietary prevention/cure for Rheumatoid arthritis within the synovial and vertebrae joints between patient's skulls and cervical spines (as NostRADAMus says he is aware of); let alone a way to feed our brains better and possibly remove the pressure placed on the spinal cord by the odontoid moving up into the skull, both through the "foramen magnum and as mentioned in my post #12. But yet, despite all the incredible NostRADAMus claims that can't be proven, and despite the concerning purposes that they're designed and used for, and despite all the argy bargy and smoke and mirrors that's always associated with them; it seems that - as with all fantastic NostRADAMus claims before this (and as the E&EHOF substantiates there have been hundreds ) - all we're really left with is; A) A wonderful and implicit NostRADAMus request to ""please believe me when I say Rheumatoid arthritis within the synovial and vertebrae joints between patient's skulls and cervical spines can be prevented/cured by a diet".". B) That's also almost always associated/accompanied with an implicit call to arms - spread out over several posts that do nothing other than deliver more confusion whilst purporting to offer clarity - that's usually framed up in terms of how ragingly unfair it is that anyone should doubt and question what's said; to the extent that anyone doing such a thing must be a troll. See . . . to NostRADAMus it's almost as if one's right to release harsh and unsubstantiated claims that are used to questionably diagnose, cure, and ridicule a sick (and possibly dying) man (whom has served boxing so much that that "important" fact doesn't even get a look in {whom has served boxing more than Roger?}) due to how the lies, hate and ridicule are prioritized; in order to simply feel good about his cousin Floyd beating Pacquaio and all that really means. Here is a guy - Roger Mayweather - who has given his life to the sport we all love. And here is NostRADAMus kicking and *ridiculing him as he grows old and deteriorates; in ways he can't even bring himself to substantiate and justify - not even when the above-mentioned and unnecessary NostRADAMus *ridicule relates to supposed medical conditions and cures that NostRADAMus claims - but can't in the slightest proves - exist. Talk about hate and hypocrisy. Eating your dog and PEDs is fine though. Talk about dignity Now, I'm not sure if yawl noticed but in the process of NostRADAMus switching definitions from
arthritis of the cranium (post #8) to
diabetes and memory loss (post #40) and him also blessing us with more donkey jive talk he still, amazingly, somehow, "forgot" to tell us - not only what the "magical" vitamins, minerals, and foods were that supported his Rheumatoid arthritis prevention/cure for cervical and synovial deformities claims - but also, really what it is that his "brain-feeding" claims within post #8 really mean. ""Uncles Roger doesn't feed his brains correctly, which is closer to his big-@$$ mouth than his big-@$$ stomach that he only feeds syet foods, sodas and candies to. Holla!"" Over to you cervical, synovial deformity and Rheumatoid arthritis curing NostRADAMus. Any chance you can be as forthright with that information as the other mumbo you're delivering; that diagnoses, cures, and kicks Roger while he's sick? I'm only asking, as I don't know whether we should believe "NostRADAMus" or the "witchdoctor", or someone else. Or, should we believe the science and medicine (that NostRADAMu's quotes when it suits), and also highly respected Orthopedic surgeons? Love it !!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Request for clarification of witchdoctor Rheumatoid arthritis of the cervical spine and skull cure/magic. 1) NostRADAMus; can you please explain what the Scientific and/or medical evidence is that shows the link between curing Rheumatoid arthritis of the cervical spine and skull, "and "dietary intake? So we know you're not just bulljiving/lying about and/or kicking an old man (Roger) for both the sake of it, and also because he helped Floyd embarrass Pac. 2) NostRADAMus; can you please explain precisely what the "magic" vitamins, minerals, foods, and so forth that you vehemently quote and preach of as being a cure for Roger and/or Rheumatoid arthritis of the cervical spine and skull? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Anyway, because the
Storm is always thinking of ya and always seeing the humorous side of things; while we wait for (what will no doubt be eternity, for) the "SnoopDoggyDogDogMermaidHymenSolidGoldArchiveRealit yOfTheActuality" on NostRADAMus' Rheumatoid arthritis remedial magic, and also the details about his "wonderful" dietary intake, vitamins, and minerals that are all related to the NostRADAMus' diagnostic, prevention, and curing abilities . . . Here, let's all chill with this groovy tune whilst NostRADAMus has another sweet puff on his "I can cure the world of all diseases" crack pipe.


PS: last night we had a s?ance (to cast away the evil truth demons) and in doing that we managed to channel into the donkey spirit world. Whilst there we received an SOS message about not just 2 lost issues that were themselves professing to be empty instances of NostRADAMus' very own soul - but there also seemed to be a lonely NostRADAMus himself there playing about - apparently he was drowning in the sea of f/lies. One of the magical donkey spirit world messages we channeled went a little like this . . . . . "Please help me my name is the ""Proven medical/scientific link between curing Rheumatoid arthritis within the cervical spine and it's synovial joints, and NostRADAMu's remedial magic dietary intake, including the magic vitamins, minerals"" soul-spirit. "I am a lost issue created from NostRADAMus' very own claims and soul. "I fear I will remain for eternity as another one of the hundreds of outstanding issues forever banished to the donkey sprit world; as a result of wild claims that donkey spirits have galloped away from in an effort to not only get to far away hills where the grass is greener and the cherry juice sweeter - but also to escape the evil wicked truth". "My existence is a spiritual conundrum, as - due to my creator - I can't exist with the truth being nearby, despite the fact I stand for it" "Please help me and respond to my spiritual SOS, so I am not simply outcast and forever forgotten like all truths that can expose NostRADAMus' claims". The other magical donkey spirit world messages was not as detailed as the first poor soul, and it went a little like this . . . . . "SOS, SOS, SOS, SOS, please Hee-Haw help". My name is the ""MayPac fight video review to support MayPac, Floyd, and other NostRADAMus like claims"" soul spirit.
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?22347-Pacquiao-And-Fans-Better-Get-A-Grip-On-Reality-That-Mayweather-Won&p=86994&viewfull=1#post86994 "I not only fear I will remain for eternity amongst the other hundreds of outstanding claims and/or truths that are forever banished to the sprit world due to donkey spirits running away from themselves and also galloping from both the truth and their claims in an effort to reach greener pastures and sweeter cherry juice - but I also desperately fear that the first donkey spirit you channeled will - that is if you don't help us - simply end up just as forgotten and lonely me. Ever since I was created and my NostRADAMus creator realized that, me, ""the offer to review the MayPac fight video to support other NostRADAMus like claims and cease pretending"" actually existed . . . I have been rejected, forgotten, and outcast to this spiritual donkey domain by my creator' NostRADAMus. "Oh please help us
Storm, as it's such an unreasonably high ransom that we donkey spirits pay for being, even remotely, associated with the evil wicked truth". Now, as much as he would like to straight away, poor old truth worshipping
Storm can't help these "rogue and truthful donkey spirits" unless he can spot a pattern between them and/or NostRADAMus their creator; such is the spirit work policies Now I wonder, can anyone see a NostRADAMus pattern related to hate, claims, and truth?
->http://i.imgur.com/SGl2oTF.jpg All I have to go by is the above information, and the fact that when it comes to NostRADAMus . . . we're talking about a genius at work here folks. These tactics have never been seen before and as such they're utterly baffling. Remember, keep it Snoop Doggy Dog Dog real, and . . . . . In the event you have Rheumatoid arthritis of the skull and/or cervical vertebrae, and your synovial joints are deteriorating, fear not as the remedial magic of NostRADAMus is available to all; all you have to do is; 1) Change your dietary intake to include the "wonderful" vitamins, foods, and minerals that are all related to NostRADAMus' Rheumatoid arthritis of the skull and/or cervical vertebrae's cure. 2) Wait for NostRADAMus to explain precisely what the "wonderful" vitamins, foods, and minerals really are that - do to your Rheumatoid arthritis of the skull and/or cervical vertebrae what no surgeon/hospital currently can, and - cure you. Finally, please don't ask whether any of the above Rheumatoid arthritis of the skull and/or cervical vertebrae cures and remedies conflict with and/or prevent you from your already (NostRADAMus again) prescribed daily intake of watermelon seeds and cherry juice; to ensure that both, your punches are faster/stronger, and therefore "punchers are created". :) :)


-stormcentre :

OMFG the universe is deteriorating - just like the synovial joints within a Rheumatoid arthritic riddled skull and/or cervical vertebrae. Quick . . . . . Someone feed the universes' brain and spine with the correct NostRADAMic; minerals, foods, magic, and vitamins - so it doesn't fold back onto itself and implode into a "black-hole-truthful-singularity". Love it !!!! :) :) :)