Alvarez’s Style And Physicality Will Topple Cotto

The announcements and press tour of the upcoming catch-weight bout between WBC middleweight title holder Miguel Cotto 40-4 (33) and superstar Canelo Alvarez 45-1-1 (32) have begun.

Cotto-Alvarez is the biggest fight in boxing since the Mayweather-Pacquiao farce this past May and it’ll take place on November 21 at the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas.

Boxing fans and aficionados are excited about Cotto-Alvarez because on paper and due to their fighting styles and temperment it should be a fan friendly fight.

The stipulated catch-weight of 155 shouldn’t be a factor since Cotto isn’t a true middleweight and Alvarez has been making 154 fighting as a junior middleweight his entire career. So in the main all things point to a competitive bout.

However, on the other hand if you break it down from a boxing point of view and technical aspect, everything seems to favor Alvarez. And by that I mean if you’re building a case for Cotto to win what can you build your case around? The way I see it there’s only one thing in which you can point to where Cotto clearly owns a significant advantage, and that is experience fighting the best of the best with the world watching. That’s it. Cotto has been in with virtually every big name fighter in boxing campaigning between 140-154. And if you really want to push the envelope, you could add that Cotto was more competitive with Floyd Mayweather than Alvarez was when they both fough him. But that had much to do with their fighting styles than it did Cotto actually being more formidable than Alvarez.

Fighting styles are monumental in determining the outcome between two fighters if they’re both equally skilled and world class. It was style that ultimately decided Mayweather-Pacquiao in favor of Floyd earlier this year. If you look at most of their common opponents, Pacquiao beat them more convincingly than Mayweather did…yet Manny wasn’t even Mayweather’s toughest fight.

As for Cotto-Alvarez, the style match up clearly favors Canelo, and that’s not up for debate. In order for Miguel to beat Canelo this November he’ll have to re-invent himself stylistically and fight more like Floyd Mayweather than Miguel Cotto. Good luck with that. In other words, Cotto will have to use his feet and box. And the reason for that is, Alvarez is the bigger puncher with both hands and has the better chin. So we can forget about Cotto taking it to Alvarez and trying to break him down with his body punching. In fact Cotto’s body attack will be null and void against Alvarez because he’ll be moving back and off to one side or the other. Count on that because Freddie Roach is too smart to implore Cotto to go after Alvarez. And if you’ve watched Cotto fight you know his body punching hasn’t been much of an issue or factor during the bouts in which he’s been forced to jab, box and move away.

If I’m Alvarez I’m relishing the style match up with Cotto. Alvarez isn’t good at cutting off the ring versus a fighter like Mayweather, but he’ll have no problem doing it against the slower hand and footed Cotto. None whatsoever.

In addition to that, Alvarez has an inside outside game and he can hurt Cotto with his left hook and his right hand. Cotto only has a left hook regarding his finishing punches – and he has to be moving forward to get everything on it. If he’s forced to fight in retreat as I believe he will be against Alvarez, I doubt he’ll put much hurt on Canelo. So if Cotto tries to slow the pace and box, I expect Canelo to push the fight with his jab and try to line Cotto up for his right hand, a punch he’ll somewhat be moving in to. Basically, Alvarez will have to force Cotto to rush his shots while he’s moving, a style which is very taxing physically on the fighter who is reacting to the strength and pressure of the opponent, which in this case is Cotto.

At some point during the bout Cotto is going to be forced to hold his ground and fight Canelo off. And when that occurs, you have to think the bigger guns of Alvarez and his better chin will cause Cotto to ultimately get the worst of it. Alvarez will have the easier time and come out less damaged during any fire fight that erupts between them. And when he senses that Cotto is doing everything in his power to avoid them, he’ll do everything he can to make Cotto fight and open up. When that happens Cotto will either get stopped or his vast experience may carry him the distance and he will lose the decision by a wide margin.

I’ve been a huge Cotto fan since he turned pro. He’s had a great career and picking against him is not without danger. Miguel has managed his career brilliantly. He’s fought everybody and has made a ton of money, and that’s great. He’s also smart to fight Canelo before facing Gennady Golovkin because even though I don’t see him beating Alvarez, he at least has a shot, something he wouldn’t have against Golovkin. And if he somehow gets by Alvarez, Golovkin and a ton of money will be waiting for him. But I just don’t think that’s how it will play out.

I see Alvarez having the right style and physicality to beat Cotto, and when that happens it will be Alvarez who moves onto fighting Golovkin in what will be the most anticipated bout in boxing during the year 2016. ?

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COMMENTS

-Kid Blast :

100% agreement. Cotto will be stopped.


-mortcola :

Easy wisdom says Canelo will stop him. But there is a key in what Mayweather and Lara exposed: Canelo, is ROOTED to his feet. He cannot throw anything unless he can ----put---each----foot-----just-----where-----he----needs-----it. A well conditioned Cotto, who fights Canelo like he fought Margarita the second time, can both do more debilitating damage to Canelo than Saul has ever absorbed, and keep him punching at something never quite in range for the full delivery of power. Unlike Lara Mayweather, and even Trout, Cotto WILL be able to tenderize Cannel?s ribs and counter with hard shots often enough to do MORE damage than any of Canelo?s previous immobile victims did - this is not Angulo, Kirkland, or an OLD Mosley, Cintron or Baldomir - Cotto can still deliver more meaningful payloads while moving enough to avoid absorbing too much punishment. Cannel is gifted in some ways - but very exploitable in others. Cano cotton do it for 12 rounds? Not sure. But the very same style points F-Lo makes can be turned around in Cotto?s favor. Miguel doesn?t have to be an ultra-mover like Lara or a fight-neutralizer like Mayweather.....he has to deliver enough hurt while never being LINED UP the way Canelo needs him in order to deliver his punishers, and at least a triumphant UD is his - and along the way, he will hurt Canelo more than the latter is accustomed to. And Boy, did Canelo take some shots from Kirkland, who was a sitting duck every second while it lasted - Saul WILL be hit, and Cotto is a bruising puncher.


-brownsugar :

If you put Canelo and Cotto in a phone booth Canelo will win every time, the kid is sturdy as a mule and can dish out the punishment. The problem is, (as Mort already mentioned) the kid has a huge void in the mobility department. Cotto had a firm foundation and a robust amateur background on the international level. He outboxed Mosley in his prime and was effective against Mayweather utilizing his movement and crisp jab during many rounds of that fight. I believe Canelo can win a toe to toe war with Cotto, but will Cotto oblige Alvarez by standing right in front of him? Even this version of Cotto has more tools in his tool box than Canelo will ever have. Canelo's advantage is size and strength. I give Cotto a good chance to out fox the kid if he boxes smart.


-stormcentre :

Canelo can't lose because Oscar said that he was going to tell Saul all the "secrets" about fight/being a converted southpaw. And we all know how well Oscar has previously transferred fight-plans and secrets to Canelo, so he can deal with common and other opponents. :) :) Jokes and bulljive aside; I think you have to (from an odds perspective) have Canelo as a the favourite - particularly when you look back and see when the last time was that Cotto successfully fought strong opposition. When viewed in that perspective it's hard to get an accurate read on the sundial of Cotto's longevity. But, with all that said, there are still some aspects of the Canelo V Cotto matchup - such as what kind of fight really unfolds - that will definately suit Cotto (or Canelo) better. And, one of them is probably not a full on shoot out whilst Canelo is fresh. Such as what happened in one of the last most memorable Puerto Rican Vs Mexican fights I saw; Vargas V Trinidad. Gotta hand it to Vargas though, for taking on Felix (so early in his career) and also going out for the kill so early. Nando loved to take risks and fight. :)


-deepwater2 :

If you put Canelo and Cotto in a phone booth Canelo will win every time, the kid is sturdy as a mule and can dish out the punishment. The problem is, (as Mort already mentioned) the kid has a huge void in the mobility department. Cotto had a firm foundation and a robust amateur background on the international level. He outboxed Mosley in his prime and was effective against Mayweather utilizing his movement and crisp jab during many rounds of that fight. I believe Canelo can win a toe to toe war with Cotto, but will Cotto oblige Alvarez by standing right in front of him? Even this version of Cotto has more tools in his tool box than Canelo will ever have. Canelo's advantage is size and strength. I give Cotto a good chance to out fox the kid if he boxes smart.
I think if Cotto can box and fight in spurts he can win the fight. The judges might give it to Canelo since he will be walking Cotto down looking to exchange. Cotto needs a perfect fight to win and Canelo just has to keep trying to mix it up. I see a close fight or a possible draw. Then again, Cotto might get old overnight and take a knee as history has shown us. P.S. I think Canelo's trainers have taken him as far as he can go. It might be time to bring in fresh faces depending on this fight.


-brownsugar :

Canelo can't lose because Oscar said that he was going to tell Saul all the "secrets" about fight/being a converted southpaw. And we all know how well Oscar has previously transferred fight-plans and secrets to Canelo, so he can deal with common and other opponents. :) :) Jokes and bulljive aside; I think you have to (from an odds perspective) have Canelo as a the favourite - particularly when you look back and see when the last time was that Cotto successfully fought strong opposition. When viewed in that perspective it's hard to get an accurate read on the sundial of Cotto's longevity. But, with all that said, there are still some aspects of the Canelo V Cotto matchup - such as what kind of fight really unfolds - that will definately suit Cotto (or Canelo) better. And, one of them is probably not a full on shoot out whilst Canelo is fresh. Such as what happened in one of the last most memorable Puerto Rican Vs Mexican fights I saw; Vargas V Trinidad. Gotta hand it to Vargas though, for taking on Felix (so early in his career) and also going out for the kill so early. Nando loved to take risks and fight. :)
Yep, a lot of ifs involved, Canelo barely got past Trout, the fight could have gone either way in my opinion. Then Canelo annihilated two shot fighters (Angulo and Kirkland) Cotto looked spectacular against a crippled Martinez and a weight drainded Geale. And I have to wonder how comfortable Alvarez will be at 155lbs,...the kid should have been fighting at 160 a year ago. Its difficult for me to call a winner. I doubt that Cotto will ever allow himself to get walked down like the way Margarito did years ago. I think this will be a more tactical fight than a blood and guts war. Its hard for me to call it.


-stormcentre :

Yep, a lot of ifs involved, Canelo barely got past Trout, the fight could have gone either way in my opinion. Then Canelo annihilated two shot fighters (Angulo and Kirkland) Cotto looked spectacular against a crippled Martinez and a weight drainded Geale. And I have to wonder how comfortable Alvarez will be at 155lbs,...the kid should have been fighting at 160 a year ago. Its difficult for me to call a winner. I doubt that Cotto will ever allow himself to get walked down like the way Margarito did years ago. I think this will be a more tactical fight than a blood and guts war. Its hard for me to call it.
Yep, if you really think about it, it's a tricky matchup. Canelo did, at times, struggle with Trout. But he also dropped, and beat, him; whereas Cotto was embarrassed by Austin. I am not sure that the catch-weight will significantly drain Canelo, and even if it does a bit he should still be partly rehydrated and also bigger/stronger than Cotto; whom really is still a welterweight. I agree that Cotto's fights with Geale, Martinez, and Rodriguez all have issues with them that justify some level of criticism. And now onto Mayweather; whom is both Canelo and Cotto's other common opponent (other than Trout). Cotto did better against Floyd than Canelo, and he did so for various reasons in my opinion that include being able to remain composed on the big stage and perhaps not be quite so daunted by Floyd's defence, artful punches, and speed. Canelo just came apart once he realised than Floyd was the real deal and a not just little better than he had anticipated - but also able to put on a real show whilst remaining right in front of him, and still doing as he pleased. I don't think Canelo really expected that; whereas Cotto probably did - but even if he didn't Cotto is the type of guy that - with his Puerto Rican attitude, amateur background and professional pedigree - could still suck it up, remain composed, and go to work; despite eating more punches than would normally be the case. Canelo, on the other hand, became bothered and distracted, and - unlike Cotto - unravelled and lost composure. Kirkland, after such a long layoff, was never going to offer much more than 4 or 5 solid rounds. But Angulo - if not technical - was/is a decently tough and durable fighter. I think both guys, Angulo and Kirkland, would give Cotto a rough time for, at least 7 rounds of a 10 round fight; due in no small way to the fact that they're strong middleweights. I'm not sure where Cotto's punch resistance is these days, but I think he takes/holds a shot from (the) Kirkland or Angulo (that Canelo fought) not quite as well as Canelo. Cotto, himself is no smooth mover in the ring. His footwork - whilst possibly better than Canelos - actually makes him very predictable. I can't see Cotto subscribing to a strategy that involves moving too much, unless he is successful in out boxing Canelo in the exchanges; the way Cotto did with Margarito in the early rounds of their first fight. If it were not for Miguel's own chin, he would probably be considered more of a KO artist than he is; as Cotto is a reasonably hard puncher. He knows how to get "force" and "momentum" behind his shots; with a high degree of economy of motion. Even though the Geale, Martinez, and Rodriguez fights have somewhat of a question mark over them; it's still obvious that when Cotto moves in for home runs and hits guys, they either change battle-plans or go to sleep, or both. But for some reasons - perhaps I am reading it wrong - it's (not a lot, but) a bit difficult for me to see Cotto carrying "power" up to middleweight and hurting Canelo; if they start trading. And by trading, I mean in combinations of 3 or more shots each. If Cotto can (right hand) counter (over Saul's jab), close down Canelo's jab, and get his own jab going; spin off, move and keep Canelo plodding and turning; he has the best chance in my opinion. But, Canelo does throw them in pretty hard/fast for a light middleweight, and - even aside from when Cotto last went 12 rounds - I can't see anywhere where Cotto has - in his last 3 or 4 bouts - got himself used to that kind of punch resistance, stamina, and treatment. Where, with Canelo, I can see that he has recently weathered some decent
Storms from guys that can probably deliver hurt in similar if not more quantities than Cotto can now. And, Canelo also seems to have the stamina, punch resistance, determination, and skills to compete at a weight division that Cotto - on almost every chance he gets - looks for ways to covert the bout into a welterweight fight; even if it is not. And, I think that will - that is, unless Cotto is, at this late stage of his career, truly top shelf and iconic legendary boxing material - start to tell after the first 5 or so rounds. Even though Cotto is more experienced and capable of being reasonably technical, and notwithstanding my above comments about the movement strategy for Cotto; strength, stamina, and punch resistance is what this one will come down to. And you would think Canelo has the strength bit in his court. Cotto is pretty crafty too, so his sneaky counters I am rolling up into the punch resistance component; as they will test Canelo's chin. I am discussing it like this because I think that Cotto's superior experience is probably offset by Canelo's youth and slightly more credible, applicable, and recent activity. :) :)


-King Beef :

Canelo can't lose because Oscar said that he was going to tell Saul all the "secrets" about fight/being a converted southpaw. And we all know how well Oscar has previously transferred fight-plans and secrets to Canelo, so he can deal with common and other opponents. :) :) Jokes and bulljive aside; I think you have to (from an odds perspective) have Canelo as a the favourite - particularly when you look back and see when the last time was that Cotto successfully fought strong opposition. When viewed in that perspective it's hard to get an accurate read on the sundial of Cotto's longevity. But, with all that said, there are still some aspects of the Canelo V Cotto matchup - such as what kind of fight really unfolds - that will definately suit Cotto (or Canelo) better. And, one of them is probably not a full on shoot out whilst Canelo is fresh. Such as what happened in one of the last most memorable Puerto Rican Vs Mexican fights I saw; Vargas V Trinidad. Gotta hand it to Vargas though, for taking on Felix (so early in his career) and also going out for the kill so early. Nando loved to take risks and fight. :)
Oscar always has that blueprint doesn't he. All that aside I think this is truly a 50/50 pick-em fight. I was of the mindset that Canelo is going to take this hands down, (and I am still leaning to Canelo) but not so strongly now. You guys bring up good points about his mobility issues, stamina, and the big one...when has Canelo taken some good shots for longer than a few rounds...especially a body puncher like Cotto. Both guys have beat the recent guys they were supposed to, so this should be a good test for both. Whether my pick is right or wrong I will enjoy this one!


-stormcentre :

Oscar always has that blueprint doesn't he. All that aside I think this is truly a 50/50 pick-em fight. I was of the mindset that Canelo is going to take this hands down, (and I am still leaning to Canelo) but not so strongly now. You guys bring up good points about his mobility issues, stamina, and the big one...when has Canelo taken some good shots for longer than a few rounds...especially a body puncher like Cotto. Both guys have beat the recent guys they were supposed to, so this should be a good test for both. Whether my pick is right or wrong I will enjoy this one!
Good points. Yes, Oscar always seems to have the blueprint !!!! In some ways, he's quite a monotonous promoter; especially when it comes to verbally talking up a fight and/or revealing how he will add value. Canelo has some weaknesses too, and that why - as you say - this will be a good fight. When was the last time Canelo taken good shots for longer than a few rounds...especially with a body puncher like Cotto? Would have to be either Mayeather or - depending on your view - Trout. Kirkland, even though it was a shootout, didn't last too long. Can't remember how long Angulo lasted. But - just because of who he is and how he fights - Canelo must have ate some shots from Alfredo in that fight for, at least, a few rounds; if not more. It's going to impressive if Cotto goes into this and executes a style and fight-plan that disregards the weight/strength advantage that Canelo surely must have. :) :)


-michigan400 :

Been watching Cotto for a long time now and almost always root for him. I know he's close to the end but I'd still love to see the old "Caguas Crusher" come out and play again. At 140 he was a legit face breaker (ask Paulie M.) with decent boxing skills and always in a shootout. Even when he shouldn't have been. I'd just like to see the ole boy prove he's not washed up or over the hill and put on a good show!


-Chris L :

I prefer Alvarez to Cotto. But my gut just goes with Cotto on this one, although it's been hard to judge how much he has left he just seems to be the more diverse out of the two.


-King Beef :

Good points. Yes, Oscar always seems to have the blueprint !!!! In some ways, he's quite a monotonous promoter; especially when it comes to verbally talking up a fight and/or revealing how he will add value. Canelo has some weaknesses too, and that why - as you say - this will be a good fight. When was the last time Canelo taken good shots for longer than a few rounds...especially with a body puncher like Cotto? Would have to be either Mayeather or - depending on your view - Trout. Kirkland, even though it was a shootout, didn't last too long. Can't remember how long Angulo lasted. But - just because of who he is and how he fights - Canelo must have ate some shots from Alfredo in that fight for, at least, a few rounds; if not more. It's going to impressive if Cotto goes into this and executes a style and fight-plan that disregards the weight/strength advantage that Canelo surely must have. :) :)
You are right Storm, my mind doesn't let me associate big punches and Mayweather ( I feel like he doesn't put his all into his shots.. to preserve those tender hands) but Canelo wasn't backing up from time to time for no reason in their fight, and the same way these pressure fighters always seem to stop coming forward as much and keep their hands at home....so I guess those Mayweather's shots have alittle more on them than it seems! It will be interesting if Cotto fights like you mention, but I have a funny feeling if Canelo happens to be alittle stronger or rocks Cotto, we may see a technician version of Cotto show up. Cotto has been around long enough to make this adjustment without relying on his corner, whereas Canelo may need to look to his corner for help if he has to adjust.


-stormcentre :

You are right Storm, my mind doesn't let me associate big punches and Mayweather ( I feel like he doesn't put his all into his shots.. to preserve those tender hands) but Canelo wasn't backing up from time to time for no reason in their fight, and the same way these pressure fighters always seem to stop coming forward as much and keep their hands at home....so I guess those Mayweather's shots have alittle more on them than it seems! It will be interesting if Cotto fights like you mention, but I have a funny feeling if Canelo happens to be alittle stronger or rocks Cotto, we may see a technician version of Cotto show up. Cotto has been around long enough to make this adjustment without relying on his corner, whereas Canelo may need to look to his corner for help if he has to adjust.
Yes, I know what you mean KB. Even though Floyd dropped almost every technical punch and move in the book on Cotto; Floyd is not really a KO puncher at welterweight - not with top quality opposition anyway. And for that reason Cotto also had his moments with Floyd too. I have not seen too many of Cotto's opponents (read; none) - that fought Cotto at his natural weight - control Cotto as Floyd did, and also drop all those tricky and beautiful punches/moves on him that Mayweather did. That's really hard to do; technically dominate a guy like Cotto, like that. Agree with your other sentiments too; Cotto - which is what I love about him - has that real ""OK, let's just get on with it and put a few rounds in the bank and see what (you and) the fight looks like then,"" even when things are tougher than expected. As a fan, I like Cotto better than Saul. But I still lean a little more towards Canelo in this one. And, a lot of that has to do with not being able to get a good/accurate read, from Cotto's last few fights, on precisely where Cotto is right now. At least not to the same extent as (we can get a good read on) how his pre-fight negotiations suggest risk management in quantities that are becoming both larger and more regular; perhaps symbolised by catch-weights and the catch-weight trainer of the decade - Roach. Food for thought. :) :)


-dino da vinci :

For the life of me I can't understand how Canelo is -300. Love Canelo, yes he's great for the sport but I don't see what others do. I'm old enough to know (virtually) anybody can get steamrolled once a fight begins but on paper I don't see such a big discrepancy between the two. While maybe not quite "pick'em", I make Alvarez a modest favorite. I'm already in with Cotto +250. I would have taken less and still have been happy. Great value with an A+ fighter. Should be a good bout.


-stormcentre :

I think that's because sometimes there's a bigger statement in what people do, rather than say. Both fighters, and one promoter is "saying" all the expected things. But what about the "do" part; which can, and should, influence the odds.
Cotto: With Cotto - despite how much of a great fighter he has been and may still be - you have all those question marks over his last few fights, even though he performed well in most of them. Those "Riddler insignias" simply would not be there if both he and Roach were not worried about something. Cotto (and especially Roach) seems to have become quite fond of ensuring the fight is noticeably skewed to their favour before it begins; to such an obvious extent (and this is what's reasonably unique in the sport) that they simply don't care how obvious it really is. Such things, not so long ago, were usually arranged/negotiated in a manner where as much confidentiality as possible was sewn into the fabric of the deal; not so much with Cotto now, and especially with Roach Cotto is older, and has more wear/tear, experience, and ambiguity surrounding his current potential.
Canelo: Then, on the other hand, you have Canelo whom has "looked" reasonably impressive (at least to line makers) in several of his recent fights; despite there possibly being an untold story serving as a metaphor for all that has underpinned them. Canelo is younger, and has less wear/tear, experience, and ambiguity surrounding his current potential. Canelo has petered out in the latter rounds in some of his fights, but then the ambiguity surrounding Cotto's current abilities and how frequently he's gone 12 may all conspire to deliver the same stamina issues we discuss of Canelo. Cotto performed better with Mayweather than Canelo, but then Canelo did way, way better with Trout than Cotto. Given all that Dino; seems to me that the lines makers may have Canelo perhaps a little too favoured, but then you never know if they're also trying to pull the bets more than required too. Sometimes you shoot high to hit low. I can see however, based on a non detailed understanding of the fight, how most could heavily favour Canelo. As what he "appears" to have "done" factually stands out more than Cotto. And as they say, "perception" is 9/10's of (the actuality of the) reality. :) :)


-dino da vinci :

Levi Martinez had no idea to what he was watching in the Lara fight. If Lara didn't run halfway across the ring every time he made Canelo miss it might have been a different perception. I maintain Cotto is a very live underdog. Last point, Storm. Throw out the Trout fight, and it becomes easier to see my point.


-The Good Doctor :

For the life of me I can't understand how Canelo is -300. Love Canelo, yes he's great for the sport but I don't see what others do. I'm old enough to know (virtually) anybody can get steamrolled once a fight begins but on paper I don't see such a big discrepancy between the two. While maybe not quite "pick'em", I make Alvarez a modest favorite. I'm already in with Cotto +250. I would have taken less and still have been happy. Great value with an A+ fighter. Should be a good bout.
Canelo -300. Interesting. Always remember though odds and lines are about getting people to bet.........nothing else. I am probably the biggest Cotto fan on here and I think my guy is going to pull this out. If you are a heavy bag or a straightforward guy (i.e Kirkland, Lopez, Baldomir, Angulo) Canelo will smoke you. He can club with the best of them. However, his head moves about as much as a 2 ton boulder, his feet are real suspect if he has to move, and he is not the quickest guy on earth. That is a recipe to be beaten by a boxer. Trout gave him trouble, Gomez was competitive before he caught and was stopped prematurely, Lara may have beaten him, and Floyd can argue did not lose a round. Freddie is notorious for getting guys to offensively pick apart straight ahead or primarily stationary fighters. His work with Pac, Hop, Khan, and Cotto have shown that. I think this one is no different. Cotto fights a little like he did against Margarito the second time and wins.


-brownsugar :

Interesting odds, I hear all of confidence from those betting on Cotto. ...... Cotto is consistent, well schooled and versatile. Trout allowed Alvarez to bluff him after he was partially successful throwing ambush uppercuts while he was resting on the ropes. When Canelo tried that against Floyd, he just harrassed him by landing a few long range jabs and potshots from the outside until the Alvarez got tired of getting hit and shifted his position. I'm sure Cotto wont be fooled by that elemtary tactic either. I like what im hearing about Cotto. They say He's well rested, well prepared mentally and is a better thinker inside the ring than Canelo. While Cotto was fighting and beating amateurs from the Ukraine during his amateur years, Canelo got his degree in the sweet science by beating up on stiffs from Tijuana. So while he may be well worn around the edges, Cotto seems to have recovered nicely from his past losses and has renewed his focus on boxing. But all this has been said before. Im just eager to watch Cotto is as live as a live dog can get. If i were a betting man i'd get a piece of that too.


-stormcentre :

Levi Martinez had no idea to what he was watching in the Lara fight. If Lara didn't run halfway across the ring every time he made Canelo miss it might have been a different perception. I maintain Cotto is a very live underdog. Last point, Storm. Throw out the Trout fight, and it becomes easier to see my point.
Love it !! ""Last point (Storm), throw out your point and it becomes easier to see my point"." That's artistically brilliant in ways you probably never intended. :) I do see (and share) your point Dino. I have previously posted that Canelo is overrated as a marquee fighter, and that Cotto is not entirely without a chance here. Levi Martinez can be an interesting judge to look at, particularly for the Lara V Canelo fight, but that fight in itself could tell us as much about Canelo as it also could mislead us. For instance; from that fight there has been some assessments that state Canelo will have a hard time dealing with movement. But, you could flip that coin and say that Canelo was not entirely discouraged with Lara even though he couldn't meaningfully catch him and sustain an attack. Lara is not less technically proficient than Cotto in my opinion, and he would probably give Cotto an awfully hard time over 12 rounds - if not beat him with relative ease. This, to me, is another area where the Trout fight comes into play; as Lara easily beat Trout. Hypotheticals I know, but I don't think that Canelo will need too many more fights to correct/learn (if he hasn't already) some of the fundamental mistakes he made with there by not being able to cut off the ring with a guy like Lara whom is pretty slick and moves fast. Even though I am not predicting a complete blowout for Canelo (cause I am not confident in what strategy Cotto will employ) I won't be too surprised to hear that Cotto gets blown away and/or stopped by Saul; especially if they start letting go of the heavy artillery early. But yes, I see your point. Forget about the Trout V Canelo fight and what it may mean from a common opponent perspective, and you have the odds for Cotto looking a bit better, and the ones for Canelo not so far out into the distance and high magnitudes. This - even aside from the Mexcican/Rican influence, which is always good - is going to be a good fight, and not only because there are a little more unknowns and/or questions hanging over each guy than is usually the case - but also because both guys are, at least, good top level fighters. :)