Duva and Michel Dialoguing About Kovalev-Beterbiev

Kovalev-Duva

The Sergey Kovalev-Nadjib Mohammedi bout was a bit of a bummer, being that Mo got stopped out early, without being in the fight for a second. We knew he was in tough, but hoped–maybe too optimistically?—that he'd rise to the occasion, summon a warrior reservoir and at least make it grueling for a few moments for Krusher. Not so…

But the disappointment turned around a tad when Kovalev promoter Kathy Duva told me Sunday she wanted to make a November fight for Sergey, in Russia, against young bomber Artur Beterbiev. That caught my attention…Yeah?

Indeed…she said she'd be reaching out to Beterbiev promoter Yvon Michel ASAP and get that promotion to fruition. Monday, she told me…

So I checked in with Michel Tuesday. The Canada-based dealmaker, who is part of Team Beterbiev, along with uber advisor Al Haymon, replied on whether or not he'd heard from Duva.

Sunday night, he admitted he wasn't sure how things would proceed, as he and Duva have beefed before, after Haymon signed Adonis Stevenson, while Duva and Michel were crafting an Adonis Stevenson-Sergey Kovalev showdown. Did you hear from Kathy, Yvon?

“Yes, she is a lady of her word,” Michel told me. “We got a proposal and dialogue has been established. We are going in the right direction!”

Amen…let's keep it up, y'all, for the good of the sport!

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-Bernie Campbell :

My idea of Nirvana woul be a photo of Kathy Duva with associated bra and panties with the day of the week on it! Picture that! Yowwwwwww!


-Radam G :

My idea of Nirvana woul be a photo of Kathy Duva with associated bra and panties with the day of the week on it! Picture that! Yowwwwwww!
Cut da crap! Let that male pig chauvinist jive be a rap! Hehehe! C'mon, B-Camp! Be a man, because you can! Holla!


-oubobcat :

This fight has absolutely zero chance of happening and everyone involved knows it. Why? Well even if Duva wants its bad and Michel wants its bad, guess who has the final say. Al Haymon, of course. And there is zero chance of him doing business with Main Events or HBO (whom Kovalev is under contract). Everyone knows it and this is all pointless posturing by both sides. Just remember when Duva and Haymon went head to head a few months ago with a potential purse bid for Kovalev-Stevenson (that Duva insisted on), well it was posturing and in the end Duva blinked. Again, zero chance this fight happens so pointless to even discuss it. Kovalev will fight Vasily Lepikhin, another Main Events fighter who also is Russian for this fight in Moscow. Mark it down right now. Then of course we get the rematch next February March with Pascal for Kovalev. Beterbiev, I believe, is going to be moved by Haymon into a big fight with Stevenson next year in Canada where the fight would be a large draw. This is a big reason Stevenson is taking on another soft touch. He knows the plan and is milking the title, with Haymon's blessing, for as much as he can before he steps into a high risk fight. Haymon, though, sees Beterbiev as the future and maybe his version of Golovkin. That's the plan folks and it does not involve Kovalev-Beterbiev.


-brownsugar :

I disagree, Haymon's number one rule is to keep his fighters happy, Russell got Lomanchenko, Dirrell got Degale, and Mayweather got Pac,....also after months of chasing Mares, the Cruz Mares fight is happening in october as well. Also if Haymon can make fights with his sworn enemy Arum ( approximately 5 fights got done in the last several years). He won't let a little thing like an attempted lawsuit from Duva prevent this fight from happening,....although it most likely probably won't go smooth and easy. This fight is the Sugar Ray vs Thomas Hearns of mother Russia.....Americans will not understand or grasp the interest of what this encounter means in Russia. Russia has arguably one of the most dominant amateur programs on the planet. And the entire country values boxing far more than their american counterparts who spend most of their time bowing before the throne of Basketball and Football. This fight is a gold mine in Russia. Beterbiev has been calling for Kovalev since he first turned pro, I can't believe that Haymon doesn't know or comprehend what Kovalev has been focusing on his entire pro career. One of Haymon's most appealing attributes (according to his signees) is that those who sign with his organization always boast about getting what the want, whether its the easy or hard road. If not, Beterbiev is so intent on issuing another beat down on Kovalev, I believe he would leave Haymon and the fight would still happen, ... the man has a masters, and a bachelors, ... a law degree and is working on a doctorate,.... I simply can't believe he signed his whole life away to Haymon and has no option or voice in the relationship. Beterbiev will get his shot, but he may find out that actually beating Kovalev is nowhere as easy as it was in the amateur ranks, Be careful what you wish for.


-Radam G :

I disagree, Haymon's number one rule is to keep his fighters happy, Russell got Lomanchenko, Dirrell got Degale, and Mayweather got Pac,....also after months of chasing Mares, the Cruz Mares fight is happening in october as well. Also if Haymon can make fights with his sworn enemy Arum ( approximately 5 fights got done in the last several years). He won't let a little thing like an attempted lawsuit from Duva prevent this fight from happening,....although it most likely probably won't go smooth and easy. This fight is the Sugar Ray vs Thomas Hearns of mother Russia.....Americans will not understand or grasp the interest of what this encounter means in Russia. Russia has arguably one of the most dominant amateur programs on the planet. And the entire country values boxing far more than their american counterparts who spend most of their time bowing before the throne of Basketball and Football. This fight is a gold mine in Russia. Beterbiev has been calling for Kovalev since he first turned pro, I can't believe that Haymon doesn't know or comprehend what Kovalev has been focusing on his entire pro career. One of Haymon's most appealing attributes (according to his signees) is that those who sign with his organization always boast about getting what the want, whether its the easy or hard road. If not, Beterbiev is so intent on issuing another beat down on Kovalev, I believe he would leave Haymon and the fight would still happen, ... the man has a masters, and a bachelors, ... a law degree and is working on a doctorate,.... I simply can't believe he signed his whole life away to Haymon and has no option or voice in the relationship. Beterbiev will get his shot, but he may find out that actually beating Kovalev is nowhere as easy as it was in the amateur ranks, Be careful what you wish for.
I disagree! BIG business man tsAH keeps himself happy, not his signed pugs. He got them tied up in a way that they crossover at his demand to fight the opposition. His so-called sworn enemies are business cohorts first and foremost. He has dumped a lot of pugs, including Mickey Bey, for not obeying him. That "advisor" contract that he has is euphemistic for pseudoslave master with benefits. Holla!


-Bernie Campbell :

RadamG.....Oh I guess its alright if you advocate for Homosexual Marriage and Transexuals! Its alright if you oodle with the thought of Female Pugilism, but someone cant indulge in good red blooded American admiration of a beautiful woman like Ms. Duva. I suppose it would be more appealing to you to see Lou Duva in A Bra and Panties for your liking more Where is the justice here boy?!


-Radam G :

RadamG.....Oh I guess its alright if you advocate for Homosexual Marriage and Transexuals! Its alright if you oodle with the thought of Female Pugilism, but someone cant indulge in good red blooded American admiration of a beautiful woman like Ms. Duva. I suppose it would be more appealing to you to see Lou Duva in A Bra and Panties for your liking more Where is the justice here boy?!
Hehehehe! WOW! You are grand with da slick wisecracks. I'm cracking up laughing my flat, Flilipino arse off. You are killin' it with comedy. Holla!


-brownsugar :

The possibility of this fight is great news, both Yvon Michel and Al Haymon are in agreement with staging the fight and are willing to fight on HBO. According to Yvon Michel who handles an impressive stable of boxers who are not from the united states, the first thing Beterbiev ask him when they met, was if he could get him kovalev. Yvon replied with an emphatic YES. Apparently Beterbiev wants a decent payday but has also stated that he is in no way pricing himself out of the competition. And assures everyone involved that his price will be more than reasonable. Kovalev stated yesterday that he'll KRUSH his former conquerer before a hometown crowd in their native country .....Russia in November. The sheer audacity of Beterbiev coming after Kovalev (like he stole something)...and the unmitigated hostility coming from Kovalev ( whom I predicted over two years ago would ascend to the top of the lightheavyweights) is unmatched in today's era of micro- managed boxers. I'm having a hard time seeing how this plays out in the ring because I haven't seen enough of Beterbiev. Kovalev should have a sizable edge in experience..... ... I predict a fight full of ebbs and flows of titanic proportions as each fighter digs into their personal reservoir of blood sweat and tears to seize by force the title of " The Best Lightheavy on the Planet" . It may not happen immediately in November, but its going down one way or another. I just hope I can see Beterbiev in another fight so I can better gauge his abilities. The 38 year old Adonis Stevenson may as well cash out against either one of these guys soon. Its better than rotting on the vine for free....or aging out of the game against fighters of Karpensky's ilk.


-stormcentre :

I disagree, Haymon's number one rule is to keep his fighters happy, Russell got Lomanchenko, Dirrell got Degale, and Mayweather got Pac,....also after months of chasing Mares, the Cruz Mares fight is happening in october as well. Also if Haymon can make fights with his sworn enemy Arum ( approximately 5 fights got done in the last several years). He won't let a little thing like an attempted lawsuit from Duva prevent this fight from happening,....although it most likely probably won't go smooth and easy. This fight is the Sugar Ray vs Thomas Hearns of mother Russia.....Americans will not understand or grasp the interest of what this encounter means in Russia. Russia has arguably one of the most dominant amateur programs on the planet. And the entire country values boxing far more than their american counterparts who spend most of their time bowing before the throne of Basketball and Football. This fight is a gold mine in Russia. Beterbiev has been calling for Kovalev since he first turned pro, I can't believe that Haymon doesn't know or comprehend what Kovalev has been focusing on his entire pro career. One of Haymon's most appealing attributes (according to his signees) is that those who sign with his organization always boast about getting what the want, whether its the easy or hard road. If not, Beterbiev is so intent on issuing another beat down on Kovalev, I believe he would leave Haymon and the fight would still happen, ... the man has a masters, and a bachelors, ... a law degree and is working on a doctorate,.... I simply can't believe he signed his whole life away to Haymon and has no option or voice in the relationship. Beterbiev will get his shot, but he may find out that actually beating Kovalev is nowhere as easy as it was in the amateur ranks, Be careful what you wish for.
Good post and fair call OBC. . . On the matter of Duva V Haymon, personally I don't think it was all posturing from Kathy's POV. She's a pretty real business woman that has felt pain, knows how tough life can be, and she will usually not get into a big false drama and/or fluff up just for the sake of it; unless "her back is against the wall". And to some extent you could model the scenario that was present at the time with those words. The real reason - as far as I am aware anyway - that Duva "blinked" and/or dropped the law suit was because Kovalev V Hopkins was made, and therefore she (or Main Events) actually had no damages; which means her legal case - despite any of its initial merit - would have certainly lost in court down the home stretch - as it was all ultimately underpinned by the claim that Main Events (ME) had suffered a loss (damages) as a result of the Kovalev V Stevenson fight not happening . . something she attributed to Haymon. However - and this is particularly true if we believe the stuff written about how manipulative and controlling PBC and/or other advisor, manager, promoters can be - the writ itself was probably a reasonably smart business move on Kathy and ME's parts. I say that as the ME writ effectively; A) Fired a shot across the bows to say to its recipients, ""I may be a small player and a woman, but I have rights and will not be pushed around, especially when both, agreements and the law are stepped over to do so and it also disadvantages me and my fighters"". B) Brought forward a signature fight for her main star Sergey Kovalev; as - perhaps with the exclusion of Roy Jones - no-one previously had dominated Bernard the way Kovalev did. :) :)


-stormcentre :

I disagree, Haymon's number one rule is to keep his fighters happy, Russell got Lomanchenko, Dirrell got Degale, and Mayweather got Pac,....also after months of chasing Mares, the Cruz Mares fight is happening in october as well. Also if Haymon can make fights with his sworn enemy Arum ( approximately 5 fights got done in the last several years). He won't let a little thing like an attempted lawsuit from Duva prevent this fight from happening,....although it most likely probably won't go smooth and easy. This fight is the Sugar Ray vs Thomas Hearns of mother Russia.....Americans will not understand or grasp the interest of what this encounter means in Russia. Russia has arguably one of the most dominant amateur programs on the planet. And the entire country values boxing far more than their american counterparts who spend most of their time bowing before the throne of Basketball and Football. This fight is a gold mine in Russia. Beterbiev has been calling for Kovalev since he first turned pro, I can't believe that Haymon doesn't know or comprehend what Kovalev has been focusing on his entire pro career. One of Haymon's most appealing attributes (according to his signees) is that those who sign with his organization always boast about getting what the want, whether its the easy or hard road. If not, Beterbiev is so intent on issuing another beat down on Kovalev, I believe he would leave Haymon and the fight would still happen, ... the man has a masters, and a bachelors, ... a law degree and is working on a doctorate,.... I simply can't believe he signed his whole life away to Haymon and has no option or voice in the relationship. Beterbiev will get his shot, but he may find out that actually beating Kovalev is nowhere as easy as it was in the amateur ranks, Be careful what you wish for.
Good post and fair call OBC. . . On the matter of Duva V Haymon, personally I don't think it was all posturing from Kathy's POV. She's a pretty real business woman that has felt pain, knows how tough life can be, and she will usually not get into a big false drama and/or fluff up just for the sake of it; unless "her back is against the wall". And to some extent you could model the scenario that was present at the time with those words. The real reason - as far as I am aware anyway - that Duva "blinked" and/or dropped the law suit was because Kovalev V Hopkins was made, and therefore she (or Main Events) actually had no damages; which means her legal case - despite any of its initial merit - would have certainly lost in court down the home stretch - as it was all ultimately underpinned by the claim that Main Events (ME) had suffered a loss (damages) as a result of the Kovalev V Stevenson fight not happening . . something she attributed to Haymon. However - and this is particularly true if we believe the stuff written about how manipulative and controlling PBC and/or other advisor, manager, promoters can be - the writ itself was probably a reasonably smart business move on Kathy and ME's parts. I say that as the ME writ effectively; A) Described how a potential fight between Stevenson and Kovalev, and therefore any related revenue (which would not be insignificant) was unnecessarily stifled due to - what Main Events at the time strongly believed was - interference from others, including Haymon. B) Fired a shot across the bows to say to its recipients, ""I may be a small player and a woman, but I have rights and will not be pushed around, especially when both, agreements and the law are stepped over to do so and it also disadvantages me and my fighters"". C) Brought forward a signature fight for her main star Sergey Kovalev; as - perhaps with the exclusion of Roy Jones - no-one previously had dominated Bernard the way Kovalev did. I agree with you that Kovalev will probably meet Pascal again down the line. :) :)


-stormcentre :

This fight has absolutely zero chance of happening and everyone involved knows it. Why? Well even if Duva wants its bad and Michel wants its bad, guess who has the final say. Al Haymon, of course. And there is zero chance of him doing business with Main Events or HBO (whom Kovalev is under contract). Everyone knows it and this is all pointless posturing by both sides. Just remember when Duva and Haymon went head to head a few months ago with a potential purse bid for Kovalev-Stevenson (that Duva insisted on), well it was posturing and in the end Duva blinked. Again, zero chance this fight happens so pointless to even discuss it. Kovalev will fight Vasily Lepikhin, another Main Events fighter who also is Russian for this fight in Moscow. Mark it down right now. Then of course we get the rematch next February March with Pascal for Kovalev. Beterbiev, I believe, is going to be moved by Haymon into a big fight with Stevenson next year in Canada where the fight would be a large draw. This is a big reason Stevenson is taking on another soft touch. He knows the plan and is milking the title, with Haymon's blessing, for as much as he can before he steps into a high risk fight. Haymon, though, sees Beterbiev as the future and maybe his version of Golovkin. That's the plan folks and it does not involve Kovalev-Beterbiev.
Good post and fair call OBC. . . On the matter of Duva V Haymon, personally I don't think it was all posturing from Kathy's POV. She's a pretty real business woman that has felt pain, knows how tough life can be, and she will usually not get into a big false drama and/or fluff up just for the sake of it; unless "her back is against the wall". And to some extent you could model the scenario that was present at the time with those words. The real reason - as far as I am aware anyway - that Duva "blinked" and/or dropped the law suit was because Kovalev V Hopkins was made, and therefore she (or Main Events) actually had no damages; which means her legal case - despite any of its initial merit - would have certainly lost in court down the home stretch - as it was all ultimately underpinned by the claim that Main Events (ME) had suffered a loss (damages) as a result of the Kovalev V Stevenson fight not happening . . something she attributed to Haymon. However - and this is particularly true if we believe the stuff written about how manipulative and controlling PBC and/or other advisor, manager, promoters can be - the writ itself was probably a reasonably smart business move on Kathy and ME's parts. I say that as the ME writ effectively; A) Described how a potential fight between Stevenson and Kovalev, and therefore any related revenue (which would not be insignificant) was unnecessarily stifled due to - what Main Events at the time strongly believed was - interference from others, including Haymon. B) Fired a shot across the bows to say to its recipients, ""I may be a small player and a woman, but I have rights and will not be pushed around, especially when both, agreements and the law are stepped over to do so and it also disadvantages me and my fighters"". C) Brought forward a signature fight for her main star Sergey Kovalev; as - perhaps with the exclusion of Roy Jones - no-one previously had dominated Bernard the way Kovalev did. I agree with you that Kovalev will probably meet Pascal again down the line. :) :)


-King Beef :

The possibility of this fight is great news, both Yvon Michel and Al Haymon are in agreement with staging the fight and are willing to fight on HBO. According to Yvon Michel who handles an impressive stable of boxers who are not from the united states, the first thing Beterbiev ask him when they met, was if he could get him kovalev. Yvon replied with an emphatic YES. Apparently Beterbiev wants a decent payday but has also stated that he is in no way pricing himself out of the competition. And assures everyone involved that his price will be more than reasonable. Kovalev stated yesterday that he'll KRUSH his former conquerer before a hometown crowd in their native country .....Russia in November. The sheer audacity of Beterbiev coming after Kovalev (like he stole something)...and the unmitigated hostility coming from Kovalev ( whom I predicted over two years ago would ascend to the top of the lightheavyweights) is unmatched in today's era of micro- managed boxers. I'm having a hard time seeing how this plays out in the ring because I haven't seen enough of Beterbiev. Kovalev should have a sizable edge in experience..... ... I predict a fight full of ebbs and flows of titanic proportions as each fighter digs into their personal reservoir of blood sweat and tears to seize by force the title of " The Best Lightheavy on the Planet" . It may not happen immediately in November, but its going down one way or another. I just hope I can see Beterbiev in another fight so I can better gauge his abilities. The 38 year old Adonis Stevenson may as well cash out against either one of these guys soon. Its better than rotting on the vine for free....or aging out of the game against fighters of Karpensky's ilk.
Did they work that out B-Sug?, I thought I saw that the HBO thing was a sticking point; Yvon and Beterbiev had a problem with HBO being the only option, and not having the opportunity to get the most cash out of the deal.


-brownsugar :

Did they work that out B-Sug?, I thought I saw that the HBO thing was a sticking point; Yvon and Beterbiev had a problem with HBO being the only option, and not having the opportunity to get the most cash out of the deal.
Surprisingly this is more than just talk. Some of the hurdles have already been eliminated KingBeef, Usually when contenders challenge for the title, they have to commit to additional options imposed by the champions promoter. Arum is famous for that, as most of the more well known promoters are accustomed to utilizing the process. However its been recently reported on BN that the only additional clause Duva has added was a rematch clause in the event that Kovalev loses. Secondly HBO has allowed for an exception of their "Non-acceptance-of-any Al Haymon product" on HBO. HBO understands that Beterbiev vs Kovalev is the Sugar Ray vs Hearns of Russia,....their social media is lighting up with excitement as we speak on the potential matchup. A fair purse has been offered by Duva, and according to Yvon Michel, Beterbiev's manager, Haymon is OK with having the fight.... So we will soon find out how it goes in the next few weeks. Neither Haymon or Duva will be jawboning in the press much,.... But Kovalev is reportedly ready to KRUSH Beterbiev's career before it gets started, while Beterbiev has been telling Kovalev that he will whip him even worse than he did in the amateurs..... Hopefully we can get the fight on HBO Nov 28 if negotiations are successful. I have my fingers crossed.