Big Problems Await Adrien Broner

Former three division title holder Adrien “The Problem” Broner 30-2 (22) now has a problem. And it was on full display this past Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The problem for Broner is he was beaten up for 12 rounds by former IBF title holder Shawn Porter 26-1 (16) in a high profile welterweight bout that was contested with a 144 catch-weight stipulation.

The thinking before the fight was Porter would be the one most compromised by having to come in at 144.

It was just a couple years ago that some observers were looking at Broner as being the next Floyd Mayweather stylistically along with his over the top garish “look at me” personality. Two losses later it’s painfully obvious that he’s not that fighter nor does he possess Mayweather’s maturity as a fighter. And since he isn’t as good as Mayweather, he’s even more annoying and harder to take as a person. At only 25, Broner’s career is in bad shape after getting worked over by Porter.

The worst part for Broner is, he’s a very physically gifted and skilled boxer. He has quick hands and feet, good reflexes and he has more than adequate power when he lines everything up. However, he lacks one thing that elite fighters all have – and that is he’s not hard inside or outside. He was cruising along good until a rough ‘n tough guy named Marcos Maidana 35-5 (31) got in face and showed up with the intention of fighting him and not allowing him to box. Broner was overwhelmed by Maidana’s aggression and was down twice in the fight. Yes, he got up and tried to come back, but he was too far off his game by then and was fighting Maidana’s fight and suffered his first defeat. He was given a pass by most after the fight because Maidana’s crude aggression has thrown off many others, that along with the plausibility in which Broner probably overrated himself and played Maidana cheap before the bout.

This time Broner doesn’t have that luxury to fall back on those excuses to bail himself out with for his thumping at the hands of Shawn Porter. Broner knew going in that Porter, 27, wasn’t intimidated or in awe of him. And everybody knows that Porter is a serious guy who trains his rear-end off and is certainly no joke. Porter knew going in that if he took the fight to Broner that Adrien would come undone and be reduced to a jab and a big hook or right hand after it strategy, and that’s not boxing. Porter had no trouble dealing with the ‘escape, attempt a quick-counter and then hold’ pattern Broner lapsed into. Against Porter, it was on display for all to see that Broner isn’t a terrific boxer like Mayweather, Andre Ward or Terence Crawford. He’s really just fast and flashy, and that doesn’t hold off or neutralize real fighters like Maidana and Porter.

The problem for “The Problem” is now all the top junior welterweights and welterweights know it for a fact. I have to think that the elite fighters campaigning in between 140-147 will now step into the ring with Broner and view him as a guy who really doesn’t like it when the heat is turned up. His flashiness disguised as boxing doesn’t hold up. And it seems as though Broner doesn’t even realize it. Adrien doesn’t grasp that winning is the most important thing. With it comes the money and the notoriety, but it starts with winning and that has to be paramount to all fighters at every level. Bernard Hopkins knew it and obviously Mayweather got it.

If you want further proof that Broner doesn’t get it as a fighter or person – he said after the fight, “Listen, I still will fight anybody. It don’t matter, man. I’m a real animal. I’m an animal,” said Broner. “This time I didn’t get the decision, but it’s OK. At the end of the day, everybody in here will take my autograph and take my picture.”

No, Adrien. You’re almost to the point that no one has interest in you fighting anybody. And why should they when the two best fighters you had in front of you put you down and the other had you holding and looking to land the desperate Tyson-esque elbow on the inside. If you’re an animal, Adrien, at least when facing world class opposition, you’re a mountain lion that’s been de-clawed. You didn’t get the decision? Oh, it must have been a flip of a coin and it turned up for Porter on June 20th. You didn’t get the decision because Porter beat you up, other than one big left hook that you landed in the 12th round when you realized that your career was teetering on you becoming nothing more than a side show for future main events.

Broner’s career is at a crossroad and he’s just 25. He’s not getting any better, actually, he’s regressed. And I don’t think he realizes it and is willing to do the work necessary to hopefully get it back on track. He’s one loss away from becoming a trial horse and gate keeper. Add to that there’s a book on how to fight him now, which translates into every future opponent he faces now believing in their heart they can beat him. Now everybody will bring their A-game for Adrien Broner.

As of this writing the interest most fans probably have in Adrien Broner is watching and hoping he fails. And he really is too skilled to be at that stage at 25 only years old. Now the guy who flushed twenty dollar bills down the toilet is on the verge of his career being flushed down the toilet.

Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com

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COMMENTS

-stormcentre :

Broner is trapped in a; ************************************** //Main numpty SubRoutine. ************************************** A) Style that he can't emulate. B) Weight division that he can't - at the top level and without PBC - compete in. Properly. //Yep apply "properly" to the end of both "A" and "B". //And all that is wrapped up in the following routine; ************************************** //Main numpty Routine. ************************************** Main routine code line 1; open mouth first, think (and possibly fight even 50% as self-predicted) later, and then deny the result. Main routine code line 2; Return to main routine code line 1 until subroutine "A" or "B equals false. ************************************** //End program when common sense finally arrives.


-Froggy :

I think he is basically finished, can blame only himself !


-SouthPawFlo :

Broner is still more popular than Porter..... Even with the Lost, there's been way more articles on this and other websites about him, but I still haven't seen much about the "excellence of Porter"


-Froggy :

Broner is still more popular than Porter..... Even with the Lost, there's been way more articles on this and other websites about him, but I still haven't seen much about the "excellence of Porter"
So people will still want a picture and an autograph from Broner ? Good for him, I hope it pays some bills, cause his income from boxing is going down !


-deepwater2 :

Floyd and tsAH should serve up Broner to Spence or Thurman ASAP. At 147. Broner needs redemption against a top guy, not 3 easy fights in a row like last time. Its an insult to Thurman to fight Spence at this time. Thurman has been matched kinda soft as per tsAH but he has done what he was supposed to. I bet Thurman wishes he went with Roc Nation. Spence might take over the weight class but he needs a good name and Lo Greco wasn't really it, especially on short notice.


-SouthPawFlo :

Broner is only 25, and I think he has a lot of career left.... He needs to stay at 140 because he hasn't fared well at welterweight, but Broner even in a loss is still a draw and Haymon will keep him on TV, expect to see Broner back in September and December... Again, why no talk about Shawn Porter???


-stormcentre :

Broner is only 25, and I think he has a lot of career left.... He needs to stay at 140 because he hasn't fared well at welterweight, but Broner even in a loss is still a draw and Haymon will keep him on TV, expect to see Broner back in September and December...
Again, why no talk about Shawn Porter???
I can, obviously, only speak for myself and what I both see and hear. However, I would venture to say - in response to the ""why no talk about Shawn Porter"" questions that's posed . . . . . . Is because; A) The pure spectacle of Broner's idiocy. B) The gap between Broner's effort (not achievement, success, or lack thereof) within the actual Porter V Broner fight, and that effort put into what he said/did before the fight. C) The obvious reliance Broner had on designing a welterweight contest to be both, at light welterweight and also at a weight that was clearly intended to present him with a competitive advantage. Is, sadly, of a magnitude that - at this moment in time - outweighs not just how professional and classy Shawn and Kenny were - but also the excellent performance Shawn put in considering the weight drop and other factors. As and ye shall receive as they say. :) Moving on . . I do agree with you; Broner needs to (work hard all the time {and not just that jawbone} so he can) stay at light welterweight. Should he remain in the welterweight division and fight the other top guys I mentioned to you here . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?21638-Shawn-Porter-Outworks-Adrien-Broner-for-Unanimous-Decision-Win&p=84504&viewfull=1#post84504 Without catch-weights and other tricks; there is no doubt, his azz is grass and the opponent is a big red 4-stroke lawnmower - Broner will got KTFO. :)


-stormcentre :

Broner is only 25, and I think he has a lot of career left.... He needs to stay at 140 because he hasn't fared well at welterweight, but Broner even in a loss is still a draw and Haymon will keep him on TV, expect to see Broner back in September and December...
Again, why no talk about Shawn Porter???
I can, obviously, only speak for myself and what I both see and hear. However, I would venture to say - in response to the ""why no talk about Shawn Porter"" questions that's posed . . . . . . Is because; A) The pure spectacle of Broner's idiocy. B) The gap between Broner's effort (not achievement, success, or lack thereof) within the actual Porter V Broner fight, and that effort put into what he said/did before the fight. C) The obvious reliance Broner had on designing a welterweight contest to be both, at light welterweight and also at a weight that was clearly intended to present him with a competitive advantage. Is, sadly, of a magnitude that - at this moment in time - outweighs not just how professional and classy Shawn and Kenny were - but also the excellent performance Shawn put in considering the weight drop and other factors. Ask and ye shall receive as they say. :) Moving on . . I do agree with you; Broner needs to (work hard all the time {and not just that jawbone} so he can) stay at light welterweight. Should he remain in the welterweight division and fight the other top guys I mentioned to you here . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?21638-Shawn-Porter-Outworks-Adrien-Broner-for-Unanimous-Decision-Win&p=84504&viewfull=1#post84504 Without catch-weights and other tricks; there is no doubt, his azz is grass and the opponent is a big red 4-stroke lawnmower - Broner will got KTFO. :)


-deepwater2 :

I can, obviously, only speak for myself and what I both see and hear. However, I would venture to say - in response to the ""why no talk about Shawn Porter"" questions that's posed . . . . . . Is because; A) The pure spectacle of Broner's idiocy. B) The gap between Broner's effort (not achievement, success, or lack thereof) within the actual Porter V Broner fight, and that effort put into what he said/did before the fight. C) The obvious reliance Broner had on designing a welterweight contest to be both, at light welterweight and also at a weight that was clearly intended to present him with a competitive advantage. Is, sadly, of a magnitude that - at this moment in time - outweighs not just how professional and classy Shawn and Kenny were - but also the excellent performance Shawn put in considering the weight drop and other factors. Ask and ye shall receive as they say. :) Moving on . . I do agree with you; Broner needs to (work hard all the time {and not just that jawbone} so he can) stay at light welterweight. Should he remain in the welterweight division and fight the other top guys I mentioned to you here . . .
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?21638-Shawn-Porter-Outworks-Adrien-Broner-for-Unanimous-Decision-Win&p=84504&viewfull=1#post84504 Without catch-weights and other tricks; there is no doubt, his azz is grass and the opponent is a big red 4-stroke lawnmower - Broner will got KTFO. :)
A post like this is right on the money. Let him fight the machine or Postol and see if he belongs.


-SouthPawFlo :

The "Problem" for Broner is even if he can get down to 140, it's still some Bears in that division as well that'll eat him alive if he keeps having nights if throwing 25 punches a round, hopefully he gets serious about the sport or he'll turn Into Jeff Lacy Real quickly...


-stormcentre :

Yes, but (at 140) then at least he can then play his weight, jawing, and other silly games and be the "big" guy (after the weigh in) on fight night. No one said it was an easy sport; he knows that. This is boxing. Sometimes you will find yourself tired in round 9 with a guy that can - naturally sweat down from the above weight without too much loss of strength - whom has also just got that second wind in him and knows how to set you up. I see no (real) future for Broner at welterweight. Broner - last weekend - was lucky it was a PBC show and that Weeks took an eternity to even do something about Adrien's absolutely poor effort. Seriously, forget what he and his fan-base says - look at what he does (in the ring); that's what counts. Broner just didn't want to exchange and fight with Porter the other night. So instead he did everything he could do to stop Porter from boxing/fighting. If I were the referee and not dependent upon - both an increased workload from and also feeding a family from, a big Haymon/cheque; I would have disqualified Broner the other night - he was that bad. Had that fight been condensed into 3 or 5 rounds and also somehow been converted into the amateur system, but still without headgear, I know very few, Australian, Ukrainian, Kazakhstanian, Russian, English, Scottish, and possibly even German referees that wouldn't stop the fight and - at least tell Broner to actually box - if not stop it all together. That Broner confidently felt he could do all that (little meaningful activity) and get away with it tells you something about him and also the "show"; that is far more complex to detail here. That Broner confidently did all that (little meaningful activity) and get away with it also tells you something about him and also the "show"; that is concerning for the sport. I have had a few people in this forum here, and also some within the sport itself at both management and promotional level tell me PBC is not good for boxing, and thus far I have, perhaps, opted to look at PBC things as positive as I can. But what Broner did last weekend - after what is already a string of "interestingly" contracted and executed PBC fights - is starting to convince me that Haymon and also Broner are not good for the sport unless you're a fighter that doesn't want to fight tough fights and fight them at the weight division they're advertised at and meant to be in. Even then, that's - in the long run - probably not necessarily good for the boxers (reputations) either. In my opinion, if Broner stays at welterweight; 1) He will fight a considerably lesser class of opponent than his ego would have us believe - or possibly those just coming off of losses; or both. 2) He will get KO'd if he - without a catch-weight and/or some other concerning advantage - fights the guys I above-mentioned (link provided). 3) That's the fastest route to turning into "Jeff Lacy" for him. Cheers. :) :)


-stormcentre :

Perhaps Broner V Judah is next. Provided Al Haymon can digest a show with a Kathy Duva promoted fighter. :) :)