Tyson Comeback Rumor In Full Bloom; Tyson WILL NOT Meet Toney

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The rumor mill is a-grind; Mike Tyson is coming back to the ring, to fight.

And he will be fighting Hall of Famer to be James Toney, the former middleweight and light heavyweight ace who has campaigned for the last decade plus as a heavyweight.

Sounded like pure hokum to me, when I saw the issue being discussed in an Elie Seckbach video. The videographer asked boxer Gabe Rosado about the rumor, and queried two other guys in a gym parking lot. Tyson-Toney is 90 percent done, we heard in the Q n A.

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http://terezowens.com/mike-tyson-to-return-to-ring-fight-james-toney-fight-90-done-esnews

REALLY?

I reached out to a close Tyson source, asked about the rumor, expected to be told it was pure hoo-hah.

“Mike is filming a movie,” I was told.

And the rumor of a comeback, of Mike fighting for the first time since he was stopped by Kevin McBride in 2005…nonsense, right?

“Mike is filming a movie,” was the response.

And I followed up. Wait….is the door NOT closed? The source really wasn't attuned to the wildfire nature of the rumor and when apprised, reacted with more fervor. “Yes, the door is shut for a boxing comeback for Mike. That was a ridiculous rumor. His camp is spreading false rumors.”

For the record, Tyson turns 49 June 30. He has a 50-6 record, and was stopped out, by Danny Williams and then McBride, in his final two tangles. Lennox Lewis stopped him in 2002, he got a win over Cliff Etienne, and then finished, er, continued, with the back to back losses. Toney turns 47 in August. He last licensed up and fought in November 2013, losing a decision in England to 23-15 Jason Gavern.

To be clear, there would be immense curiousity in a Tyson comeback. Scorn, doubt…and interest. Money would be made, pay-per-view buys would be achieved. How many, who could say. But he's remained relevant, with documentaries, and a stage show, and a book, in the last few years. His name recognition is high, and with “elderly” boxers like Wladimir Klitschko and Bernard Hopkins still able to be more than a shell of their greatest selves nearing and beyond 40 and 50, the Tyson comeback could be sold to some masses.

Readers, what say you…if he had an itch, and wanted to scratch it,  would you watch?

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-Kid Blast :

Please pass the puke bucket


-Radam G :

Of course we fanatics will watch if he fights. What type of spit bucket scrap will it be? Since that MayPac's "Farce of the Century," every pug and ex pug are trying to come up with a gimmick and an angle to get PAID! Paid LARGELY! It would be one heckuva card if Iron Mike dances with Lights Out Toney and Big (Rev.) George Foreman dances with Larry Holmes and The Real Deal Holyfield dances rematches with the Russian giant Valuev. Now what boxing fanatics -- that we are -- won't watch that card of geezers? Holla!


-amayseng :

I'd watch it, more entertaining than Lara for sure.


-brownsugar :

Sad thing about it is that Toney would probably win and only 10% of the audience will be able to understand the victory speech. This is not a fight I need to see.


-brownsugar :

Sad thing about it is that Toney would probably win and only 10% of the audience will be able to understand the victory speech. This is not a fight I need to see.


-stormcentre :

Sad thing about it is that Toney would probably win
and only 10% of the audience will be able to understand the victory speech. This is not a fight I need to see.
Not true. You could subtitle Toney like they did here when he went off about Rampage Jackson.
->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxAe7N9W9rw&feature=related That said, they probably couldn't subtitle him live to all audiences and also those and ringside though; so you're unconditionally right. Seriously though, (and sadly; for James and Mike) everything you have said there is probably true. I wouldn't mind seeing Toney fight Tyson though. Probably wouldn't be too good for Mike though. :)


-stormcentre :

Sad thing about it is that Toney would probably win
and only 10% of the audience will be able to understand the victory speech. This is not a fight I need to see.
Not true. You could subtitle Toney like they did here when he went off about Rampage Jackson.
->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxAe7N9W9rw&feature=related That said, they probably couldn't subtitle him live to all audiences and also those and ringside though; so you're unconditionally right. Seriously though, (and sadly; for James and Mike) everything you have said there is probably true. I wouldn't mind seeing Toney fight Tyson though. Probably wouldn't be too good for Mike though. :)


-stormcentre :

Looks like that link is broken or removed. Try this . . .
->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uWWSYql4UY :)


-mortcola :

Of course, it is a terrible idea. But also brilliant, in the way an ill-conceived exploitation sideshow can also be brilliant. Funny thing is, I have a feeling that today?s Tyson would train for this more seriously than he did in the whole second half of his career. Not that Tyson would have enough left to deal during a real fight, especially since even an old, punchy Toney still LOVES to fight, and still probably has a good chin, but as much as we revere Toney?s old-school moves, he did look like a fat bobble-head doll for the last several years of his career, and struggled with some C-grade opposition in spite of having enough echoes of that sneaky technique to remind us of who he almost was. An in-shape, old Tyson with some demons quieted down - not the ones that like to push nose-bones into brains, I like those demons - could be an interesting exhibit. Tyson?s need for serious money just might motivate him enough to take this as seriously as an old ex-pug ever could. But I?m not sure a relatively chastened and mature Tyson could ever be at peace with the inner killer - that war within himself, having his violence exploited in a way that once made him feel like a dancing elephant, well, its something that just might not work, even in a sideshow sense. But would I watch it, as evil as it would be? Of course.


-Domenic :

I'm biased in favor of Tyson the way many are biased toward Mayweather or Pacquiao, so there's no balance on the issue with me. I see the world through Tyson at his peak was among the best ever lens. Hell, I can convince myself through merely the power of nostalgia that Tyson could recapture the lineal title at 50, provided Klitschko is out of the picture. Those here that lived through the Tyson age, in those pre-Internet and cellphone days, remember the unbridled electricity of a Tyson fight. Especially when you compare it to the heavyweight landscape of the last decade or so (I'm a fan of the Klitschkos, and hold them in much higher regard than most, but there's no comparison to their eras; Tyson's was singular, one of a kind). As an aside, it's amazing that after Tyson obliterated Spinks, Lennox Lewis won Olympic Gold in Seoul just a couple months later. Man, one sparring session I wish had been recorded was Tyson - Lewis in the Catskills. I'm all in on Tyson - Toney. Like a gruesome motorcycle wreck, you just can't help but look.


-Domenic :

I'm biased in favor of Tyson the way many are biased toward Mayweather or Pacquiao, so there's no balance on the issue with me. I see the world through Tyson at his peak was among the best ever lens. Hell, I can convince myself through merely the power of nostalgia that Tyson could recapture the lineal title at 50, provided Klitschko is out of the picture. Those here that lived through the Tyson age, in those pre-Internet and cellphone days, remember the unbridled electricity of a Tyson fight. Especially when you compare it to the heavyweight landscape of the last decade or so (I'm a fan of the Klitschkos, and hold them in much higher regard than most, but there's no comparison to their eras; Tyson's was singular, one of a kind). As an aside, it's amazing that after Tyson obliterated Spinks, Lennox Lewis won Olympic Gold in Seoul just a couple months later. Man, one sparring session I wish had been recorded was Tyson - Lewis in the Catskills. I'm all in on Tyson - Toney. Like a gruesome motorcycle wreck, you just can't help but look.


-amayseng :

I am with you Domenic and in a day in age where Bhop had a title at 49 it is not far fetched to have older fighters carry some hype and intrigue. I am a huge Toney fan, he had ridiculous skills, but I am concerned for his well being and his mind having permanent damage. This is what I propose. Tyson fight Roy Jones Jr. Mike from what I last saw is a lot lighter weight wise, he has been a vegan for years and is faded enough to where he will not destroy anyone with a single shot. Those explosive actions are long gone. Stick him in there with Jones who himself has to be around 185-190 lbs. Give us a solid undercard and put it on PPV for 30$. Guaranteed more action than Floyd anti fighting Pac


-amayseng :

I am with you Domenic and in a day in age where Bhop had a title at 49 it is not far fetched to have older fighters carry some hype and intrigue. I am a huge Toney fan, he had ridiculous skills, but I am concerned for his well being and his mind having permanent damage. This is what I propose. Tyson fight Roy Jones Jr. Mike from what I last saw is a lot lighter weight wise, he has been a vegan for years and is faded enough to where he will not destroy anyone with a single shot. Those explosive actions are long gone. Stick him in there with Jones who himself has to be around 185-190 lbs. Give us a solid undercard and put it on PPV for 30$. Guaranteed more action than Floyd anti fighting Pac


-Radam G :

The rumor has been squashed. iron Mike is finished with scrapping in dat squared jungle. He is now a promoter and movie actor. Holla!


-Domenic :

I am with you Domenic and in a day in age where Bhop had a title at 49 it is not far fetched to have older fighters carry some hype and intrigue. I am a huge Toney fan, he had ridiculous skills, but I am concerned for his well being and his mind having permanent damage. This is what I propose. Tyson fight Roy Jones Jr. Mike from what I last saw is a lot lighter weight wise, he has been a vegan for years and is faded enough to where he will not destroy anyone with a single shot. Those explosive actions are long gone. Stick him in there with Jones who himself has to be around 185-190 lbs. Give us a solid undercard and put it on PPV for 30$. Guaranteed more action than Floyd anti fighting Pac
No doubt and good call. Evidently Tyson returning has been put to bed though. Probably a good thing, but was a compelling thought for a minute. James Toney really should no longer be licensed. I don't even know if Margaret Goodman is around anymore, but if he were in her jurisdiction, he'd have no shot of fighting. He's in the same boat as Terry Norris and Meldrick Taylor at this point. Here's a recent interview (starts at 1:45).
->http://youtu.be/Gdh2sadyjh0 Thats 30 years of boxing and sparring wars. He's a no-brainer HoF guy. When the definitive book is written on this era, the 90's through 2010, they'll be a chapter devoted to James Toney. It's not good to see him this way.


-brownsugar :

Not true. You could subtitle Toney like they did here when he went off about Rampage Jackson.
->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxAe7N9W9rw&feature=related That said, they probably couldn't subtitle him live to all audiences and also those and ringside though; so you're unconditionally right. Seriously though, (and sadly; for James and Mike) everything you have said there is probably true. I wouldn't mind seeing Toney fight Tyson though. Probably wouldn't be too good for Mike though. :)
Yeah ... I even cringed when I wrote that, probably a lot more than Eddie Murphy did when he made that tasteless crack about "water head" babies. We knew it was wrong on so many levels but no one in the theatre could stop laughing. I think the version of Toney who gave Sam Peters such a hard time, could deal with the post Lennox Lewis, and Kevin McBride version of Mike Tyson. But like Mort said, Toney may be the more damaged of the two. At least Mike was able to deliver those live stage performances which were universally praised. Who knows???? For the over-the-hill crew, timing is everything.


-amayseng :

No doubt and good call. Evidently Tyson returning has been put to bed though. Probably a good thing, but was a compelling thought for a minute. James Toney really should no longer be licensed. I don't even know if Margaret Goodman is around anymore, but if he were in her jurisdiction, he'd have no shot of fighting. He's in the same boat as Terry Norris and Meldrick Taylor at this point. Here's a recent interview (starts at 1:45).
->http://youtu.be/Gdh2sadyjh0 Thats 30 years of boxing and sparring wars. He's a no-brainer HoF guy. When the definitive book is written on this era, the 90's through 2010, they'll be a chapter devoted to James Toney. It's not good to see him this way.
That video of James talking made my stomach drop I am not kidding. Hate to see any former athlete in that condition. Man was James a phenom. Is there anyone out there more comfortable in the pocket rolling and sliding shots? He was more relaxed in that shell Defense than anyone I can remember. He had the fluidity of Pep.


-stormcentre :

Yeah ... I even cringed when I wrote that, probably a lot more than Eddie Murphy did when he made that tasteless crack about "water head" babies. We knew it was wrong on so many levels but no one in the theatre could stop laughing. I think the version of Toney who gave Sam Peters such a hard time, could deal with the post Lennox Lewis, and Kevin McBride version of Mike Tyson. But like Mort said, Toney may be the more damaged of the two. At least Mike was able to deliver those live stage performances which were universally praised. Who knows???? For the over-the-hill crew, timing is everything.
Look, all things considered, guys like Mike probably can always punch. I think if he caught James coming in he might wobble him; a bit. That said, Toney has copped some awfully big shots before - from Peters too - and remained relatively unhurt and undeterred (for boxing). James - whom is always in, at least, 10 round shape; as far as his slow paced (but acceptable, given how long Toney has been at it) version of it is concerned . . . . Would know Mike was only dangerous for the first 4 rounds, at best; as (give/take a few rounds) that was when he was most dangerous even when he was young and in shape. The second link we posted related to James being subtitled is hilarious; even though it shouldn't be. He (and Mike) will always be the big dawg of the boxing scene as far as I am concerned. Not surprised to see the fight evaporated into thin air. Ah, well at least it made it into an article and thread. :) :)


-stormcentre :

On another note I have just been told that Cotto vs. Alvarez is a done deal. Let’s see where that goes.


-stormcentre :

On another note I have just been told that Cotto vs. Alvarez is a done deal. Let?s see where that goes.