20 STRAIGHT Golovkin Gets Another KO, Monroe Is the Victim

In the main event on HBO, Gennady Golovkin took on Willie Monroe Jr, looking to extend his KO streak to 20 straight. Success; Good Boy provided Big Drama Show and sent Monroe to the mat, and the loser told the ref he wanted no more in round six. After 45 seconds, he knew his legs weren’t there and his brain was too buzzed and Monroe told the ref no mas. GGG sent him to the mat twice in the second and we thought we’d get an abbreviated show; but no, Monroe was able to re-calibrate, elected to stand and fight some, and showed good hand speed. But the predator was not to be put off..

Golovkin is 33, and was 159 Friday, and 170, to Monroe (from Rochester, NY), age 28, 160 up to 172 on fight night.

GGG went 133-297 to 87-305 for the loser.

After, GGG told Max Kellerman that he thanked everyone for coming. “My performance special for you guys…very good drama show, this present just for you,” he said. “I showed him who is real champ. I gave him chance, bring big drama show, let’s go…this my big present,” he said. “He is real good fighter, seriously,” he told the assembled, after Monroe came over to pay honor. He said he wanted a big fight next, Cotto, or Canelo, right away. Andre Ward has to become a star first, he said, then he can get some. He told Max also he wanted to give the fans some money’s worth, so he let Monroe get some shots in.

In the first, GGG came out intent on the lefty, stalking, blocking jabs, and he landed a decent right. Monroe was moving, landed some, didn’t look too tight or out of his depth.

In the second, GGG stalked, while Monroe looked to get off and get out. A left hook dropped Monroe. It was after a lazy jab. He was up at 1:38. A right after lefts sent him down again. He said he could continue. A left upper landed by Willie, and another. He made it to the end of the round, somehow. After the round, trainer Tony Morgan told him to stay off the ropes.

In the third, Willie stood his ground. He stayed off the ropes, threw combos, and did well to avoid bombs. GGG actually looked a bit errant and wild once or twice. Monroe found a bit of the rhythm.

In the fourth, Willie stood close, electing not to “run.” He landed some solid tosses, and made GGG miss a bunch. “You got to be a little busier,” Sanchez said, and asked for a right not to come over the top. He asked for little short punches. An upper hurt Willie in the fifth. Then he showed his hand speed, and landed clean tosses. Blood came from Willie’s lip but he was in the fight, and GGG looked a bit tired. “You got to keep touching him,” said Sanchez and he wanted more jabs.

In the sixth, a right left upper after the lazy jab hurt Monroe, then a right upper did more, a left hook high on the head, a flurry, and down Monroe went. He was up at 9.99. Ref Jack Reiss almost reached a ten count. “You just beat it,” the ref said. Monroe said when asked if he wanted to continue that he did not. “You want to continue?” he asked and repeated it. “I’m done,” came the sad reply.

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COMMENTS

-Radam G :

Three g had absolutely too many G's -- G for guns -- big guns. Holla!


-SouthPawFlo :

At 155 I can see Canelo besting GGG, and GGG won't win 3 rounds against Andre Ward... He's definitely skilled offensively but Monroe stayed in the pocket and scored some big shots that would cause problems from a bigger puncher... GGG is definitely a BIG DRAMA SHOW


-amayseng :

At 155 I can see Canelo besting GGG, and GGG won't win 3 rounds against Andre Ward... He's definitely skilled offensively but Monroe stayed in the pocket and scored some big shots that would cause problems from a bigger puncher... GGG is definitely a BIG DRAMA SHOW
Eh no. Canelo is solid but don't get crazy he has the stamina of an 8 round fighter and the foot agility of a man in concrete boots,. Always has. GGG would tko him without doubt.


-The Shadow :

At 155 I can see Canelo besting GGG, and GGG won't win 3 rounds against Andre Ward... He's definitely skilled offensively but Monroe stayed in the pocket and scored some big shots that would cause problems from a bigger puncher... GGG is definitely a BIG DRAMA SHOW
There's a reason they call out every 168-pounder with a name but want no part of Ward. SOG ends him and he knows it. As a fighter, he knows.


-The Shadow :

That said he's the man at 160 (lineal title or not), no doubt about it. And possibly the most "must-see" fighter today.


-Carmine Cas :

GGG once again showed his power, pressure, and killer instinct. But he also showed his flawed defense. If he fights the upper echelon at 168 he will have many issues. SOG beats him easily; too fast, strong, slick, and smart. If Canelo can get GGG to come down in weight, I see Canelo having success depending on how GGG responds to the weight cut. Canelo's combination punching would have GGG's head popping back like a bobble head. But as Amayseng pointed out, his footwork his poor and his stamina are suspect GGG would walk him down. At 160 GGG is king, a fight I would love to see GGG-Lemieux. Something like Hagler-Hearns


-Koko85 :

There's a reason they call out every 168-pounder with a name but want no part of Ward. SOG ends him and he knows it. As a fighter, he knows.
That is bible. Regardless let's see Ward fight at least one fight first no matter who it is.


-Koko85 :

Watched again. GGG controlled every round. Even controlled the round he "lost".


-brownsugar :

I had to watch a recording since "Mad Maxx" was at the top of the agenda, how was it ? ..Glorious. Must see. I knew this would be another one-sided mis-match. Every "b" and "c" fighter in the free world is willing to roll the dice against GGG but the self proclaimed hiers to the throne keep putting GGG on hold, maybe Canelo and Quillin will step up after GGG is eligible for social security. Challengers should see that trying to win against GGG is a difficult task but its not fatal. Step up......somebody...please.


-Radam G :

At 155 I can see Canelo besting GGG, and GGG won't win 3 rounds against Andre Ward... He's definitely skilled offensively but Monroe stayed in the pocket and scored some big shots that would cause problems from a bigger puncher... GGG is definitely a BIG DRAMA SHOW
Aren't we heavy on the p*ss tonight. Better ease up on those frosties. Canelo would get the same as Monroe got. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Monroe's lefty stance (and low right hand) worked beautiful for 3G's attacking style. 3G - save, perhaps, for rounds 3 and 4 (which revealed what may happen if someone can back 3G up and hit him and/or stop him from backing them up) - pretty much did as he pleased with Monroe. Can't see Oscar (despite what he says) wanting to throw Canelo in with Gennady too soon; won't happen. Lara? Dirrell? Ward? A decent middleweight that can get down to light middle and retain strength as 3G does? Or perhaps set up a fight between 3G and PacJuice, and don't do any PED testing before the fight. After all, if it's good enough to call Floyd out for not fighting Gennady; then why not Pacjuice? Donkey, this is your cue to chime in now with; "Hee-Haw logic". Love it !!!!! :) :) :)


-DaveB :

GGG beats Mayweather. Ward beats GGG. Kovalev beats Ward. Hmm. Seems to be a theme here.


-stormcentre :

GGG beats Mayweather. Ward beats GGG. Kovalev beats Ward. Hmm. Seems to be a theme here.
I'd like to see how Ward (and his punch resistance, defence, stamina, and "power") looks in his next match first I think. 3G is in pretty good match practice form at the moment. As for your theme (which I don't necessarily disagree with); well - assuming the theme is that of 3G beating guys down - add to the mix that Gennady used to, at Sanchez' Summit gym, bash Sergey so frequently that he, at times, either didn't show for training or was reluctant to. 3G certainly believes in his skills, "power", and punch resistance. Add to it all he has that excellent fitness topped of with the only natural and "legal EPO" going around; sustained high altitude training.


-Yogo :

GGG beats them all handily barring SOG. It's that simple. Saul's fighting in spurts spells 'big disaster show' v Golovkin. Lemieux would be a quality shootout for 6 rounds or so. Where the hell's Kid Chocolate? American middleweights ain't what they used to be that's for sure. Quack quack.


-Skibbz :

He knew he had Monroe after the 2nd. GGG wasn't flustered by the punches, in fact the only critisicm I can throw at him is that his last 3 fights were against arguably non punchers. One was durable, one was a southpaw and the other was Geale. He made the latter two quit, and beat the former like his heavy bag, drumming his body and head until there was nothing left. Now in those fights he has been getting caught, but I think a lot of people (at least amongst more casual fans) argue he gets hit too often. This is boxing, as they say you can't swim without getting wet. He trains his durability and physicality to a point where he is able to take more and recuperate fast - he is in peak fighting condition. Each fighter comes with is own tools, strengths and weaknesses and critically his own [U]
style[/U]. Golovkin's is that he - as has been mentioned in this thread - knows he has the power, fitness and skill to get to you, and so throws caution to the wind against opponents whom he doesn't quite fear and goes for the kill looking to give fans of the sport a blood spectacle. But fans whilst willing to cheer the guts on show and the blood being punched out of an opponent, they will ague "He gets beat by a boxer two or three divisions up!" "Drain him and bring him 3 divisions down and lets see how easy he gets beat! "He eats too many shots!!!!". Goes to prove what we all know is that boxing fans are the most hyper critical in the world - they envision themselves in the ring, most of whom have probably never spent 1 month in a boxing gym - and hence will pick on every and anything they can instead of cheering and supporting someone who goes out to give them exactly what they ask to pay to see, a BIG DRAMA SHOW. Golovkin hasn't even won the true middleweight championship and names above and below his division are being throw at him. Let him sort the business at hand first and then lets look away. Let's not forget that
[U]Ward[/U] is fighting his next fight at 172lb against someone who stylistically is a walk in the park (and just to put it out there, having been out the ring for donkeys he doesn't get stripped of his belt...) - so GGG should jump up almost two divisions to face him? Okay.. Since Ward is closer to 175 commentators should be throwing the Light Heavies at him, not 160's who have yet to crown themselves the true lineal champion of their division. Anyway, Golovkin vs the winner of Cotto/Canelo is the fight series I'm most looking forward to. I hope El Rey punishes and makes Cotto quit, and then we have another brilliant fight on our hands. I don't see them rushing Canelo into that fight - why should they? He's still young and inexperienced although now he is looking calmer on the big stage then he was previously. I do agree that he has had issues with his engine in the past but I would put that down to fight jitters in one of the most pressured roles in boxing - the man who carries the Bandera de M?xico. Give it two years and that will be a great shot for Canelo. There's no need to rush this fight because it will always sell - GGG Will still be knocking guys out through '15 and '16 and Canelo will get his experience and then when the fight is ready it will be made. I agree Golovkin needs to face someone who at least provides him with a little fear but hearing Golovkin's name being thrown in with the likes of Malignaggi, Kovalev, Stevenson and even a 172lb Ward? Too much booze! *hick* :rolleyes:


-Skibbz :

GGG beats them all handily barring SOG. It's that simple. Saul's fighting in spurts spells 'big disaster show' v Golovkin. Lemieux would be a quality shootout for 6 rounds or so. Where the hell's Kid Chocolate? American middleweights ain't what they used to be that's for sure. Quack quack.
I would like to see Quillin fight GGG. He certainly doesn't have the experience to do it with much hope, but his handler's giving him the nod in his last closely fought contest will have boosted his confidence a fair bit in my opinion and if anyone is going to be champing at the bit to fight him i'd say it's him. Okay maybe not champing at the bit but open to a fight being made for sure. Golovkin on PBC? Free Drama Show!!!


-Yogo :

Agreed 100% except surely Paulie's name wasn't thrown in there??


-Pazuzu :

After all, if it's good enough to call Floyd out for not fighting Gennady; then why not Pacjuice?
Because unlike Mayweather, Manny Pacquaio has not held a 154lb title, a weight at which Golovkin has said he would be willing to fight, nor does Pacquaio go around making the preposterous claim that he is the best fighter of all time. Floyd just needs to put his money where his mouth is. That's all.


-stormcentre :

Because unlike Mayweather, Manny Pacquaio has not held a 154lb title, a weight at which Golovkin has said he would be willing to fight, nor does Pacquaio go around making the preposterous claim that he is the best fighter of all time. Floyd just needs to put his money where his mouth is. That's all.
Yes fair enough. Yep, Floyd sure does have a big mouth. Not before the MayPac fight though - and no-where near like Pacquaio and Roach did. Additionally, Floyd also doesn't go around building his signature wins and career via a heady mix of not only (trainer/promoter effectively admitted) PEDs and catch-weights; but also this;
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?21096-The-Future-Mystery-of-Mr-Mayweather&p=81927&viewfull=1#post81927 All, of which no-one yet has stepped forward to address. That's all.


-stormcentre :

Because unlike Mayweather, Manny Pacquaio has not held a 154lb title, a weight at which Golovkin has said he would be willing to fight, nor does Pacquaio go around making the preposterous claim that he is the best fighter of all time. Floyd just needs to put his money where his mouth is. That's all.
Yes fair enough. Yep, Floyd sure does have a big mouth. Not before the MayPac fight though - and no-where near like Pacquaio and Roach did. Additionally, Floyd also doesn't go around building his signature wins and career via a heady mix of not only (trainer/promoter effectively admitted) PEDs and catch-weights; but also this;
->http://www.thesweetscience.com/forums/showthread.php?21096-The-Future-Mystery-of-Mr-Mayweather&p=81927&viewfull=1#post81927 All, of which no-one yet has stepped forward to address. That said, aside from anything Floyd, Pacquaio, you, or even I "say": in the interests of keeping things fair we shouldn't necessarily let Pacquaio off of the light middleweight challenges that are set for Floyd, based on what Pacquaio fraudulently says, suspiciously consumes, and misleadingly signs (or Floyd for that matter). Particularly given that Pacquaio has shown (catchweight interest in light middleweight) Margarito (2010) and fought Floyd - whom himself has been freshly deemed to be the next 3G opponent by all whom will probably be the first to complain if that fight is boring, even if Floyd took it and didn't wan't. That's all.


-amayseng :

He knew he had Monroe after the 2nd. GGG wasn't flustered by the punches, in fact the only critisicm I can throw at him is that his last 3 fights were against arguably non punchers. One was durable, one was a southpaw and the other was Geale. He made the latter two quit, and beat the former like his heavy bag, drumming his body and head until there was nothing left. Now in those fights he has been getting caught, but I think a lot of people (at least amongst more casual fans) argue he gets hit too often. This is boxing, as they say you can't swim without getting wet. He trains his durability and physicality to a point where he is able to take more and recuperate fast - he is in peak fighting condition. Each fighter comes with is own tools, strengths and weaknesses and critically his own [U]
style[/U]. Golovkin's is that he - as has been mentioned in this thread - knows he has the power, fitness and skill to get to you, and so throws caution to the wind against opponents whom he doesn't quite fear and goes for the kill looking to give fans of the sport a blood spectacle. But fans whilst willing to cheer the guts on show and the blood being punched out of an opponent, they will ague "He gets beat by a boxer two or three divisions up!" "Drain him and bring him 3 divisions down and lets see how easy he gets beat! "He eats too many shots!!!!". Goes to prove what we all know is that boxing fans are the most hyper critical in the world - they envision themselves in the ring, most of whom have probably never spent 1 month in a boxing gym - and hence will pick on every and anything they can instead of cheering and supporting someone who goes out to give them exactly what they ask to pay to see, a BIG DRAMA SHOW. Golovkin hasn't even won the true middleweight championship and names above and below his division are being throw at him. Let him sort the business at hand first and then lets look away. Let's not forget that
[U]Ward[/U] is fighting his next fight at 172lb against someone who stylistically is a walk in the park (and just to put it out there, having been out the ring for donkeys he doesn't get stripped of his belt...) - so GGG should jump up almost two divisions to face him? Okay.. Since Ward is closer to 175 commentators should be throwing the Light Heavies at him, not 160's who have yet to crown themselves the true lineal champion of their division. Anyway, Golovkin vs the winner of Cotto/Canelo is the fight series I'm most looking forward to. I hope El Rey punishes and makes Cotto quit, and then we have another brilliant fight on our hands. I don't see them rushing Canelo into that fight - why should they? He's still young and inexperienced although now he is looking calmer on the big stage then he was previously. I do agree that he has had issues with his engine in the past but I would put that down to fight jitters in one of the most pressured roles in boxing - the man who carries the Bandera de M?xico. Give it two years and that will be a great shot for Canelo. There's no need to rush this fight because it will always sell - GGG Will still be knocking guys out through '15 and '16 and Canelo will get his experience and then when the fight is ready it will be made. I agree Golovkin needs to face someone who at least provides him with a little fear but hearing Golovkin's name being thrown in with the likes of Malignaggi, Kovalev, Stevenson and even a 172lb Ward? Too much booze! *hick* :rolleyes:
Well said. Though GGG is not getting caught he purposely allows his opponent to land some shots for "drama" and to kill their spirit and confidence as he walks through them with ease.


-deepwater2 :

The PBC fighters can't mention Triple G. It says so in their contract. G's best shot is to fight Lee,the winner of Billy Joe Eubank Jr 2, or the winner of NDam Lemiuex. We shouldn't mention Floyd with Triple anymore. Floyd isn't TBE so why bother. The era of safety first Floyd is coming to an end. Rejoice!


-stormcentre :

The PBC fighters can't mention Triple G. It says so in their contract. G's best shot is to fight Lee,the winner of Billy Joe Eubank Jr 2, or the winner of NDam Lemiuex. We shouldn't mention Floyd with Triple anymore. Floyd isn't TBE so why bother.
The era of safety first Floyd is coming to an end. Rejoice!
Provided he retires and stays retired, as he claims he will. However, if, in the event he decides to stick around, and (perhaps even collect another PacJuice scalp, but) in general make easy work of the welterweight division; the "safety first" era of Floyd's opponents "not wanting to freely come forward (as they may otherwise) and get hit" might not becoming to an end. Still then, if that's the case, many will not have too look too far to express their oversights in relation to both, what fights Floyd has had where he really has remained in front of his opponent and challenged/fought, and also what appears to be a genuine love to pull someone down because they're not stupid enough to fight their opponent's fights, lose, and therefore make some people (usually those that root for whom Floyd beats) happy. So, yes, I agree with you. Keep up the good posts D2. Love it !!! :) :) :)


-DaveB :

When we, the fans, bring up some of these fights I think we all are pontificating and get a lot of enjoyable just wondering about these fantasy match ups. I know some of these fights will never get made, in fact most of them never will but it is fun as fans to think of what if. Fighters will always call out fighters where there is money to be made and where they think they can hang a w on to their record. The easier for them to do the better. We as fans will make the worst matches for them we can think of and that would get their a$$e$ kicked very often and get them hurt very badly. If they were to pass our tests them we would give them much praise but that praise would come at a very high cost. Like Radam G says it is prize fighting not pride fighting. But that is not going to stop us from doing this and we will continue to have fun doing it. Now of course a fighter has to take on some challenges to get respect and I think that is fair. I still think Kovalev beats GGG. That was then now is now. But do I think it is fair to expect him to go to 175 to fight him? Absolutely not. If he was silly enough to try I would be there front and center to watch and say what a man.


-SouthPawFlo :

Maybe I'm seeing a different fighter, by no fault of his own GGG hasn't fought anyone with enough fire power to keep him off, but GGG is really really really Slow, Tim Bradley commented on it before, and he LOADS UP a lot on big shots... He's a menace offensively but he takes too many clean punches at times....Monroe snapped his head back with some shots AFTER he was put down twice and nobody will ever mistake Monroe as a "Puncher." I'll take Canelo over him at 155 but not at 160 just yet, I'll take Floyd over him at a catch weight of like 152 (which shouldn't even be mentioned because Floyd can't even get that big) but other than that I don't see anyone at 160 beating him... It says a lot about the status of the middleweight division right now.... When James Toney, RJJR and Bernard were in the division GGG wouldn't even have a belt!!!


-SouthPawFlo :

Even tho this isn't his fault: Who did GGG beat to win his middleweight belt?? Who did GGG beat who would be considered as a Great Fighter or Future Hall of Famer?? Of his 33 wins, which fighter would you say was his best opponent? It's not his fault that 160 doesn't have big names, but he's made his career as a Killer of B & C level fighters... FYI: Mentioning Floyd with a guy who hasn't fought at 154 in years and has never been on a PPV card is a waste of time, he's only interested in BIG FIGHTS and GGG could walk thru time square holding his belts or walk down the strip in Vegas and no one would recognize him...


-Radam G :

Even tho this isn't his fault: Who did GGG beat to win his middleweight belt?? Who did GGG beat who would be considered as a Great Fighter or Future Hall of Famer?? Of his 33 wins, which fighter would you say was his best opponent? It's not his fault that 160 doesn't have big names, but he's made his career as a Killer of B & C level fighters... FYI: Mentioning Floyd with a guy who hasn't fought at 154 in years and has never been on a PPV card is a waste of time, he's only interested in BIG FIGHTS and GGG could walk thru time square holding his belts or walk down the strip in Vegas and no one would recognize him...
Wow! Three g is a real G. He will have the old Money May for tea. I don't know what you see. But 3g at middleweight is the best that there be. Holla!


-SouthPawFlo :

Radam G, we Actually Agree, at 1-Sixty, nobody is beating GGG, but if he goes up in weight to see the SOG, or drops down for the TBE, he'll be outboxed and schooled very Badly!!!


-Radam G :

Radam G, we Actually Agree, at 1-Sixty, nobody is beating GGG, but if he goes up in weight to see the SOG, or drops down for the TBE, he'll be outboxed and schooled very Badly!!!
He and his trainer are smart. They are staying at 160lbs and are just talking, but never walking. There is no reason or season to go down to dance with Money May or up to get crush by SOG. Three g is the boss at 160lbs. Holla!


-amayseng :

He and his trainer are smart. They are staying at 160lbs and are just talking, but never walking. There is no reason or season to go down to dance with Money May or up to get crush by SOG. Three g is the boss at 160lbs. Holla!
Yep and there is no shame in it. Ggg goes to 168 and he has hell with Ward just like Ward would have hell going up in weight against Kovalev just like Floyd would have hell going up against GGG. Ggg is the bad *** at 160 no one beats him. People need to accept it


-Koko85 :

He knew he had Monroe after the 2nd. GGG wasn't flustered by the punches, in fact the only critisicm I can throw at him is that his last 3 fights were against arguably non punchers. One was durable, one was a southpaw and the other was Geale. He made the latter two quit, and beat the former like his heavy bag, drumming his body and head until there was nothing left. Now in those fights he has been getting caught, but I think a lot of people (at least amongst more casual fans) argue he gets hit too often. This is boxing, as they say you can't swim without getting wet. He trains his durability and physicality to a point where he is able to take more and recuperate fast - he is in peak fighting condition. Each fighter comes with is own tools, strengths and weaknesses and critically his own [U]
style[/U]. Golovkin's is that he - as has been mentioned in this thread - knows he has the power, fitness and skill to get to you, and so throws caution to the wind against opponents whom he doesn't quite fear and goes for the kill looking to give fans of the sport a blood spectacle. But fans whilst willing to cheer the guts on show and the blood being punched out of an opponent, they will ague "He gets beat by a boxer two or three divisions up!" "Drain him and bring him 3 divisions down and lets see how easy he gets beat! "He eats too many shots!!!!". Goes to prove what we all know is that boxing fans are the most hyper critical in the world - they envision themselves in the ring, most of whom have probably never spent 1 month in a boxing gym - and hence will pick on every and anything they can instead of cheering and supporting someone who goes out to give them exactly what they ask to pay to see, a BIG DRAMA SHOW. Golovkin hasn't even won the true middleweight championship and names above and below his division are being throw at him. Let him sort the business at hand first and then lets look away. Let's not forget that
[U]Ward[/U] is fighting his next fight at 172lb against someone who stylistically is a walk in the park (and just to put it out there, having been out the ring for donkeys he doesn't get stripped of his belt...) - so GGG should jump up almost two divisions to face him? Okay.. Since Ward is closer to 175 commentators should be throwing the Light Heavies at him, not 160's who have yet to crown themselves the true lineal champion of their division. Anyway, Golovkin vs the winner of Cotto/Canelo is the fight series I'm most looking forward to. I hope El Rey punishes and makes Cotto quit, and then we have another brilliant fight on our hands. I don't see them rushing Canelo into that fight - why should they? He's still young and inexperienced although now he is looking calmer on the big stage then he was previously. I do agree that he has had issues with his engine in the past but I would put that down to fight jitters in one of the most pressured roles in boxing - the man who carries the Bandera de M?xico. Give it two years and that will be a great shot for Canelo. There's no need to rush this fight because it will always sell - GGG Will still be knocking guys out through '15 and '16 and Canelo will get his experience and then when the fight is ready it will be made. I agree Golovkin needs to face someone who at least provides him with a little fear but hearing Golovkin's name being thrown in with the likes of Malignaggi, Kovalev, Stevenson and even a 172lb Ward? Too much booze! *hick* :rolleyes:
Everything you said - spot on. Bravo.


-SuperLight :

I for one would like to see an undisputed middleweight champ. Last was Jermain Taylor, right? Hopkins before him and then, if I'm not mistaken, Marvelous Marvin a long time before him. What will it take for GGG to get a crack? The winner of D. Lemieux/Hassan N'Dam, and then? I don't think there's any shame in sticking around at middleweight, despite many people thinking the competition is less than stellar. I'd like to see the guy prove he can take all comers in that division before moving up or down to meet anyone. And despite looking slow at times and in some respects, I think Golovkin knows just how much punishment he's willing to take in order to land his accurate and solid shots.


-deepwater2 :

I for one would like to see an undisputed middleweight champ. Last was Jermain Taylor, right? Hopkins before him and then, if I'm not mistaken, Marvelous Marvin a long time before him. What will it take for GGG to get a crack? The winner of D. Lemieux/Hassan N'Dam, and then? I don't think there's any shame in sticking around at middleweight, despite many people thinking the competition is less than stellar. I'd like to see the guy prove he can take all comers in that division before moving up or down to meet anyone. And despite looking slow at times and in some respects, I think Golovkin knows just how much punishment he's willing to take in order to land his accurate and solid shots.
GGG has many options at 160. The winner of the fight you just mentioned,Lee,Billy Joe Saunders,Eubank Jr,Cotto, Jacobs and even Quillin at Barclays if tsAH decides to cash in on his poor investment. GGG needs a chance to unify before he moves up. Ward basically cleaned out his division,maybe he should move up.


-deepwater2 :

Even tho this isn't his fault: Who did GGG beat to win his middleweight belt?? Who did GGG beat who would be considered as a Great Fighter or Future Hall of Famer?? Of his 33 wins, which fighter would you say was his best opponent? It's not his fault that 160 doesn't have big names, but he's made his career as a Killer of B & C level fighters... FYI: Mentioning Floyd with a guy who hasn't fought at 154 in years and has never been on a PPV card is a waste of time, he's only interested in BIG FIGHTS and GGG could walk thru time square holding his belts or walk down the strip in Vegas and no one would recognize him...
Triple is selling out arenas on both coasts man. The Mexicans accepted him and are selling GGG shirts in the parking lots. In NYC the Brooklyn guys are on his bandwagon now. Triple has more fans in Brooklyn the Quillin does. His opponents have been solid and he has destroyed boxers that have never been destroyed before. The way he beats the boxers is what fans like. Floyd has great skills but he doesn't try and set up knockouts or get in exchanges. It is what it is and when Floyd is gone boxing might even be more popular.


-Skibbz :

At the end of the day, it's only a matter of time before GGG is competing for the WBC title. After he has control of that, let the doubters come in if they still remain. I don't think he's an invincible beast of a fighter, in fact the right opponent who has good strong and fast hands, with great conditioning and the right amount of experience will make things more interesting than we've seen so far, but I think all else will fail. He's a boxer puncher on literal steroids. I don't think you'll out punch him, it will be hard to out box him (almost 400 am fights + consistent training) so the remedy in my eyes is someone who is willing and able to fight Golovkin at his own game. Tall order in my book.. But not impossible!


-Hammer Hands :

To beat GGG you have to be able to not get punished. I don't care if you can hit him, you have to make sure he can't knock you brain dead or shut down your body. Nobody has shown a glimmer of hope that they can shut down GGG's offense, so when you talk about guys beating GGG, the first question is, " how will they avoid GGG's punishment?" Andre Ward is a master of making stiff, conventional fighters miss and get hit, but GGG doesn't fight conventional, he is a new breed, and I am confident that Ward values his brain too much to take the kind of damage GGG dishes up. What Golovkin has offensively is unique, you can't train against people that bring his style, and that's why guys that fight him are just blown away by what he is.


-Radam G :

SOG Ward is big, stealth and rough. He would crowd and turn and burn on 3g. Three g would have a hard time locating the target and getting off. SOG would force him backward, thus short-circuiting 3G's game. Holla!


-amayseng :

SOG Ward is big, stealth and rough. He would crowd and turn and burn on 3g. Three g would have a hard time locating the target and getting off. SOG would force him backward, thus short-circuiting 3G's game. Holla!
I can see that as I can also see GGG being more active and out pointing Ward. The fight is an absolute toss up to me.