ROACH: “We Aim To Beat Floyd Every Round”

Watching tape. Re-watching tape. Pausing, rewinding, dissecting.

Freddie Roach has been doing a whole heckuva lot of that in recent weeks, as he tries to nail down a game plan for his guy Manny Pacquiao which will let the Congressman have the very best chance possible to render Floyd Mayweather Mr. 47-1.

Any particular footage Freddie is poring over, when he’s away from his Wild Card Gym, and being his typical obsessive self about the sport?

“I went back to the Oscar fight, Floyd against Oscar,” Coach Roach told me. That occurred in 2007 (May 2007, Floyd took a SD12), and he has an especially solid reference basis for that clash, being that he trained Oscar for the tussle. “I know how Oscar won the first six rounds and how and why he lost the last six,” Freddie said. “He gave the fight away. We won’t give the fight away, I promise you!”

What about a fair shake from judges? Floyd after all is an industry in Vegas. Would it not make sense if there were even a subconscious bias toward rewarding the man who helps fuel a city, with his twice a year fight extravaganzas? No, Roach said, he’s not worried about that, about an instance of what I call #corruptitude.

“I’m not thinking we need a knockout. We aim to beat him every round. If we kayo him, it’s a bonus. Floyd is not perfect. That shoulder roll, he won’t probably use it, it doesn’t really work versus southpaws. He will hit the ropes, he can’t not do it.”

And once there, we can assume, it will be Manny’s intention to make him pay for that choice, one which Roach believes is made for him, because he thinks the spring in the legs has diminished. “In his last couple of fights, I don’t think he’s that fast anymore. I think we can out-hustle him and out-score him. Yes,” he said, picturing Mayweather caught on the ropes, getting basted, unable to slide away, out of harm’s way, “I think Pacquiao is gonna destroy him.”

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-Pazuzu :

[br] title="ROACH: We Aim To Beat Floyd Every Round"[/br] Watching tape. Re-watching tape. Pausing, rewinding, dissecting. Freddie Roach has been doing a whole heckuva lot of that in recent weeks, as he tries to nail down a game plan for his guy Manny Pacquiao which will let the Congressman have the very best chance possible to render Floyd Mayweather Mr. 47-1. Any particular footage Freddie is poring over, when he's away from his Wild Card Gym, and being his typical obsessive self about the sport? "I went back to the Oscar fight, Floyd against Oscar," Coach Roach told me. That occurred in 2007 (May 2007, Floyd took a SD12), and he has an especially solid reference basis for that clash, being that he trained Oscar for the tussle. "I know how Oscar won the first six rounds and how and why he lost the last six," Freddie said. "He gave the fight away. We won't give the fight away, I promise you!" What about a fair shake from judges? Floyd after all is an industry in Vegas. Would it not make sense if there were even a subconscious bias toward rewarding the man who helps fuel a city, with his twice a year fight extravaganzas? No, Roach said, he's not worried about that, about an instance of what I call #corruptitude. "I'm not thinking we need a knockout. We aim to beat him every round. If we kayo him, it's a bonus. Floyd is not perfect. That shoulder roll, he won't probably use it, it doesn't really work versus southpaws. He will hit the ropes, he can't not do it." And once there, we can assume, it will be Manny's intention to make him pay for that choice, one which Roach believes is made for him, because he thinks the spring in the legs has diminished. "In his last couple of fights, I don't think he's that fast anymore. I think we can out-hustle him and out-score him. "Yes," he said, picturing Mayweather caught on the ropes, getting basted, unable to slide away, out of harm's way, "I think Pacquiao is gonna destroy him."
I hope these cats pull a Hagler-Hearns and let it rip from the opening bell.


-#1 PacFan :

When the Hall of Fame coach talks we all listen. I think the Oscar fight is totally different because Oscar IMO used his physical advantage over Floyd which then gave him a chance to tee off while Floyd was on the ropes. Oscar in the later rounds started to fight him in the center of the ring so Floyd began to pot shot him. I may have to look at that fight again but I believe that was due to fatigue. Manny must keep Floyd on his toes backing up cutting off the ring and lead him to the ropes. Now this is possible to do even while Manny is not the bigger man. The thing I learned about Manny is that his wicked straight left hand moves opponents even if it doesn't connect. The fact that his punch is so fast and he takes such a big step and launching himself it forces you to go back. So I expect the straight left to be the key punch.


-Froggy :

I still think the golden boy beat Mayweather in a close fight ! But like #1PacFan was saying about Manny not being the bigger man, just look at the Margauarito fight, that was a guy Floyd would not fight ! Oscar might have took his foot off the gas the last half of his fight with Mayweather, when have you ever seen Pacquiao take his foot off the gas except maybe the last round too show compassion to a beaten fighter ?


-Radam G :

Don't get caugth up in size. It won't matter. The ?o?k$ure Money May is shot in the legs and still has a habit of shoulder roll, two-step stroll and head-drop fold to his right side. He will constantly blind himself from left handed shots. Especially hooks and uppercuts. And with Da Manny's foot speed, Lil Floyd will lose where Da Manny is all night in dat squared jungle. So expect for "Furse of 38"-year-old Lil Floyd to eat a lot of jabs, and hooks off the jabs. The Mayvinci Code will get broke, along with Lil Floyd's jaw and eye sockets. In the mean time holla at this
->https://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=7p0WhxVKlsA. Money May is stupid. He actually believe what he thotts, ratchet and hood rats tell him about Da Manny being frighten of him. Lil Floyd doesn't know syet about Pinoy Asians. Holla!


-SouthPawFlo :

I believe Freddie roach is an awesome trainer, but one question that has yet to be answered is what improvements is manny gonna make on the defensive end... Manny has to come in to score point to win this fight and you can't throw 80-100 punches a round and not expect to be countered, so what defensive adjustments are gonna be made to off-set the counter-punching ability of Mayweather... Khan has said that Roach doesn't preach much Defense in camps, and if Manny is constantly caught coming in or it's gonna be a long night... I think angles, controlling distance and body punching should be the keys for Pac Man, people have tried and tried to just attack Mayweather with a Barrage of punches and just corner and beat on him, and that hasn't worked...


-Radam G :

I believe Freddie roach is an awesome trainer, but one question that has yet to be answered is what improvements is manny gonna make on the defensive end... Manny has to come in to score point to win this fight and you can't throw 80-100 punches a round and not expect to be countered, so what defensive adjustments are gonna be made to off-set the counter-punching ability of Mayweather... Khan has said that Roach doesn't preach much Defense in camps, and if Manny is constantly caught coming in or it's gonna be a long night... I think angles, controlling distance and body punching should be the keys for Pac Man, people have tried and tried to just attack Mayweather with a Barrage of punches and just corner and beat on him, and that hasn't worked...
It is a myth that Da Manny is more counter-punch vulnerable than any other pug in the history of the game. Matter of fact, Da Manny's defense is only about three percent lower than Money May. I put up an accurate video of that almost two weeks ago. Sorry that you missed it. Maybe one of these haters up in this Universe will develop class and cojones and put it up again. I'm pi$$ing them off. So I don't want to look as if I'm rubbing it in. Or even thinking about them. Ev'ybodee and dey momma should have the right to express themselves in this Universe without rachet sarcasm coming at them. Holla!


-amayseng :

I believe Freddie roach is an awesome trainer, but one question that has yet to be answered is what improvements is manny gonna make on the defensive end... Manny has to come in to score point to win this fight and you can't throw 80-100 punches a round and not expect to be countered, so what defensive adjustments are gonna be made to off-set the counter-punching ability of Mayweather... Khan has said that Roach doesn't preach much Defense in camps, and if Manny is constantly caught coming in or it's gonna be a long night... I think angles, controlling distance and body punching should be the keys for Pac Man, people have tried and tried to just attack Mayweather with a Barrage of punches and just corner and beat on him, and that hasn't worked...
Agreed. You can't bully or rush Floyd. You have to take advantage of scoring to his left when he shoulder rolls and folds right scoring points when he is out of poaition to counter. Floyd's weakness is that he is not very active and his legs aren't there like he used them ala Bolomir.


-#1 PacFan :

I have been reviewing most of Floyd's fights and there is one thing that stands out in those films. Floyd eats a lot of jabs all this due to him being too much in that shoulder roll posture.


-#1 PacFan :

Agreed. You can't bully or rush Floyd. You have to take advantage of scoring to his left when he shoulder rolls and folds right scoring points when he is out of poaition to counter. Floyd's weakness is that he is not very active and his legs aren't there like he used them ala Bolomir.
Aggressive fighting is the key for this fight. Floyd doesn't fight well in exchanges so he relies scoring when you give him the middle of the ring. Manny can't think of winning this fight by decision. Manny must come in thinking he needs to KO Floyd. I'm sorry Floyd fans but some of Floyd's wins were given to him. Not by the referee not by the judges but by his opponents. Dela Hoya was having success with Floyd until he let Floyd punch his way in the middle of the ring. Will Manny let that happen? I bet not but if Floyd tries then he's more that welcome to do so as Manny is very good at exchanges. Maidana could have won that first fight if he would have keep sustaining the pressure on Floyd. Fact is Floyd can't fight going back so he relies on his shell until you give him a turn. Manny will not let him have that center of the ring and Roach will keep advising Manny to take this guy out. So many different scenarios you can think of but that's the way I see it.


-SouthPawFlo :

If you look back to the Canelo Fight, you'll see Floyd can win with Movement, as well as standing in the pocket.. If he avoids the ropes it would interesting to see how Manny Boxes in the middle of the Ring, I wanna see Pacman make a serious commitment to going to going to the body and not just head hunting... Floyd won't use much of his shoulder roll so most of the time he'll be in the high guard and the body will be open...


-#1 PacFan :

If you look back to the Canelo Fight, you'll see Floyd can win with Movement, as well as standing in the pocket.. If he avoids the ropes it would interesting to see how Manny Boxes in the middle of the Ring, I wanna see Pacman make a serious commitment to going to going to the body and not just head hunting... Floyd won't use much of his shoulder roll so most of the time he'll be in the high guard and the body will be open...
Canelo is a bum I'm sorry to say. He popped Floyd with jabs but nothing was right behind it. Floyd took the fight to Canelo and he got shell shocked. Most of Floyd past opponents would have loved to faced that Floyd. If Floyd does try to impose hid physical advantages over PAC then Manny has an easy night. Floyd is so focused in training camp right now it is difficult to know what kind of Floyd we will see on May 2. Will we see the same old Floyd with defense first with better conditioning or will we see a new one who is really looking for take Manny out? We will see and the.wait is unbearable.


-michaelabii :

Great points by all including Freddie Roach. Manny can beat Floyd but IMO he will not. After analyzing and rethinking several outcomes I believe the fight will be won by the fighter who can make the necessary in ring adjustments as the fight goes on and to date non one does this better than Floyd Mayweather. Sure, Manny will pound him on the ropes , throw five six punch combos and be fllet footed. However as sure as day and night Floyd will start to make adjustments. He may stab the jab to the body or decide at some point to paw the jab and use the laser right hand. He will at some point start to walk Manny down - and this is a scenario I am predicting. Manny on the back foot throwing wild combinations and getting countered like hell. The fight will be competitive no doubt but deep down inside me I truly believe Floyd Mayweather is the better ring technician and dare I say can match Mannys stamina


-#1 PacFan :

Great points by all including Freddie Roach. Manny can beat Floyd but IMO he will not. After analyzing and rethinking several outcomes I believe the fight will be won by the fighter who can make the necessary in ring adjustments as the fight goes on and to date non one does this better than Floyd Mayweather. Sure, Manny will pound him on the ropes , throw five six punch combos and be fllet footed. However as sure as day and night Floyd will start to make adjustments. He may stab the jab to the body or decide at some point to paw the jab and use the laser right hand. He will at some point start to walk Manny down - and this is a scenario I am predicting. Manny on the back foot throwing wild combinations and getting countered like hell. The fight will be competitive no doubt but deep down inside me I truly believe Floyd Mayweather is the better ring technician and dare I say can match Mannys stamina
I beg to differ. Walk Manny down? I would love for Floyd to try and do that. Nobody and I mean nobody has ever walked Manny down. Manny is an underrated counterpuncher but he is very good at punching and slipping. Manny is best when it comes to fighting while backing up. For example when Cotto and Hatton tried to walk Manny down he was able to sneak punches and combinations through. The only way Manny can lose is if he comes to the ring trying to box Floyd. Manny must win all the early rounds because Floyd tends to give away the early rounds. If Manny is ahead in the first half of the fight then Floyd is forced to get out of his gameplan and go after Manny. That's what I want to see Manny do is win as much rounds early and force Floyd to get desperate and take chances.


-Froggy :

I beg to differ. Walk Manny down? I would love for Floyd to try and do that. Nobody and I mean nobody has ever walked Manny down. Manny is an underrated counterpuncher but he is very good at punching and slipping. Manny is best when it comes to fighting while backing up. For example when Cotto and Hatton tried to walk Manny down he was able to sneak punches and combinations through. The only way Manny can lose is if he comes to the ring trying to box Floyd. Manny must win all the early rounds because Floyd tends to give away the early rounds. If Manny is ahead in the first half of the fight then Floyd is forced to get out of his gameplan and go after Manny. That's what I want to see Manny do is win as much rounds early and force Floyd to get desperate and take chances.
I think you are 100% right and that will be how the fight goes !


-Radam G :

I beg to differ. Walk Manny down? I would love for Floyd to try and do that. Nobody and I mean nobody has ever walked Manny down. Manny is an underrated counterpuncher but he is very good at punching and slipping. Manny is best when it comes to fighting while backing up. For example when Cotto and Hatton tried to walk Manny down he was able to sneak punches and combinations through. The only way Manny can lose is if he comes to the ring trying to box Floyd. Manny must win all the early rounds because Floyd tends to give away the early rounds. If Manny is ahead in the first half of the fight then Floyd is forced to get out of his gameplan and go after Manny. That's what I want to see Manny do is win as much rounds early and force Floyd to get desperate and take chances.
Ditto! Besides, it is pure bullsyet that Money May is all a sudden a big, bad walking-ev'bodee-and-dey-momma-down wolf. He ain't going to do syet! But try to run on those bad legs, hold, clinch, rope-a-dope, elbow and talk syet and clown. In the meantime, he will be eating mucho Pacshots, Pacmissiles and Pacnukes. And then, KABOOM! DOWN GO May weather! Holla!


-stormcentre :

It is a myth that Da Manny is more counter-punch vulnerable than any other pug in the history of the game. Matter of fact, Da Manny's defense is only about three percent lower than Money May. I put up an accurate video of that almost two weeks ago. Sorry that you missed it.
Maybe one of these haters up in this Universe will develop class and cojones and put it up again.
Haters? Is your house without mirrors? Manny's defence: Yes, you may be right, but this has (probably more than) some relation to whom Pacquaio fights and how fast they too are. [QUOTE=Radam G;78775] I'm pi$$ing them off. So I don't want to look as if I'm rubbing it in. Or even thinking about them.
Ev'ybodee and dey momma should have the right to express themselves in this Universe without rachet sarcasm coming at them. Holla![/QUOTE] Aside from the "curiosity" associated with that comment; so long as they whom author their (as you say) "expressions" (hatings?) are prepared to explain themselves in terms that makes sense and justify the post/publication of interest - then it is fine. However, I am not sure how well you have recently fared in those respects. Ev'ybodee and dey momma probably knows this. Holla. :)


-stormcentre :


Canelo is a bum I'm sorry to say. He popped Floyd with jabs but nothing was right behind it. Floyd took the fight to Canelo and he got shell shocked. Most of Floyd past opponents would have loved to faced that Floyd. If Floyd does try to impose hid physical advantages over PAC then Manny has an easy night. Floyd is so focused in training camp right now it is difficult to know what kind of Floyd we will see on May 2. Will we see the same old Floyd with defense first with better conditioning or will we see a new one who is really looking for take Manny out? We will see and the.wait is unbearable.
You sure Canelo is a bum? I mean, BUM; really? How so?


-stormcentre :

Great points by all including Freddie Roach. Manny can beat Floyd but IMO he will not. After analyzing and rethinking several outcomes I believe the fight will be won by the fighter who can make the necessary in ring adjustments as the fight goes on and to date non one does this better than Floyd Mayweather. Sure, Manny will pound him on the ropes , throw five six punch combos and be fllet footed. However as sure as day and night Floyd will start to make adjustments. He may stab the jab to the body or decide at some point to paw the jab and use the laser right hand. He will at some point start to walk Manny down - and this is a scenario I am predicting. Manny on the back foot throwing wild combinations and getting countered like hell. The fight will be competitive no doubt but deep down inside me I truly believe Floyd Mayweather is the better ring technician and dare I say can match Mannys stamina
Good post, and not just cause you're backing Floyd. :)


-stormcentre :

I beg to differ. Walk Manny down? I would love for Floyd to try and do that.
Nobody and I mean nobody has ever walked Manny down. Manny is an underrated counterpuncher but he is very good at punching and slipping. Manny is best when it comes to fighting while backing up. For example when Cotto and Hatton tried to walk Manny down he was able to sneak punches and combinations through. The only way Manny can lose is if he comes to the ring trying to box Floyd. Manny must win all the early rounds because Floyd tends to give away the early rounds. If Manny is ahead in the first half of the fight then Floyd is forced to get out of his gameplan and go after Manny. That's what I want to see Manny do is win as much rounds early and force Floyd to get desperate and take chances.
I know that Pacman beat him, but check the Margarito V Pacquaio fight. There was a few times there that Margarito did walk Pacquaio down. Admittedly it was not always a successful strategy. :)


-#1 PacFan :

You sure Canelo is a bum? I mean, BUM; really? How so?
He has no skills. Nor does he have any Mexican like fighter in him. If you cant beat a guy who is out if his comfort zone meaning beating you in your own game then what can you do? He couldnt use his physical advantages so Floyd exploited him and embarrass himself in front of thousands of Mexican fans. Mexicans are well known for their toughness and he didn't show it. That's why Marquez IMO is the best Mexican fighter when it comes to skills and toughness. Canelo just don't belong amongst the elite. He needs to show me more.


-#1 PacFan :

I know that Pacman beat him, but check the Margarito V Pacquaio fight. There was a few times there that Margarito did walk Pacquaio down. Admittedly it was not always a successful strategy. :)
Yes he was able to walk Manny down but Floyd is not as big as Marg nor does he come forward constantly. I mean if this is what Floyd wants to do then scratch my prediction and change it to round 5. To walk Manny down you have to throw more than 1-2 IMO.


-amayseng :

Good God almighty Mary and Joseph!! Now Margarito walked Pac down??? Walking forward into a hammering getting your *** handed to you is not walking a fighter down. Walking forward is not walking a fighter down. Putting a fighter in retreat while breaking him down as he is helpless to a stoppage is walking a fighter down. My Lord. Was Chino walking Floyd down as he was coming forward the whole fight pushing the pace? NO What has happened to everyone?


-#1 PacFan :

Good God almighty Mary and Joseph!! Now Margarito walked Pac down??? Walking forward into a hammering getting your *** handed to you is not walking a fighter down. Walking forward is not walking a fighter down. Putting a fighter in retreat while breaking him down as he is helpless to a stoppage is walking a fighter down. My Lord. Was Chino walking Floyd down as he was coming forward the whole fight pushing the pace? NO What has happened to everyone?
My version on walking down is that Marg was able to but he was taking major punishment at the same time. Maidana was walking Floyd down too but couldn't sustain the pressure in every round. I think Maidana did win that fight. Just wanted to throw that out there.


-amayseng :

My version on walking down is that Marg was able to but he was taking major punishment at the same time. Maidana was walking Floyd down too but couldn't sustain the pressure in every round. I think Maidana did win that fight. Just wanted to throw that out there.
We all clearly have different definitions of "walking a man down". Coming forward and pushing a pace while getting peppered and losing the round to me is not walking a man down especially if he is do7ng the damage and controlling the fight. walking a man down is when the pressure u are putting on him is breaking him down mentally physically and spiritually, hence Kovalev, GGG and JCC


-#1 PacFan :

We all clearly have different definitions of "walking a man down". Coming forward and pushing a pace while getting peppered and losing the round to me is not walking a man down especially if he is do7ng the damage and controlling the fight. walking a man down is when the pressure u are putting on him is breaking him down mentally physically and spiritually, hence Kovalev, GGG and JCC
Agreed! Chino was walking Floyd down IMO but he prolly ran out of gas.


-Radam G :

We all clearly have different definitions of "walking a man down". Coming forward and pushing a pace while getting peppered and losing the round to me is not walking a man down especially if he is do7ng the damage and controlling the fight. walking a man down is when the pressure u are putting on him is breaking him down mentally physically and spiritually, hence Kovalev, GGG and JCC
Wow! This "walking-down" phrase is BUNK! And the latest bytched-out catch-phrase propaganda coming from The Money Team. Holla!


-amayseng :

Wow! This "walking-down" phrase is BUNK! And the latest bytched-out catch-phrase propaganda coming from The Money Team. Holla!
Exactly and regurgitated without thought to the "Mayweather blind"


-stormcentre :

He has no skills. Nor does he have any Mexican like fighter in him. If you cant beat a guy who is out if his comfort zone meaning beating you in your own game then what can you do? He couldnt use his physical advantages so Floyd exploited him and embarrass himself in front of thousands of Mexican fans. Mexicans are well known for their toughness and he didn't show it. That's why Marquez IMO is the best Mexican fighter when it comes to skills and toughness. Canelo just don't belong amongst the elite. He needs to show me more.
Not sure whether what you have said there (even if correct) means Canelo is a bum.


-stormcentre :


Yes he was able to walk Manny down but Floyd is not as big as Marg nor does he come forward constantly. I mean if this is what Floyd wants to do then scratch my prediction and change it to round 5. To walk Manny down you have to throw more than 1-2 IMO.
Just what I have bolded above means that the issue I had (with your previous post) was not unreasonable. As that and your current post are in conflict in relation to the above clarification.


-stormcentre :

Good God almighty Mary and Joseph!! Now Margarito walked Pac down??? Walking forward into a hammering getting your *** handed to you is not walking a fighter down. Walking forward is not walking a fighter down. Putting a fighter in retreat while breaking him down as he is helpless to a stoppage is walking a fighter down. My Lord. Was Chino walking Floyd down as he was coming forward the whole fight pushing the pace? NO What has happened to everyone?
Check my original post (to which you have replied), as I believe its contents and caveats handle the issues you raise. " "I know that Pacman beat him, but check the Margarito V Pacquaio fight. There was a few times there that Margarito did walk Pacquaio down.
Admittedly it was not always a successful strategy"."


-stormcentre :

My version on walking down is that Marg was able to but he was taking major punishment at the same time. Maidana was walking Floyd down too but couldn't sustain the pressure in every round. I think Maidana did win that fight. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Cool. However, even the author of the genesis post that gave rise to this discussion (you) has now had admitted that the (thereabouts) claim that "no-one has veer walked Pacman down" is not entirely correct; based on my response and caveats pertaining to Margarito. Antonio did walk Pacman down, but - as I say - he (eventually) paid for it. This does not mean Pacman has has never been walked down; just as (you post #26 infers) shown by the Maidana V Floyd fight - where, despite Maidana walking Floyd down, Maidana still didn't score a KO and also paid for the strategy with a loss. So, this discussion is pretty much done/dusted. That said, thanks for your last response.


-#1 PacFan :

Not sure whether what you have said there (even if correct) means Canelo is a bum.
Is he elite in your eyes? Give me something that will convince me he isn't.


-#1 PacFan :

Just what I have bolded above means that the issue I had (with your previous post) was not unreasonable. As that and your current post are in conflict in relation to the above clarification.
It still states that nobody has walked him down. Who won the fight? I'm stating that you can try but good luck because Manny thrills off aggression. Didn't you know that?


-stormcentre :

Is he elite in your eyes? Give me something that will convince me he isn't.
Hold on . . . the goalposts they are a changing. Is the issue whether Canelo is a bum? Or whether Canelo is elite? And how does the latter prove the former?


-stormcentre :


It still states that nobody has walked him down. Who won the fight? I'm stating that you can try but good luck because Manny thrills off aggression. Didn't you know that?
[QUOTE=#1 PacFan;78807]
Yes he was able to walk Manny down but Floyd is not as big as Marg nor does he come forward constantly. I mean if this is what Floyd wants to do then scratch my prediction and change it to round 5. To walk Manny down you have to throw more than 1-2 IMO.[/QUOTE] Excuse me? We are not making sense here. On one hand you're saying Margarito did walk Manny down (your bolded words); which was on the back of you saying nobody walks Pac down. Then, on the other hand, you're (now, seemingly) saying
It still states that nobody has walked him down. I gotta tell ya . . . if a lot of you guys were on any other forum and talking this much rubbish, you would be either suspended or banned. However, despite how I may have the ability to pull that chord; it is not my style (as you can clearly see). That said, I wish it was not the style of some of the posters here to continually output these kind of fan-boy jive talk sliding discussions, back them up with more inconsistent rubbish, and then treat them like they're god's truth (when questioned); despite the obvious lack of any ability to substantiate the position they uphold - even in their own terms/words. If nothing else it is good humour. Keep trying to shove 5 litres of plasma down your sockets and calling it vampire facial blood doping guys; so there is an excuse if Floyd wins. None of it matters though, cause Floyd's legs are shot. LMFAO. :)


-The Shadow :

I know that Pacman beat him, but check the Margarito V Pacquaio fight. There was a few times there that Margarito did walk Pacquaio down. Admittedly it was not always a successful strategy. :)
I don't know Storm, [URL="https://youtu.be/tHj2P04ElEo?t=4m18s">this guy [/URL]seems to be walking him down quite consistently. Looked like it worked out for him pretty well, didn't it? :)


-stormcentre :


It still states that nobody has walked him down. Who won the fight? I'm stating that you can try but good luck because Manny thrills off aggression. Didn't you know that?
[QUOTE=#1 PacFan;78807]
Yes he was able to walk Manny down but Floyd is not as big as Marg nor does he come forward constantly. I mean if this is what Floyd wants to do then scratch my prediction and change it to round 5. To walk Manny down you have to throw more than 1-2 IMO.[/QUOTE] Excuse me? We are not making sense here. On one hand you're saying Margarito did walk Manny down (your bolded words); which was on the back of you saying nobody walks Pac down. Then, on the other hand, you're (now, seemingly) saying
It still states that nobody has walked him down. I gotta tell ya . . . if a lot of you guys were on any other forum and talking this much rubbish, you would be either suspended or banned. However, despite how I may have the ability to pull that chord; it is not my style (as you can clearly see). That said, I wish it was not the style of some of the posters here to continually output these kind of fan-boy jive talk sliding discussions, back them up with more inconsistent rubbish, and then treat them like they're god's truth (when questioned); despite the obvious lack of any ability to substantiate the position they uphold - even in their own terms/words. If nothing else it is good humour. Keep trying to shove 5 litres of plasma down your sockets and calling it vampire facial blood doping guys; so there is an excuse if Floyd wins. None of it matters though, cause Floyd's legs are shot. LMFAO. :)


-stormcentre :

I don't know Storm, [URL="https://youtu.be/tHj2P04ElEo?t=4m18s">this guy [/URL]seems to be walking him down quite consistently. Looked like it worked out for him pretty well, didn't it? :)
Despite the solid video evidence; it can't be true Shadow, cause; A) Floyd is a naughty vampire facial blood doper even though that doesn't make sense in haemoglobin terms. B) Floyd's legs are shot. C) No-one has ever walked Pac down. D) We are told here information that effectively states "no-one has ever walked Pac down". Keep the good (unsubstantiated) stuff coming boys, this is a scream. :)


-#1 PacFan :

Storms clearly irritated now lol.


-stormcentre :

Nope - wrong again. Just keeping it real. :)


-#1 PacFan :

Excuse me? We are not making sense here. On one hand you're saying Margarito did walk Manny down (your bolded words); which was on the back of you saying nobody walks Pac down. Then, on the other hand, you're (now, seemingly) saying
It still states that nobody has walked him down. I gotta tell ya . . . if a lot of you guys were on any other forum and talking this much rubbish, you would be either suspended or banned. However, despite how I may have the ability to pull that chord; it is not my style (as you can clearly see). That said, I wish it was not the style of some of the posters here to continually output these kind of fan-boy jive talk sliding discussions, back them up with more inconsistent rubbish, and then treat them like they're god's truth (when questioned); despite the obvious lack of any ability to substantiate the position they uphold - even in their own terms/words. If nothing else it is good humour. Keep trying to shove 5 litres of plasma down your sockets and calling it vampire facial blood doping guys; so there is an excuse if Floyd wins. None of it matters though, cause Floyd's legs are shot. LMFAO. :)
Rubbish? You clearly show that you are irritated of what my opinions are. Simple solution to ignore my rubbish and that's to scroll pass my post.


-#1 PacFan :

And for the record I'm no fan boy like what you're used to seeing from other sites. I've been a fan of the sport for a long time.


-#1 PacFan :

Despite the solid video evidence; it can't be true Shadow, cause; A) Floyd is a naughty vampire facial blood doper even though that doesn't make sense in haemoglobin terms. B) Floyd's legs are shot. C) No-one has ever walked Pac down. D) We are told here information that effectively states "no-one has ever walked Pac down". Keep the good (unsubstantiated) stuff coming boys, this is a scream. :)
You remind me of Salt lover man haha. He was another one that went on and on ranting everytime Floyd is criticized or Manny is praised. Look him up you'll see...oh wait that was back in 08-10.


-stormcentre :

Rubbish? You clearly show that you are irritated of what my opinions are. Simple solution to ignore my rubbish and that's to scroll pass my post.
Nope you're wrong again. The fact of he matter is I wouldn't get the laughs I get if we didn't do this. I love how I can show you your own hypocrisy and you still continue. If you have no issue with embarrassing yourself; why should I? As far as you (personally) bothering me is concerned; don't give yourself too much credit. If you bothered me I would have you removed from site or suspended. You can PM the owner and check if you like. Think about that, try and keep it real, and don't mistake my kindness for a weakness.


-stormcentre :

And for the record I'm no fan boy like what you're used to seeing from other sites. I've been a fan of the sport for a long time.
That's good then. So, please post in away where it's not so easy to find (hating based) conflicts within your own words.


-stormcentre :

You remind me of Salt lover man haha. He was another one that went on and on ranting everytime Floyd is criticized or Manny is praised. Look him up you'll see...oh wait that was back in 08-10.
I am "ranting" about your inconsistency. I don't care whether Floyd or Pac is criticised. I do care if criticism is so loosely flowing and inconsistent that the author himself not only can't substantiate it - but continues to release more when someone (as is their right) questions the basis of it. The reason I care about this is it brings the quality of the site and forum down, and you should know that if - as you say in your above post #42 - you have been a fan for a long time. I hope you don't continue with this line of discussion as I don't want you to be the first guy I suspend or remove, as I like your posts.
If you doubt my ability to do any of the above please PM Dino Da Vinci (TSS) owner. Take care and make the right decisions Number #1 Pac fan, as I like you here; provided you're sensible. Lately, I am not sure that has always been the case.


-Radam G :

You remind me of Salt lover man haha. He was another one that went on and on ranting everytime Floyd is criticized or Manny is praised. Look him up you'll see...oh wait that was back in 08-10.
No doubt! These dudes go ballistic when you say any truths about Da Manny and truths about the downside of Money May. What some amazing syet. Hehehe! And in Money May's own words he doesn't give a flying f*** about them. Holla!


-dino da vinci :

Ahhh, the passion this sport can evoke. We are off to get dinner then I would like to come in and offer my insight, for whatever it's worth. It will basically come down to this. Manny is an all-time great... Money May is a bit better. D


-#1 PacFan :

That's good then. So, please post in away where it's not so easy to find (hating based) conflicts within your own words.
Hating based? LMAO! Me critizing Floyd is hating? Go to other forums buddy and you'll see hating. I don't bother even posting there cuz its a waste of time. If me voicing my opinion is hating based then you obviously can't stand the fact that its a forum with opinions. Is this why I don't see the old school posters on here anymore? The roast Dave B and more.


-#1 PacFan :

I am "ranting" about your inconsistency. I don't care whether Floyd or Pac is criticised. I do care if criticism is so loosely flowing and inconsistent that the author himself not only can't substantiate it - but continues to release more when someone (as is their right) questions the basis of it. The reason I care about this is it brings the quality of the site and forum down, and you should know that if - as you say in your above post #42 - you have been a fan for a long time. I hope you don't continue with this line of discussion as I don't want you to be the first guy I suspend or remove, as I like your posts.
If you doubt my ability to do any of the above please PM Dino Da Vinci (TSS) owner. Take care and make the right decisions Number #1 Pac fan, as I like you here; provided you're sensible. Lately, I am not sure that has always been the case.
IMA be honest with ya. This is the only site I love to posts on but I can careless if you remove me. I will stand by my opinions and if it will affect my account then so be it. You sound like a very intelligent person so I trust you make the right decision.


-#1 PacFan :

No doubt! These dudes go ballistic when you say any truths about Da Manny and truths about the downside of Money May. What some amazing syet. Hehehe! And in Money May's own words he doesn't give a flying f*** about them. Holla!
What happened here brother? I don't see any of the old school posters on here. Are we being policed and judged by our posts. I remember Mike would just warned us when we went out of line and that was threats of fighting.


-#1 PacFan :

Ahhh, the passion this sport can evoke. We are off to get dinner then I would like to come in and offer my insight, for whatever it's worth. It will basically come down to this. Manny is an all-time great... Money May is a bit better. D
Dino! How have you been? Its been a long time. Enjoy dinner!


-#1 PacFan :

Nope you're wrong again. The fact of he matter is I wouldn't get the laughs I get if we didn't do this. I love how I can show you your own hypocrisy and you still continue. If you have no issue with embarrassing yourself; why should I? As far as you (personally) bothering me is concerned; don't give yourself too much credit. If you bothered me I would have you removed from site or suspended. You can PM the owner and check if you like. Think about that, try and keep it real, and don't mistake my kindness for a weakness.
Is this a threat? Wow! Embarrass me? From who? Looks like you've removed everyone already lol.


-Radam G :

What happened here brother? I don't see any of the old school posters on here. Are we being policed and judged by our posts. I remember Mike would just warned us when we went out of line and that was threats of fighting.
Actually, they are fed up with the long-winded bullsyet and sarcasm against them for what they post. Freedom-of-speech dictators are trying to control everybody's flow. And make you abide by outdated clumsiness that they believe still exist. They are so far behind the super speed of technology acceleration that it is shocking. I'm sure that you can feel the stress because their attack dog is all up on your six. I'm getting a lot of private messages from old posters asking when is this guy and the ones encouraging him are going to be given a notice to halt. "Maybe after on his cuts, someone will put some salt." yours truly said. No doubt that is it a little lonely up in this Universe right now because of the chaos. But when it halts. The old-skool cat will pop up posting and drinking their health-food malts. The dance between Da Manny and Lil Floyd has brought some straight-up meanness and mocking. And you cannot say anything about Lil Floyd without being ambushed. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! Just hang in there. Happy days will be here again:
->http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UH01FhqMdc8. Holla!


-#1 PacFan :

Actually, they are fed up with the long-winded bullsyet and sarcasm against them for what they post. Freedom-of-speech dictators are trying to control everybody's flow. And make you abide by outdated clumsiness that they believe still exist. They are so far behind the super speed of technology acceleration that it is shocking. I'm sure that you can feel the stress because their attack dog is all up on your six. I'm getting a lot of private messages from old posters asking when is this guy and the ones encouraging him are going to be given a notice to halt. "Maybe after on his cuts, someone will put some salt." yours truly said. No doubt that is it a little lonely up in this Universe right now because of the chaos. But when it halts. The old-skool cat will pop up posting and drinking their health-food malts. The dance between Da Manny and Lil Floyd has brought some straight-up meanness and mocking. And you cannot say anything about Lil Floyd without being ambushed. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! Just hang in there. Happy days will be here again:
->http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UH01FhqMdc8. Holla!
I might not get that privilege as I'm on the verge of being banned. No worries.I'm in a hectic life but still followed the sport so when I heard of Manny-Floyd a done deal I felt I needed to make sure to make time for TSS. See where everyone still stood on the fight.


-the Roast :

Just what in the Hell is going on here? I've been away for a bit so I'm not up to speed. You won't be banned #1. It takes a lot to get banned. You have a lot of cred built up from the early days. Storm is a newer but well respected poster here. You guys can just agree to disagree and move on. The fight will settle everything.


-Radam G :

I might not get that privilege as I'm on the verge of being banned. No worries.I'm in a hectic life but still followed the sport so when I heard of Manny-Floyd a done deal I felt I needed to make sure to make time for TSS. See where everyone still stood on the fight.
Cut it out! You are nowhere near to being banned. Free speech exist here. And the powers that are appreciate your posts and point-of-views. As I've said, the dance between Money May and Da Manny has messed up some readers up in their membranes. "FloydHype" -- I mean "FightHype" is Lil Floyd's flagship cyberzine, not "The Sweet Science." The virus being spread by FightHype will be gone long before you. Do your thing. And keep spittin' out those informative' crafty posts. Holla!


-dino da vinci :

Just what in the Hell is going on here? I've been away for a bit so I'm not up to speed. You won't be banned #1. It takes a lot to get banned. You have a lot of cred built up from the early days. Storm is a newer but well respected poster here. You guys can just agree to disagree and move on. The fight will settle everything.
@ #1PacMan. Good thank You. You? @ theRoast. Just watched my iPad freeze and gobble my well crafted post. Hope things are good, will be back after a cooling off period. Darn Forum! Back in a bit with my immediate plans and my two cents.


-stormcentre :

Ladies and gentlemen I believe my post (in question) had the caveat of being sensible attached to it; before any suspension and/or banning that would otherwise apply came into effect. I would hope that (being sensible) is not a too difficult mountain to scale. MMMRG I am not sure whether your stirring comments really constitute freedom of speech either, particularly given they have the effect of prolonging the perceived issue; a commonly overlooked point in your posts. How about setting an example instead, particularly given that there is an enormous amount of posts from you lately that you yourself simply can't and/or won't substantiate; that are scathing of Floyd in terms that, when asked to substantiate, go either nowhere or set about to release more of the same. Forums are a place for free speech - but hypocritical hating smear campaigns full of factoids that their authors, at best, struggle to substantiate; even in their own terms. Anyone expressing themselves is fine, but some here are quite literally releasing multiple-serial hating posts that they themselves regularly struggle to clarify and substantiate; which is edging close to being nothing more than propaganda and smear campaigns. Please lift your game(s). In essence that is the simple and not unreasonable message. If you can't substantiate harsh comments and/or smear campaign posts (as has been the case here for sometime now) then obviously they're bordering on being open to judgement as to whether they're hypocritical and/or untruthful. If that judgement is not well received then I suggest dealing with the matter in a manner that is not symptomatic. By that I mean look at the post in question that you write and ask yourself if there is a reason it can't be substantiated (by it's author), and/or why it conflicts with your previous posts and in many cases reality. For the record, I actually receive my fare share of PM's that support my efforts to bring, at least, a bit of non-hating consistency to the forum. Usually, myself, I try not to release posts that I can't substantiate (whether or not they're full of extremely harsh content); as that is lying. That's just me though. I appreciate those values are not everyone's. :)


-stormcentre :

Ladies and gentlemen I believe my post (in question) had the caveat of being sensible attached to it; before any suspension and/or banning that would otherwise apply came into effect. I would hope that (being sensible) is not a too difficult mountain to scale. MMMRG I am not sure whether your stirring comments really constitute freedom of speech either, particularly given they have the effect of prolonging the perceived issue; a commonly overlooked point in your posts. How about setting an example instead, particularly given that there is an enormous amount of posts from you lately that you yourself simply can't and/or won't substantiate; that are scathing of Floyd in terms that, when asked to substantiate, go either nowhere or set about to release more of the same. Forums are a place for free speech yes. But multiple hypocritical hating smear campaigns full of factoids masquerading as posts, that their authors, at best, struggle to substantiate; even in their own terms - that's not any kind of freedom of speech that deserves to be unaddressed. Not in the least as you yourselves dislike even being slightly questioned about it; even though much of the content is not only extremely personalised and harsh to (usually) Floyd - but also, on many occasions - unable to be supported by facts. Anyone expressing themselves is fine. But some here are quite literally releasing multiple-serial hating factoid posts that they themselves regularly struggle to clarify and substantiate; which is edging close to being nothing more than propaganda and smear campaigns. I mean, is that really what you want to use the forum for? To continually release extremely harsh and untruthful claims about fighters that you can't substantiate; even when asked to - and then call it (restriction of) free speech when the substantiation can't be found? Please lift your game(s). In essence that is the simple and not unreasonable message. If you can't substantiate harsh comments and/or smear campaign posts (as has been the case here for sometime now) then obviously they're bordering on being open to judgement as to whether they're hypocritical and/or untruthful. If that judgement is not well received then I suggest dealing with the matter in a manner that is not symptomatic. By that I mean look at the post in question that you write and ask yourself if there is a reason it can't be substantiated (by it's author), and/or why it conflicts with your previous posts and in many cases reality. For the record, I actually receive my fare share of PM's that support my efforts to bring, at least, a bit of non-hating consistency to the forum. Usually, myself, I try not to release posts that I can't substantiate (whether or not they're full of extremely harsh content); as that is lying. That's just me though. I appreciate those values are not everyone's. :)


-leon30001 :

I got banned for calling out the editor on posting completely non-boxing-related anti-gun/pro Democrat articles! Regardless of one's position, it's hardly the forum for it, is it?!


-amayseng :

What in the world is going on here? Members being threatened of being banned for "bothering" another member? Why and secondly is power really being thrown around here like this? this is TSS the greatest forum ever created stop this nonsense for respect and integrity of the site already


-Radam G :

What in the world is going on here? Members being threatened of being banned for "bothering" another member? Why and secondly is power really being thrown around here like this? this is TSS the greatest forum ever created stop this nonsense for respect and integrity of the site already
Hehe! By a ?ock$ure one with a giant imagination, and has gotten a little manic. But has not the power to crush that metaphoric grape. Classic! Talking about stranger than fiction. And no doubt crying out like the "theatre of the unexpected." The game of boksing has often made fans show their arses for no reason than getting upset about a term of a conning pug all a sudden becoming a walk-you-down-big-bad wolf. OMFG! Only in 'em eyes of the beholder. Just wait until Da Manny broke the "Mayvinci Code" and busts Money May up. There are going to be knuckleheads on the meanstreets of the mainland USA who are going to make that threat in this Universe look like a peace rally. Can we just all get alone? Holla!


-#1 PacFan :

Just what in the Hell is going on here? I've been away for a bit so I'm not up to speed. You won't be banned #1. It takes a lot to get banned. You have a lot of cred built up from the early days. Storm is a newer but well respected poster here. You guys can just agree to disagree and move on. The fight will settle everything.
Roast! My brother! How many kids with Anna now haha. Agree to disagree! That's the line I was looking for. Storm sounds very fluid with his posts which surprised me how he reacted to my posts. All good something different right?


-#1 PacFan :

@ #1PacMan. Good thank You. You? @ theRoast. Just watched my iPad freeze and gobble my well crafted post. Hope things are good, will be back after a cooling off period. Darn Forum! Back in a bit with my immediate plans and my two cents.
I'm good man! Looks like you've worked you way to the top. Grats!!


-Domenic :

Ahhh, the passion this sport can evoke. We are off to get dinner then I would like to come in and offer my insight, for whatever it's worth. It will basically come down to this. Manny is an all-time great... Money May is a bit better. D
Ah, the voice of reason prevails. I'm a paradox in that I agree with DDV, Floyd will win (by wide UD in a dull fight that falls miles short of expectations, with no knockdowns), but I'm rooting for Pacquiao. As Roast said, the fight will settle everything. Stormcentre - Kudos to your posts. You point-blank ask people to simply back their contentions up with logic and reason, and that query is always completely ignored and just leads to a launching of more insults. Haha. I'd like to read Mortcola's thoughts, but he steers clear of nonsense.


-Radam G :

Ah, the voice of reason prevails. I'm a paradox in that I agree with DDV, Floyd will win (by wide UD in a dull fight that falls miles short of expectations, with no knockdowns), but I'm rooting for Pacquiao. As Roast said, the fight will settle everything. Stormcentre - Kudos to your posts. You point-blank ask people to simply back their contentions up with logic and reason, and that query is always completely ignored and just leads to a launching of more insults. Haha. I'd like to read Mortcola's thoughts, but he steers clear of nonsense.
What type of logic and reason? His definition? When a person is stuck into his on syet and becomes an attack dog for invisible people, it is called the Bell's Curve's logic and reasoning. Straight-up logic and reasons of ________ __________. No answer is sufficient for that type. We are not dealing with rocket science, but the sweet science. And it is not complicated or sophisticated. This is why the teachers of it from the beginning of time tell pugs: "Don't REACH! Don't OVER EXTEND! Shorten up those shots. Don't shoot from so far out. Keep everything short and tight, Etc., etc. C'mon, MAN! GTFOH! One cannot fool those in da know with a lot of circumlocution, bluffing and bytches-up charade-character attacking. You can give that person what you called "simply back their contentions up with logic and reason" and he will either ignore or mock and attack you some more and harder. How crazy does it get? I gave him a video that originated from one of TSS's "The Boxing Channel" correspondents. He didn't catch on to my testing him, and mocked that correspondent as "not keeping it real, as he has repeatly done me. All respect due to Stormcente! But he is doing all the no-nos of boxing's reaching, extending and shooting from too far out. Maybe you haven't notice but 90 percent of the regs are now "Mortcola"-ing the aggressive Stormcentre. I got mad luv for him. But right now he is manic, IMHO, and is being used by some Pachaters and May nut-riders. Maybe they don't have the cojones to interrupt this second-to-none Forum themselves, so they got them a surrogate Storm. Meanwhile back to boxing: Camp Mayweather is in chaos and is falling like Rome. But in hours, not years. Holla!


-Domenic :

All respect due to Stormcente! But he is doing all the no-nos of boxing's reaching, extending and shooting from too far out. Maybe you haven't notice but 90 percent of the regs are now "Mortcola"-ing the aggressive Stormcentre. I got mad luv for him. But right now he is manic, IMHO, and is being used by some Pachaters and May nut-riders. Maybe they don't have the cojones to interrupt this second-to-none Forum themselves, so they got them a surrogate
I refuse to get into a pi$$ing match with you, because it will go nowhere and adds nothing substantive to the debate. That said, have you ever read your own posts? Seriously. You are the biggest "flomo and fanfaronade" for Pacquiao on this planet (your words on another thread, thus the quotation). I swear to God I've NEVER seen a man worship at the feet of another man like you do Pacquiao. Do you have a poster of him over your bed? You accuse people of attacking, yet all you do is launch insults and attack (I PROMISE that your response will be full-blown ad hominem). No problem. I'm actually rooting for your idol. How old are you, 13?


-Radam G :

I refuse to get into a pi$$ing match with you, because it will go nowhere and adds nothing substantive to the debate. That said, have you ever read your own posts? Seriously. You are the biggest "flomo and fanfaronade" for Pacquiao on this planet (your words on another thread, thus the quotation). I swear to God I've NEVER seen a man worship at the feet of another man like you do Pacquiao. Do you have a poster of him over your bed? You accuse people of attacking, yet all you do is launch insults and attack (I PROMISE that your response will be full-blown ad hominem). No problem. I'm actually rooting for your idol. How old are you, 13?
Ditto dat! It is a big waste. But you did put in your two cents and started pi$$ing. And you are full of yourself. I'm no different from Roberto Duran, GOAt Ali, Iron Mike, Erik Morales, Teddy Atlas, Senator Harry Reid, "Deon" Leon" Spinks, Aaron "Hawk time" Pryor and umpteen other boxers who have picked Da Manny. Moving on! This is a Free Forum for even ______ ______! Hehehe! Holla!


-Froggy :

Ditto dat! It is a big waste. But you did put in your two cents and started pi$$ing. And you are full of yourself. I'm no different from Roberto Duran, GOAt Ali, Iron Mike, Erik Morales, Teddy Atlas, Senator Harry Reid, "Deon" Leon" Spinks, Aaron "Hawk time" Pryor and umpteen other boxers who have picked Da Manny. Moving on! This is a Free Forum for even ______ ______! Hehehe! Holla!
WOW, I feel honored to be part of such a group picking Pacquiao to win !


-#1 PacFan :

WOW, I feel honored to be part of such a group picking Pacquiao to win !
What group is this? Are we being isolated for having opinions and having to be called fanforades or fan boys because we are huge fans of one fighter? Pretty sad if you ask me. I thought this was the P4P best site in the world? Let's stop with the sensitivity and let it loose.


-#1 PacFan :

WOW, I feel honored to be part of such a group picking Pacquiao to win !
Last post was not meant to criticize or dissect your post BTW. Just using as a reference. And that's a pretty good darn list of grouos!


-Froggy :

I was only referring to the group Radam mentioned in his last post, I should have replied with his quote, I did mean to ! A bunch of Hall of Famers is a pretty good group !


-Radam G :

What group is this? Are we being isolated for having opinions and having to be called fanforades or fan boys because we are huge fans of one fighter? Pretty sad if you ask me. I thought this was the P4P best site in the world? Let's stop with the sensitivity and let it loose.
I know which post that you meant this for. But like I said the worst always come out of people when it is about Da Manny and Lil Floyd. And you can bet your arse that they are isolating opinions as us against them. This sickling behavior never halts. Especially when one thinks that he is a BIG man because he can ask you if you are 13. Pucking A! I got a 13-year-old daughter -- who is taking classes at UCLA this summer -- and a 13-year-old helicopter-flying cousin who can put dude to shame in a New York minute. Matter of fact Money May's and Da Manny's daughters will put him to shame. What a lot of energy haters bring. OMFG! Ev'ybodee and dey momma need to chillax! It ain't that serious! Holla!


-Domenic :

I know which post that you meant this for. But like I said the worst always come out of people when it is about Da Manny and Lil Floyd. And you can bet your arse that they are isolating opinions as us against them. This sickling behavior never halts. Especially when one thinks that he is a BIG man because he can ask you if you are 13. Pucking A! I got a 13-year-old daughter -- who is taking classes at UCLA this summer -- and a 13-year-old helicopter-flying cousin who can put dude to shame in a New York minute. Matter of fact Money May's and Da Manny's daughters will put him to shame. What a lot of energy haters bring. OMFG! Ev'ybodee and dey momma need to chillax! It ain't that serious! Holla!
You are the biggest Pacdyke on the planet. It's not even debatable. If you could be Mrs. Manny Pacquiao, you'd be up for that assignment - quickly. But like I said, I'm pulling for the man for whom you lust and yearn so deeply and passionately. So ironically, we're on the same side here. Stormcentre asks you repeatedly to back up your venom with facts. You never do; instead, you veer off into an incomprehensible tirade about vampire facials or a-side meth or another red herring, while always referencing fanfaronades/flomos/floydykes, etc. It never fails. Reread your posts. Pick any of them. You accuse people of hating, yet all you do is hate. It's astonishing hypocrisy. But you simply lack the requisite emotional intelligence to even realize that you are the hater. Regarding being 13, your posts resemble that of a prepubescent teen, so I thought you were somewhere between 10 and 13 years old. I had no idea you're a grown man.


-Radam G :

You are the biggest Pacdyke on the planet. It's not even debatable. If you could be Mrs. Manny Pacquiao, you'd be up for that assignment - quickly. But like I said, I'm pulling for the man for whom you lust and yearn so deeply and passionately. So ironically, we're on the same side here. Stormcentre asks you repeatedly to back up your venom with facts. You never do; instead, you veer off into an incomprehensible tirade about vampire facials or a-side meth or another red herring, while always referencing fanfaronades/flomos/floydykes, etc. It never fails. Reread your posts. Pick any of them. You accuse people of hating, yet all you do is hate. It's astonishing hypocrisy. But you simply lack the requisite emotional intelligence to even realize that you are the hater. Regarding being 13, your posts resemble that of a prepubescent teen, so I thought you were somewhere between 10 and 13 years old. I had no idea you're a grown man.
You are nothing but a classic stereotyping bigot and a stalking idiot. I'm from a boxing family, and a highly educated one too, ___. GTFOH! Grow the mental puck up! You and Storm and nobody else tell me what or how to post. Do I tell you, ______? I didn't think so! And will I see you at the fights or anywhere else but causing stife in cyberspace? I did not think so. Get off my six, Internet tough guy! You don't have many ideas of anything because you are a spineless ______ with a grade-school education. If the scribes here don't feel a need to educate your dumb arse. It is not my job to do so. You stalking POS. And welcome to my ignore list. ______ _______. I bet your biological age is probably about 10-to-12 years time your mental age. As old as you are, you can still be fooled by circumlocution. Get a life! We live in the age of acceleration technology of everything, you idiot and faker. I won't be hearing from you anymore ______ ______ _______ and _______ _____! Holla!


-Domenic :

You are nothing but a classic stereotyping bigot and a stalking idiot. I'm from a boxing family, and a highly educated one too, ___. GTFOH! Grow the mental puck up! You and Storm and nobody else tell me what or how to post. Do I tell you, ______? I didn't think so! And will I see you at the fights or anywhere else but causing stife in cyberspace? I did not think so. Get off my six, Internet tough guy! You don't have many ideas of anything because you are a spineless ______ with a grade-school education. If the scribes here don't feel a need to educate your dumb arse. It is not my job to do so. You stalking POS. And welcome to my ignore list. ______ _______. I bet your biological age is probably about 10-to-12 years time your mental age. As old as you are, you can still be fooled by circumlocution. Get a life! We live in the age of acceleration technology of everything, you idiot and faker. I won't be hearing from you anymore ______ ______ _______ and _______ _____! Holla!
Huh?? Uh yeah, you hit the nail on the head, I'm a bigot/stalker/fanfaronade/floydyke/flomo. Nice use of that higher education of yours. I would expect someone with your self-proclaimed erudition to be a little more original than just regurgitating the same tired, hackneyed nonsense. If you represent the learned, God help us all. But that's your trademark, your signature. And thank you for putting me on your ignore list. It's an honor and my pleasure to be there. But I'm going to keep reading your stuff. It's fascinating, in an idiot savant kind of way, with the emphasis on idiot. Holla!


-stormcentre :

What type of logic and reason? His definition? When a person is stuck into his on syet and becomes an attack dog for invisible people, it is called the Bell's Curve's logic and reasoning. Straight-up logic and reasons of ________ __________. No answer is sufficient for that type. We are not dealing with rocket science, but the sweet science. And it is not complicated or sophisticated. This is why the teachers of it from the beginning of time tell pugs: "Don't REACH! Don't OVER EXTEND! Shorten up those shots. Don't shoot from so far out. Keep everything short and tight, Etc., etc. C'mon, MAN! GTFOH!
One cannot fool those in da know with a lot of circumlocution, bluffing and bytches-up charade-character attacking. You can give that person what you called "simply back their contentions up with logic and reason" and he will either ignore or mock and attack you some more and harder. How crazy does it get? I gave him a video that originated from one of TSS's "The Boxing Channel" correspondents. He didn't catch on to my testing him, and mocked that correspondent as "not keeping it real, as he has repeatly done me. All respect due to Stormcente! But he is doing all the no-nos of boxing's reaching, extending and shooting from too far out. Maybe you haven't notice but 90 percent of the regs are now "Mortcola"-ing the aggressive Stormcentre. I got mad luv for him. But right now he is manic, IMHO, and is being used by some Pachaters and May nut-riders. Maybe they don't have the cojones to interrupt this second-to-none Forum themselves, so they got them a surrogate Storm. Meanwhile back to boxing: Camp Mayweather is in chaos and is falling like Rome. But in hours, not years. Holla!
I don't understand then, if you're in the know, why so many opportunites for you to back up your claims and posts have been ignored? Happy to list all the links to them if you like; they run into the tens . . . and that's just over the last month. Try to rise above your reputation; if you can. Oh, what's the latest pre-ordered Manny losing excuse? I have been away for a while and missed you and all those panicked "banning" responses that effectively themselves also showed, on your part, that you didn't completely read my posts that you shot your load off and responded to. Did someone else mention idiot savant here in this thread? Cause if so, that's a funny line even though there's no way it could ever apply to you. :)