Countdown To Mayweather-Pacquiao: Mayweather's Most Virtuoso Performance

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Love him or loathe him, Floyd Mayweather has been the most complete boxer in the sport for the past decade. I think you could make a cogent argument that as of May 2015, neither he nor is his upcoming opponent Manny Pacquiao occupy the top two p4p spots in boxing today, but it wasn't long ago that they did.

In the ring throughout his career, Mayweather has been so resourceful and confident. You can see during the course of his bouts that he just knows down to his core that he has the needed physical tools, and the aptitude to direct them so he can overcome whatever he's confronted with physically or stylistically by his opponent. He's also physically stronger and punches better than he's usually given credit for. He's never really been man- handled or punched around by the bigger and stronger fighters he has faced and Floyd is also durable. I don't think anyone has ever seen him really gassed or tired during any of his 47 career fights.

Since turning pro after winning a bronze medal at the 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta, he's never officially lost. And during the course of the past 19 years, Floyd has turned in some virtuoso performances. Early in his career he looked terrific in taking apart legitimate guys the likes of Genaro Hernandez and Angel Manfredy. His breakout win came on the night he stopped the late Diego Corrales who was undefeated at the time. He tripped against Jose Luis Castillo (I had Castillo winning 115-111) the first time they met despite winning the decision. He looked scary good against the late Arturo Gatti, and showed a year later that he was a class above the ultra-skilled Zab Judah. In the highest profile bout of his career, at the time, he wasn't impressive against a washed up Oscar De La Hoya winning via split decision. After beating De La Hoya he looked really sharp in his next three fights, beating Ricky Hatton, the undersized Juan Manuel Marquez, and the declining Shane Mosley. Since beating Mosley, Mayweather holds wins over Victor Ortiz, Robert Guerrero, Saul Alvarez and Marcos Maidana twice.

Did I miss anybody? Oh, he beat Miguel Cotto after he stopped Victor Ortiz. How'd I miss that? I didn't. That's the fight I want to examine. If you're one of those guys and think Floyd Mayweather is a once in a generation fighter, all you have to do is watch his fight against Cotto. No, Cotto certainly isn't Roberto Duran, not even close. However, Cotto is without a doubt one of the best fighters of Mayweather's era. When Miguel defended his junior middleweight title against Floyd he entered the bout with a record of 37-2 (30). One loss was controversial because it's widely believed, (but never proven) that his opponent Antonio Margarito entered the fight with loaded gloves. His other loss was at the buzz-saw hands of Mayweather's next opponent, Manny Pacquiao, who fought the best fight of his life that night.

Throughout Mayweather's career, Floyd has been accused of picking his opponents and waiting for the right time to fight certain guys, such as Oscar De La Hoya (2007) and Shane Mosley (2010). Or totally avoiding others when the fights should've been made, such as anticipated bouts with Paul Williams and Antonio Margarito. However, Cotto doesn't belong on either list. He may not have been at his brilliant best when he fought Mayweather, but he was still one of the most formidable opponents around at the time. Cotto cannot be thought of as being a soft touch because he never is.

It really was a thing of beauty to watch Mayweather befuddle Cotto for 10 of the 12 scheduled rounds they fought. For the first five rounds Miguel never could get his footing. At times he wanted to jab and box, but Floyd beat him to the punch and bordered on the verge of embarrassing him a few times. Flustered by that, Cotto tried to do his best impression of “Smokin” Joe Frazier and forced the fight. And when Floyd sensed that, he did what Muhammad Ali often tried to do against Joe – and that was go back to the ropes on his own as if to say, “Oh, this is where you want me and feel you're at your best, okay, how about I go there on my own because I can beat you there just as thoroughly as I can at center ring.” And then Mayweather proceeded to win the exchanges with his back against the ropes, again emulating Ali by doing it on his terms and not Cotto's. With the difference being Frazier had more success than Miguel did because Joe didn't need his feet or hips set in order to punch with authority, the way Miguel does. And that aided Mayweather when it came to standing in Cotto's kitchen and beating him there as well.

If Mayweather ever boxed more intelligently than he did during the first five rounds against Miguel Cotto, I've never seen when. There were times Mayweather purposely allowed Cotto to pin him in a corner or against the ropes. Then he went into his shell and drew Miguel to start unloading big hooks and body shots, leaving the impression he was vulnerable to the head. Which lead to Cotto abandoning the body attack and start throwing to the head exclusively. After missing with 90% of what he threw and still leaning in, Mayweather showed him the double right uppercut. Cotto welcomed that and tried to further engage Mayweather into punching it out with him, however, Floyd turned and abandoned his uppercut and caught Cotto with a double left hook counter and Cotto halted his assault and broke off the exchange. That gave Mayweather time and room to pivot out; exchange goes to Mayweather.

Mayweather also did his feint, take a half step in to draw Cotto in, then countered with the one-two. After Cotto became cognizant of that, he didn't go for the feint, to which Floyd responded by taking the lead with body jabs and single hooks to the head that usually scored. Then when Cotto tried to pressure him, Mayweather tapped him with lead left hooks as he was turning to get out of the way. Oh yes, Floyd was definitely feeling it on this night.

During the last half of the sixth round it was masterful in how Mayweather was able to walk Cotto down and back him up with jabs, feints and a right lead sprinkled in once or twice. And it was interesting to watch Cotto try and shuffle back as if he had an answer and was only going back because he chose to. However, the reality was, he had no answer and was trying to figure something out to do. And there were a lot of patches during the second half of the fight in which Floyd at times stood in the middle of the ring and traded with Miguel, and won many of the exchanges. Cotto never fought a fight where for so much of it he couldn't find his identity. He didn't know if he was better attacking, countering or drawing Floyd to him. And whatever he tried, Mayweather showed him he had an answer for it. Even when he had Mayweather against the ropes, because of Floyd always getting the better leverage along with his quicker hands, he bettered Miguel in his own wheel house. Aside from sporadic flurries and runs by Cotto, Mayweather jogged to an overwhelming decision victory in this fight.

Without question if you ever want to point out one fight in which Mayweather makes his case for being a great boxer, watch his 2012 bout against the very formidable and dangerous Miguel Cotto. The first five rounds are one of the best boxing clinics in history. And Floyd's exhibition of pristine boxing came against one of the best fighters of his era to boot.

How many fighters can you think of who voluntarily let a top tier professional like Miguel Cotto fight their fight, never doubting for a second that they'll know what to do to shut it down? That's exactly what Floyd Mayweather did the night he fought Miguel Cotto.

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-Froggy :

Great read, and the guy who both Pacquiao and Mayweather perhaps had their best fight against, who does Cotto think is going to win on May 2 ? Pacquiao, of course !


-Radam G :

Great read, and the guy who both Pacquiao and Mayweather perhaps had their best fight against, who does Cotto think is going to win on May 2 ? Pacquiao, of course !
Hehehehe! M-Co knows what time it is, and the actuality of the reality. Lil "Pretty Boy" Floyd has to go into dat squared jungle. No trash talk or make-believe rhetoric about his arse being clean and cunning will work. Dude is dirty and conning. On May 2, he has to put up and he is not going to ever shut da puck up. That is until Da Manny breaks his jaw. Fam May's Floydykes and Flomos will be crying their arses off and looking to riot. Sin City is going to pop wide open on May 2 with the Fam May's groupies and racists losing their darn heads. Holla at Big Floyd firing them up with his nonsense of about Iron Mike and Superman Roy not selecting "one of their own" to win. You know da deal.
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s9Z2WI4kSJo. Holla!


-mortcola :

Cotto can be predicted. Pac can?t.


-Radam G :

Money May should start building his ark. Because in 40 days, hard, angry Pac-shots, Pac-missiles and Pac-nukes are going to rain on Money May. Through his vampire facial blood doping mug lights, he sees a raven in his dream nightly crowing "YOU WILL BE UNDEFEATED -- NEVERMORE, BYTCH!!! Hehehe! Holla!


-Radam G :

Money May should start building his ark. Because in 40 days, hard, angry Pac-shots, Pac-missiles and Pac-nukes are going to rain on Money May. Through his vampire facial blood doping, he sees that raven in his dream nightly crowing "YOU WILL BE UNDEFEATED -- NEVERMORE, BYTCH!!! Hehehe! Holla!


-pikon :

Floyd did not fight Cotto, Mosley, Margarito and Paul Williams at their prime...Instead he retired after defeating Hatton..


-Radam G :

Floyd did not fight Cotto, Mosley, Margarito and Paul Williams at their prime...Instead he retired after defeating Hatton..
Lil, slick Floyd fought about two B-$ide pugs in their primes and/or at their best. Holla!


-stormcentre :

ll, and a part of the reason for that was because Pacquaio previously blew (an arguably starved) Cotto out in a much more sensational and conclusive (and possibly controversial) fashion, and that image is easier to digest and analyse than the masterful display Floyd also delivered. Still, whether you favor the stoppage win over Cotto (Pacquaio) - that was achieved by way of risks Floyd doesn't usually take. Or the sheer technical brilliance of Floyd's win involving all the complex boxing maneuvers (that Pacquaio is nowhere near being able to do); the degree of complex and succes
Floyd, technically, schooled Cotto in that fight in ways that were not immediately obvious to all, and a part of the reason for that was because Pacquaio previously blew (an arguably starved) Cotto out in a much more sensational and conclusive (and possibly controversial) fashion, and that image is easier to digest and analyse than the masterful display Floyd also delivered. Still, whether you favor the stoppage win over Cotto (Pacquaio) - that was achieved by way of risks Floyd doesn't usually take. Or the sheer technical brilliance of Floyd's win involving all the complex boxing maneuvers (that Pacquaio is nowhere near being able to do); the degree of complex and successful moves Floyd pulled on a fully laden Cotto was masterful - even if Floyd did get some back in return.


-stormcentre :

Cotto can be predicted. Pac can’t.
Agree with the first part of your comment - but not the second. Still - respect to you. I think Pac's left cross and spin off to the side is predictable, but never capitalized on by most opponents due to Manny's hand/foot speed. I also think Paquaio does that little shuffle (and lowers his shoulders) before he comes in looking for that left cross (when not looking to spin off to the side) sometimes, and I think that is how Marquez read him and tagged him with his own outside punch; right cross. Pacman's shuffle is nowhere near as obvious as how Cotto's movement and footwork betray when he is going to punch; but you can see it. Also, Pacquaio's hands are almost never up and/or going back to protect his face, when he punches. Sure, Pac's combinations and speed allows him to get away with it, and his little short counter/check right hook is a really dangerous weapon. But Floyd is - in my opinion (and that's an opinion that also shared on YouTube by some other fighters that have faced both guys) - easily as fast as Pac with single shots. And Floyd's bread and butter is hanging back behind defence and/or distance and countering guys. Whether that defence holds up against Pac's attacking forays, intensity, and blinding combinations, well, time will tell. Same goes for Pac's chin. Sooner or later that chin is going to get tagged, hard, coming in (or going out) by a fast/accurate Mayweather lead/counter. And, when that happens we're then going to see whether the ghost of Marquez has set up camp and is living inside there. The good thing about all this is that Pacquaio is going to, at some point, make Floyd fight and feel the need to punch with real authority. A fight's going to break out. What do you think Mortcola? Do I have some of this wrong? Happy to hear your take on it. Cheers.


-mortcola :

Hi Storm - Of course, my sentence was overstatement. Pac has his repertoire, and those of us who know boxing can describe it. It is exactly the speed, unorthodoxy, volume, and stun power - the barrage - that makes predicting what is likely to come next a crap shoot. Mayweather is a great analyst with perfect coordination. Pac is a bebop-playing dynamo who pulls phrases out straight from his imagination, even if he has some signature riffs. Mayweather will know much of the make-up of his technique, but he will have more trouble anticipating and controlling it in real time than anyone he has ever fought.


-stormcentre :

Hi Storm - Of course, my sentence was overstatement. Pac has his repertoire, and those of us who know boxing can describe it. It is exactly the speed, unorthodoxy, volume, and stun power - the barrage - that makes predicting what is likely to come next a crap shoot. Mayweather is a great analyst with perfect coordination. Pac is a bebop-playing dynamo who pulls phrases out straight from his imagination, even if he has some signature riffs. Mayweather will know much of the make-up of his technique, but he will have more trouble anticipating and controlling it in real time than anyone he has ever fought.
Yep I thought you were having some fun with words there. Good Pacquaio analogy; bebop-playing dynamo, with signature riffs. I am just waiting for one of TSS regular writers to analyse why Marquez gave Pacman so much trouble, and explain how Floyd can or can't do the same thing. If Floyd can handle the heat that Pacquaio brings without loosing any composure (like he does in most of his fights), and win; it's going to be a big moment for boxing. Same for, if Pac brings it and finds that Floyd's defence and other aspects of his game, aint what it used to be - just imagine how much Roach will be screaming for Manny to knock Floyd out if that realization happens midway through the fight.


-stormcentre :

Hi Storm - Of course, my sentence was overstatement. Pac has his repertoire, and those of us who know boxing can describe it. It is exactly the speed, unorthodoxy, volume, and stun power - the barrage - that makes predicting what is likely to come next a crap shoot. Mayweather is a great analyst with perfect coordination. Pac is a bebop-playing dynamo who pulls phrases out straight from his imagination, even if he has some signature riffs. Mayweather will know much of the make-up of his technique, but he will have more trouble anticipating and controlling it in real time than anyone he has ever fought.
Yep I thought you were having some fun with words there. Good Pacquaio analogy; bebop-playing dynamo, with signature riffs. I am just waiting for one of TSS regular writers to analyse why Marquez gave Pacman so much trouble, and explain how Floyd can or can't do the same thing. If Floyd can handle the heat that Pacquaio brings without loosing any composure (like he does in most of his fights), and win; it's going to be a big moment for boxing. Same for, if Pac brings it and finds that Floyd's defence and other aspects of his game, aint what it used to be - just imagine how much Roach will be screaming for Manny to knock Floyd out if that realization happens midway through the fight.


-brownsugar :

Hi Storm - Of course, my sentence was overstatement. Pac has his repertoire, and those of us who know boxing can describe it. It is exactly the speed, unorthodoxy, volume, and stun power - the barrage - that makes predicting what is likely to come next a crap shoot. Mayweather is a great analyst with perfect coordination. Pac is a bebop-playing dynamo who pulls phrases out straight from his imagination, even if he has some signature riffs. Mayweather will know much of the make-up of his technique, but he will have more trouble anticipating and controlling it in real time than anyone he has ever fought.
So true ....i havent been able to see through the murky fog of my crystal ball. It developed a crack the last time i tried. Pac's size and the hyper-frequency of his attack seems to obliterate bigger guys who cant seem to prevent Pac from slipping through the holes in their larger geometry... but what happened to Pac in every fight against the slower, more basic, yet hall of fame worthy Marquez where Pac looks like just another guy? Marquez matches Pac in nearly every critria physically except speed yet Pac had to revert back to the basics every time against him. Mayweather being smaller than most of Pac's challengers may be able to benefit by the same physical circumstances which seemed to established an equalizing effect with Marquez. I dont know... maybe Mayweather figures out a way to walk him down if he can survive the initial storm/onslaught. Or can Mayweather summon up the be-first mentality of his youth instead of the lay- back-and-wait-for-it method of compromise that he's employed a lot in recent fights. If Floyd shows up as prepared as he was against Canelo ....we will have a classic on our hands. I mean.... He purchased a $4000 gold ink pen to use to sign the contract with(which he recorded)...and promptly retired the pen after its historically significant use... If he wins the pen will be worth $4million in ten years. Doesnt sound like a lack of confidence to me. Styles so radically different..and both guys built for mobility and speed. Leaves me grasping at straws for now.


-brownsugar :

I guess i was thinking the same thing Storm ...i didnt see your thoughts about Marquez before posting but its a valid question.


-stormcentre :

So true ....i havent been able to see through the murky fog of my crystal ball. It developed a crack the last time i tried. Pac's size and the hyper-frequency of his attack seems to obliterate bigger guys who cant seem to prevent Pac from slipping through the holes in their larger geometry... but what happened to Pac in every fight against the slower, more basic, yet hall of fame worthy Marquez where Pac looks like just another guy? Marquez matches Pac in nearly every critria physically except speed yet Pac had to revert back to the basics every time against him. Mayweather being smaller than most of Pac's challengers may be able to benefit by the same physical circumstances which seemed to established an equalizing effect with Marquez. I dont know... maybe Mayweather figures out a way to walk him down if he can survive the initial storm/onslaught. Or can Mayweather summon up the be-first mentality of his youth instead of the lay- back-and-wait-for-it method of compromise that he's employed a lot in recent fights. If Floyd shows up as prepared as he was against Canelo ....we will have a classic on our hands. I mean.... He purchased a $4000 gold ink pen to use to sign the contract with(which he recorded)...and promptly retired the pen after its historically significant use... If he wins the pen will be worth $4million in ten years. Doesnt sound like a lack of confidence to me. Styles so radically different..and both guys built for mobility and speed. Leaves me grasping at straws for now.
I think Manny is going to run into a lot of left and right hands coming in, and getting out. I'm not saying he won't land on Floyd. But Floyd is going to know that Pacquaio will have been prepared to try and counter Floyd's usual counter-attack moves, and will adjust accordingly; meaning that Pac will have to raise the intensity even more - both bringing and taking more risks. More than the Cotto fight (both guys had), the big hurdle I have when trying to make the fight out as a sure win for Pacquaio is how much trouble Marquez gave Manny over 4 fights, and how easily (admittedly, a heavier) Floyd played with Juan. Also, Marquez did really well against, and caught Pac (a lot) because (amongst several reasons) he is a great counterpuncher. Floyd, isn't bad at that game either. Plus, he's not only way faster and stronger than Marquez - but he's also got a defence to go back to; when required.


-stormcentre :

I guess i was thinking the same thing Storm ...i didnt see your thoughts about Marquez before posting but its a valid question.
Yep - thought as much. ;)


-Radam G :

Wow! The Money Team and Pops Joy May are getting straight-up nasty. I might put that video up. But Imma be caution for a bit. Big Floyd's dumb arse could possibly end up in da slamma' for making terroristic and hate threats. You've already heard his going off about Afro AmerKanos not being right and fateful to their own in an above video that I down loaded. This video that I'm downloading has shaken Big Floyd up. Dude and some of the Lil Floyd's nut riders are hollering about doing dirt naps to ______ _______ "if they keep messin' with (his) son." PJM is BOLD! He is telling blacks that they better be for Lil Floyd. [Like I said. I might download that video at a later day, but I don't want to risk Big Floyd not being in his son's corner when Da Manny drops Lil Floyd the way "Slicky Ricky" -- the nickname that PJM gave Ricky Hatton -- was dropped.] In the meantime:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zxMP2ggRzFs As I said from the jump. This bout between Da Manny and Lil Floyd is the most ethnic-charged scrap on the U.S. mainland since "Unforgivable Blackness" Jack Johnson and "White Hope" James Jeffries. That was then the richest grossing scrap ever. All you politically correct quiet-with-it hypocrites and jitter-crites don't act like all is copacetic and hunky-dory? Pinoy kids are already being picked at by bullying out-of-group children. And I'm not making this syet up. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Wow! The Money Team and Pops Joy May are getting straight-up nasty. I might put that video up. But Imma be caution for a bit. Big Floyd's dumb arse could possibly end up in da slamma' for making terroristic and hate threats. You've already heard his going off about Afro AmerKanos not being right and fateful to their own in an above video that I down loaded. This video that I'm downloading has shaken Big Floyd up. Dude and some of the Lil Floyd's nut riders are hollering about doing dirt naps to ______ _______ "if they keep messin' with (his) son." PJM is BOLD! He is telling blacks that they better be for Lil Floyd. [Like I said. I might download that video at a later day, but I don't want to risk Big Floyd not being in his son's corner when Da Manny drops Lil Floyd the way "Slicky Ricky" -- the nickname that PJM gave Ricky Hatton -- was dropped.] In the meantime:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zxMP2ggRzFs As I said from the jump. This bout between Da Manny and Lil Floyd is the most ethnic-charged scrap on the U.S. mainland since "Unforgivable Blackness" Jack Johnson and "White Hope" James Jeffries. That was then the richest grossing scrap ever. All you politically correct quiet-with-it hypocrites and jitter-crites don't act like all is copacetic and hunky-dory? Pinoy kids are already being picked at by bullying out-of-group children. And I'm not making this syet up. Holla!
Have you taken your medication today? Cause I'm taking mine and (other than you) I don't even have a prescription. :) Gotta laugh.


-brownsugar :

Wow! The Money Team and Pops Joy May are getting straight-up nasty. I might put that video up. But Imma be caution for a bit. Big Floyd's dumb arse could possibly end up in da slamma' for making terroristic and hate threats. You've already heard his going off about Afro AmerKanos not being right and fateful to their own in an above video that I down loaded. This video that I'm downloading has shaken Big Floyd up. Dude and some of the Lil Floyd's nut riders are hollering about doing dirt naps to ______ _______ "if they keep messin' with (his) son." PJM is BOLD! He is telling blacks that they better be for Lil Floyd. [Like I said. I might download that video at a later day, but I don't want to risk Big Floyd not being in his son's corner when Da Manny drops Lil Floyd the way "Slicky Ricky" -- the nickname that PJM gave Ricky Hatton -- was dropped.] In the meantime:
->https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zxMP2ggRzFs As I said from the jump. This bout between Da Manny and Lil Floyd is the most ethnic-charged scrap on the U.S. mainland since "Unforgivable Blackness" Jack Johnson and "White Hope" James Jeffries. That was then the richest grossing scrap ever. All you politically correct quiet-with-it hypocrites and jitter-crites don't act like all is copacetic and hunky-dory? Pinoy kids are already being picked at by bullying out-of-group children. And I'm not making this syet up. Holla!
Watching this guy giving opinions about old Mayweather vids is about as enlightening as watching those old OJ murder trial interviews provided daily when reporters would leave the courtroom and corner somebody at the busstop after court convened to ask them if they thought OJ was guilty on not of murder..... The wide ranging responses had zero impact on the discovery or non discovery of the truth. It was simply just an opinion. This guy ... This youtube boxing guy giving his personal opinion for the world to see is just one of thousands of youtube preachers giving free lip service to promote their stilted pet peaves and do little to enrich fans seeking anything concrete or substantial in the world of boxing. I have dozens of boxing feeds on my facebook page where fans dump their unfiltered hate for Mayweather daily. Many of these "boxing" fans release their most profound racial bigotry daily but that is what america is ...a melting pot of the good the bad and the ugly....nothing has changed. I see this youtube guy all the time and usually bi-pass his less than relevent views in an attempt to add quality time to my browsing...but to each his own.


-stormcentre :

Or . . to put it another way . . "Mr. YouTube providing next to useless information on a regular basis", seems to have missed the "QA" or "quality assurance" class, when he completed his 5-day "how to make a YouTube video and impress your friends in 3 minutes" course. It's got so bad that even he knows I close the tab down as soon as I see it's him. I know this because he employs deception and deliberately titles some of his videos with a name as close as possible to the "real "full-fight footage of a bout of my (web-searching) interest; which is the only way I ever accidentally stumble across him and then have the unrestrained pleasure and satisfaction of shutting him down. :)


-stormcentre :

Or . . to put it another way . . ""Mr. YouTube providing next to useless information on a regular basis"", seems to have missed the "QA" or "quality assurance" class, when he completed his 5-day ""how to make a YouTube video and impress your friends in 3 minutes"" course. It's got so bad that even he knows I close the tab down as soon as I see it's him. I know this because he employs deception and deliberately titles some of his videos with a name as close as possible to the "real "full-fight footage of a bout of my (web-searching) interest; which is the only way I ever accidentally stumble across him and then have the unrestrained pleasure and satisfaction of shutting him down. :)


-Radam G :

Watching this guy giving opinions about old Mayweather vids is about as enlightening as watching those old OJ murder trial interviews provided daily when reporters would leave the courtroom and corner somebody at the busstop after court convened to ask them if they thought OJ was guilty on not of murder..... The wide ranging responses had zero impact on the discovery or non discovery of the truth. It was simply just an opinion. This guy ... This youtube boxing guy giving his personal opinion for the world to see is just one of thousands of youtube preachers giving free lip service to promote their stilted pet peaves and do little to enrich fans seeking anything concrete or substantial in the world of boxing. I have dozens of boxing feeds on my facebook page where fans dump their unfiltered hate for Mayweather daily. Many of these "boxing" fans release their most profound racial bigotry daily but that is what america is ...a melting pot of the good the bad and the ugly....nothing has changed. I see this youtube guy all the time and usually bi-pass his less than relevent views in an attempt to add quality time to my browsing...but to each his own.
He is legit. Not full of syet. He rolls with the big dawgs of info. You are from the radio and newspap generation. So keep passing this social-media dude by. He kills rhetoric of the squirrels and weasels of da game. I recall before we got this new Universe of TSS, radio and new newspapers followers were calling me a liar and a phony for spitting about social-media hook ups who were at every fight with me. Those back-in-the-woods readers back then between 2006 and 2010 even hammered me for having and claiming to have a Blackberry and Apple iPhone. How times have changed. But no matter how much they change, there are beliefs by the old guards that "nothing has changed." You cannot see it because you are blindsided by nostalgia and Baby boom control. Changes are indeed with us. This why Big Floyd's dumb arse was not allowed to talked at the press conference. The Money Team and tsAH have persons baby setting his arse from getting in trouble. Holla at how an off-camera person quiet him down. Holla!


-brownsugar :

He is legit. Not full of syet. He rolls with the big dawgs of info. You are from the radio and newspap generation. So keep passing this social-media dude by. He kills rhetoric of the squirrels and weasels of da game. I recall before we got this new Universe of TSS, radio and new newspapers followers were calling me a liar and a phony for spitting about social-media hook ups who were at every fight with me. Those back-in-the-woods readers back then between 2006 and 2010 even hammered me for having and claiming to have a Blackberry and Apple iPhone. How times have changed. But no matter how much they change, there are beliefs by the old guards that "nothing has changed." You cannot see it because you are blindsided by nostalgia and Baby boom control. Changes are indeed with us. This why Big Floyd's dumb arse was not allowed to talked at the press conference. The Money Team and tsAH have persons baby setting his arse from getting in trouble. Holla at how an off-camera person quiet him down. Holla!
Actually radio and newspapers are a valid medium for distributing news.... Although i personally have not had a news paper delivered to me in over 25 years. As far as me being an old fogey who used to walk 5 miles one way to school in 3 feet of snow... And get up at 4am in the morning to milk cows and hunt deer for breakfast before the sun came up ....well there may be a little truth to that...and thanks to my physically intensive youth i still dont need viagra. But there's something positive to say about buying a USA Today during your lunch break if you dont have anyone to chat with...although i dont have that problem these days since i work online from a pc in my own home. There was one guy ...a lawyer, who worked out of vegas i believe (cant think of his name....could have been Dwyer) who used to always say "Take my predictions with a grain of salt because im just a stranger on the internet" after giving his advise... He provided good substantive insight during a riveting and highly detailed presentation that delved into the deep nuances of the fight game. I didnt always agree with his picks but the guy had a decent track record and good logic to back up his choices.. Honestly id rather hear what you had to say when you're in the mood to speak rationally than this guy you dredged up from the backwaters of youtube. Now excuse me i think i have to go churn some butter or something.


-Radam G :

Actually radio and newspapers are a valid medium for distributing news.... Although i personally have not had a news paper delivered to me in over 25 years. As far as me being an old fogey who used to walk 5 miles one way to school in 3 feet of snow... And get up at 4am in the morning to milk cows and hunt deer for breakfast before the sun came up ....well there may be a little truth to that...and thanks to my physically intensive youth i still dont need viagra. But there's something positive to say about buying a USA Today during your lunch break if you dont have anyone to chat with...although i dont have that problem these days since i work online from a pc in my own home. There was one guy ...a lawyer, who worked out of vegas i believe (cant think of his name....could have been Dwyer) who used to always say "Take my predictions with a grain of salt because im just a stranger on the internet" after giving his advise... He provided good substantive insight during a riveting and highly detailed presentation that delved into the deep nuances of the fight game. I didnt always agree with his picks but the guy had a decent track record and good logic to back up his choices.. Honestly id rather hear what you had to say when you're in the mood to speak rationally than this guy you dredged up from the backwaters of youtube. Now excuse me i think i have to go churn some butter or something.
Hehe! Holla!


-amayseng :

Corrales was a phenomenal display tho Diego was dry and had to struggle to make weight. JMM was was a white wash tho jmm was coming up 2 classes and Floyd didn't make weight. Cotto was broken yet won 5 rounds. DLH was old and part time fighter. Floyd's best win is JLC 2 seeing as he LOST the first fight and came back won won the second.


-Radam G :

Corrales was a phenomenal display tho Diego was dry and had to struggle to make weight. JMM was was a white wash tho jmm was coming up 2 classes and Floyd didn't make weight. Cotto was broken yet won 5 rounds. DLH was old and part time fighter. Floyd's best win is JLC 2 seeing as he LOST the first fight and came back won won the second.
Amen! And it is a darn shame that people lose their minds when one posts the actuality of the reality about Lil Floyd. His so-labelled Mayvinci Code has already been broken by JLC. Holla!


-mortcola :

There's a funny styles make fights logic to why Pac might do better against Mayweather than against Marquez. Marquez could never really reach Mayweather. Mayweather never won by engaging, but only by forcing Marquez to always be the aggressor, which he is not great at. Marquez's technique never allowed him to compensate for the size differential at the same time as the stylistic mismatch. There is no size problem for Marquez against Pacquiao, and he always counterpunched well against Pac because he stayed in the mix, using subtle knowledge of Pac's moves from an inside perspective, and was able to reach him. let's not forget that except for the knockdown and hail-Mary KO punch, Pac was dominating Marquez more thoroughly in the last fight than in any of the previous ones - he was seconds away from a KO, I believe, and got reckless and literally served up an easy homer for Marquez by coming straight in with a habitual shuffle that Marquez had down pat. Against Mayweather, Pac faces a taller opponent who is not likely to stay in the mix, and if he does, he is working in his own weakest zone; Mayweather will also have to crush more info about Pac's incoming angles than he has ever had to in figuring out and neutralizing conventional attackers; also, Pac has no problem against taller opponents, using a deceptive ability to launch power shots in an unorthodox manner to compensate for the distance issue. Pac does what Maidana does, but with a zillion more variations and very much faster, and Maidana, slow, one dimensional but offbeat and strong, did more damage against Money than nearly anyone. So, more than in most comparisons, the A beats B, B beat C (once, really, but never dominated) therefore A must destroy C logic fails. Am I missing something?


-michaelabii :

Nice article though I have a slightly different take on this. I also think this was a virtuoso performance by Floyd but moreso because this was the more mature Floyd who now realizes he cannot or does not have to move on his feet for 12 rounds like he did against Diego Corales. This is the Floyd who now realizes he can overcome size, bulk and considerable talent by relying on smarts and ring acumen and in this regard Mayweather has no peer. I have been a student of the sweet science since the early 70s and I have not - I repeat - I have not come across a fighter with the ring acumen of Floyd Mayweather Junior. Now, thats a bold statement coming from a guy who witnessed the eras of Sugar Ray Leonard, Wilfred Benitez, Duran, e.t.c. Now Duran comes close - his ring acumen was vastly underrated. You could hardly hit Duran clean in his prime due to his underrated prowess at slipping punches and even when he got older he relied more on his ring smarts (watch his fights with Davey Moore, Iran Barkley and Marvin Hagler). I have deliberately left Ray Leonard out because he remains my favorite fighter of the eighties (a personal preference). Mayweather is by far however the more technically all round skilled fighter I have to admit. My thinking has started to shift after watching Mayweathers fight against JMM and Pacmans fights against the same common opponent. Pacman can be out boxed by a smart boxer. He has gotten better technically but his main attribute is his speed and movement and the angles he punches from. Lets not forget his incredible stamina. JMM is a lesser version of Floyd - meaning Pac will not outbox Floyd. Nor will he overwhelm him for 12 rounds due to Mayweathers stamina and underrated strength. The more I look at it I foresee a unanimous decision win for Floyd with PacMan winning some early and middle rounds by sheer volume but mostly catching air once Floyd gets his timing of Pacmans speed which will happen mid fight. My earlier thinking was Pacman winning by majority decision. I like PacMan and I truly believe he is a great fighter but he is coming up against a fighter whose ring saavy is only eclipsed by the excesses of his personal life.


-Radam G :

There's a funny styles make fights logic to why Pac might do better against Mayweather than against Marquez. Marinanimatequez could never really reach Mayweather. Mayweather never won by engaging, but only by forcing Marquez to always be the aggressor, which he is not great at. Marquez's technique never allowed him to compensate for the size differential at the same time as the stylistic mismatch. There is no size problem for Marquez against Pacquiao, and he always counterpunched well against Pac because he stayed in the mix, using subtle knowledge of Pac's moves from an inside perspective, and was able to reach him. let's not forget that except for the knockdown and hail-Mary KO punch, Pac was dominating Marquez more thoroughly in the last fight than in any of the previous ones - he was seconds away from a KO, I believe, and got reckless and literally served up an easy homer for Marquez by coming straight in with a habitual shuffle that Marquez had down pat. Against Mayweather, Pac faces a taller opponent who is not likely to stay in the mix, and if he does, he is working in his own weakest zone; Mayweather will also have to crush more info about Pac's incoming angles than he has ever had to in figuring out and neutralizing conventional attackers; also, Pac has no problem against taller opponents, using a deceptive ability to launch power shots in an unorthodox manner to compensate for the distance issue. Pac does what Maidana does, but with a zillion more variations and very much faster, and Maidana, slow, one dimensional but offbeat and strong, did more damage against Money than nearly anyone. So, more than in most comparisons, the A beats B, B beat C (once, really, but never dominated) therefore A must destroy C logic fails. Am I missing something?
o No! You are not missing anything. And you will get no sarcasm and criticism for noting what I have noted umpteen times. Money May will not come close to bytch checking Da Manny, as Money May was able to do against two weight-division-lower Marquez. The dynamics that Money May is dealing with against Da Manny are too complicated and stealth. Money May will have delayed feelings of what shots hit him, but he will seldom see from what angles they are coming. Holla!


-Skibbz :

Hi Storm - Of course, my sentence was overstatement. Pac has his repertoire, and those of us who know boxing can describe it. It is exactly the speed, unorthodoxy, volume, and stun power - the barrage - that makes predicting what is likely to come next a crap shoot. Mayweather is a great analyst with perfect coordination. Pac is a bebop-playing dynamo who pulls phrases out straight from his imagination, even if he has some signature riffs. Mayweather will know much of the make-up of his technique, but he will have more trouble anticipating and controlling it in real time than anyone he has ever fought.
You're right in what you say Mort and whilst you conclude that if Floyd anticipates and attempts to control Pacquiao he will find problems he's never faced, I think that's exactly why should not do it. To beat Pac in my opinion, especially with Floyd's attributes, you don't aim to anticipate and control but to strike first and aim to subdue. You can't let him come and unload his torrent of blows as from the 8 thrown one or two fill find a home at least. To invite him to make the first move is to give him a two step head start. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing that you should compare punching power with mule but to strike first, strike often and frustrate the dynamo one round at a time. I think Floyd should also work on overpowering Pacquiao to the floor or through the ropes. He's gotten away with so much in all of his recent fights that I can't see him getting a point deducation if he kneed Pacquiao in the face. . Also I think a question over Floyd's foot speed is crucial.. But Floyd is so smart he pivots you out of position and uses half steps to completely get you out of position.


-Radam G :

Wow! I'm with riding Skip. There will be no controversy because Lil Floyd is going down and out. For a Mayweather to be knocked out has always been destiny. Lil Floyd won't escape it unless he is disqualified or pull out of the bout. Talking heads are really getting comical now.
->HTTPS://m.youtube.com/watch?v=im6yEdZZW2Y. Holla!


-flackoguapo :

Actually radio and newspapers are a valid medium for distributing news.... Although i personally have not had a news paper delivered to me in over 25 years. As far as me being an old fogey who used to walk 5 miles one way to school in 3 feet of snow... And get up at 4am in the morning to milk cows and hunt deer for breakfast before the sun came up ....well there may be a little truth to that...and thanks to my physically intensive youth i still dont need viagra. But there's something positive to say about buying a USA Today during your lunch break if you dont have anyone to chat with...although i dont have that problem these days since i work online from a pc in my own home. There was one guy ...a lawyer, who worked out of vegas i believe (cant think of his name....could have been Dwyer) who used to always say "Take my predictions with a grain of salt because im just a stranger on the internet" after giving his advise... He provided good substantive insight during a riveting and highly detailed presentation that delved into the deep nuances of the fight game. I didnt always agree with his picks but the guy had a decent track record and good logic to back up his choices.. Honestly id rather hear what you had to say when you're in the mood to speak rationally than this guy you dredged up from the backwaters of youtube. Now excuse me i think i have to go churn some butter or something.
Great post B suge! seems like it is forgotten that WE are all strangers on the internet! a girl telling me she "usually doesn't do this" is more plausible than the shieyt people say online. We are only "personas" on here


-flackoguapo :

Hi Storm - Of course, my sentence was overstatement. Pac has his repertoire, and those of us who know boxing can describe it. It is exactly the speed, unorthodoxy, volume, and stun power - the barrage - that makes predicting what is likely to come next a crap shoot. Mayweather is a great analyst with perfect coordination. Pac is a bebop-playing dynamo who pulls phrases out straight from his imagination, even if he has some signature riffs. Mayweather will know much of the make-up of his technique, but he will have more trouble anticipating and controlling it in real time than anyone he has ever fought.
I really enjoyed this post Mortcola. One of my favorite descriptions of Pacquiao was made by trainer Nacho Beristein. He said something to the extent of " when all that is naturalness created and pooped Pacquaio out, he was the fighter he is today". haha Pacquaios style is creative, unique and somewhat instinctual.


-Radam G :

Great post B suge! seems like it is forgotten that WE are all strangers on the internet! a girl telling me she "usually doesn't do this" is more plausible than the shieyt people say online. We are only "personas" on here
Actually we are not all strangers on the internet. We start off that way. Then we meet up. Just as people meet in social places and in college in actual physical life. I've met and I have seen umpteen people that I first established contact with on the internet. Also known as cyberspace life. I'm still counting the list of TSS readers and writers here whom I have run into all over the world. And I will be seeing a whole lot more of them at the Money May-Da Manny Bout in $?n City. Matter of fact, the TSS reader SouthPaul has invited B-Sug to room with me -- I mean him. It goes to show you that assumptions can be wrong. You never know what you don't know. Holla!


-mortcola :

I really enjoyed this post Mortcola. One of my favorite descriptions of Pacquiao was made by trainer Nacho Beristein. He said something to the extent of " when all that is naturalness created and pooped Pacquaio out, he was the fighter he is today". haha Pacquaios style is creative, unique and somewhat instinctual.
I enjoyed writing it! Same to you. Fights like this and intelligent commentary like we have makes me enjoy thinking about this glorious sport


-stormcentre :

Actually we are not all strangers on the internet. We start off that way. Then we meet up. Just as people meet in social places and in college in actual physical life. I've met and I have seen umpteen people that I first established contact with on the internet. Also known as cyberspace life. I'm still counting the list of TSS readers and writers here whom I have run into all over the world. And I will be seeing a whole lot more of them at the Money May-Da Manny Bout in $?n City. Matter of fact, the TSS reader SouthPaul has invited B-Sug to room with me -- I mean him. It goes to show you that assumptions can be wrong. You never know what you don't know. Holla!
Hey . . old sparring partner from way back. How's that lefty stance going? Told ya it was no good against a guy that won't allow you to be a counterpuncher. :) How's the ribs, cheekbone and jawline; as I been tagging you a bit lately and noticed you were marking up a bit. Although - to be fair - you hadn't (quite) bytch screamed. But you were looking like it was getting close MMMRG. "Just like some say about Money May" (didya like that jingle?); those RG legs looking "shot". You not movin like you should, an you need to be doin sumfing bout that if you still looking to move up and take a shot at a title. And that midsection . . whoa . . starting to look like a "pot". Just letting you know man. Cause, if you want to stop those outside rights from dropping in on ya for a while; you gotta keep that right hand up my friend, watch out for the shots that come in when you're going backwards, don't back up in a straight line, and lay of the EPO and vampire facials. OK? 4 or 5 litres of blood-dope straight through your eyes and face, really aint no good for the vision and/or seein shots coming in. Keep keeping it real. Otherwise my Oxy use is going to go through the roof with the headaches that result from your bizarre logic. :)