Be Aware, Mayweather-Pacquiao Will Not Look Like Gatti-Ward 1

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I'm worried, my friends.

I am worried that we are in a place where we are setting ourselves up to over-promise, and under-deliver. The Fight, I'm talking about.

On May 2, we are going to get a couple million folks who really never watch boxing, maybe never have, or maybe last did when Tyson was still the Baddest Man on the Planet, instead of a cartoon character. (Literally, he has his own cartoon, I'm not busting chops!)

And many of those folks will have been lured in by the hype. They are hearing the trumpets blaring, and seeing snippets of the most active that Floyd Mayweather Jr and Manny Pacquiao can be, and they are expecting to be entertained by two pugilistic hurricanes, who'll blow into Vegas and level their surroundings i.e. each other, and leave us to marvel at the grandeur and gore left in their wake.

Only, here's the thing. Mayweather, especially, is no hurricane. He's patient, and cerebral in the ring. He's always the eye of the hurricane, calm and centered. His flurries are pretty rare and intermittently placed. He's no Goldman Sachs sort…the guy rarely trades, let alone gets into a high frequency trading mode. So those expecting Mike Tyson Jr. on their screen or in that ring at the MGM on May 2 are bound to be disappointed. I'm here to temper expectations a bit, capisce?

Most of us are expecting Pacquiao to push the issue. Freddie Roach told us he wants to take Floyd out of his comfort zone. Rush him, bull him, flurry on him, catch him on the ropes when he's resting and baste him. We shall see some of that…but we will also see a cerebral and patient side of Pacman. Floyd makes you pay when you're off balance, or after you miss, so Roach will want Manny to have his antennae up for three minutes of every round, not rush himself, and flurry and miss, and get countered as Juan Manuel Marquez did in their 2012 fight. So, in other words, there could be more minutes of more rounds than you might expect in which the two men are NOT punching.

How to put this? Friends, Gatti-Ward I V.2015 this will not be…

I spoke to Roach about the expectations that might be dashed from non fight fans thinking they will be watching a Rocky movie sort of choreograph. He chimed in with an anecdote…In 2012, he said, some lucky fans won a contest and their prize was attending the Floyd Mayweather vs. Robert Guerrero fight. “They gave us s—y seats, and then the best part of the whole show was the four Asian guys in front of us, all dressed alike, with their heads turned to the right, all asleep during the fight!”

The trainer promises that his guy will be there to bring it, even if Floyd is in “fight smarter, not harder” mode.

“Manny is coming to fight,” Roach told me. “This fight is for boxing purists. And Mayweather is a very good boxer, but yes, he's not the most exciting guy. He's very crafty. We have a real guy in front of us, and whoever pulls off the game plan will win.”

So, you all might want to spread the word and get into a “under promise so the fight over-delivers” messaging mode, my friends. Just remember, a Gatti-Ward 1 sort of rumble, this will not be…

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-Froggy :

Good article and I think unfortunately I think correct ! But doesn't Floyd always say he likes to give the fans what they want ? That's what I expect him to say after the fight when Manny forces him to get busier than usual if he wants to win !


-Brad :

I've very happy boxing will grab the sports spotlight for a change, but I'm already growing tired of hearing about this being the most significant fight since Ali-Frazier. It's not. When I was in high school everyone knew Sugar Ray Leonard. We all watched him in the 1976 Olympics. His first pro fight was on national tv. After beating Benitez for the welterweight title he was doing commercials for 7-Up, Franklin Sporting Goods and Ford Trucks (with Larry Holmes). In 1979, when Holmes fought Shavers with Sugar Ray Leonard and Roberto Duran fighting on undercards, ABC televised that night of fights and got 55 million viewers. So when he took on Roberto Duran in 1980, it was a fight more significant than May-Pac could ever hope to be. In New York alone every closed circuit location sold out. 25,000 paid $20 (that's $60 in today world)a piece to sit at Shea Stadium and watch it. MSG sold out. In my city Detroit, all the theaters that had sold out. I had several friends that waited too long and couldn't buy a ticket.If May-Pac could only be viewed at a closed circuit location, at $60 a person, how many people do you think go?


-Froggy :

I've very happy boxing will grab the sports spotlight for a change, but I'm already growing tired of hearing about this being the most significant fight since Ali-Frazier. It's not. When I was in high school everyone knew Sugar Ray Leonard. We all watched him in the 1976 Olympics. His first pro fight was on national tv. After beating Benitez for the welterweight title he was doing commercials for 7-Up, Franklin Sporting Goods and Ford Trucks (with Larry Holmes). In 1979, when Holmes fought Shavers with Sugar Ray Leonard and Roberto Duran fighting on undercards, ABC televised that night of fights and got 55 million viewers. So when he took on Roberto Duran in 1980, it was a fight more significant than May-Pac could ever hope to be. In New York alone every closed circuit location sold out. 25,000 paid $20 (that's $60 in today world)a piece to sit at Shea Stadium and watch it. MSG sold out. In my city Detroit, all the theaters that had sold out. I had several friends that waited too long and couldn't buy a ticket.If May-Pac could only be viewed at a closed circuit location, at $60 a person, how many people do you think go?
I remember watching Leonards first pro fight, I think it was against Luis "the bull" Vega, and he was paid $40,000.00 for that bout ! I remember watching the Leonard - Benitez fight live on regular TV, also, although I don't think the fight should have been stopped with only 6 seconds left ! Hagler - Antefermo was on the undercard, wow how times have changed, but the future looks bright !


-Domenic :

I've very happy boxing will grab the sports spotlight for a change, but I'm already growing tired of hearing about this being the most significant fight since Ali-Frazier. It's not. When I was in high school everyone knew Sugar Ray Leonard. We all watched him in the 1976 Olympics. His first pro fight was on national tv. After beating Benitez for the welterweight title he was doing commercials for 7-Up, Franklin Sporting Goods and Ford Trucks (with Larry Holmes). In 1979, when Holmes fought Shavers with Sugar Ray Leonard and Roberto Duran fighting on undercards, ABC televised that night of fights and got 55 million viewers. So when he took on Roberto Duran in 1980, it was a fight more significant than May-Pac could ever hope to be. In New York alone every closed circuit location sold out. 25,000 paid $20 (that's $60 in today world)a piece to sit at Shea Stadium and watch it. MSG sold out. In my city Detroit, all the theaters that had sold out. I had several friends that waited too long and couldn't buy a ticket.If May-Pac could only be viewed at a closed circuit location, at $60 a person, how many people do you think go?
Well said Brad. Trinidad-De La Hoya was bigger than this. Both were in their prime, undefeated, and it transcended boxing. This one's big because it's happening NOW, and of course it's unique in how long it took to make, the pent up frustration of the public, etc. All the reasons anyone that visits TSS already knows. But it definitely stands alone. Mike's right, the odds of this being Gatti-Ward 1 are slim to none. Or Gatti-Ward 2, or 3. I think we'll see something more akin to Trinidad-De La Hoya. A good scrap, memorable for the event, and not for the fight, at least in a positive way (Oscar ran the last third of the fight rather than close the show). Remember, this thing will cost $100. The most expensive PPV ever. Including inflation. So how does boxing's brass, the guys in charge of this event, ensure the general public leaves satisfied, without buyer's remorse? Easy. A GREAT undercard. They ought to have Golovkin as the main undercard fight. Against anyone. Who cares. It showcases Golovkin. Wilder. Dredge up Briggs or Tarver and get them on the card to fight DW for the WBC alphabet strap. The exposure is HUGE. But if they throw 3 minimumweight no-name fights at us, designed only to delay the broadcast, when/if the main event fails to meet this LOFTY expectation, the public will leave angry and bitter. It's a gigantic mistake they can avoid by just exercising some emotional intelligence here. Side note. The Kentucky Derby runs 5/2. It's an EPIC sports day. Kentucky Derby 2015 & Mayweather-Pacquiao. I really hope they get it right.


-ultimoshogun :

I doubt anyone expected this fight to look like Gatti/Ward. I think this fight may look like Pac/Marquez 1 the first few rounds, sans the knockdowns. Manny will look good, land a few good shots while Floyd assimilates Pacman..Then he'll adjust and do what Marquez did, only much more effective.


-brownsugar :

This fight.... Rather this event, could possibly the biggest event ever in boxing. The promotors still have to do their job. Sure the product sells itself but you have to remind the American audience due to it's short attention span. The fight isnt in competition with Ali, Duran, Leonard, Tyson or anyone else. This about who's the best today. And despite the fact that both boxers may not be at their absolute best, both Floyd and Pac are still better than the rest of the division. I mean its not like Leonard and Hearns fighting for the third time at two or three weight classes above welterweight. Its more like Leonard vs Hagler at middleweight. Hagler was the undisisputed champ and Leonard was returning after a two year hiatus. He wasnt the same fighter he used to be but he still had enough left to overthrow one of the best middleweights in history. The fight was more strategic than punishing ..... But fans got to see who was the best in a real life fantasy matchup. The result was more important than the action and that's what fans remember. Leonard beat the baddest middleweight on the planet. This is what Pac vs Floyd is about.... Everybody wants to know whose the best... Personally I'm not going to the fight expecting to be overwhelmingly entertained... The party associated with the fight will be the entertainment... I just want to know who's the best and how the fight was won. Ward vs Gatti be damned....(not literally) but neither of those names have anything to do with this discussion because neither was ever considered to be the best over multiple decades like Floyd and Pac. This is now, this is today and its what everybody wants to know. The memories of the ghosts of boxing past will be more appropriate after the enlightenment of hindsight kicks in when the fight is over. They really ought to rethink that $100 price tag however...that could be a huge mistake in todays floundering economy. Arum thinks the fight will sell 5 million. Not at $100 a pop. Its better to get a little alot.... Than get alot a little.... Well that was a sample of one of my buds street logic, take it with a grain of salt. But I'd hate to see the goughing, grasping claws of greed preventing this fight from being as big an event as it could be.


-stormcentre :

This fight.... Rather this event, could possibly the biggest event ever in boxing. The promotors still have to do their job. Sure the product sells itself but you have to remind the American audience due to it's short attention span. The fight isnt in competition with Ali, Duran, Leonard, Tyson or anyone else. This about who's the best today. And despite the fact that both boxers may not be at their absolute best, both Floyd and Pac are still better than the rest of the division. I mean its not like Leonard and Hearns fighting for the third time at two or three weight classes above welterweight. Its more like Leonard vs Hagler at middleweight. Hagler was the undisisputed champ and Leonard was returning after a two year hiatus. He wasnt the same fighter he used to be but he still had enough left to overthrow one of the best middleweights in history. The fight was more strategic than punishing ..... But fans got to see who was the best in a real life fantasy matchup. The result was more important than the action and that's what fans remember. Leonard beat the baddest middleweight on the planet. This is what Pac vs Floyd is about.... Everybody wants to know whose the best... Personally I'm not going to the fight expecting to be overwhelmingly entertained... The party associated with the fight will be the entertainment... I just want to know who's the best and how the fight was won. Ward vs Gatti be damned....(not literally) but neither of those names have anything to do with this discussion because neither was ever considered to be the best over multiple decades like Floyd and Pac. This is now, this is today and its what everybody wants to know. The memories of the ghosts of boxing past will be more appropriate after the enlightenment of hindsight kicks in after the fight. They really ought to rethink that $100 price tag however...that could be a huge mistake in todays floundering economy. Arum thinks the fight will sell 5 million. Not at $100 a pop. Its better to get a little alot.... Than get alot a little.... Well that was a sample of one of my buds street logic, take it with a grain of salt. But I'd hate to see the goughing, grasping claws of greed preventing this fight from being as big an event as it could be.
Good post. Mayweather V1 & V2 Castillo turned out to be pretty exciting; because Floyd was in with someone that made him work. Same with Hatton V Mayweather. I could go on . . . . . I think, if (and I know some will say it's a big "if") Floyd senses he can outgun and/or outsmart Pacquaio he might look to shut critics up and make a big statement. Floyd has been in a lot of exciting fights, and - I agree - some not so thrilling. But, I tell you one thing, if he realizes that he can control Manny like he did Marquez; I am not going to be surprised to see Floyd put the foot down to the floor a little. Floyd is no Brandon Rios, and Manny probably aint changing too much from that version at this late stage of his (monumentally great) career.


-stormcentre :

Here is a good article on why the fight between Floyd and Pacquaio is still relevant and even, perhaps (at least in a lineal and other championship sense) as significant as some of the great yesteryear fights; Leonard V Duran/Hagler included.
->http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-pacquiao-17-years-superfight-1998--88089


-Radam G :

The LOOKS of this scrap between Money May and Da Manny will be similar to the back-in-da-day scrap between Sugar Ray Leonard and the late, great Hector "Macho Time" Camacho. Da Manny is going to beat curse-of-38+ Money May in an easy similar fashion. All night long, Money May is going to look like syet with a lot of holding, rope-of-doping, fouling, missing shot, bytch hoping and falling on his arse. The bad thing about AmerKanos, they can never see the coming for looking backward. Money May ain't got legs anymore. He is going to be hopeless as soon as round four. Dude will not be able to handle Da Manny's power or speed. And trying that timing bulljive is going to cause Money May to bleed. Calling his old cut man back, Money May did indeed need. Pop Joy May is lost. And a serious arse thrashing for his son, it is going to cost. Money May would be better off with Uncle Roger. He knows his ____ ____! PJM is all about himself. After Lil' Floyd is KTFO, Big Floyd is going to say that his son wouldn't mind him. Holla!


-Radam G :

Wow! The ATG Hand of Stones Roberto Duran is also picking Da Manny to do a number on Lil' Floyd. Holla!


-brownsugar :

Of course he does ....they are virtually twins from an agressivive boxer perspective.... Duran probably looks at Pac like he's the pugulistic version of a grandson.