Countdown To Mayweather-Pacquiao: Legit Super Fight Or Manufactured One?

Starting with this column I’ll be doing one article per week, Countdown To Mayweather-Pacquiao, until the fight, examining it from different angles. I’ll cover their best fights, what a win or a loss means for each fighter, who will win and why, and more.

Is the upcoming spectacle between welterweight title holders Floyd Mayweather 47-0 (26) and Manny Pacquiao 57-5-2 (38) a legitimate Super Fight? The obvious answer to that has to be yes since it will no doubt be the highest grossing fight in fistic history. And a lot of that has to do with the fact the bout is happening during a time when social media and fan access is exploding. Fans can follow and communicate with star athletes today more than any other time in history via Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and whatever else comes online between now and May 2, 2015. And nobody manipulates and tweaks via social media better than Mayweather.

The standard in which all modern Super Fights are measured by is the first meeting between undisputed heavyweight champion “Smokin” Joe Frazier 26-0 (23) and former undisputed champ Muhammad Ali 31-0 (25). It was accurately billed the “Fight of The Century” and took place on March 8th 1971 at Madison Square Garden in New York City. And you better believe to those who are fortunate enough to be living through the experience of both events…May 2, 2015 is certainly no March 8, 1971.

The first Frazier-Ali bout along with Leonard-Duran I, Leonard-Hearns I, and Hagler-Hearns were more authentic in that they featured two fighters where it was hard to picture either losing at the time of the bout, something that isn’t anywhere near the case regarding Mayweather-Pacquiao.

When Frazier fought Ali in 1971, Joe had succeeded Muhammad during his forced 43 month exile from boxing. And let there be no doubt about it, Frazier looked every bit as impressive going through the heavyweight division as Ali had four years earlier. When Leonard defended his welterweight title against Duran in 1980, Leonard was in the midst of surpassing Duran as the biggest star fighter in boxing who wasn’t a heavyweight. Duran entered their bout 71-1 (57) while Leonard was undefeated 27-0 (18). Five years after Leonard-Duran I, Marvin Hagler and Thomas Hearns met for the undisputed middleweight title. Sugar Ray Leonard was retired at the time and the winner between Hagler and Hearns would determine who boxing’s biggest star was.

The fights above evolved through a natural progression, unlike Mayweather-Pacquiao.

The ballyhoo for Floyd vs. Manny was manufactured via Mayweather refusing to fight Pacquiao for five and a half years. Pacquiao really didn’t enter the picture as far as being a threat to Mayweather until he knocked out Ricky Hatton in two rounds in May of 2009. It reached a fever pitch six months later when Manny took apart and stopped Miguel Cotto, who at the time was on the list of fighters that most fans and media felt Mayweather avoided. After Pacquiao beat Cotto the drumbeat started for him to fight Mayweather, only Floyd’s outward reluctance projected the thought that perhaps Pacquiao is the guy who can take Mayweather down. And the longer the fight was delayed the more Pacquiao became the peoples’ hope and choice to beat Mayweather.

The fact that Manny was out-boxed by Erik Morales and lost, didn’t look so terrific losing a dubious decision to Timothy Bradley, and was knocked out cold for two minutes by Juan Manuel Marquez didn’t matter. All that mattered was Mayweather won’t fight Pacquiao….so he must be afraid of losing to him. And it’s that false narrative that made the fight the blockbuster it now is. Had Floyd and Manny fought in 2010 it wouldn’t be the monster fight it is today. After five plus years fans are dying to see if Pacquiao is/was the fighter to bring Mayweather down.

The drama attached to Mayweather-Pacquiao is simply because Mayweather’s perceived fear of Pacquiao deemed Manny to be the only guy capable of erasing the 0 from the right side of Floyd’s record, nothing more. Had these two fought in 2010 when it was a more even match up, it’s no more anticipated than De La Hoya-Trinidad was in 1999. But Mayweather, by allowing the masses to think he feared Manny, led everybody to latch onto the hope that he was the only guy who could beat him. Finally, after running out of opponents that the public wanted to see them fight, they’re going to fight each other. And with Mayweather agreeing to the fight, the threat of Pacquiao winning lives on.

The other difference between the Super Fights above and Mayweather-Pacquiao is, everybody was split as to who would win them before the fight. And that’s what made them much more authentic and genuine. The fact that it was easy to find someone who would bet you even up that Frazier was going to beat Ali or the reverse fostered the anticipation. And the same was true regarding Leonard-Duran I, Leonard-Hearns I and Hagler-Hearns. If you thought Leonard was going to beat Duran, it was easy to find someone who would be glad to bet you even up that Roberto was the better fighter and would come out as the victor (Leonard was a 9-5 favorite). Mike Tyson was a 4-1 favorite over Michael Spinks when they fought in June of 1988. I had no doubt that Tyson was going to win before the fight, but even as a huge underdog it was easy to find guys who were willing to wager on Spinks even up. The same held true for the Hagler-Leonard bout. Marvin was a 4-1 favorite over Ray, but there were more than a few out there who were picking Leonard to win.

Last week I contacted 14 writers and friends whose opinion I value most when it comes to boxing. I asked them who they were picking to win the fight. Only one of 14 picked Pacquiao, and his reasoning for that was…”Manny would win a gift decision so there would be a rematch.” If Mayweather-Pacquiao is being sold as the can’t miss fight of the last quarter century, why do those who know see it so lopsidedly for one side? So much for the anticipation regarding the outcome!

As for national pundits, only Skip Bayless of ESPN so far has picked Pacquiao to win without reservation. However, that shouldn’t even count because Bayless is the least objective talking sports head in history. He is blinded by the disdain he harbors for Mayweather. Even if inside he believes Mayweather is going to win, he can’t back off of what he’s been saying for at least two years that I know of. Also, did you ever hear Skip discuss the sport of professional boxing? It isn’t pretty! I’d say its equivalent to listening to Sugar Ray Leonard instruct Smokey Robinson on how to sing, or Smokey trying to teach Sugar how to throw a punch.

This past weekend I was at a sports bar that has already begun advertising that they’re showing the fight. I purposely asked 10 male patrons who they were picking to win between Mayweather and Pacquiao? Nine of them said Mayweather. I asked the one who picked Manny if he was willing to meet me back there on May 2nd and make a wager on the fight where I have Mayweather and he has Pacquiao? He said, “I’ll meet you back here to watch the fight, but I’m not sure enough to bet you.” I replied, I’ll give you the Vegas line, 2 1/2 to 1. He said, “No thanks.”

Floyd Mayweather dictated the narrative that Manny Pacquiao is the only guy who has a chance to shut him up, and regardless of the anticipation for the fight, nobody believes him. And if you doubt that, see how many pundits and fans are willing to outright pick Pacquiao to beat Mayweather without hedging. Oh, they’ll give you the story about how he can win, but their convictions are very brittle as opposed to those picking Mayweather to win.

Yes, from a monetary vantage point Mayweather-Pacquiao is a legitimate Super Fight. And of course Pacquiao has a chance to upset Mayweather. It’s not like Manny is some no hope challenger. But for such an historic fight that is so highly anticipated, why is everybody picking the same side to come out victorious? That to me takes away the drama. Unlike the other Super Fights, I can easily envision either Mayweather or Pacquiao losing on May 2nd. I saw Jose Luis Castillo beat Mayweather in the ring and get robbed out of the decision the first time they fought, and Mayweather had his hands full with a wild and crude brawler named Marcos Maidana in his last two bouts……As for Pacquiao, he’s been defeated five times previously. What makes it such a big deal if Mayweather is the sixth to accomplish what five others have already done, and did so at a time when Manny was closer to his peak and fighting at his most optimal weight?

Fans clamored to see Frazier fight Ali because it was too tough to pick the winner, and it was hard to picture either of them losing to anybody at the time. Ditto that for Leonard vs. Duran I, Leonard vs. Hearns I, and Hagler vs. Hearns. Today fans are clamoring to see Mayweather vs. Pacquiao because by Floyd never fighting Manny, Manny became the “it” guy. The before mentioned fights were put together quickly as the public demand escalated. And that was even the case for Frazier-Ali I as well. Ali met Joe five months after his boxing license was re-instated after not fighting for 43 months. The Super Fights mentioned here didn’t need five plus years of hype. The hook for the upcoming Mayweather-Pacquiao clash was driven by Mayweather stringing the public along, wondering will he or won’t he ever fight Pacquiao.

From a perception perspective, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is one of the most lopsided Big Fights in boxing history going in. And a lot of that has to do with almost everyone agreeing on who will win it. The upcoming Mayweather-Pacquiao bout will garner professional boxing its biggest stage in nearly a quarter of a century, and that’s because the bout is a manufactured event via team Mayweather and a complicit boxing media. Together, they forged one of the greatest marketing campaigns ever. That said, it does have the making of being a very fan friendly and drama-filled bout regardless of who wins.

Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com

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COMMENTS

-stormcentre :

Good, nice and perceptive piece.


-Coxs Corner :

I agree. I am picking Mayweather to win (think I was one of those 14 guys since we talked about it on the phone. lol).


-BOIEMACHO :

I like this kind of article. This will definitely increase the odds of Floyd. I hope the odds could go up to 1:5. I have $5,000 set aside to bet for Pacquiao but I am still waiting for the odds to go up. Keep up the good work Frank Lotierzo. I want to read more of this kind of article of yours for the next few more weeks as you promised to do every week. Thank you. :o


-pikon :

Like Lennox Lewis said the fighter with a heart would win and Manny Pacquaio has a lot of it...This fight is not manufactured..This fight was forced by Les Moonves...


-pikon :

Floyd is unwilling to fight Manny since 2009..Fighting Manny is not in his plan..In Costas interview (2010) Floyd said his health is the most important of all.He also said Ali should have not fought fights that the fans wanted..He said he is a rich coward...


-Kid Blast :

Nicely done, Frank, as usual


-Radam G :

YUP! But it is typical boxing. And full of optical illusions. Money May would have plenty of losses if he would have ever fought an at-his-best prime pug. Money May has never done this. Da Manny has done it 14 times. That is why he has five losses. Money May is more of a humbug than the man behind the curtain. And Money May makes Sugar Ray Robinson look like a killer of fighting the best. And SRR had a record of 122-1 while ducking and cherry picking. So I'm surprised that a 38-year-old pug can be 47 and O with it in 2015. And make many pundits, the press and p____s believe that he is the best ever. And is going to destroy a scrapper who is equals to him in defense and umpteen superior than him in offense. I guess that it is just how they roll on the mainland Of the USA. Holla!


-Radam G :

YUP! But it is typical boxing. And full of optical illusions. Money May would have plenty of losses if he would have ever fought an at-his-best prime pug. Money May has never done this. Da Manny has done it 14 times. That is why he has five losses. Money May is more of a humbug than the man behind the curtain. And Money May makes Sugar Ray Robinson look like a killer of fighting the best. And SRR had a record of 122-1 while ducking and cherry picking. So I'm surprised that a 38-year-old pug can be 47 and O with it in 2015. And make many pundits, the press and p____s believe that he is the best ever. And is going to destroy a scrapper who is equals to him in defense and umpteen superior than him in offense. I guess that it is just how they roll on the mainland Of the USA. Holla!


-Radam G :

YUP! But it is typical boxing. And full of optical illusions. Money May would have plenty of losses if he would have ever fought an at-his-best prime pug. Money May has never done this. Da Manny has done it 14 times. That is why he has five losses. Money May is more of a humbug than the man behind the curtain. And Money May makes Sugar Ray Robinson look like a killer of fighting the best. And SRR had a record of 122-1 while ducking and cherry picking. So I'm surprised that a 38-year-old pug can be 47 and O with it in 2015. And make many pundits, the press and p____s believe that he is the best ever. And is going to destroy a scrapper who is equals to him in defense and umpteen superior than him in offense. I guess that it is just how they roll on the mainland Of the USA. Holla!


-Radam G :

Here goes super top of the top, cream-of-the-crop research on the pugs on the records of Lil Floyd and Da Manny. I know that the Pac-haters and Lil Floyd's groupies, bytches and fanboys won't be able to handle it. This guy clearly SHOWS that Money May is the best ever matched cherry-picking pug. What is manufactured is Lil Floyd's undefeated record. In all actuaity of the reality, Lil Floyd is a one-loss undefeated dude. There is no doubt that J.L. Castillo got robbed against Lil Floyd. And that bout and two others are the only ones that "The Best Ever" took without being on equal grounds. Against every other in-his-prime pug that Lil Floyd fought, he stacked the deck. He is the BEST EVER BOXING CON. Better than even Sugar Ray Robinson. And I ain't hating Lil Floyd for it. Because the game is prizefighting, not equal opportunity employment. Anyway, I don't expect for the Floydogs and hogs to look at this video of hardcore actuality of the reality:
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXh1KDLd4fg. In this video, Dude show that it is a BIG DARN MYTH about Da Manny being so flawed with his defensive game. He and Lil Floyd near matches. Observe and learn:
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDjTPo3C7gU. I don't expect for haters and Lil Floyd's groupies and fanboys to accept hardcore actualities of the realities. But they probably believe in ______ ____ ___ _____! But Money May is going to get tore da double fudge up with straight-up -- no fantasy nonsense and ethnic and racial superiority -- skills to pay da bills. Two red-blooded humans will be scrapping. And the best wins. Holla!


-Radam G :

WOO! WOOOOOO! Wait until you hear what Da Manny told Stephen A. Smith about Money May and the fight. You will think that Da Manny and I are one and the same. In so many words, Da Manny said that Lil Floyd is a "Wuzzy bytch punkified (sic) pug who has been frighten to man up fight. And he is getting beat." And now he arse is going to be easier than De la Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Tony Margarito. I syet you guys not. Holla at ESPN interview. Holla!


-Radam G :

A lot of the real boxing expert are now picking Da Manny. Now Teddy Atlas, Roberto Duran, Rev. " Hawk Time" Pryor, E Holy and Iron Mike are on that elevator. It will be full before long. It is going up. And Money May is going down. That is if he doesn't bytch punk pull outta da scrap. Along with the jive that he is knocking out sparring mates, reports are coming out that his fragile claws are not holding up well. Holla!


-Radam G :

Holla at Teddy Atlas's reasons for selecting Da Manny to beat Money May:
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh_2LJibgFg. Holla!


-Radam G :

Holla at Da Manny talking noise and telling that he will beat Money May's arse:
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UPToQpA9rw. Holla!


-Radam G :

Money May says that he will kayo Da Manny in less than five rounds. Erik Morales tells Pops Joy May, "SORRY! But Manny will beat your son." Hehe! Big Floyd gets aggravated and angry as heck and walked off telling EM that he ought be sorry for thinking such. Holla!


-Radam G :

OMFG! Unless CBS is miss reporting, now even WBC heavyweight king D-Wild is on the victory train of Da Manny betting against washed-up, "Curse of 38" years old Money May. Money May was always spittin' jive about other pugs staying around in da game passed 35 years old. And how he was not going to make that mistake. Now his bytch @$$ is three years passed that. And now he is fooling his fanboys, flunkies, floozies and fanfaronades that he is SuperMay and at 38 will be able to have his way. But many in da know ain't buying. They know dat bytch is kpytonite- used. Money May, at 38 years old, will be slow and pathetic. He will end up looking at the lights and covering up his doping-the eyes mug with his xylocaine-filled mitts. Holla!


-Radam G :

OMFG! Unless CBS is miss reporting, now even WBC heavyweight king D-Wild is on the victory train of Da Manny betting against washed-up, "Curse of 38" years old Money May. Money May was always spittin' jive about other pugs staying around in da game passed 35 years old. And how he was not going to make that mistake. Now his bytch @$$ is three years passed that. And now he is fooling his fanboys, flunkies, floozies and fanfaronades that he is SuperMay and at 38 will be able to have his way. But many in da know ain't buying. They know dat bytch is kpytonite- used. Money May, at 38 years old, will be slow and pathetic. He will end up looking at the lights and covering up his doping-the eyes mug with his xylocaine-filled mitts. Holla!


-Radam G :

Hot diga di dawg! No doubt that it is some type of bug shyt in the water of Sin City. Empire State Chris Algieri trained there for Da Manny and C-Al said some silly jive that he could see worries and fear in Da Manny's eyes. Now Lil' Floyd is hollering the same nonsense. These Yank pugs are delusional and delirious. That bug shyt in Nevada water system is causing a bad brain pucked disorder of grandiose thinking. hehehe! Holla!


-Radam G :

Money May is on dat syet. Now the fallen Angel Heredia is working for frighten lil Floyd.
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Paxousa7_E He didn't want any of Da Manny. Now Money May is cheating. But up, his will still be beaten. That one-punch killa jive with Hulkquez will not be repeating. No matter what jive chemicals that the fallen Angel Heredia gives Lil Floyd, They will not help. Da Manny has the athletic edge. He has always been in Lil Floyd's head. Teaming up with Alex Ariza and now Heredia, you know that Lil Floyd is boxing dead. And this might be surprising, but his arse will not be rising. The 38-year-old Lil Floyd should have been given a boxing funeral instead of a slanted scrap. Da Manny is going to close the casket on Lil Floyd's best days as an elite pug. On May 2, it will be a rap. Holla!


-Radam G :

WOW! TsAH is no humbug behind a curtain. I don't know what da puck he is. But I agree with talking head Paulie M about tsAH being able to do anything in da game. So we are looking at close that tsAH won't to do:
->http://ringobserver.com/articles/is-it-possible-haymon-mayweather-usada-could-frame-pacquiao-with-a-positive-test. Holla!


-Radam G :

Here goes another pug picking Da Manny:
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh0TvH0yAuQ. Holla!


-Radam G :

Holla at Da Manny getting on his shift punching. He's going to destroy the myth of Money May and break the Mayvinci Code and Money May eye socket, jaw and ribs:
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I4vbvsAKK0. Holla!


-amayseng :

Holla at Da Manny getting on his shift punching. He's going to destroy the myth of Money May and break the Mayvinci Code and Money May eye socket, jaw and ribs:
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I4vbvsAKK0. Holla!
He looks ridiculously Sharp already. Keep the videos coming RG


-Radam G :

WARNING: The following video is full of profanity.
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBCrDPVXz3Q&feature+youtube.be. But you can dig the actuality of the reality. Lil Floyd is ___ ____ ____ ___! I thought that he was never fighting Da Manny as long as Da Manny is with the BobFather. OMG! How quick one changes his mind. And I make stuff as I go. YUP! RIGHT! NYET! Money May is going to get bumrushed with the sweet science, not rocket science or some magical, new science. Holla!


-Radam G :

Holla at why Money May's dumb arse should fired Alex Ariza. Jive-turkey Money May is chopping dried-up-arse wood that flakes off chips and pieces that could fly into his eyeballs and give him a reason and the season to get out of the scrap. Any old-skool trainer have his charges chopping fresh, cut wood with sap and wetness still in it so that you would not risk syet flying into your eyes. Ariza doesn't know syet about lumberjacking or chopping work. What a dumb bytch. Give Money May some eye protector if he is going to fake chopping wood. Yall can see that I'm not making up this stuff on the fly if you just have an iota of a brain. Da game is full of dumb bytch-arse con man and know nothings. If Money May and his training-his-arse dimwits don't injure him first, Da Manny is going to hurt that boy. Money May is a spoiled-arse, punkified [sic] jive sucka who is now in boking male menopause and the "Curse of 38," and Da Manny got his arse in maximum view.
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=224KARIFQfE. And is going to destroy it. Holla!


-amayseng :

Holla at why Money May's dumb arse should fired Alex Ariza. Jive-turkey Money May is chopping dried-up-arse wood that flakes off chips and pieces that could fly into his eyeballs and give him a reason and the season to get out of the scrap. Any old-skool trainer have his charges chopping fresh, cut wood with sap and wetness still in it so that you would not risk syet flying into your eyes. Ariza doesn't know syet about lumberjacking or chopping work. What a dumb bytch. Give Money May some eye protector if he is going to fake chopping wood. Yall can see that I'm not making up this stuff on the fly if you just have an iota of a brain. Da game is full of dumb bytch-arse con man and know nothings. If Money May and his training-his-arse dimwits don't injure him first, Da Manny is going to hurt that boy. Money May is a spoiled-arse, punkified [sic] jive sucka who is now in boking male menopause and the "Curse of 38," and Da Manny got his arse in maximum view.
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=224KARIFQfE. And is going to destroy it. Holla!
He chops wood like a girl he should be embarrassed im not even kidding. If I swung an ax like that for firewood or training my dad would have disowned me


-deepwater2 :

Floyd should've kept that video to himself. I enjoy watching floyd doing his sit ups and exercises and such, but the chopping wood bit is sad. Floyd must not be too confident if he is adding new exercises to his routine. stick with what you know and what works lil Floyd. The real Rocky, Stallone could do a better job chopping wood in his 60's.


-Radam G :

DA Manny means serious business.
->http://m.YouTube.com/watch?v=8CRtSdXz1V4. He's going to easily crack the Mayvinci Code. Holla!


-Radam G :

Big Floyd is straight-up in disbelieve. He's lost all the love for Erik Morales for picking Lil Floyd to lose:
->http://m.YouTube.com/watch?v=rEdJAXgTWto. Holla!


-amayseng :

Big Floyd is straight-up in disbelieve. He's lost all the love for Erik Morales for picking Lil Floyd to lose:
->http://m.YouTube.com/watch?v=rEdJAXgTWto. Holla!
I am now dumber for listening to Sr spew out his usual nonsense


-Radam G :

I am now dumber for listening to Sr spew out his usual nonsense
Wow! Good thing that I didn't put up the video of Pop Joy Mays saying that no fighter who he coaches can be knocked out by a fighter that "no hope, joke, need to be sprayed Freddie Roach coach [$??]." Hehe! I guess that PJM has forgotten that Da Manny kayoed Ricky Hatton when Ricky was being coached by PJM. Now I'm being to feel dumber. Haha! Holla!