Roach Talks About Sparring Plans, Hopes For the Ref, More

So little time, so much to do to get ready for the stiffest test of a Hall of Famer-level career: how will Manny Pacquiao be getting ready to fight the defensive master Floyd Mayweather on May 2?

Indeed, the count-down to that scrap is an abbreviated one compared to most runups to big bouts Pacman has signed on for. Usually, he’ll do 12 weeks of camp. For this one, the big one, he will get to Wild Card on March 8, Coach Roach told me, and so really, camp will consist of two weeks of getting in game shape, and six weeks of boxing.

“Manny Pacquiao works so hard, he’s in danger of burning himself out,” the tutor told me, by way of explaining why he’s totally fine with the shorter camp. Usually, he continued, they do maybe 150 rounds of sparring to get ready for a foe. This time, Manny will spar maybe 90-100 rounds. There will be more heavy bag, less interacting with human targets, he said.

“It’s plenty of time. We’ll do six weeks of sparring, then taper off at the end.”

OK, so we all pretty much know Manny is going to be ready to rock. What about the fight? What does it look like? Manny is a volume guy; that could be helpful assuming neither guy scores a knockout. Seems a good bet, as Mayweather has hand issues and is risk averse, while Pacman hasn’t stopped anyone since 2009…

“The volume edge is very good,” Roach told me. “But, we know Mayweather is comfortable with Vegas.”

Translation: who thinks the judges will be in a mindset to give the closest rounds to Pacman? “All I’m asking for is a fair fight,” he said. That means who-ever refs, Roach wants them to let the boys rumble, let the fight flow. “The whole world will be watching and judging boxing,” the ex pro and 7-time BWAA Trainer of the Year said. Roach didn’t name a ref that he doesn’t want to get the assignment, and said he has faith that whoever gets the call will do a solid job.

TSS Universe, who do you want to see get the call? Kenny Bayless? Tony Weeks? Someone else? Talk to me…

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COMMENTS

-#1 PacFan :

Kenny Bayless has my vote. He is in control at all times and knows how to deal with anything in the ring. If you think about it Manny has been prepping for this type of in terms of last couple opponents. Both Bradley and Algerie are good boxers who tried to outbox Manny but failed. I wouldn't mind seeing both guys be used as sparring partners for Manny for this fight.


-razorramon :

The referee is the key into this fight..hope the fans won't be rob


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Kenny Bayless has my vote. He is in control at all times and knows how to deal with anything in the ring. If you think about it Manny has been prepping for this type of in terms of last couple opponents. Both Bradley and Algerie are good boxers who tried to outbox Manny but failed. I wouldn't mind seeing both guys be used as sparring partners for Manny for this fight.
Floyd and Manny have a similar problem in that neither fighter can find sparring partners that can mimic what they are going to experience in the ring come May 2nd. Bradley and Algieri can't duplicate Floyd's ring savvy and ability to adjust on the fly. Both boxers are in for the fight of their lives but Floyd has too much skill and will at the end of the day in my opinion. As he told Larry Merchant about a decade ago in a post fight interview, "I can win under any circumstances!"


-#1 PacFan :

I agree Manny's style is difficult to emulate but Floyd's style can be imitated. Floyd's only skill.as far.as.defense.is his shoulder roll. Manny can I repeat CAN penetrate through the shoulder roll. Manny has always been underrated with his body work. Manny can go to the body while Floyd sits on the ropes. I believe Roach will use Floyd defense for a counter strategy.


-deepwater2 :

Roach should hire Broner ,$25,000 for 3 sessions. Let PAC loose on him and rip him apart. Send him packing so he can call Floyd to warn him. The mental pressure will be too much for Floyd.the art of war. He should hire some young Guns too, like Spence and Lubin. PAC needs to be mean in there.


-kidcanvas :

if it could be anyone id take smoger or a frank cappucino type, then youd know that aside from wacking each other in the balls they would be aloud to fight inside and out, without these refs who seem to want to be the star of the fight ruining it .


-Froggy :

Roach should hire Broner ,$25,000 for 3 sessions. Let PAC loose on him and rip him apart. Send him packing so he can call Floyd to warn him. The mental pressure will be too much for Floyd.the art of war. He should hire some young buns too like Spence and Lubin. PAC needs to be mean in there.
Great idea, pay him whatever is necessary !


-Glass Joe :

Far be it from me to questions Freddie Roach's training tactics, but did he really say: "There will be more heavy bag, less interacting with human target."? Less interacting with human targets? Really? And he's going against one of the best movers in the game? Sure, hit the heavy bag all you want if your opponent is Brandon Rios. Not if your opponent is Floyd Mayweather. I don't get it. GJ


-Radam G :

Far be it from me to questions Freddie Roach's training tactics, but did he really say: "There will be more heavy bag, less interacting with human target."? Less interacting with human targets? Really? And he's going against one of the best movers in the game? Sure, hit the heavy bag all you want if your opponent is Brandon Rios. Not if your opponent is Floyd Mayweather. I don't get it. GJ
One of the best ex movers in da game. Money May has dead legs nowadays, and can no longer move with speed and stealth. He will be friendly with the ropes, clinching, elbow and dirty fighting with hip and groan shots. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

No Kenny Bayless. he breaks too much when it benefits Floyd. Floyd will never let Tony Weeks in the ring with him again. He lets Floyd get beat up in there. I vote for Tony Weeks. Bring Richard steele out of retirement for this one. he might step in and save Floyd.


-The Commish :

Roach should hire Broner ,$25,000 for 3 sessions. Let PAC loose on him and rip him apart. Send him packing so he can call Floyd to warn him. The mental pressure will be too much for Floyd.the art of war. He should hire some young Guns too, like Spence and Lubin. PAC needs to be mean in there.
And what happens if Broner spanks Manny? I seriously doubt that would happen. But, what if? -Randy G.


-Froggy :

And what happens if Broner spanks Manny? I seriously doubt that would happen. But, what if? -Randy G.
That would definitely give Floyd confidence, that might be a plan too, never thought of that !


-stormcentre :

Roach should hire Broner ,$25,000 for 3 sessions. Let PAC loose on him and rip him apart. Send him packing so he can call Floyd to warn him. The mental pressure will be too much for Floyd.the art of war. He should hire some young Guns too, like Spence and Lubin. PAC needs to be mean in there.
Love it . . . "Roach should hire Broner for 3 sessions at $25,000 and let PAC loose on him and rip him apart". Yep, great idea D2. But would Broner take the bait and potentially risk himself not taking boxing to another level? Sorry, as yawl know I can't help myself. :) Let's pretend (for all our sakes) that Bad Boy Broner (3B?) does suck up the challenge. Camera Rolling . . . . . "3, 2, 1 . action . ." Here's the script . . . Let Broner attend Roaches gym with (at least) a dozen or more of his homies and other members of his posse. Broner feels out of place and immediately needs attention; this, in turn, instantly starts his nervous tension up - along with triggering his salivating mouth in preparation for the expulsion of verbal trash. Ensure there are (at least) 8 think gold chains to every person in Broner's posse - otherwise no one will believe the movie is real. Who says Broner doesn't walk around as a middleweight with all those chains? Have a costume jewelry "expert" on hand if need be. As impossible as it may sound to do; have Broner run his mouth off like a 2-stroke lawnmower in short wet grass as he scales the stairs to the Wild Card gym. Have Roach being nice to Broner as enters - with a slightly forced smile - but in a; "this is an experience you will never forget" kind of way. (Anyone with experience in this sport will know what I mean by that). Ensure Broner must enter the gym and walk past Cotto and a few other guys that would have him in
Deepwater - just for intimidation purposes. As that would do nothing to shut Broner up - probably make it worse. I can just see it now, Broner talking absolute rubbish - perhaps even dancing - as he walks up the steps of the Wild Card gym; only to come rolling down out much faster, a few minutes later. Benny Blanco - Carlilto's Way style. If you could get James Toney back in that same gym for the shoot it would be gold too. Particularly if he would respond to Broner's smack talk with his own; subtitle Toney's smack talk if you have to. OK, I confess . . . I did "borrow" a little from Brian De Palma's Carlito's Way film with my above script. How could you not? That movie, Pacino, Penn, Penelope Ann Miller, Guzman, James Rebhorn, Viggo Mortensen, John Ortiz (Guajiro), Joseph Siravo, Jorge Porcel (he played Saso), Frank Minucci, John Leguizamo (Benny Blanco) and all the others . . . . was absolutely brilliant. So many people and scenes in there that reminded me of things from the past. Aside from the opening scene where Carlito - alongside Kleinfeld {Sean Penn} his lawyer - dismisses Kleinfeld's advice and goes straight ahead anyway to personally address the bench and tell the judge that he is rehabilitated now, should be let out of jail, and that the rehabilitation didn't take 25 years "like your honor thought"); one of my favorite scenes is when/after Benny Blanco - the new dealer on the block - is "sorted out" for both; a) Understandably trying to prevent Carlito for taking over his girl. b) Trying to be a "little toughie" (in Carlito's newly acquired night club) amongst the Big Dawgs (Carlito, Pachanga and Co) that used to, and can still, run the big keys across the border without resistance, and as such now have control of the night club, the territory, and also Benny's lovely little squeeze - whose chest resembled some "broad" that looked like she was shot in the back with a pair of perfectly spaced cruise missiles. As you would expect with a guy like Carlito, he knew how to handle Benny and his attitude. But all those years in jail had taught Carlito that there were sometimes dire consequences to the serious actions that he previously gave no second thoughts to, and as such he (perhaps foolishly) hesitated to finish Benny off after the beating he took, and as he lay at the bottom of the fire escape stairs behind Carlito's night club; thinking - or perhaps hoping - Benny Blanco would learn his lesson from his roll down the back stairs and not come back for more or revenge. Remember Pachanga in the movie? If someone can nail that role better than Luis Guzman did let me know their name please. Pachanga saw absolutely no utility in Carlito's mercy towards Benny Blanco. Pachanga knew on the streets and in their game it was kill or be killed; no matter how long you had spent in jail. Pachanga was a little disappointed in Carlito's clemency for Benny Blanco and saw Benny's (saved) life as a possible weakness in Carlito - but it was a weakness he dare not explicitly reveal to Carlito; his friend and employer. So instead, Pachanga played the situation another way - to old times and one of their previous favorite passions; ensuring guys that crossed them were showed no mercy, shot, and sunk at the nearby wharf. Remember what Pachanga said to Carlito immediately after Benny Blanco had been beat up and thrown down the rear stairs of the night club - just when he sensed Carlito didn't want to complete the "job"? Pachanga, (in a simply brilliant character role {as usual for Luis Guzman}, executing . . or rather nailing . . what is a gorgeous piece of choreographed cinematography), at the top of the stairs, turns to Carlito and openly pleads with him not to show any mercy to Benny Blanco. The dialogue is awesome and similar to this; ""C'mon Carlito . . . . Carlito lets take him to the wharf and shoot him - slight chuckle thrown in here {reminiscent of possibly wonderful times ahead}. . . C'mon Carllito - it'd be just like old times .. you and me against them all and winning. .. . . c'mon man let's do it - let's do it now - let's take him to the wharf and throw him in . . . ha ha ha"". But Carilto didn't want to risk his new life and love with Gail (Penelope Ann Miller). It would be a fatal decision for Carlito as Benny Blanco came back to shoot him just as he was making his getaway to a new life with Gail.


-stormcentre :

Roach should hire Broner ,$25,000 for 3 sessions. Let PAC loose on him and rip him apart. Send him packing so he can call Floyd to warn him. The mental pressure will be too much for Floyd.the art of war. He should hire some young Guns too, like Spence and Lubin. PAC needs to be mean in there.
Love it . . . "Roach should hire Broner for 3 sessions at $25,000 and let PAC loose on him and rip him apart". Yep, great idea D2. But would Broner take the bait and potentially risk himself not taking boxing to another level? Sorry, as yawl know I can't help myself. :) Let's pretend (for all our sakes) that Bad Boy Broner (3B?) does suck up the challenge. Camera Rolling . . . . . "3, 2, 1 . action . ." Here's the script . . . Let Broner attend Roaches gym with (at least) a dozen or more of his homies and other members of his posse. Broner feels out of place and immediately needs attention; this, in turn, instantly starts his nervous tension up - along with triggering his salivating mouth in preparation for the expulsion of verbal trash. Ensure there are (at least) 8 thick gold chains to every person in Broner's posse - otherwise no one will believe the movie is real. Who says Broner doesn't walk around as a middleweight with all those chains? Have a costume jewelry "expert" on hand if need be. As impossible as it may sound to do; have Broner run his mouth off like a 2-stroke lawnmower in short wet grass as he scales the stairs to the Wild Card gym. Have Roach being nice to Broner as enters - with a slightly forced smile - but in a; "this is an experience you will never forget" kind of way. (Anyone with experience in this sport will know what I mean by that). Ensure Broner must enter the gym and walk past Cotto and a few other guys that would have him in
Deepwater - just for intimidation purposes. As that would do nothing to shut Broner up - probably make it worse. I can just see it now, Broner talking absolute rubbish - perhaps even dancing - as he walks up the steps of the Wild Card gym; only to come rolling down out much faster, a few minutes later. Benny Blanco - Carlilto's Way style. If you could get James Toney back in that same gym for the shoot it would be gold too. Particularly if he would respond to Broner's smack talk with his own; subtitle Toney's smack talk if you have to. OK, I confess . . . I did "borrow" a little from Brian De Palma's Carlito's Way film with my above script. How could you not? That movie, Pacino, Penn, Penelope Ann Miller, Guzman, James Rebhorn, Viggo Mortensen, John Ortiz (Guajiro), Joseph Siravo, Jorge Porcel (he played Saso), Frank Minucci, John Leguizamo (Benny Blanco) and all the others . . . . was absolutely brilliant. So many people and scenes in there that reminded me of things from the past. Aside from the opening scene where Carlito - alongside Kleinfeld {Sean Penn} his lawyer - dismisses Kleinfeld's advice and goes straight ahead anyway to personally address the bench and tell the judge that he is rehabilitated now, should be let out of jail, and that the rehabilitation didn't take 25 years "like your honor thought"; one of my favorite scenes is when/after Benny Blanco - the new dealer on the block - is "sorted out" for both; a) Understandably trying to prevent Carlito for taking over his girl. b) Trying to be a "little toughie" (in Carlito's newly acquired night club) amongst the Big Dawgs (Carlito, Pachanga and Co) that used to, and can still, run the big keys across the border without resistance, and as such now have control of the night club, the territory, and also Benny's lovely little squeeze - whose chest resembled some "broad" that looked like she was shot in the back with a pair of perfectly spaced cruise missiles. As you would expect with a guy like Carlito, he knew how to handle Benny and his attitude. But all those years in jail had taught Carlito that there were sometimes dire consequences to the serious actions that he previously gave no second thoughts to, and as such he (perhaps foolishly) hesitated to finish Benny off after the beating he took, and as he lay at the bottom of the fire escape stairs behind Carlito's night club; thinking - or perhaps hoping - Benny Blanco would learn his lesson from his roll down the back stairs and not come back for more or revenge. Remember Pachanga in the movie? If someone can nail that role better than Luis Guzman did let me know their name please. Pachanga saw absolutely no utility in Carlito's mercy towards Benny Blanco. Pachanga knew on the streets and in their game it was kill or be killed; no matter how long you had spent in jail. Pachanga was a little disappointed in Carlito's clemency for Benny Blanco and saw Benny's (saved) life as a possible weakness in Carlito - but it was a weakness he dare not explicitly reveal to Carlito; his friend and employer. So instead, Pachanga played the situation another way - to old times and one of their previous favorite passions; ensuring guys that crossed them were showed no mercy, shot, and sunk at the nearby wharf. Remember what Pachanga said to Carlito immediately after Benny Blanco had been beat up and thrown down the rear stairs of the night club - just when he sensed Carlito didn't want to complete the "job"? Pachanga, (in a simply brilliant character role {as usual for Luis Guzman}, executing . . or rather nailing . . what is a gorgeous piece of choreographed cinematography), at the top of the stairs, turns to Carlito and openly pleads with him not to show any mercy to Benny Blanco. The dialogue is awesome and similar to this; ""C'mon Carlito . . . . Carlito lets take him to the wharf and shoot him - slight chuckle thrown in here {reminiscent of possibly wonderful times ahead}. . . C'mon Carllito - it'd be just like old times .. you and me against them all and winning. .. . . c'mon man let's do it - let's do it now - let's take him to the wharf and throw him in . . . ha ha ha"". But Carilto didn't want to risk his new life and love with Gail (Penelope Ann Miller). It would be a fatal decision for Carlito as Benny Blanco came back to shoot him just as he was making his getaway to a new life with Gail.


-stormcentre :

Roach should hire Broner ,$25,000 for 3 sessions. Let PAC loose on him and rip him apart. Send him packing so he can call Floyd to warn him. The mental pressure will be too much for Floyd.the art of war. He should hire some young Guns too, like Spence and Lubin. PAC needs to be mean in there.
Love it . . . "Roach should hire Broner for 3 sessions at $25,000 and let PAC loose on him and rip him apart". Yep, great idea D2. But would Broner take the bait and potentially risk himself not taking boxing to another level? Sorry, as yawl know I can't help myself. :) Let's pretend (for all our sakes) that Bad Boy Broner (3B?) does suck up the challenge. Camera Rolling . . . . . "3, 2, 1 . action . ." Here's the script . . . Let Broner attend Roaches gym with (at least) a dozen or more of his homies and other members of his posse. Broner feels out of place and immediately needs attention; this, in turn, instantly starts his nervous tension up - along with triggering his salivating mouth in preparation for the expulsion of verbal trash. Ensure there are (at least) 8 thick gold chains to every person in Broner's posse - otherwise no one will believe the movie is real. Who says Broner doesn't walk around as a middleweight with all those chains? Have a costume jewelry "expert" on hand if need be. As impossible as it may sound to do; have Broner run his mouth off like a 2-stroke lawnmower in short wet grass as he scales the stairs to the Wild Card gym. Have Roach being nice to Broner as enters - with a slightly forced smile - but in a; "this is an experience you will never forget" kind of way. (Anyone with experience in this sport will know what I mean by that). Ensure Broner must enter the gym and walk past Cotto and a few other guys that would have him in
Deepwater - just for intimidation purposes. As that would do nothing to shut Broner up - probably make it worse. I can just see it now, Broner talking absolute rubbish - perhaps even dancing - as he walks up the steps of the Wild Card gym; only to come rolling down out much faster, a few minutes later. Benny Blanco - Carlilto's Way style. If you could get James Toney back in that same gym for the shoot it would be gold too. Particularly if he would respond to Broner's smack talk with his own; subtitle Toney's smack talk if you have to. OK, I confess . . . I did "borrow" a little from Brian De Palma's Carlito's Way film with my above script. How could you not? That movie, Pacino, Penn, Penelope Ann Miller, Guzman, James Rebhorn, Viggo Mortensen, John Ortiz (Guajiro), Joseph Siravo, Jorge Porcel (he played Saso), Frank Minucci, John Leguizamo (Benny Blanco) and all the others . . . . was absolutely brilliant. So many people and scenes in there that reminded me of things from the past. Aside from the opening scene where Carlito - alongside Kleinfeld {Sean Penn} his lawyer - dismisses Kleinfeld's advice and goes straight ahead anyway to personally address the bench and tell the judge that he is rehabilitated now, should be let out of jail, and that the rehabilitation didn't take 25 years "like your honor thought"; one of my favorite scenes is when/after Benny Blanco - the new dealer on the block - is "sorted out" for both; a) Understandably, trying to prevent Carlito from taking over his girl. b) Trying to be a "little toughie" (in Carlito's newly acquired night club) amongst the Big Dawgs (Carlito, Pachanga and Co) that used to, and can still, run the big keys across the border without resistance, and as such now have control of the night club, the territory, and also Benny's lovely little squeeze - whose chest resembled some "broad" that looked like she was shot in the back with a pair of perfectly spaced cruise missiles. As you would expect with a guy like Carlito, he knew how to handle Benny and his attitude. But all those years in jail had taught Carlito that there were sometimes dire consequences to the serious actions that he previously gave no second thoughts to, and as such he (perhaps foolishly) hesitated to finish Benny off after the beating he took, and as he lay at the bottom of the fire escape stairs behind Carlito's night club; thinking - or perhaps hoping - Benny Blanco would learn his lesson from his roll down the back stairs and not come back for more or revenge. Remember Pachanga in the movie? If someone can nail that role better than Luis Guzman did let me know their name please. Pachanga saw absolutely no utility in Carlito's mercy towards Benny Blanco. Pachanga knew on the streets and in their game it was kill or be killed; no matter how long you had spent in jail. Pachanga was a little disappointed in Carlito's clemency for Benny Blanco and saw Benny's (saved) life as a possible weakness in Carlito - but it was a weakness he dare not explicitly reveal to Carlito; his friend and employer. So instead, Pachanga played the situation another way - to old times and one of their previous favorite passions; ensuring guys that crossed them were showed no mercy, shot, and sunk at the nearby wharf. Remember what Pachanga said to Carlito immediately after Benny Blanco had been beat up and thrown down the rear stairs of the night club - just when he sensed Carlito didn't want to complete the "job"? Pachanga, (in a simply brilliant character role {as usual for Luis Guzman}, executing . . or rather nailing . . what is a gorgeous piece of choreographed cinematography), at the top of the stairs, turns to Carlito and openly pleads with him not to show any mercy to Benny Blanco. The dialogue is awesome and similar to this; ""C'mon Carlito . . . . Carlito lets take him to the wharf and shoot him - slight chuckle thrown in here {reminiscent of possibly wonderful times ahead}. . . C'mon Carllito - it'd be just like old times .. you and me against them all and winning. .. . . c'mon man let's do it - let's do it now - let's take him to the wharf and throw him in . . . ha ha ha"". But Carilto didn't want to risk his new life and love with Gail (Penelope Ann Miller). It would be a fatal decision for Carlito as Benny Blanco came back to shoot him just as he was making his getaway to a new life with Gail.


-deepwater2 :

Carlito avoided his responsibility . When you are in you are in. In a rough game ,if you show mercy it comes back to get you. Carlito missed out.great movie. I hope manny closes the show. If he lets up he gets the loss.


-The Commish :

The ref will be from Nevada, no question, as that is usually the norm for the NSAC. So, given that, in order of their chances of getting the assignment, I say it's: 1. Kenny Bayless 2. Tony Weeks 3. Robert Byrd I doubt it will be any other Nevada ref (although I wish Richard Steele were still working!). -Randy G.


-Radam G :

And what happens if Broner spanks Manny? I seriously doubt that would happen. But, what if? -Randy G.
WOW! You been drinking too much coffee or maybe that Empire State water. First! Broner said that he will never help anybody beat his "big brother Floyd." Secondly! Broner stinks. And is an American make beleive and hype job. There are more Filipino pugs than Da Manny that will destroy Broner. And those in da know know. The kid is a joke. And a lot of fans and fanfaronades eyeballs have been blinded by intense SMOKE. Holla!


-Radam G :

The ref will be from Nevada, no question, as that is usually the norm for the NSAC. So, given that, in order of their chances of getting the assignment, I say it's: 1. Kenny Bayless 2. Tony Weeks 3. Robert Byrd I doubt it will be any other Nevada ref (although I wish Richard Steele were still working!). -Randy G.
I'm all for the ref being Afrikan-AmerKano. That way, Team Money May would be saying that it was a white-man conspiracy when Money May's arse is KAYOED. Those are rumor that Eddie Cotton might be the selected ref. Holla!


-Froggy :

I'm all for the ref being Afrikan-AmerKano. That way, Team Money May would be saying that it was a white-man conspiracy when Money May's arse is KAYOED. Those are rumor that Eddie Cotton might be the selected ref. Holla!
In the Lewis-Tyson fight, Eddie Cotton sure didn't look like an unbiased referee, he was on Tyson's side ! If he would be the ref on May 2, I would be shocked if he was not on Mayweathers side !


-brownsugar :

Floyd has said in the past that he felt he wasn't treated fairly from an economical viewpoint because he was a black American, but I've never heard him charge officials, judges or refs with racial bias. Bayless is a good judge, he'll do fine. Manny fights by the rules so there will be no issues.


-brownsugar :

Manny had some excellent sparring partners to prepare him for Algieri, Postol was one of them, when I heard who he was sparring with, I knew Algieri had no chance, because everyone of Manny's sparring partners could have beaten Algieri easily, I'm sure Manny will be well prepared for this fight as well. Floyd spares nothing when it comes to getting quality sparring partners either, .... when the competition is 5 Star, Floyd gets 5 Star sparring. As far as Manny preparing for the Shoulder Roll, the Shoulder Roll has nothing to do with it, Floyd can fight out of a peek-a-boo or orthodox stance. Floyd can fight in close, at a distance, or sit in the pocket. If age hasn't caught up to him, I'm sure he's already figured how he wants to approach Manny in the ring before the contract was even signed. Doesn't guarantee a win, but I haven't noticed Floyd's confidence waiver at all for this challenge. this is going to be good.


-Radam G :

Floyd has said in the past that he felt he wasn't treated fairly from an economical viewpoint because he was a black American, but I've never heard him charge officials, judges or refs with racial bias. Bayless is a good judge, he'll do fine. Manny fights by the rules so there will be no issues.
Money May and Pops Joy May called Tony Weeks everything but the child of God after Weeks refereed Lil Floyd's almost-a-lost fight against Marcos Maidana. Among his in-group peeps, Big Floyd called Weeks a jealous ____ ____ _____ N-word working for "da white man to stop my son from breaking Rocky Marciano's record!" C'mon B-Sug, you know what time it is. White and black Amerkanos talk ethnic-sensitive syet behind each others' backs. You guys -- I'm not saying that you are one of them -- say and do around Asians and Mexicans like we are some kind of humanoid pets or something. Also during the times that no pure Asians and Latins are around, ethnic-mean jive is spoken about us. See we know this, because our peeps who are mixed with white or black and can blend in tell us da whole nine. We got Mestizo spies -- who look pure black or white -- everywhere. Bottomline, this scrap between Money May and Da Manny is a race-and-ethnic-and-national-original-sensitive gitdown [sic]. And all you hypersensitive, politically right Yanks oughta stop. Call a spade a spade. And quit hiding in the shade. Racism has not gone away on the U.S. mainland and nowhere else. And pulling for your own ethnicity, homie or whatever ain't a bad thing. It is human nature to cheer for the person who you relate to or with. Ninety percent of Afro Amerkano are outside-group prejudice as heck. And about the same amount of whites are. Only about 10 percent of Filipinos are prejudice and racist arseholes, but we beat da double fudge syet outta of them whenever and wherever we find them. So they normally stay underground and outta sight and keep to themselves. We Pinoys and Chinoy and mestizos are all for loving and will mixed with anybody. Life is too short for dumbsyet hate. We are always and forever ready to get our freak on with LOVE from Russia -- I mean P-I. Hehehe! Holla!


-stormcentre :

Manny had some excellent sparring partners to prepare him for Algieri, Postol was one of them, when I heard who he was sparring with, I knew Algieri had no chance, because everyone of Manny's sparring partners could have beaten Algieri easily, I'm sure Manny will be well prepared for this fight as well. Floyd spares nothing when it comes to getting quality sparring partners either, .... when the competition is 5 Star, Floyd gets 5 Star sparring. As far as Manny preparing for the Shoulder Roll, the Shoulder Roll has nothing to do with it, Floyd can fight out of a peek-a-boo or orthodox stance. Floyd can fight in close, at a distance, or sit in the pocket. If age hasn't caught up to him, I'm sure he's already figured how he wants to approach Manny in the ring before the contract was even signed. Doesn't guarantee a win, but I haven't noticed Floyd's confidence waiver at all for this challenge. this is going to be good.
Good post. I believe that Floyd can easily get sparring partners that emulate what Pacquaio does enough to prepare him in every respect save intensity. I don't believe Pacquaio can get sparring partners that present as Floyd as closely as Floyd can that will for Pacquaio. You're right, Floyd has previously and should change the defence up a little for lefties, and Pacquaio. I too like the fact that Floyd not only doesn't look bothered about Pacman - but also that he sought the fight out. This fight will be epic.


-stormcentre :

Money May and Pops Joy May called Tony Weeks everything but the child of God after Weeks refereed Lil Floyd's almost-a-lost fight against Marcos Maidana. Among his in-group peeps, Big Floyd called Weeks a jealous ____ ____ _____ N-word working for "da white man to stop my son from breaking Rocky Marciano's record!" C'mon B-Sug, you know what time it is. White and black Amerkanos talk ethnic-sensitive syet behind each others' backs. You guys -- I'm not saying that you are one of them -- say and do around Asians and Mexicans like we are some kind of humanoid pets or something. Also during the times that no pure Asians and Latins are around, ethnic-mean jive is spoken about us. See we know this, because our peeps who are mixed with white or black and can blend in tell us da whole nine. We got Mestizo spies -- who look pure black or white -- everywhere. Bottomline, this scrap between Money May and Da Manny is a race-and-ethnic-and-national-original-sensitive gitdown [sic]. And all you hypersensitive, politically right Yanks oughta stop. Call a spade a spade. And quit hiding in the shade. Racism has not gone away on the U.S. mainland and nowhere else. And pulling for your own ethnicity, homie or whatever ain't a bad thing. It is human nature to cheer for the person who you relate to or with. Ninety percent of Afro Amerkano are outside-group prejudice as heck. And about the same amount of whites are. Only about 10 percent of Filipinos are prejudice and racist arseholes, but we beat da double fudge syet outta of them whenever and wherever we find them. So they normally stay underground and outta sight and keep to themselves. We Pinoys and Chinoy and mestizos are all for loving and will mixed with anybody. Life is too short for dumbsyet hate. We are always and forever ready to get out freak on with LOVE from Russia -- I mean P-I. Hehehe! Holla!
Call me crazy, but I actually like the mock racism comments that flow around in our culture(s); so long as it really is genuinely mock-racism and designed for cultural and humorous purposes. Where would we be without it? In some ways it glues us together and normalizes our differences; seriously - it can. To me, if those that the comments are meant to insult (when in their serious and non-mocking form) are actually happy with them when the comments are released in their mocking form. . (for example . . most Amercian/African negroes I know {and don't get me wrong, I love them.. and have stolen many of their great smooth lines and moves} themselves call each other "my nigger") then - in the right context - (as far as I am concerned) they're OK and artistic. The key is making sure your audience knows you are being artistic, and always providing the benefit of the doubt of you're the target of the comment - as I have been many times. Another example can be found in that great movie with Bruce Willis in it where he corrects and tells his girlie that his (stolen) motorcycle is not a motorcycle, but a chopper. The part I am talking about is when Willis' character and another unfortunate Big Badass American negro dude (great actor but can't remember his real name) get trapped in the back of the gun shop with the shop's proprietor and another security guy (whom in real life is another great character actor also); whom both think it's time to play out some homosexual fantasies on Willis' character and the Big Badass American negro dude; "the victims". But . . . both victims break free after Willis' character busts up the security guard by surprise, and then, when the tables are reversed and both the gun-shop owner and the guard find themselves tied up, the Big Badass American negro dude says words similar to but explicitly the same as the ""nigger" bit . . . to the two previous guys that held him against his will and actually raped him; "Stay here motherpluckers as I am going to find me some hard nose
pipe hitting niggers that will come back and serve some justice". That line is beautifully artistic, and probably only acceptable because of who is saying it. "Pipe hitting niggers" (as a means of exacting the ultimate revenge) became a cult saying over here in Australia and no matter what color you were it was acceptable, and this is what I am talking about. Same for Columbian, Rican and Mexican cultures, sayings, and lines. I love the use of "Homie" in some dialog, but respect it can be out of place. Now you may think this is crazy, but I actually love boxing so much that I also love the dialog that goes with it some times. The bravado and smack talk in this sport is sometimes the stuff of movie scripts; even though sometimes it is real trash too. Like modern art, there is good and bad in it and the real art comes from thought and knowledge, as knowledge (more than some other attributes) is power. Toney is probably the best at bravado and smack talk in this sport; when understood. His verbal barrages to Rampage Jackson (and Rampages' returns) were brilliant. ""Go bak 2 ur masta Uncle Tom"" Floyd and family (particularly Riger) are not bad either. All up, for me, the rule of thumb is (if I am not directly involved) do they make me smile? Or, (if I am directly involved) is it cool and am I safe? :) Usually, I get away with it cause most that know me know I am (hardly) never personally serious. Now back to MMMNostRADAMus. If there is a bigger Pacquaio supporter and fan out there I don't know of him. You are the man in that category. And I am surprised that you let BrownSugar get away with even his (above) well thought and solid comments about Floyd, Floyd's confidence and sparring; to which I mostly agree with. (Not that BS {or you MMMNostRADAMus} can't hold his own in this forum, as you're both top dawgs around here). I wonder if BS is leaning towards Floyd for this epic matchup? If do, I am looking forward to the posts and dialogue from you guys as we head into Pacquaio V Floyd. Love it !!!


-stormcentre :

Money May and Pops Joy May called Tony Weeks everything but the child of God after Weeks refereed Lil Floyd's almost-a-lost fight against Marcos Maidana. Among his in-group peeps, Big Floyd called Weeks a jealous ____ ____ _____ N-word working for "da white man to stop my son from breaking Rocky Marciano's record!" C'mon B-Sug, you know what time it is. White and black Amerkanos talk ethnic-sensitive syet behind each others' backs. You guys -- I'm not saying that you are one of them -- say and do around Asians and Mexicans like we are some kind of humanoid pets or something. Also during the times that no pure Asians and Latins are around, ethnic-mean jive is spoken about us. See we know this, because our peeps who are mixed with white or black and can blend in tell us da whole nine. We got Mestizo spies -- who look pure black or white -- everywhere. Bottomline, this scrap between Money May and Da Manny is a race-and-ethnic-and-national-original-sensitive gitdown [sic]. And all you hypersensitive, politically right Yanks oughta stop. Call a spade a spade. And quit hiding in the shade. Racism has not gone away on the U.S. mainland and nowhere else. And pulling for your own ethnicity, homie or whatever ain't a bad thing. It is human nature to cheer for the person who you relate to or with. Ninety percent of Afro Amerkano are outside-group prejudice as heck. And about the same amount of whites are. Only about 10 percent of Filipinos are prejudice and racist arseholes, but we beat da double fudge syet outta of them whenever and wherever we find them. So they normally stay underground and outta sight and keep to themselves. We Pinoys and Chinoy and mestizos are all for loving and will mixed with anybody. Life is too short for dumbsyet hate. We are always and forever ready to get out freak on with LOVE from Russia -- I mean P-I. Hehehe! Holla!
Call me crazy, but I actually like the mock racism comments that flow around in our culture(s); so long as it really is genuinely mock-racism and designed for cultural and humorous purposes. Where would we be without it? In some ways it glues us together and normalizes our differences; seriously - it can. To me, if those that the comments are meant to insult (when in their serious and non-mocking form) are actually happy with them when the comments are released in their mocking form. . (for example . . most Amercian/African negroes I know {and don't get me wrong, I love them.. and have stolen many of their great smooth lines and moves} themselves call each other "my nigger") then - in the right context - (as far as I am concerned) they're OK and artistic. The key is making sure your audience knows you are being artistic, and always providing the benefit of the doubt of you're the target of the comment - as I have been many times. Another example can be found in that great movie with Bruce Willis in it where he corrects and tells his girlie that his (stolen) motorcycle is not a motorcycle, but a chopper. The part I am talking about is when Willis' character and another unfortunate Big Badass American negro dude (great actor but can't remember his real name) get trapped in the back of the gun shop with the shop's proprietor and another security guy (whom in real life is another great character actor also); whom both think it's time to play out some homosexual fantasies on Willis' character and the Big Badass American negro dude; "the victims". But . . . both victims break free after Willis' character busts up the security guard by surprise, and then, when the tables are reversed and both the gun-shop owner and the guard find themselves tied up, the Big Badass American negro dude says words similar to but explicitly the same as the ""nigger" bit . . . to the two previous guys that held him against his will and actually raped him; "Stay here motherpluckers as I am going to find me some hard nose
pipe hitting niggers that will come back and serve some justice". That line is beautifully artistic, and probably only acceptable because of who is saying it. "Pipe hitting niggers" (as a means of exacting the ultimate revenge) became a cult saying over here in Australia and no matter what color you were it was acceptable, and this is what I am talking about. Same for Columbian, Rican and Mexican cultures, sayings, and lines. I love the use of "Homie" in some dialog, but respect it can be out of place. Now you may think this is crazy, but I actually love boxing so much that I also love the dialog that goes with it some times. The bravado and smack talk in this sport is sometimes the stuff of movie scripts; even though sometimes it is real trash too. Like modern art, there is good and bad in it and the real art comes from thought and knowledge, as knowledge (more than some other attributes) is power. Toney is probably the best at bravado and smack talk in this sport; when understood. His verbal barrages to Rampage Jackson (and Rampages' returns) were brilliant. ""Go bak 2 ur masta Uncle Tom"" Floyd and family (particularly Roger) are not bad either. All up, for me, the rule of thumb is (if I am not directly involved) do they make me smile? Or, (if I am directly involved) is it cool and am I safe? :) Usually, I get away with it cause most that know me know I am (hardly) never personally serious. Now back to MMMNostRADAMus. If there is a bigger Pacquaio supporter and fan out there I don't know of him. You are the man in that category. And I am surprised that you let BrownSugar get away with even his (above) well thought and solid comments about Floyd, Floyd's confidence and sparring; to which I mostly agree with. (Not that BS {or you MMMNostRADAMus} can't hold his own in this forum, as you're both top dawgs around here). I wonder if BS is leaning towards Floyd for this epic matchup? If so, I am looking forward to the posts and dialogue from you guys as we head into Pacquaio V Floyd. Love it !!!