Not Looking Past Murray, But Team Golovkin Craves Cotto in NY

People are still waiting for the other shoe to drop.

A big damn shoe, too. Until #MoneyVsManny is a done deal, or pronounced DOA once again, big name matches and hitters stand on the sideline, twiddle their thumbs and hurry up and wait.

One of those waiters is Miguel Cotto (age 34; 39-4). He’s been out of the ring for real since last June, when he thoroughly manhandled a somewhat diminished Sergio Martinez at Madison Square Garden, sending the Argentine pugilist/specialist to a place to ponder whether he can or should be a prizefighter anymore.

Cotto took Martinez’ WBC middleweight belt on that summer night, and there are other folks who’d like a crack at snatching it from him. For instance, GennadyGolovkin (age 32, just two years younger than Cotto; 31-0).

The Kazakh wrecking ball, the baby-faced banger who is wired to deliver concussions, would dearly love to lure Cotto into the ring and enter into by far the most meaningful scrap of his eight year professional career.

Yes, yes, I know he has a booking, on Feb. 21, against the quite competent MartinMurray, who has given Felix Sturm and Sergio Martinez the business (draw, loss) in accruing a 29-1-1 record to this juncture. That clash takes place in Monte Carlo, and will be shown on HBO.

Only a fool looks past a seasoned and strong pugilist like the Brit Murray, and I have not found anyone on Team Golovkin to be that. The WBA and IBO and interim WBC champ Gennady, he just wants to test himself against the best. Same with trainer Abel Sanchez; he thinks the world of his human wrecking ball and wants to show the planet what he knows in his heart. Same for promoter Tom Loeffler. The low-key and gentlemanly dealmaker didn’t really want to get into what might be on Golovkins’ To Do list after Feb. 21. But he’d be deficient in duty if he didn’t have at least a shell of a longer term plan in place for the 33-in-April-year-old, who really should be elevating himself into the star stratosphere this year, if he can get that most meaningful gig in May, June, or soon thereafter.

I asked Loeffler if indeed Manny-Money gets done for May 2, and what with Canelo signing on to rumble with James Kirkland May 2, does that mean we’re that much more likely to see Golovkin scrap with Cotto, if GGG beats Murray?

“It’s possible, depending on when Cotto plans to fight,” Loeffler told me.

Low-key Loeffler almost bristled, lol, when I asked him if he’d reached out to Team Cotto about setting up a brouhaha.

“Michael, what kind of question is that? We have reached out to everyone, including Cotto, Carl Froch, Andy Lee, Mikkel Kessler, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Crickets!

“Cotto knows Gennady is his mandatory, and the WBC will enforce the mandatory after this next fight. I am sure Cotto will want one more payday before vacating the title, instead of fighting Triple G, nobody seriously thinks he will fight Gennady at 160,” Loeffler continued.

I’m not certain of that, myself, there are very few things I’m certain of, so I put the question to Team Cotto advisor Gaby Penagaricano, and emailed him a query, would Miguel be open to a scrap with Golovkin? I will insert the answer when it is supplied…

“Gennady is Cotto’s mandatory, they know know how to find us. Cotto will not fight us until he is forced to by the WBC,” Loeffler reiterated. “Gennady is ready and willing to fight Cotto in a unification fight if Cotto has no big name dance partner. It would sell out Madison Square Garden.”

Damn straight it would. That fight would be a legit Super Fight, and I will go out on a limb and say the action promised would and will blow the Floyd-Manny bout out of the water.

Loeffler offered some reasoning why Cotto should follow this route of logic.

“Cotto would make more fighting Triple G, because he is the ‘A side’ and we would be the ‘C side,’ as long as Cotto gets in the ring.”

Gosh, that seems like a quite reasonable stance and POV in terms of Team Golovkins’ reasonableness from a negotiating standpoint.

I can picture the Garden jammed to the point where the fire marshal is sweating….

What say you, fight fans? Does a Golovkin-Cotto scrap get your heart pulsating as it does mine? Weigh in, in our Forum.

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COMMENTS

-Pazuzu :

They might get their wish once Cotto gets left out in the cold after May-Pac is made. Cotto-GGG would be a monster fight and a legit PPV card. If I can't make it up to NYC for the fight, I'll pay good money to watch it at home.


-brownsugar :

They might get their wish once Cotto gets left out in the cold after May-Pac is made. Cotto-GGG would be a monster fight and a legit PPV card. If I can't make it up to NYC for the fight, I'll pay good money to watch it at home.
PPV worthy,.... Absolutely, Competitive,.... not very. Cotto's management knows better than to take this fight.


-Pazuzu :

Yeah, I know, but a fan's gotta dream...


-brownsugar :

Understood Pazuzu, dream on....... Cotto has so much credibility the majority of the press still believe the fight will eventually be made. Mainly because when Cotto's courage and integrity are questioned, he will march into the mouth of hell itself to show his courage and integrity in the face of insurmountable odds, But Cotto is older now, and quite a bit wiser. Hopefully he'll get to tangle with Canelo in 2015


-ultimoshogun :

PPV worthy,.... Absolutely, Competitive,.... not very. Cotto's management knows better than to take this fight.
I'm thinking Cotto wants no part of Triple G.


-Pazuzu :

Cotto is wiser. He didn't fall for Canelo's bait about the rivalry. He knows he has one or two big fights left, and a chance to cash out while he has the middleweight crown. Still, it will be interesting to see who he picks if May and Pac gets made. It won't be Golovkin. Andy Lee would be a decent fight and a good draw at MSG, and one that Cotto could certainly win. Then maybe he can get Canelo in September (assuming, of course, that Alvarez makes it past the Mandingo Warrior). I have immense respect for Cotto, and am looking forward his next fight, whoever the opponent is.


-King Beef :

I'm thinking Cotto wants no part of Triple G.
I gotta agree with you ultimo, Cotto will dance all around a GGG fight, although I would luv to see it.


-Carmine Cas :

I don't forsee Cotto fighting GGG next, unless he looks absolutely horrible against Murray. The thing is, HBO will put up the money for the fight; so as long as Cotto has the green belt it's going to be a prospective fight.


-amayseng :

Big fan of Cotto but GGG stops him in devestating fashion and Cotto knows this. Cotto can fight Floyd for big money and lose without taking a beating. That is what he will wait for. At this juncture in his career I can not fault him for it. Though I will not be pleased if it is made under 160


-stormcentre :

Big fan of Cotto but GGG stops him in devestating fashion and Cotto knows this. Cotto can fight Floyd for big money and lose without taking a beating. That is what he will wait for. At this juncture in his career I can not fault him for it. Though I will not be pleased if it is made under 160
Hard to disagree with that Amayseng. Hard to see Cotto wanting 3G as well - especially considering the way Roach has (over the last few years and up until only recently) pretended he didn't really know who Gennady was; despite him attending the WC gym and sparring. I think we all need to see Cotto in against Mayweather and/or another top guy to see what he has left, before he is matched up with a guy that can really hurt him when/if he makes mistakes. Murray is game and obviously getting paid for the risks. But, it's hard to see what's in Murray's; a) Experience: that will prepare him for the deceptively crafty approach Golovkin has. Things, or the view from outside the ring (that most of us have), almost always fail to convey the position (on the horizontal plane) 3G has when he starts to take guys apart, and that's an "in addition" consideration to how the guy punches. b) Abilities: that will (seriously and/or apart from a few fleeting moment here/there) challenge 3G. Yes, it's hard to fault Cotto at this stage of his career for taking slightly easier fights. After all, the guy has been a warrior for a long time and hardly ducked anyone. Now, it's almost time for him to rest.


-The Commish :

For Miguel Cotto, facing Sergio Martinez was a no-brainer. "I knew I could beat him so we pushed hard for the fight," Cotto told me on my SiriusXM show days after the fight. When I asked him if part of the reason he felt that way was because of all the injuries Martinez was nursing, Cotto just smiled and said, "Everything was taken into consideration." Going into the fight, he knew he was facing damaged goods. Coming out as champion, there was really only one fight he wanted, there was only one fight which made sense to him. It was all about Money. Money Mayweather and how much money he could make putting his title on the line against the man who had beaten him before. No fight would pay Cotto as much. He knew he could make good money facing GGG. But, put yourself in Cotto's place. If you had a choice to defend against Mayweather or GGG, which man would you face? It's simple. The decision is Mayweather. You'll lose, but you won't your face won't be re-arranged, you won't be separated from your senses and you'll make far more money. You may even land a few good shots of your own and give yourself--and your army of fans--hope that the fight is winnable. GGG or Mayweather. The choice for Cotto was simple. He'd go after Mayweather. Cotto figured his selling point was the Middleweight Title he held. For that, to give Mayweather a chance to win yet another major title, would be worth a lot of money. Going after Mayweather was a no-brainer for Cotto. However, as talks began to heat up and become reality for a Mayweather-Pacquiao bout, Cotto has had to look elsewhere. The choices are not appetizing. The biggest of those non-appetizing bouts is GGG. At MSG. Packed house. Fantastic payday. But a dreadful beatdown. Cotto is NOT a middleweight. GGG is. Cotto would get hit hard. And often. The normally raucous Cotto crowd would be silenced, sitting like a still-life watercolor painting. For them and their hero, the fight would not be pretty. A fight against Mayweather made sense. A fight against GGG is as close to suicide as one can get. Perhaps Cotto can take an over-the-weight mom-title fight just to stay busy, then await the winner of Mayweather-Pacquiao. In either case, his title would be on the line and he'll make his career-biggest payday. If it's Mayweather, who will go into a fight against Cotto at 48-0 provided he beats Pacquiao, the fight will be phenomenally huge. A fight against Pac-Man, though while not as huge as one against Mayweather, will still be bigger than anything Cotto can take now. Cotto is going to have to do some heavy thinking over the next few weeks. Does he wait it out and go for the Mayweather-Pacquiao winner, does unify the title against GGG, or does he face someone else, either in a non-title affair or one in which his 160-pound belt is on the line? Life is all about making choices. We await the result of what choice Miguel Cotto makes. -Randy G.


-ultimoshogun :

For Miguel Cotto, facing Sergio Martinez was a no-brainer. "I knew I could beat him so we pushed hard for the fight," Cotto told me on my SiriusXM show days after the fight. When I asked him if part of the reason he felt that way was because of all the injuries Martinez was nursing, Cotto just smiled and said, "Everything was taken into consideration." Going into the fight, he knew he was facing damaged goods. Coming out as champion, there was really only one fight he wanted, there was only one fight which made sense to him. It was all about Money. Money Mayweather and how much money he could make putting his title on the line against the man who had beaten him before. No fight would pay Cotto as much. He knew he could make good money facing GGG. But, put yourself in Cotto's place. If you had a choice to defend against Mayweather or GGG, which man would you face? It's simple. The decision is Mayweather. You'll lose, but you won't your face won't be re-arranged, you won't be separated from your senses and you'll make far more money. You may even land a few good shots of your own and give yourself--and your army of fans--hope that the fight is winnable. GGG or Mayweather. The choice for Cotto was simple. He'd go after Mayweather. Cotto figured his selling point was the Middleweight Title he held. For that, to give Mayweather a chance to win yet another major title, would be worth a lot of money. Going after Mayweather was a no-brainer for Cotto. However, as talks began to heat up and become reality for a Mayweather-Pacquiao bout, Cotto has had to look elsewhere. The choices are not appetizing. The biggest of those non-appetizing bouts is GGG. At MSG. Packed house. Fantastic payday. But a dreadful beatdown. Cotto is NOT a middleweight. GGG is. Cotto would get hit hard. And often. The normally raucous Cotto crowd would be silenced, sitting like a still-life watercolor painting. For them and their hero, the fight would not be pretty. A fight against Mayweather made sense. A fight against GGG is as close to suicide as one can get. Perhaps Cotto can take an over-the-weight mom-title fight just to stay busy, then await the winner of Mayweather-Pacquiao. In either case, his title would be on the line and he'll make his career-biggest payday. If it's Mayweather, who will go into a fight against Cotto at 48-0 provided he beats Pacquiao, the fight will be phenomenally huge. A fight against Pac-Man, though while not as huge as one against Mayweather, will still be bigger than anything Cotto can take now. Cotto is going to have to do some heavy thinking over the next few weeks. Does he wait it out and go for the Mayweather-Pacquiao winner, does unify the title against GGG, or does he face someone else, either in a non-title affair or one in which his 160-pound belt is on the line? Life is all about making choices. We await the result of what choice Miguell Cotto makes. -Randy G.
For Cotto, in my opinion a fight with Canelo made alotta sense. What was the reason for that fight falling through?


-Froggy :

I'm thinking Cotto wants no part of Triple G.
I'm thinking the same thing, plus I'm quite sure Freddy Roach doesn't want to see Cotto in the ring with GGG !


-stormcentre :

For Miguel Cotto, facing Sergio Martinez was a no-brainer. "I knew I could beat him so we pushed hard for the fight," Cotto told me on my SiriusXM show days after the fight. When I asked him if part of the reason he felt that way was because of all the injuries Martinez was nursing, Cotto just smiled and said, "Everything was taken into consideration." Going into the fight, he knew he was facing damaged goods. Coming out as champion, there was really only one fight he wanted, there was only one fight which made sense to him. It was all about Money. Money Mayweather and how much money he could make putting his title on the line against the man who had beaten him before. No fight would pay Cotto as much. He knew he could make good money facing GGG. But, put yourself in Cotto's place. If you had a choice to defend against Mayweather or GGG, which man would you face? It's simple. The decision is Mayweather. You'll lose, but you won't your face won't be re-arranged, you won't be separated from your senses and you'll make far more money. You may even land a few good shots of your own and give yourself--and your army of fans--hope that the fight is winnable. GGG or Mayweather. The choice for Cotto was simple. He'd go after Mayweather. Cotto figured his selling point was the Middleweight Title he held. For that, to give Mayweather a chance to win yet another major title, would be worth a lot of money. Going after Mayweather was a no-brainer for Cotto. However, as talks began to heat up and become reality for a Mayweather-Pacquiao bout, Cotto has had to look elsewhere. The choices are not appetizing. The biggest of those non-appetizing bouts is GGG. At MSG. Packed house. Fantastic payday. But a dreadful beatdown. Cotto is NOT a middleweight. GGG is. Cotto would get hit hard. And often. The normally raucous Cotto crowd would be silenced, sitting like a still-life watercolor painting. For them and their hero, the fight would not be pretty. A fight against Mayweather made sense. A fight against GGG is as close to suicide as one can get. Perhaps Cotto can take an over-the-weight mom-title fight just to stay busy, then await the winner of Mayweather-Pacquiao. In either case, his title would be on the line and he'll make his career-biggest payday. If it's Mayweather, who will go into a fight against Cotto at 48-0 provided he beats Pacquiao, the fight will be phenomenally huge. A fight against Pac-Man, though while not as huge as one against Mayweather, will still be bigger than anything Cotto can take now. Cotto is going to have to do some heavy thinking over the next few weeks. Does he wait it out and go for the Mayweather-Pacquiao winner, does unify the title against GGG, or does he face someone else, either in a non-title affair or one in which his 160-pound belt is on the line? Life is all about making choices. We await the result of what choice Miguell Cotto makes. -Randy G.
No need for me to think of my next post for this thread now - it's all there in what you have said.


-amayseng :

For Cotto, in my opinion a fight with Canelo made alotta sense. What was the reason for that fight falling through?
The only thing I can gather is that he would rather take the Floyd fight, make much more money and deal with someone familiar not a young lion.


-The Commish :

The only thing I can gather is that he would rather take the Floyd fight, make much more money and deal with someone familiar not a young lion.
Absolutely true. Again, put yourself in Cotto's place. Every fighter knows his/or her limitations. There are fighters they will gladly fight and fighters they'd prefer staying away from. Maximize the profit, minimize the risk. $$$Mayweather is by far and away the best deal for Cotto. Everything else is a distant Plan B. -Randy G.


-The Good Doctor :

Absolutely true. Again, put yourself in Cotto's place. Every fighter knows his/or her limitations. There are fighters they will gladly fight and fighters they'd prefer staying away from. Maximize the profit, minimize the risk. $$$Mayweather is by far and away the best deal for Cotto. Everything else is a distant Plan B. -Randy G.
Agree with you guys statements above. I also think in Cotto's mind that he can beat Floyd this time around. It would not surprise me if he thought that at a time that I was less conditioned, not as well trained, and not at as prepared, I gave Floyd a competitive fight. This time around, I think my chances are much better including the fact that Floyd has deteriorated some. If he is thinking that, it really isn't that far fetched but I would still pick Money.


-Pazuzu :

Very surprising to hear Bernstein's comment tonight on Monday Night at the Fights that Cotto's camp is in talks with Golovkin's people. We can only hope it is true and the fight comes to pass. The match up has the potential to be a great middleweight war, one for the ages.