Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: The Time Is Nearing

Mayweather-Pacquiao

You've read all the ballyhoo on the Internet and it's been profoundly repeated over and over how the parties representing Floyd Mayweather 47-0 (26) and Manny Pacquiao 57-5-2 (38) are talking more and more. And though everyone has plausible reasons to be skeptical about the fight actually coming to fruition, rest assured, it's getting closer. As I've been saying for the last six years, the fight was always going to happen. There was no way Mayweather was going to walk away from boxing without meeting the only fighter of his era that boxing fans really ever wanted to see him fight.

Floyd never lost sight of the fact that retiring undefeated and not facing Pacquiao would be like having an asterisk next to his record. He also grasped when Pacquiao originally showed up on his radar, that he had the size, reach and style to handle Pacquiao and that the longer he stalled the fight the better it would be for him and the greater his chances of winning would be. Mayweather understood that high volume punching aggressive fighters always burn out physically and use themselves up at an earlier age than do “boxers” or “technicians” like him.

Add to the equation that since 2009, Mayweather is 8-0 and Pacquiao is 9-2. Not only has Manny officially lost twice, but he was knocked out cold for over a minute by Juan Manuel Marquez, three years after Mayweather pulled a fast one on the scale and then went out and beat Marquez 12 out of 12 rounds. The loss by Pacquiao to Marquez in their last fight in the devastating fashion in which it happened has totally pushed Mayweather into being the “A” size of the promotion. It's not the disputed loss to Timothy Bradley that set Manny back, it's winning a controversial decision over Marquez in their third fight and then being obliterated by him in their fourth fight, a fight he was in total control of before Marquez put him to sleep with a counter-right hand at the end of round six. And it was that punch from Marquez that boosted Mayweather into the pole position regarding who will set the terms and conditions of the fight during the negotiations.

And you better believe that in order for the fight to become a reality, team Mayweather will force team Pacquiao to consent on every faux demand that Floyd wants or there will be no fight. The fight, because of the deal that will finally be agreed upon, will have the outcome tilted in Mayweather's favor, on that you can bet your life. And for that reason, along with Mayweather's advantage in size and style, the outcome is not in question for me. Mayweather will beat Pacquiao and it won't be a terribly exciting fight, and I'll commit blasphemy right here and declare that it won't even be Mayweather's toughest fight.

Now that I have the easy prediction out of the way, here's the reason why those of you who really think this fight is a big deal can finally get excited…..and that is the time for it is nearing. And the reason for that is, neither Floyd nor Manny have anywhere else to go where the risk-reward works in their favor.

Realistically, who is left for Mayweather to fight where he actually has something to gain without a monumental risk? Nobody cares about a fight between Mayweather and Keith Thurman, Kell Brook or Amir Khan. The only fighter aside from Pacquiao that fans would get excited about Mayweather fighting is Gennady Golovkin. And you know what, there's a better chance of Floyd fighting Wladimir Klitschko than Golovkin, and that's because no one would expect him to beat Klitschko like they may believe he beats Golovkin.

As for Pacquiao, who is out there for him to fight with the exception of Adrien Broner, if not Mayweather? Sure, Pacquiao and Alvarez would be a huge draw, but if Canelo beats Manny up, then who would care about him fighting Mayweather after that? Answer..nobody.

The time has finally arrived where neither Mayweather nor Pacquiao have another viable opponent for them to fight that makes as much dollars or sense as them fighting each other. If you think about it, they're both desperate, because their PPV numbers are falling and slowly but surely the ‘fool me every time’ public is becoming fed up with the games and subterfuge of delaying the fight. And with both Floyd, who is about to turn 38, and Pacquiao, who just turned 36, the urgency to get the thing done is gaining momentum.

Mayweather-Pacquiao is a fight that should've happened during the spring of 2010, almost five years ago. Back then, I thought Mayweather would probably win had the fight happened, but I wasn't without a little doubt. Today, I'm certain of the outcome because Floyd always had the size, reach, style and temperament to handle Manny. However, it is Pacquiao who has declined more and is now too easy to hit. This is something Mayweather was counting on to occur as far back as 2009. And for those reasons the fight is an easy call for me.

I'm sure there are many who will disagree with me on who holds the style advantage. Those who hold those opinions will say Floyd's legs are gone and that Manny has the more judge friendly style. And to that I say, that's not how it will unfold once they climb into the ring. But that's an argument for another day that everyone can weigh in on with what they think…..And that's a debate I'll relish when the time comes.

Until then, if you really need to witness Mayweather-Pacquiao so your life can be complete, rest assured the reality as I've said it would all along, is nearing. And the reason you can count on the fight being close to happening within the next year at the latest is because they have both run out of opponents to fight who they can gouge the public to pay for. Now they both need each other. Yes, Manny needs Floyd more than the reverse, but Floyd still needs to fight Manny to avoid retiring with an asterisk next to his final career record.

Think of it this way…you've waited since 2009 to see Mayweather and Pacquiao fight each other. At the worst you only have another year to wait. After waiting five years, those who care about seeing the fight should be able to wait another year, if they have to, standing on their head. And if you get weak and begin to doubt that it's going to happen, just keep reminding yourself neither Floyd nor Manny have any other opponents left to fight that the boxing public cares about.

Frank Lotierzo can be contacted at GlovedFist@Gmail.com

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-amayseng :

Is Floyd really the A side? I would much rather watch Pac than Floyd fight, he is much more exciting.


-brownsugar :

Being a big fan of avocadoes I try to by at least a five days supply at a time. I buy them green and ultra firm but never any more than 5 or 6 at a time because its hard to when they're going to get ripe and you don't want them all to become ripe on the same day. From what I can see Manny has the benefit of being the fresher avocado while Floyd is already fully ripe. Within a year or less Floyd could become very "soft". I'm really not sure if his expiration date will occur before or after the date they finally fight. Floyd was very fresh during his bout with Canelo....his last great performance, but he looked like he couldn't wait to exit the ring in his most previous fight against Maidana. I don't think Floyd can be considered the automatic favorite against the more youthful Pacquioa.


-King Beef :

Being a big fan of avocadoes I try to by at least a five days supply at a time. I buy them green and ultra firm but never any more than 5 or 6 at a time because its hard to when they're going to get ripe and you don't want them all to become ripe on the same day. From what I can see Manny has the benefit of being the fresher avocado while Floyd is already fully ripe. Within a year or less Floyd could become very "soft". I'm really not sure if his expiration date will occur before or after the date they finally fight. Floyd was very fresh during his bout with Canelo....his last great performance, but he looked like he couldn't wait to exit the ring in his most previous fight against Maidana. I don't think Floyd can be considered the automatic favorite against the more youthful Pacquioa.
B-Sug, I have always leaned toward Mayweather if they ever fought, but lately I am thinking it is more of a toss up. I am trying hard not to go by most recent performances but Money's fights with Maidana, he didn't look like he wanted to be there, and did look like he aged and declined more than Pac, which can be misleading, due to the fact that Maidana was on some " by any means necessary" ish. and Algieri posed no real threat. If they do ever get it on, (which I still am not getting my hopes up) there should be some type of resolution. I get the funny feeling the fight has all the makings of a huge let down, whether it be a boring decision, or 1 sided sparring match; due to the years of waiting and hype....I will be front and center though!


-stormcentre :

Is Floyd really the A side? I would much rather watch Pac than Floyd fight, he is much more exciting.
Regardless of who is better - Yep . . . no doubt. Floyd is the "A" side. I (could be wrong but) doubt whether even RG could mount a reasonable argument to say otherwise.


-stormcentre :

Being a big fan of avocadoes I try to by at least a five days supply at a time. I buy them green and ultra firm but never any more than 5 or 6 at a time because its hard to when they're going to get ripe and you don't want them all to become ripe on the same day. From what I can see Manny has the benefit of being the fresher avocado while Floyd is already fully ripe. Within a year or less Floyd could become very "soft". I'm really not sure if his expiration date will occur before or after the date they finally fight. Floyd was very fresh during his bout with Canelo....his last great performance, but he looked like he couldn't wait to exit the ring in his most previous fight against Maidana. I don't think Floyd can be considered the automatic favorite against the more youthful Pacquioa.
Yes, good stuff BS. I wonder also whether Floyd - as he went in with Maidana both times - was preoccupied with his other controversial matters. They were not insignificant issues that didn't reverberate through his whole; gym, posse, ho's, family and other walks of life. Add to that he was facing a guy that (even the wild unpredictable goofy punches aside) probably represented one of the few variants of orthodox fighters that threw right hands the shoulder roll couldn't easy defend and retaliate from. Check how Ernie Shavers used to walk up and throw a similar right hand to others before Floyd that used to use the shoulder roll. On several occasions Shavers just dropped them clean as a result of both the overhead aspect of the punch, and of course Shaver's freakish power.


-brownsugar :

Yes, good stuff BS. I wonder also whether Floyd - as he went in with Maidana both times - was preoccupied with his other controversial matters. They were not insignificant issues that didn't reverberate through his whole; gym, posse, ho's, family and other walks of life. Add to that he was facing a guy that (even the wild unpredictable goofy punches aside) probably represented one of the few variants of orthodox fighters that threw right hands the shoulder roll couldn't easy defend and retaliate from. Check how Ernie Shavers used to walk up and throw a similar right hand to others before Floyd that used to use the shoulder roll. On several occasions Shavers just dropped them clean as a result of both the overhead aspect of the punch, and of course Shaver's freakish power.
Storm...King Beef...you make a valid point,.........maybe it was the awkward demonically driven efforts of Maidana that made Floyd look old... or maybe Floyd had a senior moment. Its getting hard to tell anymore. Hopefully we'll get the fight in 2015 or else May weather vs Pac becomes as insignificant as the second and third Leonard vs Hearns fights.


-stormcentre :

Unless you have enough single shot power to make these guys think twice, before rushing in with their awkward punches; guys like Maidana are hard to fight/box. You just don't see enough of that style in the gym and competition to get familiar with it. And because they're so awkward they're never usually where you want them to be to time them, plus the risk is greater doing that cause the confidence to it comes from being reasonably comfortable with what you think there options are and what's possibly coming back. Not so with awkward crazy lunatic styles like Maidana's - as he's throwing from every angle, plane and height. Now back to the power bit (as Floyd didn't have enough to blow out Maidana and earn respect; which perhaps makes his performance even better); imagine Maidana trying that bum-rush crazy approach with 3G - even at a catch weight. I bet you're smiling. Maidana wouldn't be.


-Skibbz :

Unless you have enough single shot power to make these guys think twice, before rushing in with their awkward punches; guys like Maidana are hard to fight/box. You just don't see enough of that style in the gym and competition to get familiar with it. And because they're so awkward they're never usually where you want them to be to time them, plus the risk is greater doing that cause the confidence to it comes from being reasonably comfortable with what you think there options are and what's possibly coming back. Not so with awkward crazy lunatic styles like Maidana's - as he's throwing from every angle, plane and height. Now back to the power bit (as Floyd didn't have enough to blow out Maidana and earn respect; which perhaps makes his performance even better); imagine Maidana trying that bum-rush crazy approach with 3G - even at a catch weight. I bet you're smiling. Maidana wouldn't be.
I disagree Storm I expected Floyd to be able to work on Maidana much better than he did. In the second fight I expected Floyd to have cracked the nut and had it his way for 12 rounds. Floyd wasn't the same Floyd that beat Hatton, where were those short shots and left hook that did so much damage to Hatton over the course of their fight? Floyd was getting hit by jabs from Maidana, I've always been taught that if you can hit your opponent with a jab you can hit him how you like, and that doesn't bode well for Mayweather. He even did a little dance at the end of the one of the rounds! I think Brownsugar said it well, Floyd's avocado is ripe and will soon start to over ripen if it hasn't already.


-stormcentre :

I disagree Storm I expected Floyd to be able to work on Maidana much better than he did. In the second fight I expected Floyd to have cracked the nut and had it his way for 12 rounds. Floyd wasn't the same Floyd that beat Hatton, where were those short shots and left hook that did so much damage to Hatton over the course of their fight? Floyd was getting hit by jabs from Maidana, I've always been taught that if you can hit your opponent with a jab you can hit him how you like, and that doesn't bode well for Mayweather. He even did a little dance at the end of the one of the rounds! I think Brownsugar said it well, Floyd's avocado is ripe and will soon start to over ripen if it hasn't already.
At the risk of being labelled antagonistic; I think you're really agreeing with me to tell you the truth. My above post was really only a portion of the story. Yes, I expected Floyd to deal with Maidana the second time better than he did - but have you ever gone into a big fight after a major dustup with your partner - one that could have a serious impact on your life? Then add the legal issues? Boxing is, mostly mental, and as such you need all the external factors in your life to be in harmony to perform your best. There's no doubt Floyd is getting older - who isn't - but fighting a guy like Maidana the second time and just when Miss Jackson let go off what she did . . . well, no experienced fighter can tell me that won't change your performance. And it's funny you mention Floyd's performance against Hatton - as (without a lie) I just finished watching that fight as I read your post. Very clever fight Floyd fought there. Pot shotted Hatton early up, then tied him up when Ricky came/collapsed inward; for the first 5 or 6 rounds - whilst Hatton's neat/fast (combined feet and hand) speed was the most dangerous. But Hatton's downfall was his temper, lack of head movement and how he smothered himself when he did get Floyd in close. And, of course how much he mouthed off about Floyd beforehand. So . . . when Hatton started to fall apart at the seams Floyd was there to step it up, start throwing combinations (Floyd didn't do this for almost the first half of the fight), and making Ricky pay. Yes the pot shots were still there. But overall Floyd could take Hatton out due to the above clever tactics, and of course - and this is where it both differs from Maidana and supports my previous claim you have taken issue with (which is cool by me) - because Floyd's shots had more effect on Ricky because - unlike Maidana - when he fought Floyd he was not only not really a natural welterweight - but was too small. And just as these are the reasons Hatton's downfall against Floyd came swift and sure as soon as he started to come apart at the seems - they are also the reasons why the same didn't happen to Maidana once he became ragged. As stated above - if you're without the power to make guys like Maidana respect you - as Floyd was - then you are destined to fight their fight. Of course, if Floyd was younger, he may have fared better. But, as a welterweight against natural welterweights and/or guys that have fully adjusted to the welterweight, he has never been a KO artist. Thanks for your comments.


-SouthPaul :

These Pacquaio, Mayweather headlines and articles have become boxings most laziest pieces to scribe. And that's not some personal jab at Frank. It's just one mind numbing topic that makes this boxing fan want to puke.


-brownsugar :

These Pacquaio, Mayweather headlines and articles have become boxings most laziest pieces to scribe. And that's not some personal jab at Frank. It's just one mind numbing topic that makes this boxing fan want to puke.
Agreed SP....if its not done in the next two weeks let's dig a deep grave for the super fight that never was and spill some champayne for the biggest disappointment in the history of boxing and move on.


-amayseng :

Agreed SP....if its not done in the next two weeks let's dig a deep grave for the super fight that never was and spill some champayne for the biggest disappointment in the history of boxing and move on.
I refuse to get my hopes up or buy into any of this hype for the sake of my own disappointment and sanity. When Floyd did the Showtime interview a few weeks ago he did NOT sound like a man on a journey to get this fight made. Instead he was finding excuses for it not to, like the one about having Showtime be the only one to carry the PPV, are you freaking kidding me? Why the hell would anyone, especially a man who calls himself "Money", and is as superficial and materialistic as he is, cares who runs the PPV when he is getting 100's of millions of dollars to fight a fight 5 years past it's prime date? That is absurd, and I am not buying into the BS. If Floyd can not price himself out then he will want a ring 45', 10 oz pillow gloves and Pac to wear ankle weights with his shoe strings tied together...


-Scar :

I refuse to get my hopes up or buy into any of this hype for the sake of my own disappointment and sanity.
Likewise. I'll just completely ignore all the typical nonsense rumors till I see both successfully making weight at the weigh-in, only then I'll buy the PPV.


-stormcentre :

At the risk of being labelled antagonistic; I think you're really agreeing with me to tell you the truth. My above post was really only a portion of the story. Yes, I expected Floyd to deal with Maidana the second time better than he did - but have you ever gone into a big fight after a major dustup with your partner - one that could have a serious impact on your life? Then add the legal issues? Boxing is, mostly mental, and as such you need all the external factors in your life to be in harmony to perform your best. There's no doubt Floyd is getting older - who isn't - but fighting a guy lie Maidana the second time and just when Miss Jackson let go off what she did . . . well, no experienced fighter can tell me that won't change your performance. And it's funny you mention Floyd's performance against Hatton - as (without a lie) I just finished watching that fight as I read your post. Very clever fight Floyd fought there. Pot shotted Hatton early up, then tied him up when Ricky came/collapsed inward; for the first 5 or 6 rounds - whilst Hatton's neat/fast (combined feet and hand) speed was the most dangerous. But Hatton's downfall was his temper, lack of head movement and how he smothered himself when he did get Floyd in close. And, of course how much he mouthed off about Floyd beforehand. So . . . when Hatton started to fall apart at the seams Floyd was there to step it up, start throwing combinations (Floyd didn't do this for almost the first half of the fight), and making Ricky pay. Yes the pot shots were still there. But overall Floyd could take Hatton out due to the above clever tactics, and of course - and this is where it both differs from Maidana and supports my previous claim you have taken issue with (which is cool by me) - because Floyd's shots had more effect on Ricky because - unlike Maidana - when he fought Floyd he was not only not really a natural welterweight - but was too small. And just as these are the reasons Hatton's downfall against Floyd came swift and sure as soon as he started to come apart at the seems - they are also the reasons why the same didn't happen to Maidana once he became ragged. As stated above - if you're without the power to make guys like Maidana respect you - as Floyd was - then you are destined to fight their fight. Of course, if Floyd was younger, he may have fared better. But, as a welterweight against natural welterweights and/or guys that have fully adjusted to the welterweight, he has never been a KO artist. Thanks for your comments.
Actually, even that above post was only a portion of the story. I should have added to what was Hatton's downfall and also a contrast with Maidana; the following points a) Hatton had almost no defence - I mean none. Many times in the Mayweather V Hatton fight (particularly in the preceding rounds to when Floyd actually deflowered Ricky) you can see Floyd just smacking the imagination clean out of Ricky's scone, and on those occasions there is no need to ask "gee how did Floyd get that one in"; as Ricky's hands were often extended way out from his head/body and/or just not anywhere near where they needed to be. b) Maidana brought the right hand over the top (like Ernie Shavers used to - I wouldn't mind betting Robert and father Garcia, when constructing a game-plan, borrowed from how Shavers dealt with other slip, slide and shoulder roll technicians) which, both defeated Mayweather?s shoulder roll defence and made him slightly more apprehensive about opening up and taking chances. Furthermore, Maidana was not just a straight up star picket as he came in like Ricky. Maidana got down low and in other positions that meant a lot of the leads and counters Floyd would instinctively throw, couldn't just be let out of the traps without a serious thought; as they usually are. Finally, Maidana had a means to get in (close) without paying a "cover charge", and that means was one of the best ways to deal with a guy like Floyd. Feints. In addition to my above posts about this; Ricky did none of this and that's why Floyd scored one of his rare KO wins in the higher weights. And as much as RG will probably try and kick my butt for saying so; I would also go as far as to say that Floyd's theft of Hatton's in-ring virginity meant that when Pacquaio fought him not only was Ricky without his aura of invincibility - but the blueprint on Hatton's vulnerabilities and limitations where laid bare. By the way, I really loved and do love Hatton. Complete fighter and tear away from Manchester England where they make em real tough. However, boxing is a tough sport. And when you have no defence and minimal experience on the truly elite stage and seriously call out and ridicule a guy like Mayweather (who himself has more, angles than a geometry set and elite boxing experience than most single digit gathered groups of modern day champions) before you step up to welterweight (where you have struggled before) and fight him; sometimes there is a cutoff point to which your mouth writes cheques that your azz can't cash. (No slight on you Skibbz; just word-smithing) And on the night Hatton fought Mayweather (to borrow a phrase from Uncle Roger), after a few rounds of adjustment, Floyd and his game-plan toyed with, whooped, and taxed that azz. Not so with Maidana for all the above reasons. Of course this is just my opinion, and as always I respect yours.


-stormcentre :

At the risk of being labelled antagonistic; I think you're really agreeing with me to tell you the truth. My above post was really only a portion of the story. Yes, I expected Floyd to deal with Maidana the second time better than he did - but have you ever gone into a big fight after a major dustup with your partner - one that could have a serious impact on your life? Then add the legal issues? Boxing is, mostly mental, and as such you need all the external factors in your life to be in harmony to perform your best. There's no doubt Floyd is getting older - who isn't - but fighting a guy lie Maidana the second time and just when Miss Jackson let go off what she did . . . well, no experienced fighter can tell me that won't change your performance. And it's funny you mention Floyd's performance against Hatton - as (without a lie) I just finished watching that fight as I read your post. Very clever fight Floyd fought there. Pot shotted Hatton early up, then tied him up when Ricky came/collapsed inward; for the first 5 or 6 rounds - whilst Hatton's neat/fast (combined feet and hand) speed was the most dangerous. But Hatton's downfall was his temper, lack of head movement and how he smothered himself when he did get Floyd in close. And, of course how much he mouthed off about Floyd beforehand. So . . . when Hatton started to fall apart at the seams Floyd was there to step it up, start throwing combinations (Floyd didn't do this for almost the first half of the fight), and making Ricky pay. Yes the pot shots were still there. But overall Floyd could take Hatton out due to the above clever tactics, and of course - and this is where it both differs from Maidana and supports my previous claim you have taken issue with (which is cool by me) - because Floyd's shots had more effect on Ricky because - unlike Maidana - when he fought Floyd he was not only not really a natural welterweight - but was too small. And just as these are the reasons Hatton's downfall against Floyd came swift and sure as soon as he started to come apart at the seems - they are also the reasons why the same didn't happen to Maidana once he became ragged. As stated above - if you're without the power to make guys like Maidana respect you - as Floyd was - then you are destined to fight their fight. Of course, if Floyd was younger, he may have fared better. But, as a welterweight against natural welterweights and/or guys that have fully adjusted to the welterweight, he has never been a KO artist. Thanks for your comments.
Actually, even that above post was only a portion of the story. I should have added to what was Hatton's downfall and also a contrast with Maidana; the following points a) Hatton had almost no defence - I mean none. Many times in the Mayweather V Hatton fight (particularly in the preceding rounds to when Floyd actually deflowered Ricky) you can see Floyd just smacking the imagination clean out of Ricky's scone, and on those occasions there is no need to ask "gee how did Floyd get that one in"; as Ricky's hands were often extended way out from his head/body and/or just not anywhere near where they needed to be. b) Maidana brought the right hand over the top (like Ernie Shavers used to - I wouldn't mind betting Robert and father Garcia, when constructing a game-plan, borrowed from how Shavers dealt with other slip, slide and shoulder roll technicians) which, both defeated Mayweather’s shoulder roll defence and made him slightly more apprehensive about opening up and taking chances. Furthermore, Maidana was not just a straight up star picket as he came in like Ricky. Maidana got down low and in other positions that meant a lot of the leads and counters Floyd would instinctively throw, couldn't just be let out of the traps without a serious thought; as they usually are. Finally, Maidana had a means to get in (close) without paying a "cover charge", and that means was one of the best ways to deal with a guy like Floyd. Feints. In addition to my above posts about this; Ricky did none of this and that's why Floyd scored one of his rare KO wins in the higher weights. And as much as RG will probably try and kick my butt for saying so; I would also go as far as to say that Floyd's theft of Hatton's in-ring virginity meant that when Pacquaio fought him not only was Ricky without his aura of invincibility - but the blueprint on Hatton's vulnerabilities and limitations where laid bare. By the way, I really loved and do love Hatton. Complete fighter (if not slick boxer) and tear away from Manchester England where they make em real tough. However, boxing is a tough sport. And when you have no defence and minimal experience on the truly elite stage and seriously call out and ridicule a guy like Mayweather (who himself has more, angles than a geometry set and elite boxing experience than most single digit gathered groups of modern day champions) before you step up to welterweight (where you have struggled before) and fight him; sometimes there is a cutoff point to which your mouth writes cheques that your azz can't cash. (No slight on you Skibbz; just word-smithing) And on the night Hatton fought Mayweather (to borrow a phrase from Uncle Roger), after a few rounds of adjustment, Floyd and his game-plan toyed with, whooped, and taxed that azz. Not so with Maidana for all the above reasons. Of course this is just my opinion, and as always I respect yours.


-The Good Doctor :

These Pacquaio, Mayweather headlines and articles have become boxings most laziest pieces to scribe. And that's not some personal jab at Frank. It's just one mind numbing topic that makes this boxing fan want to puke.
You hit it on the head there. Anytime you see "sources", "people close to the situation", or "associates" followed by no fact based writing, it is just a bunch of conjecture at best. I have yet to see any real timetables, any real details, or even someone involved saying that this is what was officially offered. We are no closer now than we have been over the last 5 years. Call me when the ink is dry.


-Radam G :

YUP! Lil' Floyd is the A-side fighter. When Da Manny drop him, Money May's @$$-side will be the first thing to hit the canvas, then his darn cranium. Da Manny is going to drop dat TBE ducker in sections. It will be some beautiful violence and the knockout of the year. Holla!


-Radam G :

I just heard and read the craziest story coming from the United Kingdom as to why Money May is now in a rush to dance with Da Manny. According to the copy, it has a lot to do ex-heavyweight champion Hisham Rahman's son being held against their wills by TMT. Imma wait to see how this latest bizarre story develops. Holla!


-ericfarrell85 :

Am I the only one that finds it a little peculiar that ESPN is not reporting on any of these most recent updates to the Pac-May negotiations?


-stormcentre :

Am I the only one that finds it a little peculiar that ESPN is not reporting on any of these most recent updates to the Pac-May negotiations?
No, not really. Despite the fact that I detail (what I believe to be) the pros/cons of each guy's attributes (in a fantasy matchup sense); I rarely buy into the latest garb on when/whether they actually fight. As someone else here and perhaps above said; when the ink dries that's when the real fight is on. Not before. Perhaps ESPN feel the same way, and don't want to get too publicly excited; only to find out that the price they pay for doing so is going to fake-orgasm heaven. :)


-Domenic :

The only thing my money is on is this fight NOT and NEVER happening.


-Radam G :

The only thing my money is on is this fight NOT and NEVER happening.
You are close to losing what that money is on. And Money May is close to signing for a bout that he will get knocked da double fudge out in! Getting knocked out is in the Fam Mayweather's DNA. The pops, the uncles and a couple of cousins have all been knocked out in their careers. Against Da Manny, Money May will not disappoint them. He's going to go deep dark KTFO before five rounds. This picking-apart and raping Da Manny nonsense of Money May's groupies, fans, fan boys and his human punching-bag, chicken-wings stealing Big Nate is hoping nonsense. Judgement day is coming for TBE, so ev'ybodeee and dey momma can stop the "Pacquiao doesn't have a chance" pretense." Holla!


-stormcentre :

You are close to losing what that money is on. And Money May is close to signing for a bout that he will get knocked da double fudge out in! Getting knocked out is in the Fam Mayweather's DNA. The pops, the uncles and a couple of cousins have all been knocked out in their careers. Against Da Manny, Money May will not disappoint them. He's going to go deep dark KTFO before five rounds. This picking-apart and raping Da Manny nonsense of Money May's groupies, fans, fan boys and his human punching-bag, chicken-wings stealing Big Nate is hoping nonsense. Judgement day is coming for TBE, so ev'ybodeee and dey momma can stop the "Pacquiao doesn't have a chance" pretense." Holla!
You're a hard man to please aren't you? :) Have you no love for the Mayweather clan? Not even a bit for Floyd? Is he just a POS on the side of the bowl that survived an eternity of flushes and blind rack-addicted janitors?


-stormcentre :

You are close to losing what that money is on. And Money May is close to signing for a bout that he will get knocked da double fudge out in! Getting knocked out is in the Fam Mayweather's DNA. The pops, the uncles and a couple of cousins have all been knocked out in their careers. Against Da Manny, Money May will not disappoint them. He's going to go deep dark KTFO before five rounds. This picking-apart and raping Da Manny nonsense of Money May's groupies, fans, fan boys and his human punching-bag, chicken-wings stealing Big Nate is hoping nonsense. Judgement day is coming for TBE, so ev'ybodeee and dey momma can stop the "Pacquiao doesn't have a chance" pretense." Holla!
You're a hard man to please aren't you? :) Have you no love for the Mayweather clan? Not even a bit for Floyd? Is he just a POS on the side of the bowl that survived an eternity of flushes and blind crack-addicted late night janitors?


-oubobcat :

Let me say for the record that I do not believe this fight is going to happen. I think this is the ultimate publicity stunt but the true powers that be (Mayweather, Haymon and Arum) are not motivated to make this fight happen. If they were truly motivated to make this happen, well it would have happened a long time ago. Both sides are even beginning to play the game. Pacquiao's side leaked that their end is complete (not sure how that is the case if a contract has not been agreed upon by all sides). Mayweather's people were talking yesterday that its close. We have been there, done that. They are each now trying to set up the blame game. Wait and see... My personal thoughts. Haymon is a brilliant business man. As is Floyd. They are right now negotiating behind the scenes with Cotto and want to fight him on May 2nd. Why? Well for one its marketable and even more so if fought at a catchweight for Cotto's Middleweight Title (which is the lineal title and don't think for a second the marketing campaign wouldn't be all over that). Mayweather already beat Cotto once and we all know how Mayweather historically does in rematches as well. So in Mayweather's mind its an easily winnable fight that is marketable, will sell (more money) and will give him a piece of history. Just as important...what fight does HBO want badly to make this year? Well its Canelo-Cotto. So Haymon is thinking I can take Cotto out of that equation and take from HBO the biggest event it had planned for this year. Guess what else this does? HBO would certainly have a big time marketing campaign for the fight that would take attention away from what Haymon is doing on NBC. Well no fight, no advertising for the fight and the attention is not diverted away from Haymon's series. Mark my words, we see Mayweather-Cotto II on May 2nd.


-The Commish :

Being a big fan of avocadoes I try to by at least a five days supply at a time. I buy them green and ultra firm but never any more than 5 or 6 at a time because its hard to when they're going to get ripe and you don't want them all to become ripe on the same day. From what I can see Manny has the benefit of being the fresher avocado while Floyd is already fully ripe. Within a year or less Floyd could become very "soft". I'm really not sure if his expiration date will occur before or after the date they finally fight. Floyd was very fresh during his bout with Canelo....his last great performance, but he looked like he couldn't wait to exit the ring in his most previous fight against Maidana. I don't think Floyd can be considered the automatic favorite against the more youthful Pacquioa.
Hmm. I have long heard of opponents who have no shot at winning being called tomato cans and I've heard of getting hit either on the squash or in the onions or breadbasket, but I've never heard of fighters being compared to avocados. Any chance of the ripe Manny Pacquiao being turned into guacamole? -Randy G.


-brownsugar :

Hmm. I have long heard of opponents who have no shot at winning being called tomato cans and I've heard of getting hit either on the squash or in the onions or breadbasket, but I've never heard of fighters being compared to avocados. Any chance of the ripe Manny Pacquiao being turned into guacamole? -Randy G.
Lol...good one Commish, I think Floyd is more than just a live dog but I've seen a few vulnerabilities, But the possibility of Floyd serving Paq up on a soft flour tortilla with guacamole and a side dish of jalape?o poppers is always a possibility


-michigan400 :

If that happens, and I can easily imagine that happening, they will have outsmarted themselves IMO. What a bait and switch "D" move that would be. If all of the sudden there is a "poll" asking fans what they want to see, then we know something is fishy.


-Radam G :

You're a hard man to please aren't you? :) Have you no love for the Mayweather clan? Not even a bit for Floyd? Is he just a POS on the side of the bowl that survived an eternity of flushes and blind crack-addicted late night janitors?
I love me some Mayweather clan. But love is paradoxical and ambitious with that Fam. I no doubt have a real love-hate thing going on. Fam May is like the wind. You never know how or which direction one of them will blow. Their arses, they like to show. And than other times, they are good peeps. On this ride with Da Manny, they are illing. So with them, I cannot be chilling. After Da Manny wax Money May's arse, all will be back to normal -- nuffin' but luv. Holla!


-Radam G :

Hmm. I have long heard of opponents who have no shot at winning being called tomato cans and I've heard of getting hit either on the squash or in the onions or breadbasket, but I've never heard of fighters being compared to avocados. Any chance of the ripe Manny Pacquiao being turned into guacamole? -Randy G.
Wow! Hehehe! You got jokes. Da Manny will turn Money May into spare changes. And rain that guacamole on Money May's cranium like Money May rains Benjamins on those big booties of those working gals and thotties. Holla!