If No Floyd, What Next For Manny? Khan’s An Option, Says Roach

And what if a Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather fight doesn’t get made for May? What then? Who does The Congressman select for his next violent waltz?

I posed that query to Freddie Roach, in town for a Friday night fight with his welterweight, Chris Van Heerden, who scraps on the first Roc nation card at MSG Theatre, noting up front that there doesn’t seem to be much fan appetite for Pacquiao vs. Jesse Vargas match, as has been floated as a trial balloon.

Roach showed not half an ounce of enthusiasm for a Pacquiao-Vargas fight, but he did rule out one possible who he’d stated he’d love to see Pacman rumble with: Danny Garcia. The Philly based boxer, he said, isn’t in contention for a Pacman fight, in Roach’s view, because Roach reached out to an Al Haymon source, and was told that Al wouldn’t be inclined to allow a Pacquiao-Garcia scrap. “I hear I can’t get Danny Garcia,” said Roach. So…who then?

Amir Khan is a superb fallback plan, Roach told me. Khan in Dubai is something Roach has heard, he told me.

Me, I like that match, I like the backstories, I like how Khan is fighting, I like how his chin is holding up, though I do miss the fear-factor that was present when he was fighting a few years ago, and his chin was still iffy. Roach seems to be on board in the same way…

We talked about Khan’s new look, which has come after working for a long spell with Virgil Hunter. To good effect, no? Yes, Roach said, the pairup with Virgil suits Amir. No doubt, he said, and he doesn’t feel dissed that Khan is resurgent with Hunter tutoring him, after a few years with Roach. “I didn’t want Khan standing in the pocket that long,” Roach explained to me. “I wanted him out because he has very good speed. But we couldn’t get him to do that all the time. So he’d get knocked out. See, Virgil has him throwing the combination, and then grabbing a lot. It works for Khan, but it makes for a little bit more boring fight. For him, it’s not a bad move for him, though.”

Roach said last fight Khan wasn’t such a Grabby Cathy, and he’s a super athlete..but in about twenty or so sparring sessions at Wild Card, Freddie said, Pacman had Khan to the mat twice. “Flash knockdowns, he got right up and finished the round, that happens…I’m not saying that makes Manny better, but I think Manny is the smarter of the two fighters.”

So, it’s not a 50-50 fight to you, is it?

“Nah,” Roach said. “Seventy thirty for Manny.”

And, if you hadn’t worked with Amir before and he didn’t sort of bust on you on his way out the door, what might it be?

“It might be fifty fifty,” said Roach, grinning widely, bless his humble soul.

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COMMENTS

-pikon :

I would like to see Maidana next....What Floyd could not do to Maidana, Pacman would do it..The fans wanted to see KO or TKO...


-Radam G :

YUP! The scrap can be in Dubai. And Da Manny would beat Amir Khan's arse. Amir is such a two-faced jack. And at the top-of-the-line-courage, he will always lack. He couldn't handle a single Pacman attack. Amir "The Great(less) Khan is boksing dyslexic, and is always headed down the wrong track. He is so darn easy to crack. Now since that Money May won't dance with him, about Da Manny, he wants to talk smack. He doesn't know how badly his lack of game, Da Manny will crack. Somebody ought to tell that boy that he is dealing with a hauz of horror, not a country-size shack. Holla!


-Froggy :

I would like to see Maidana next....What Floyd could not do to Maidana, Pacman would do it..The fans wanted to see KO or TKO...
I like your thinking pikon, Mayweather was saying why fight Pacquiao after he had 2 losses ? Well after Pacquiao does to Maidana what Mayweather could not do, what will he say ?


-Radam G :

I like your thinking pikon, Mayweather was saying why fight Pacquiao after he had 2 losses ? Well after Pacquiao does to Maidana what Mayweather could not do, what will he say ?
That Da Manny is on a type of new roids -- "Bird Net Soup." Hehehe! Holla!


-Froggy :

That Da Manny is on a type of new roids -- "Bird Net Soup." Hehehe! Holla!
The soup of Champions, with strong stomach's !


-mpk :

manny to fight garcia


-deepwater2 :

manny to fight garcia
I would enjoy that fight . Manny would be the lineal 140 champ if he wins. Another feather in his cap.


-Froggy :

I would enjoy that fight . Manny would be the lineal 140 champ if he wins. Another feather in his cap.
You definitely know your stuff Deep, but do you really think "IF" ? I know it is the theater of the unexpected, but "IF" ?


-rdv_27 :

Could a fight with any of these three happen? And please no w/ Maidana, I like Maidana, if the chances of him getting koed vs Pacquiao are high, I'd rather not see that fight. I still get angry at that (intentional?) Broner punch after the bell, more than a year later lol. But I don't think Pac would ko him, at worst prob boss him around like he did Rios, but I see Chino as being a few levels above Rios, so even that's hard to see. But I don't have the pugilistic knowledge of some of y'all TSS luminaries so I can't really say...


-Radam G :

Could a fight with any of these three happen? And please no w/ Maidana, I like Maidana, if the chances of him getting koed vs Pacquiao are high, I'd rather not see that fight. I still get angry at that (intentional?) Broner punch after the bell, more than a year later lol. But I don't think Pac would ko him, at worst prob boss him around like he did Rios, but I see Chino as being a few levels above Rios, so even that's hard to see. But I don't have the pugilistic knowledge of some of y'all TSS luminaries so I can't really say...
Wow! Hehehe! TSS luminaries? Holla!


-rdv_27 :

Lol, I'm showing respect (too much?). Some of you guys really really know your stuff. The rest of us are learning from you guys.


-rdv_27 :

I know... I'm being too formal and s*** haha.


-deepwater2 :

You definitely know your stuff Deep, but do you really think "IF" ? I know it is the theater of the unexpected, but "IF" ?
I have to say if until it happens. It's easy to see. Weight drained Garcia would stay on his back foot waiting to counter hook PAC . In the meantime PAC would combo him and stop him. It would be good for PAC to move down and stop Garcia . The fighter of the decade has a few more special fights left.


-The Good Doctor :

I have to say if until it happens. It's easy to see. Weight drained Garcia would stay on his back foot waiting to counter hook PAC . In the meantime PAC would combo him and stop him. It would be good for PAC to move down and stop Garcia . The fighter of the decade has a few more special fights left.
Agreed but I don't think that Pac would have to be special to beat Garcia. I don't give Danny as much side eye as a lot of people do but any true fan has to admit, Danny has had too many skin of his teeth fights and boxing dictates that if you live like that long enough, you will get beat. If in fact Pac and Garcia do fight, I do think it would go the route because of Swift's grit, but he would get bludgeoned.


-Radam G :

Agreed but I don't think that Pac would have to be special to beat Garcia. I don't give Danny as much side eye as a lot of people do but any true fan has to admit, Danny has had too many skin of his teeth fights and boxing dictates that if you live like that long enough, you will get beat. If in fact Pac and Garcia do fight, I do think it would go the route because of Swift's grit, but he would get bludgeoned.
Ageed! But leading up to the fight would a show for the ages with PacMommie D and Crazy Papa Angel working every hex known to humanity and talking jivy smack. Holla!


-deepwater2 :

Angel would blow a gasket and sizzle out


-brownsugar :

I think Pac has too much muscular density for Garcia at any weight. Pitting the two together would be like staging a demolition derby between a humvee and a pickup truck constructed out of balsa wood.. I think Garcia has the skills but I doubt he has the resilience to withstand the withering assault he'd receive from PAC. 1 year from today both Pac and his nemisis Floyd Mayweather will be like a pair of ripe avacodoes ready to go soft. Timing is everything in boxing. ....and a year from now everything changes..... Garcia has time on his side.


-brownsugar :

I think Pac has too much muscular density for Garcia at any weight. Pitting the two together would be like staging a demolition derby between a humvee and a pickup truck constructed out of balsa wood.. I think Garcia has the skills but I doubt he has the resilience to withstand the withering assault he'd receive from PAC. 1 year from today both Pac and his nemisis Floyd Mayweather will be like a pair of ripe avacodoes ready to go soft. Timing is everything in boxing. ....and a year from now everything changes..... Garcia has time on his side.
Oh my bad....I was thinking of Mikey Garcia....another boxer who has been mentioned as a possible opponent


-Skibbz :

YUP! The scrap can be in Dubai. And Da Manny would beat Amir Khan's arse. Amir is such a two-faced jack. And at the top-of-the-line-courage, he will always lack. He couldn't handle a single Pacman attack. Amir "The Great(less) Khan is boksing dyslexic, and is always headed down the wrong track. He is so darn easy to crack. Now since that Money May won't dance with him, about Da Manny, he wants to talk smack. He doesn't know how badly his lack of game, Da Manny will crack. Somebody ought to tell that boy that he is dealing with a hauz of horror, not a country-size shack. Holla!
RG I disagree, I think Amir would be a tougher fight for Manny than Floyd. Floyd would sit back and look to time Pac so Manny will be offered the initiative, and that's how he likes it. Against Amir, they're going to be competing for the initiative for 12 fast paced rounds with little let up. Amir is the younger and faster of the two in my opinion. Sure Manny dazzles with is hand speed but have you forgotten what just happened to Alexander? He got taken apart in one of the best boxing displays of the year, absolutely sublime performance and not too many expected such high calibre boxing from Amir after his recent form in the ring. He's also the taller of the two with much longer reach, the only guys who's Pac's fought who had similar height and reach advantages were over the hill, brawlers or Algieri. Amir is none of those and in his corner is none other than Virgil Hunter! Let's not forget the experience he's had with Wild Card.. There won't be any surprises for him. I would love to see Pac Floyd, but if it can't be made Amir vs Pacman would be a better fight if you take the needle out of the equation. Oh and don't forget all that Pac's got on his plate with his duties outside of boxing!


-Radam G :

RG I disagree, I think Amir would be a tougher fight for Manny than Floyd. Floyd would sit back and look to time Pac so Manny will be offered the initiative, and that's how he likes it. Against Amir, they're going to be competing for the initiative for 12 fast paced rounds with little let up. Amir is the younger and faster of the two in my opinion. Sure Manny dazzles with is hand speed but have you forgotten what just happened to Alexander? He got taken apart in one of the best boxing displays of the year, absolutely sublime performance and not too many expected such high calibre boxing from Amir after his recent form in the ring. He's also the taller of the two with much longer reach, the only guys who's Pac's fought who had similar height and reach advantages were over the hill, brawlers or Algieri. Amir is none of those and in his corner is none other than Virgil Hunter! Let's not forget the experience he's had with Wild Card.. There won't be any surprises for him. I would love to see Pac Floyd, but if it can't be made Amir vs Pacman would be a better fight if you take the needle out of the equation. Oh and don't forget all that Pac's got on his plate with his duties outside of boxing!
I have seen no improvement -- just covert-ism [sic] -- in Amir with the "Whisperer" Hunter. Amir has a physical deformity -- some people would say physical feature among his ethnicity -- where he can only move his stiff neck and head loosy-goosy in only one direction. This is something that a lot of people don't know about Amir. There are and have been a lot of boxers with physical deformities, but they kept it secret until they were finished with the game. And on other pugs, you just knew by being in the game and seeing them attempting to hide this and that and hide this and that and hide this and that one too many times. But from certain professional eyes, you cannot hide. They know how you ride and why you go to this and that side. Oh, NOPE! You cannot hide. In my professional opinion, both Money May and Da Manny will blast Amir [The reveal Greatless] Khan outta there. Even Kell Brook and Shawn Porter would abuse him. Holla!


-Skibbz :

I have seen no improvement -- just covert-ism [sic] -- in Amir with the "Whisperer" Hunter. Amir has a physical deformity -- some people would say physical feature among his ethnicity -- where he can only move his stiff neck and head loosy-goosy in only one direction. This is something that a lot of people don't know about Amir. There are and have been a lot of boxers with physical deformities, but they kept it secret until they were finished with the game. And on other pugs, you just knew by being in the game and seeing them attempting to hide this and that and hide this and that and hide this and that one too many times. But from certain professional eyes, you cannot hide. They know how you ride and why you go to this and that side. Oh, NOPE! You cannot hide. In my professional opinion, both Money May and Da Manny will blast Amir [The reveal Greatless] Khan outta there. Even Kell Brook and Shawn Poster would abuse him. Holla!
Radam I went to try and find a clip of Amir Khan demonstrating some rotation of his neck other than the to and fro.. It seems you were on the money as usual....
That said (and seen) if he fights the right style he will pose problems for Pacquiao that he hasn't faced for a long long while. I forgot to mention that I think pushing Pac onto his backfoot is the best way to beat him, but you've got to be able to keep that pressure on for 12 rounds and I think Amir can... but the thing is will he avoid getting clipped?


-Radam G :

Radam I went to try and find a clip of Amir Khan demonstrating some rotation of his neck other than the to and fro.. It seems you were on the money as usual....
That said (and seen) if he fights the right style he will pose problems for Pacquiao that he hasn't faced for a long long while. I forgot to mention that I think pushing Pac onto his backfoot is the best way to beat him, but you've got to be able to keep that pressure on for 12 rounds and I think Amir can... but the thing is will he avoid getting clipped?
There are a lot of secrets about Amir's anatomy that many fans and fighters don't know. Fighters and trainers are generally secretive and don't tell exacts. If I were gossiping Tom, WOW! But I'm not even a peeping Tom. Hehehe! Holla!