Roach On What He Thinks Main Reason Floyd Hasn’t Embraced Manny Fight

Freddie Roach was asked what he thought was the top reason why we haven’t seen Floyd Mayweather go after that Manny Pacquiao fight with gusto, sending a message with words and deeds and actions that he wants to give the fans what they want, this Super Fight. Me, I have thought over the course of the last four or so years that Floyd simply doesn’t want to renew acquaintance with his ex promoter, Bob Arum, with whom no love was lost–or found, actually–when they parted ways in 2006.

For that reason, more than any other, I thought he harbored some hesitance which made him not seem to truly want to embrace the mega-match with Pacquiao. Why? Because he didn’t want to help line the pockets of a guy he didn’t dig…to put it mildly.

Roach told me he has another choice for impediment number one in Floyd’s mind: his undefeated record. Others share that sentiment…ex HBO boss Seth Abraham dealt with Floyd on his way up the ladder, and was struck by the importance “Money” attached to a stain-free record. Dedham Freddie, besides, wondered aloud when we chatted the other day if it isn’t actually Arum and Floyd advisor Al Haymon who have a mutual enmity thing going which serves to help keep The Fight from getting to the finish line.

“The record is VERY important to him, the record, that’s the most important thing…but (Floyd does think he will beat Pacquiao), oh yeah, of course,” Roach said when we pondered why Floyd hasn’t moved heaven and earth to book the biggest money-maker the fight world has ever known. Still a mystery to me..and hell, all but about four people on this planet, right? I mean, if Floyd thinks he beats Manny, doesn’t that fear of the loss of the 0 lessen? Anyways…

“The thing about that fight is, we know Floyd’s the A side,” Roach continued. “Negotiations shouldn’t be that hard. Showtime and HBO have (co-produced a megafight) once before.”

Makes sense, does Dedham Freddie. But you can’t make sense of a mystery in which only limited clues are available and the stories offered by the players change all the time. Your guess, reader, is as good as mine as to why Pacquiao-Mayweather hasn’t been made….

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COMMENTS

-artjd :

The reason is simple. You can compare Floydie to an actor who does lot of B movies. Almost all his fights are comparative to B movies as Floydie is averse to doing quality movies since he can't pass the scrutiny of movie critics. A fight with Pacquiao is like a blockbuster movie, both in box office and critical acclaim and Floydie doesn't want any part of it as critics will see his amateurish ways.


-pikon :

he said it all over that his health is the most important of all...


-pikon :

The only reason why the mega fight is not happening is FEAR...."Fear is a human emotion that is triggered by a perceived threat". .and the threat is Manny Pacquaio...


-brownsugar :

The fight should happen, it's the biggest and only true super event out there, that fact cannot be reasoned away.


-tonyastro :

He wants to beat Marciano's record of 49-0 so he needs 3 slow opponents. But when he gets there he'll think why should he risk losing the 0 when he could just retire undefeated. So my point, the fight will NEVER happen... like I've always said. While we're on the topic here's what I suggest for fight purses. Since ppv numbers are determined by the quality of opponents why don't we base ppv cuts on common opponents: Pacman vs: ODLH 1.25M Fatton 1.28M Marquez 1.41M Mosley 1.3M Cotto 1.25M = 6.49M Maynever vs: ODLH 2.4M Fatton .85M Marquez 1M Mosley 1.4M Cotto 1.5M = 7.15M PERCENTAGE CUTS: MAYNEVER 52% PACQUIAO 48%


-Radam G :

Lil Floyd is getting ?o?k$ure that he can beat Da Manny. And Lil Floyd is becoming brainwashed to have no fear. Getting this bout is very near. I'm just hoping that Lil Floyd does not again become like a trapped-in-headlight deer. Make the bout. And Da Manny knocks Lil' Floyd out. Let's be quite clear. Holla at how vulnerable Money May is.
->http://m.YouTube.com/watch?v=DJwa9pGpD1Q. Holla!


-stormcentre :

Lil Floyd is getting ?o?k$ure that he can beat Da Manny. And Lil Floyd is becoming brainwashed to have no fear. Getting this bout is very near. I'm just hoping that Lil Floyd does not again become like a trapped-in-headlight deer. Make the bout. And Da Manny knocks Lil' Floyd out. Let's be quite clear. Holla at how vulnerable Money May is.
->http://m.YouTube.com/watch?v=DJwa9pGpD1Q. Holla!
I usually ride with you on many things/predictions RG. Much love for your game, street cred, and forum presence. However, I am not sure Pacquiao takes Mayweather if the fight is made. I know Pacquiao's southpaw stance, speed, tenacity, work rate, and some of his other attributes are kryptonite to Mayweather's powers. But, also, Pacquaio has almost no defence coming in, and I am not sure if he has ever fought someone that can pick him off (at distance) as he comes in; there is almost always a (right hand) shot down the pipe there for anyone with the balls, composure and speed to execute it - as Manny comes in low looking to step to the side and throw the straight left. Your thoughts on whether Manny has faced anyone that can possibly do this as good as Floyd (possibly) can?


-Radam G :

I usually ride with you on many things/predictions RG. Much love for your game, street cred, and forum presence. However, I am not sure Pacquiao takes Mayweather if the fight is made. I know Pacquiao's southpaw stance, speed, tenacity, work rate, and some of his other attributes are kryptonite to Mayweather's powers. But, also, Pacquaio has almost no defence coming in, and I am not sure if he has ever fought someone that can pick him off (at distance) as he comes in; there is almost always a (right hand) shot down the pipe there for anyone with the balls, composure and speed to execute it - as Manny comes in low looking to step to the side and throw the straight left. Your thoughts on whether Manny has faced anyone that can possibly do this as good as Floyd (possibly) can?
If you closely observe, Money May also has no defense coming in either. Da game is full of optical illusions. Notice how 95 percent of the time Money May gets tagged or drilled when he's coming in. All the times that he was knocked down or hurt, was when he was coming without-defense in. But dude is smooth with conning unsuspecting eyes. And mentally making you believe that he is near flawless. Dude is more of a con artist than television psychics telling gullible, hurt people about their dead relatives. It is nearly impossible to hit Money May when he slows the pace, stand around or angle away at 45 degrees. But when he steps to you, he squares up with slap jabbing, stiff arming, left elbow flaunting and Amerkano-football shooting and bear clawing crossing with the right hand and kangaroo hooking with the left. Dude is a city slicker, but he tries to be animalistic jungle. Da Manny is going to show that City con artist how dat jungle-animal-fronting arse is going to get tore up. For Money May, it is going to be a tragic. Da Manny is going to end the Pops Joy Mayweather's boot-legged, front-yard-taught-shoulder-roll magic. Money May fools many with inattentional blindness, distortion blindness and distraction blindness, but he will not be able to do any of that to Da Manny. For his work is too uncanny. Talk is Money May. He and the whole Fam May knows with Da Manny he cannot stay. Have doubts! But one again, the victory will easily go Da Manny's way. Then all the haters with mystic communications of what Money May will do to Da Manny, will change their tunes to: "Money May fought Pacquiao at the wrong time. Five years ago, the fight would not have been a contest. And Mayweather probably would have stop Pacquiao. But Floyd got old over night." YUP! The Amerkano way. They always coulda, woulda, shoulda won. But... They will not be accepting of Da Manny beating Money May no matter if they fight or not. I know that a lot of people favoring Money May are not AmerKanos, but when U.S. America sneezes, most of the world caught a cold. But it is psychosomatic. Let that be told. Holla!


-stormcentre :

If you closely observe, Money May also has no defense coming in either. Da game is full of optical illusions. Notice how 95 percent of the time Money May gets tagged or drilled when he's coming in. All the times that he was knocked down or hurt, was when he was coming without-defense in. But dude is smooth with conning unsuspecting eyes. And mentally making you believe that he is near flawless. Dude is more of a con artist than television psychics telling gullible, hurt people about their dead relatives. It is nearly impossible to hit Money May when he slows the pace, stand around or angle away at 45 degrees. But when he steps to you, he squares up with slap jabbing, stiff arming, left elbow flaunting and Amerkano-football shooting and bear clawing crossing with the right hand and kangaroo hooking with the left. Dude is a city slicker, but he tries to be animalistic jungle. Da Manny is going to show that City con artist how dat jungle-animal-fronting arse is going to get tore up. For Money May, it is going to be a tragic. Da Manny is going to end the Pops Joy Mayweather's boot-legged, front-yard-taught-shoulder-roll magic. Money May fools many with inattentional blindness, distortion blindness and distraction blindness, but he will not be able to do any of that to Da Manny. For his work is too uncanny. Talk is Money May. He and the whole Fam May knows with Da Manny he cannot stay. Have doubts! But one again, the victory will easily go Da Manny's way. Then all the haters with mystic communications of what Money May will do to Da Manny, will change their tunes to: "Money May fought Pacquiao at the wrong time. Five years ago, the fight would not have been a contest. And Mayweather probably would have stop Pacquiao. But Floyd got old over night." YUP! The Amerkano way. They always coulda, woulda, shoulda won. But... They will not be accepting of Da Manny beating Money May no matter if they fight or not. I know that a lot of people favoring Money May are not AmerKanos, but when U.S. America sneezes, most of the world caught a cold. But it is psychosomatic. Let that be told. Holla!
Hmmm . . . OK. Cool response. I know I have extensively written about the issues Floyd's style would have with a fast lefty like Zab Judah - but one that had no stamina, chin, composure, and other issues. So . . . . let me run back into my cave, bang a drum to my wenches, throw a deer on the fire, and think about whether I need to respond and if so, then what should I scribe on the wall - for the archeologists that follow thousands of years later - to read; in relation to these sensationally, supercharged revelations that are in no way a double does of diabolical deception. Batman.


-DaveB :

Radam, Don't tell all the secrets. Please wait for Mayweather to sign the fight first. You're gonna run him away if he gets wind of this.


-Radam G :

Radam, Don't tell all the secrets. Please wait for Mayweather to sign the fight first. You're gonna run him away if he gets wind of this.
Don't worry about it. Money May has been advised by idiots as of late. With destiny, he's darn close to making a date. He is now letting his mind fool his soul and behind. He is actually beginning to believe the hate-talking-head Stephen F.Smith, Buffalo wings-stealing, human-punching bag Big Nates and his delusional Pops Joy May that he will "pick" Da Manny apart and "rape" him and knock him out in less than six rounds with Money May's long-time latent flawed-style of fighting, Da Manny has and aways have had the key to Money Macy's self-proclaimed Mayvinci Code. Money May is a now a brainwashed soldier that a lot of jingoistic fans, May family and ethnic-group members are sending on a suicide mission of wishing to bring down the global lovable "PacMan." But a shinny-teethed, grinning "PacMan" is going to "puck up" -- Tio Mamoy's thoughts -- Lil' Floyd like the grinning "Unforgivable Blackness" Jack Johnson did ago Triple J a 105 year ago. Don't tryto pull some modern-day political correction bull jive on me, dudes and dudettes. This is the more divisive scraps between ethnicities since Triple J and "Big Smoke" Jack Johnson. Holla!