SOG vs. GGG: The Second Best Fight to Be Made In 2015

If we’re being completely honest, 2014 was not a great year for marquee match ups in the squared circle. While many of the best fighters in the game took to the ring last year, the best of them seldom took on someone their own figurative size. Kovalev, Golovkin, Mayweather, Pacquiao, etc., all took on fighters beneath their station (Pac/Algieri, Golovkin/everybody), just about over the hill (Kovalev/Hopkins), or someone they had already beat (Mayweather/Maidana).

As we crest the New Year, we are again filled with hope over the Lucy and the football scenario that has become Mayweather/Pacquiao. To be sure, that is the fight most fans want to see. We’ve certainly waited well beyond the point of Job-like endurance. Pacman has engaged the Money Man in a way he never has before, so hope springs eternal, I suppose.

Still, while we continue to hope against hope that Mayweather will finally give us what we want (does that ever happen, by the way?), there is one other fight I would put on the Floyd/Manny level. Maybe not in terms of glitz and cachet, but definitely in regards to competitiveness and potential hardcore fight fan pleasure.

That would be Gennady Golovkin vs. Andre Ward.

A matchup of the electrifying Triple G vs. the SOG has tremendous potential. Golovkin (31-0, 28 KOs) has steamrolled his way through a succession of lesser competition and is ready for a big step up. Ward has been out of the ring for 11 months, but has proven himself to be a great fighter with high quality wins over Carl Froch, Arthur Abraham, Mikkel Kessler, and Chad Dawson. None of which was particularly close. If Ward can finally loosen himself of his dispute with Goossen promotions and get back in the ring, the two fighters can provide each other with something they both want and need.

In the case of Golovkin, he has to be as tired as we are of watching him blow through opponents like a full force gale. It’s not his fault, of course. No one wants to fight the ferocious Kazakh. Still, if Golovkin wants to graduate to PPV fights, he needs better scalps in his bag. A February 21 fight against Brit Martin Murray is fine enough, but it doesn’t get him where he wants to be. Not even close.

In the case of Ward, the long layoffs have affected his standing in the world of boxing. The former Olympic gold medalist may be at his physical peak, but it’s slipping away. Ward was on the precipice of graduating to PPV bouts himself until his disappearing act. Now both men have arrived at remarkably similar plateaus, even if they reached them in completely different ways.

To be clear, there are significant hurdles to getting this fight in before year’s end. Ward has to get free of his contractual issues and Golovkin would have to be willing to move from middleweight to Ward’s super-middleweight level. As well, Golovkin wants to be a PPV star, and he wants it now. It’s unlikely that a fight with Ward would go beyond pay cable and into the PPV stratosphere.

Golovkin just as recently as Christmas stated he wants to hold off on Ward and instead focus on a fighter with PPV potential after his likely dispatching of Murray. Namely, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Golovkin told Round by Round Boxing, “Yes, for pay-per-view fight. Chavez Jr, he’s a pay-per-view fighter. Andre Ward, he’s not a pay-per-view fighter. Maybe in the future, yeah.” While GGG is correct that a scrap with Chavez Jr. would quite possibly do well on PPV, I find this endlessly depressing. The idea of Golovkin making a fight with the relentlessly undisciplined Chavez Jr., in a fight where the biggest bit of drama will probably be whether Chavez Jr. can make weight or not is deeply unsatisfying. That is the world we live in, though.

Still, I believe all is not lost. If Golovkin handles Murray and the presumed Chavez Jr. with the ease I expect him to, that could still leave room for a third fight in the calendar year for GGG–who likes to keep busy (3 fights in 2014, 4 in 2013). Besides, Ward will likely need and want a tune up or two before exchanging pleasantries with Golovkin. In my sweetest of dreams, this would place a potential SOG vs. GGG fight somewhere in November or December. That would be one hell of a way to close out the year.

Can you imagine the furious fists of Gennady Golovkin going up against the toughness and guile of Andre Ward? If both fighters are in peak form, the contrast in styles could create a fight for the ages. The aggressive, high volume approach of GGG vs. the counter-punching and boxing skills of Ward? The mouth salivates just thinking of it. It should for both fighters too. Whoever would walk out of the ring with their arms held high would make a powerful statement. For Golovkin, it would take his potential to fruition. He would be able to say he has fully arrived. For Ward, it would say “meet the new boss, same as the old boss.” These are results both fighters have to crave.

For us fight fans, it would be a bountiful feast. And one we richly deserve after the sparse buffet pickings of 2014.

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COMMENTS

-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Some you of you can follow me when I say, "if "if" was a "fifth"we would all be drunk." The article is contingent on too many "ifs."


-sumopop :

It's no less reasonable than May/Pac, Shoulder Roll. Let me know when people stop talking about that. I'll wait.


-dino da vinci :

I'd like to be on record as saying this is the best possible fight 2015 has to offer.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

It's no less reasonable than May/Pac, Shoulder Roll. Let me know when people stop talking about that. I'll wait.
I hear where you are coming from, I'm just tired of holding my breath for these big fights. However, if GGG vs. Ward gets made I think it will be a one sided fight. Ward is a master boxer with a quality chin and underrated "infighting" ability. Let's also not forget that he is naturally the bigger man. Ward 8 rounds to 4 by unanimous decision if the fight ever gets made.


-sumopop :

I would favor Ward as well, Shoulder Roll. Assuming his heart is still in fighting and not too much dust has collected. It is okay to want things though. :)


-stormcentre :

If it's not the best fight for 2015, then it's up there and possibly only eked out by one other big match-up. Not a bad write up but . . . ""in a fight where the biggest bit of drama will probably be whether Chavez Jr. can make weight or not is deeply unsatisfying"" Should be changed to . . . . ""in a fight where the biggest dramas will probably be (a) whether Chavez Jr. can make weight or not , and (b) what round Golovkin uses sleeping pills in either hand to put Chavez to sleep; is deeply unsatisfying""


-sumopop :

Solid, Stormcentre. Solid.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

If it's not the best fight for 2015, then it's up there and possibly only eked out by one other big match-up. Not a bad write up but . . . ""in a fight where the biggest bit of drama will probably be whether Chavez Jr. can make weight or not is deeply unsatisfying"" Should be changed to . . . . ""in a fight where the biggest dramas will probably be (a) whether Chavez Jr. can make weight or not , and (b) what round Golovkin uses sleeping pills in either hand to put Chavez to sleep; is deeply unsatisfying""
Chavez jr. is a human punching bag. A Rubio with a pedigree and slightly better skills. GGG will have no problem cleaning out the current middleweight division, but I can name 2 or 3 jr. middleweight fighters that would give him fits if they moved up to 160. Chavez's bloated non-training a$$ needs to go up to cruiserweight lol.


-stormcentre :

Chavez jr. is a human punching bag. A Rubio with a pedigree and slightly better skills. GGG will have no problem cleaning out the current middleweight, but I can name 2 or 3 jr. middleweight fighters that would give him fits if they moved up to 160. Chavez's bloated non-training a$$ needs to go up to cruiserweight lol.
Go ahead.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Go ahead.
If Lara or Andrade moved up to 160 their styles would present problems for GGG stylistically. He has been cutting off the ring on cadavers and punching bags, I'm not impressed. At 168 there are simply bigger men with better skills that would be a bit too much for my main man GGG. Ward, DeGale, and Andre Dirrell would all potentially take him to school.


-gibola :

How's it better than GGG v Canelo or Cotto at 154-160? It figures to be a dull, jab, grab, push him into the ropes, take no risks points victory for Ward (who is the much bigger man). Id rather see SOG v Kovalev or Stevenson (who fought most of his career at 168). Would you really rather see SOG fight Golovkin than Kovalev or Stevenson? As for it being the 2nd best matchup in boxing - I'd rather watch Khan v Thurman than SOG v GGG. More entertaining and any result possible. GGG v Canelo or Cotto is what we should be asking for.


-stormcentre :

Yeh - OK. Agree with you in relation to Ward and Dirrell. Not sure about Andrade and Lara though - but then you're only saying their styles would present problems for GGG stylistically; not that they would beat him. And on that point, I think Lara would present issues for 3G - more than Rubio and some of the guys Golovkin has been fighting lately. Dirrell certainly would - but I just don't know if Dirrell would get gun shy once he started to feel the shots sink in. For all his brilliance, speed, elusiveness, mastery over time/space, and switch hitting (the cat is very, very slick); personally I am still not sure how well Andre (I assume you're not talking about Anthony) Dirrell holds a shot from the big dawgs yet. Anthony seems to hold shots better, but is not as slick. Anthony and 3G would probably be a good entertaining fight - perhaps more pleasing to the eye than (his brother) Andre - but (chins aside) Andre would probably trouble 3G more. That said, Golovkin would more than likely get to Andre Dirrell where it hurts, and whilst his feet were not properly under him, much more than Abraham did; unless Andre has matured a bit since the super 6 tourney. Saikio Bika and 3G would also be a firecracker. Not sure about Andrade - but he'd have to be better than Rubio and some of the guys 3G has fought lately.


-stormcentre :

If Lara or Andrade moved up to 160 their styles would present problems for GGG stylistically. He has been cutting off the ring on cadavers and punching bags, I'm not impressed. At 168 there are simply bigger men with better skills that would be a bit too much for my main man GGG. Ward, DeGale, and Andre Dirrell would all potentially take him to school.
Yeh - OK. Agree with you in relation to Ward and Dirrell. Not sure about Andrade and Lara though - but then you're only saying their styles would present problems for GGG stylistically; not that they would beat him. And on that point, I think Lara would present issues for 3G - more than Rubio and some of the guys Golovkin has been fighting lately. Dirrell certainly would - but I just don't know if Dirrell would get gun shy once he started to feel the shots sink in. For all his brilliance, speed, elusiveness, mastery over time/space, and switch hitting (the cat is very, very slick); personally I am still not sure how well Andre (I assume you're not talking about Anthony) Dirrell holds a shot from the big dawgs yet. Anthony seems to hold shots better, but is not as slick. Anthony and 3G would probably be a good entertaining fight - perhaps more pleasing to the eye than (his brother) Andre - but (chins aside) Andre would probably trouble 3G more. That said, Golovkin would more than likely get to Andre Dirrell where it hurts, and whilst his feet were not properly under him, much more than Abraham did; unless Andre has matured a bit since the super 6 tourney. Saikio Bika and 3G would also be a firecracker. Not sure about Andrade - but he'd have to be better than Rubio and some of the guys 3G has fought lately.


-Scar :

I'd like to see GGG perform at Super Middleweight as a professional before going for Ward. As long as he's staying in the weight division his body is mostly comfortable in then that's good news, moving up for money and only money is rarely a wise decision in the sport.


-deepwater2 :

We can't even mention the names of Ward or Chavez Jr until their legal problems are behind them. They are boxers that can not get in the ring until they straighten out their situations. Top Rank still has JCJ under their banner for one more fight and JCJ is trying to have tsAH negotiate without them. Arum will not let that fly and everyone knows it. Ward tried suing Goosen Tutor and came up short each time,what a waste of time and money,now he is being sued by Goosen's estate,who wants their father's name cleared. Floyd has no legal problems that we know of at this time. Pac has been on record saying he will basically sign any contract put forth.No problems with these two being able to get into the ring. PAC vs Floyd can be made very easily if Both fighters wants it. Any Ward or Chavez Jr fight is impossible to make at this time due to ongoing legal issues. I say take Chavez Jr off of any P4P list just like Ward until he is able to be active again. Ward will need a tuneup fight if he ever does step back into the ring so I don't see a Ward vs GGG fight this year.


-thegreyman :

By far the best fight that could be made in 2015, if not this generation. Gennady will force the fight, and it will be a test of wills and skills with the blood flowing. I dont see the same thing happening with Pacquiao Mayweather unfortunately.


-The Commish :

Years ago, when there were fewer divisions, fewer sanctioning bodies and less talk of catchweight fights (where the lower-weight fighter comes up a few pounds and the higher-weight fighter comes down a few), boxing was so much simpler. Fighters were built from four-round and six-round clubbies into co-featured eight-round pugs into 10-round, main event status. Then they became contenders. Believe it or not, the contenders actually fought each other. Sometimes they'd face each other in, not only rematches, but in rubber matches, as well. When a fighter became a champion, he was champion of that weight class. Bantamweight champions defended against bantamweight contenders, lightweight champions defended against lightweight contenders, middleweight champions defended against middleweight contenders and so on. When age and nature took over, and making the required weight limit became too difficult, when shedding even one more pound became an impossibility, the fighter moved up. Additional weight classes were created to accommodate them: Super flyweight. Super bantamweight. Super middleweight. Cruiserweight. With all this talk I hear that Gennady Golovkin should move to Super Middleweight or even Light Heavyweight, I keep thinking one word and asking myself this: "Why?" When Carlos Monzon ruled the middleweight division between 1971 and 1977, he was never looking to step up and face his friend Victor Galindez, who owned the WBA Light Heavyweight Title, or even WBC Light Heavyweight king John Conteh. He could have, but he didn't. Nor did journalists and fans push him to do so. When Marvelous Marvin Hagler was middleweight king, he took on--and defeated--all his opponents. Not once did I ever hear talk of Hagler moving up to face Light Heavyweight Champion Michael Spinks, or Dwight Muhammad Qawi or Matthew Saad Muhammad. True, if a champion of one division decided to step up and face the champion of the next division, he most likely would be afforded the opportunity to do so. The great welterweight champion Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles, who was handling most of the welterweight division (except for an off-night against Billy Backus) with ease, decided he could beat Monzon. Shortly before the fight, Monzon came into New York City. I sat down with him for an interview. "Napoles is crazy to think he can beat me," Monzon said through an interpreter, "Crazy! I am far too big and strong for him." Monzon was right. He owned Napoles, stopping him in the sixth round. He also owned the holder of the WBC's middleweight title, the vastly-talented Rodrigo Valdes, and did so twice. After that second defeat of Valdes, and with no more world's or opponents to conquer in the middleweight division, Monzon retired. There would be no comeback. Will someone please tell me why Monzon and Hagler, two of history's all-time great middleweight champions, were never pressured into moving up and Gennady Golovkin, who is doing his best to prove himself as a great middleweight champion, is constantly being besieged to face--not the top middleweight contenders--the toughest jr. middleweights, super middleweights and even light heavyweights. Why don't we just let GGG prove he is the supreme middleweight champion and let history take it from there. I'm actually happy that Hagler and Monzon did not step up. I will be just as happy if GGG stays right where he is. Bring on February 21. Bring on Martin Murray. -Randy G.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Yeh - OK. Agree with you in relation to Ward and Dirrell. Not sure about Andrade and Lara though - but then you're only saying their styles would present problems for GGG stylistically; not that they would beat him. And on that point, I think Lara would present issues for 3G - more than Rubio and some of the guys Golovkin has been fighting lately. Dirrell certainly would - but I just don't know if Dirrell would get gun shy once he started to feel the shots sink in. For all his brilliance, speed, elusiveness, mastery over time/space, and switch hitting (the cat is very, very slick); personally I am still not sure how well Andre (I assume you're not talking about Anthony) Dirrell holds a shot from the big dawgs yet. Anthony seems to hold shots better, but is not as slick. Anthony and 3G would probably be a good entertaining fight - perhaps more pleasing to the eye than (his brother) Andre - but (chins aside) Andre would probably trouble 3G more. That said, Golovkin would more than likely get to Andre Dirrell where it hurts, and whilst his feet were not properly under him, much more than Abraham did; unless Andre has matured a bit since the super 6 tourney. Saikio Bika and 3G would also be a firecracker. Not sure about Andrade - but he'd have to be better than Rubio and some of the guys 3G has fought lately.
Not only the styles of the aforementioned boxers, but also their boxing abilities would be a problem for GGG. I would put up the house that Ward would defeat GGG and I believe that Lara and Andre Dirrell would have a better than 50% chance. Let's just say I would put down money on them winning by decision. Andre is by far the more gifted boxer in comparison to his brother Anthony. There aren't too many switch hitters in the game that are elite, but he is one of the best (Crawford & DeGale are also elite). DeGale and Dirrell will probably end up fighting each other if Froch vacates the IBF title.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Years ago, when there were fewer divisions, fewer sanctioning bodies and less talk of catchweight fights (where the lower-weight fighter comes up a few pounds and the higher-weight fighter comes down a few), boxing was so much simpler. Fighters were built from four-round and six-round clubbies into co-featured eight-round pugs into 10-round, main event status. Then they became contenders. Believe it or not, the contenders actually fought each other. Sometimes they'd face each other in, not only rematches, but in rubber matches, as well. When a fighter became a champion, he was champion of that weight class. Bantamweight champions defended against bantamweight contenders, lightweight champions defended against lightweight contenders, middleweight champions defended against middleweight contenders and so on. When age and nature took over, and making the required weight limit became too difficult, when shedding even one more pound became an impossibility, the fighter moved up. Additional weight classes were created to accommodate them: Super flyweight. Super bantamweight. Super middleweight. Cruiserweight. With all this talk I hear that Gennady Golovkin should move to Super Middleweight or even Light Heavyweight, I keep thinking one word and asking myself this: "Why?" When Carlos Monzon ruled the middleweight division between 1971 and 1977, he was never looking to step up and face his friend Victor Galindez, who owned the WBA Light Heavyweight Title, or even WBC Light Heavyweight king John Conteh. He could have, but he didn't. Nor did journalists and fans push him to do so. When Marvelous Marvin Hagler was middleweight king, he took on--and defeated--all his opponents. Not once did I ever hear talk of Hagler moving up to face Light Heavyweight Champion Michael Spinks, or Dwight Muhammad Qawi or Matthew Saad Muhammad. True, if a champion of one division decided to step up and face the champion of the next division, he most likely would be afforded the opportunity to do so. The great welterweight champion Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles, who was handling most of the welterweight division (except for an off-night against Billy Backus) with ease, decided he could beat Monzon. Shortly before the fight, Monzon came into New York City. I sat down with him for an interview. "Napoles is crazy to think he can beat me," Monzon said through an interpreter, "Crazy! I am far too big and strong for him." Monzon was right. He owned Napoles, stopping him in the sixth round. He also owned the holder of the WBC's middleweight title, the vastly-talented Rodrigo Valdes, and did so twice. After that second defeat of Valdes, and with no more world's or opponents to conquer in the middleweight division, Monzon retired. There would be no comeback. Will someone please tell me why Monzon and Hagler, two of history's all-time great middleweight champions, were never pressured into moving up and Gennady Golovkin, who is doing his best to prove himself as a great middleweight champion, is constantly being besieged to face--not the top middleweight contenders--the toughest jr. middleweights, super middleweights and even light heavyweights. Why don't we just let GGG prove he is the supreme middleweight champion and let history take it from there. I'm actually happy that Hagler and Monzon did not step up. I will be just as happy if GGG stays right where he is. Bring on February 21. Bring on Martin Murray. -Randy G.
Jumping from middleweight to light heavyweight is a big deal when you factor in the rehydration factor. Going up from 154 to 160 or 160 to 168 not so much. In an ideal world GGG cleans out the middleweight division and moves up to 168 to truly test how great he is.


-Carmine Cas :

If GGG is serious about attaining super middleweight supremacy he should fight Chavez first, then give Andre Dirrell the opportunity to exact some Olympic revenge, and THEN challenge Ward for all the marbles. If I were GGG's handlers I would not just throw him in the ring with the former #1p4p fighter. Let him make money and adjust to new weight class by fighting Chavez and Froch. And then really test his pro skill against Dirrell. IMO Ward is just too fast, intelligent, and skilled for GGG.


-Carmine Cas :

But it would be a marquee match up none the less


-Froggy :

But it would be a marquee match up none the less
It definitely would be and they both better have at least one tune up fight !


-gibola :

Agree with The Commish. Why the pressure to fight guys with silly size advantages? I say to GGG - be the best middleweight champ you can be, it's been enough for a lot of all time greats and it'll be enough for you. All this stuff about proving him greatness at 168 is nonsense. He proves it where he is at his natural weight. Why isn't this thread about Ward proving his greatness at 175 where there are marquee opponents, one (Stevenson) who spent virtually his whole career at 168? If moving up is so vital for GGG why not for SOG?? I would really prefer Ward being the best 168lb-er he can be and he doesn't do that by beating on guys who can probably make 154. There are lots of fights for him - the Dirrells, DeGale, Chavez, Groves, Froch 2 and a new generation of contenders will arrive too. If you remain champ long enough the top-10 turns over and over and new challenges arrive. Back to GGG, Martin Murray is an excellent fighter, a very tough guy and the best available contender willing to fight, I'm happy with the matchup.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Agree with The Commish. Why the pressure to fight guys with silly size advantages? I say to GGG - be the best middleweight champ you can be, it's been enough for a lot of all time greats and it'll be enough for you. All this stuff about proving him greatness at 168 is nonsense. He proves it where he is at his natural weight. Why isn't this thread about Ward proving his greatness at 175 where there are marquee opponents, one (Stevenson) who spent virtually his whole career at 168? If moving up is so vital for GGG why not for SOG?? I would really prefer Ward being the best 168lb-er he can be and he doesn't do that by beating on guys who can probably make 154. There are lots of fights for him - the Dirrells, DeGale, Chavez, Groves, Froch 2 and a new generation of contenders will arrive too. If you remain champ long enough the top-10 turns over and over and new challenges arrive. Back to GGG, Martin Murray is an excellent fighter, a very tough guy and the best available contender willing to fight, I'm happy with the matchup.
Murray is a journeyman and to be honest the middleweight division isn't that deep of a division. If GGG is all about the Benjamins he will try for a marquee match up at 160, preferably Cotto & Canelo and then move up to 168 to fight other marquee fighters such as Ward. Ditto for Ward, get you legal situation handled and see if you can get GGG to come up to 168 to fight or fight fat boy (Chavez jr.). If he can't get marquee fights such as Chavez or GGG, he should move up in weight and dissect Stevenson and Kovalev. These days purse earnings and legacy go hand in hand and it behooves a prize fighter to follow the money trail.


-deepwater2 :

Murray is better than a journeyman .He received a split draw against Sturm in Germany and lost by 3 points against the p4p middleweight at the time in his homecoming in Argentina. At middleweight GGG can fight Andy Lee or Billy Joe Saunders in the USA,England or Ireland and sell out any Arena. He can fight show me the money Quillin in NYC. He can fight Cotto right before the Puerto Rican day parade. He can fight knockout artist David Lemieux. All of those fights will put millions in his accounts and his legacy will grow. GGG knows that as he grows his legacy the money will pour in.


-Froggy :

Murray is a journeyman and to be honest the middleweight division isn't that deep of a division. If GGG is all about the Benjamins he will try for a marquee match up at 160, preferably Cotto & Canelo and then move up to 168 to fight other marquee fighters such as Ward. Ditto for Ward, get you legal situation handled and see if you can get GGG to come up to 168 to fight or fight fat boy (Chavez jr.). If he can't get marquee fights such as Chavez or GGG, he should move up in weight and dissect Stevenson and Kovalev. These days purse earnings and legacy go hand in hand and it behooves a prize fighters to follow the money trail.
No argument here, but Murray is one hell of a good journeyman, I would pick him to beat Cotto ! As for Ward, in my mind he is not even in the picture until he steps in the ring again, against SOMEBODY, but I am not holding my breath for Ward to step back in the ring ! Late in the year if at all !


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

Murray is better than a journeyman .He received a split draw against Sturm in Germany and lost by 3 points against the p4p middleweight at the time in his homecoming in Argentina. At middleweight GGG can fight Andy Lee or Billy Joe Saunders in the USA,England or Ireland and sell out any Arena. He can fight show me the money Quillin in NYC. He can fight Cotto right before the Puerto Rican day parade. He can fight knockout artist David Lemieux. All of those fights will put millions in his accounts and his legacy will grow. GGG knows that as he grows his legacy the money will pour in.
Murray is a B/B+ fighter and I respect him, but I don't know if he can even beat Haymon's limited main man (Kid Chocolate). Outside of Canelo, it doesn't make since to fight any of the non-belt holders at 160. If I was advising GGG and the plan was to stay at 160 the goal would be to unify all the belts (Cotto, Jacobs, Lee). I believe Cotto has the ring magazine belt, which still holds a lot of weight with the die hard boxing fans and boxing community. His handlers should have pushed that potential fight harder. I would much rather see him fight Jacobs than Murray. As of press, I believe Jacobs is still available. However, I know Haymon 's plan is to match Kid Chocolate against Jacobs.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

No argument here, but Murray is one hell of a good journeyman, I would pick him to beat Cotto ! As for Ward, in my mind he is not even in the picture until he steps in the ring again, against SOMEBODY, but I am not holding my breath for Ward to step back in the ring ! Late in the year if at all !
Really, Murray beats Cotto? You are lucky that I am not Boricua lol.


-Carmine Cas :

That's a great point Commish, and that's how it should be. But the issue is that the other champions at 160 are reluctant to meet GGG, although he has beaten solid contenders IMO but I don't see Cotto and Taylor lining up to fight him. And at the time Quillen, IMO did not want share the squared circle with him either while he had the WBO. Although I can see brave Andy Lee challenging GGG and Lemeiux backing up his challenge to GGG, which would be a barn burner (but Camille Estephan seemed a little reluctant. But for those reasons, GGG is kind of pushed to go up to 168 because the other elite middleweight fighters are not giving him a shot. If he can get fights with Chavez and Froch, he should take the money and come back down to 160.


-sumopop :

A whole lotta cranking by a buncha guys who I'm quite sure would love to see that match up come off.


-Shoulder Roll Defense :

That's a great point Commish, and that's how it should be. But the issue is that the other champions at 160 are reluctant to meet GGG, although he has beaten solid contenders IMO but I don't see Cotto and Taylor lining up to fight him. And at the time Quillen, IMO did not want share the squared circle with him either while he had the WBO. Although I can see brave Andy Lee challenging GGG and Lemeiux backing up his challenge to GGG, which would be a barn burner (but Camille Estephan seemed a little reluctant. But for those reasons, GGG is kind of pushed to go up to 168 because the other elite middleweight fighters are not giving him a shot. If he can get fights with Chavez and Froch, he should take the money and come back down to 160.
Taylor is about to go to the pen without a belt because Sergio Mora will more than likely out point him next month. Taylor and Mora shouldn't even fit into the GGG equation because the IBF champ will be nothing more than a paper champ. GGG's management should aggressively pursue the ring magazine champ after the Murray bout, which will be the winner of the of the Cotto vs. Alvarez fight. Many of the late great/current champs have moved up in weight in order to pursue greater revenue and respect. GGG will eventually have to move up. I give him a year or two max at middleweight before he is forced to move up due to various reasons.