Manager Estephan Targeting Cotto or Canelo As Next For Lemieux

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“He's the white Tyson,” a most enthused, and, I think, understandably so, manager Camille Estephan told me on Monday afternoon, the buzz of the Brooklyn beatdown still in his veins.

He'd seen his kid David Lemieux shed questions galore, and, if not quite conjure images and notions and potential PPV grosses along the lines of Kid Dynamite, throw himself violently into the middleweight mix with the topmost names in the game.

“We have to be humble,” Estephan said, a few breathes after making the Tyson utterance and again, you can forgive the guy, because, after all, HBO's Max Kellerman had lobbed the “G” word, Golovkin, at the model-faced stone-fisted Lemieux, now 33-2 (31 KOs; holds the NABF 160 title) after he scored a TKO10 win over journeyman-contender Gabriel Rosado, the Philly-tough hitter who needed to be saved from his own stout heart as Lemieux was basting him malevolently, leading up a perhaps imminent uglier climax than the 6,500 plus fans in the arena were handed.

“Golovkin, it's not about whether that's an easy or hard fight, or if Lemieux is ready…he's ready…it's about finances. This is a business!” Estephan told me. He threw some names at me which are, in fact, right now, more marquee, from a track-record and earning-power standpoint–two guys who he thinks are better nexts for his kid than is Triple G.

“Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez,” he told me, after I asked who he's thinking of for the kid, whose left hook stood out, by virtue of the damage it did on Rosado (21-9), who's been in with top guns Golovkin, Jermell Charlo, and Peter Quillin. “The guy I want is Cotto, the WBC middleweight champion. David is ranked number two by the WBC and number one Martin Murray fights champion Golovkin in February. I want Cotto, and then if he's not available, then Canelo. Really, we are equally interested in either. With either, we'd be very, very happy.”

Love to hear such talk, a manager talking not about “we'll see who's out there,” but instead “bring on the best and brightest, because my guy is more than ready.” Love it….

“HBO is very happy, they want to see David again, we all want to see him again,” Estephan continued. I noted that Cotto advisor Gaby Penagaricano told me just a day before that talks were ongoing for a Cotto-Canelo fight, but the teams weren't close to a deal. Might he want to throw the Lemieux hat into that ring?

“At this stage, there are only a few guys the networks will accept,” he stated. “And we know it's a business. We know Cotto vs Canelo can be a huge money maker. That precedes us. But if that doesn't come off, then they know we're around. And we want either…or maybe both.” Yep, Estephan is still on a that cloud, after seeing his guy leap from “who dat” status in the minds of many to “must see” to those self same folks.

Yep, Estephan believes in the power of the kid, who turns 26 on Dec. 22, and who was working from the fourth round on with a lesser right hand, because his hand was hurting him. Golovkin isn't someone Team Lemieux is fearful of, I don't get the sense–check out how he chuckles when I brought up the fearsome Kazahk–but Estephan seems to like the idea of letting Golovkin's rep build that much more, and also having a wider section of the fight fans get to know his guy a bit more as well. He wants that fight to be “justified,” he told me, and he thinks that will be the case even more so after the media continues to spread the word on the demo job a patient and powerful Lemieux did on the Philly rumbler.

“Many people have just seen him once, and they all want to see him again…but if (HBO) comes with an offer we can't refuse, then it's a different story,” said the manager, who will plot a plan with promoter Yvon Michel and the fighter after the holiday.

Speaking of stories, the enthused manager shared one which cracked me up. “After the fight, one of David's fans discovered David's mother,” he said. “Your son, he was born gifted…with thunder in one hand…and lightning in the other!” And she gave the only answer she could at the time: “Yes,” said the mother of the two-handed force.

“We're very happy,” the Canada-based Estephan said, in closing. “But there's more to show. He showed so much character and heart. A homecoming fight next is a possibility, but really, there is no single preference, just what is best for his career. We'll only know that when we know if Cotto is available, or Canelo…then we jump on that.”

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-brownsugar :

It makes sense... A ton of sense when the other option is Golovkin whom Lemieux jokingly refered to as Triple XXX. Lemieux was spouting a lot of tough talk after dismantling Rosado. I'm not a critic..... A boxer should be firing off a few fighting words given the profession their in. But be careful what you wish for. As of this moment in time I favor both Cotto and Canelo who are both a legitimate step above Lemieux in the experience department to break the confident Canadian down over 12 rounds. A win over Rosado doesn't nesessary mean the cocky Canadian has arrived but he's at least on the reserve guest list Make it happen, I'm sure it'll be worth the price of admission.


-stormcentre :

Lemieux did do a great job against Rosado. But (and I feel a bit bad saying this cause I don't like to jump on someone as soon as they lose; but, in my defence, I have said this before Rosado's last fight) Gabriel, particularly at world class level, really is quite limited, and I am pretty confident that most decently skilled contenders (like Lemieux) -especially those that have had a decent amateur career - know this. So . . . yes Lemieux did well. He actually did better (against Lemieux) than 3G. Whether there is more to that than meets the eye; who knows - probably. So . . yep . . feed Lemieux to Gennady and we will find out what and who is the real deal. My money is on 3G.


-Froggy :

Everybody, including HBO, seems to be in a hurry for a title fight, what's the rush ? He will be making more money than ever before without a title fight and he will only be 26 years old later this month ! I would like to see him have at least one fight against someone better than Rosado before a title fight !


-brownsugar :

Lemieux did do a great job against Rosado. But (and I feel a bit bad saying this cause I don't like to jump on someone as soon as they lose; but, in my defence, I have said this before Rosado a solast fight) Gabriel, particularly at world class level, really is quite limited, and I am pretty confident that most decently skilled contenders (like Lemieux) -especially those that have had a decent amateur career - know this. So . . . yes Lemieux did well. He actually did better (against Lemieux) than 3G. Whether there is more to that than meets the eye; who knows - probably. So . . yep . . feed Lemieux to Gennady and we will find out what and who is the real deal. My money is on 3G.
I like what you said there Storm.... and I'm not saying you are wrong and I am right...but I have a slightly different perception of the comparison between Lemieux and Golovkin. I think Golovkin beat Rosado a little more thoroughly than the Canadian did. Even though Lemieux probably "beat Rosado up" a bit more. And not saying this because GGG ended the fight sooner. Against Lemieux Rosado engaged more...he was confident and seem to show this with his body language by closing the gap frequently so he could unload his artillery, that he truly felt like the better man. He traded more and lingered in the corner more....there was a feeling that Gabe could turn the tide at any minute until the last couple of rounds. Against Golovkin, Rosado was in full retreat. He did have a couple of fleeting moments when he popped GGG a couple of times but the drama and excitement we saw during the Lemieux fight was totally absent in this fight. Golovkin could have been bagging groceries at local supermart. The fight contained little drama because GGG was in full control of nearly every second of every round. The only drama in the fight revolved around how long it would take for Brisco to leap onto the ring apron to save his man. Just my humble opinion... Good comments.


-stormcentre :

I like what you said there Storm.... and I'm not saying you are wrong and I am right...but I have a slightly different perception of the comparison between Lemieux and Golovkin. I think Golovkin beat Rosado a little more thoroughly than the Canadian did. Even though Lemieux probably "beat Rosado up" a bit more. And not saying this because GGG ended the fight sooner. Against Lemieux Rosado engaged more...he was confident and seem to show this with his body language by closing the gap frequently so he could unload his artillery, that he truly felt like the better man. He traded more and lingered in the corner more....there was a feeling that Gabe could turn the tide at any minute until the last couple of rounds. Against Golovkin, Rosado was in full retreat. He did have a couple of fleeting moments when he popped GGG a couple of times but the drama and excitement we saw during the Lemieux fight was totally absent in this fight. Golovkin could have been bagging groceries at local supermart. The fight contained little drama because GGG was in full control of nearly every second of every round. The only drama in the fight revolved around how long it would take for Brisco to leap onto the ring apron to save his man. Just my humble opinion... Good comments.
Yes, that's all good BS. In fact, I pretty much agree with you. And, truth be known, that was what my 3rd last sentence's caveat (in the post you replied to) meant. At the time I wrote it I couldn't be bothered with the technicalities of, despite how it appeared Lemieux did a better job on Rosado than 3G, how Gennady's work on Gabe was probably more damaging and the better of the two. I know, it's unlike me to shy away from the technicalities and a long post - but even I have another life. :) Anyway, whilst superficially it appears that Lemieux beat up Rosado better than 3G - there is a little more to how it "seemed" that Lemieux did a better job on Rosado than 3G. And some of the reasons why it "seemed" that Lemieux did a better job on Rosado than 3G, in my opinion is not only as you say - but also because; a) Many of Lemieux's most hurtful punches that were landed on Rosado were more obvious and/or explicitly damaging than 3G; but Gennady had Rosado hurting way more than his swollen left eye might suggest; courtesy of David's right hand. b) Furthermore, 3G had Rosado's face seriously painted all red unlike many other beat downs of recent times - and (as you rightly suggest) Rosado was a more live and less cautious opponent against Golovkin than with Lemieux. c) Also, the Rosado that showed up for Lemieux already knew what a beating tasted like, and once that taste was in his mouth/mind his consistency in the fight changed. Good call.