Speculation City: How Did The Pacquiao-Algieri PPV Do?

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Ah, yes, the American obsession with numbers. I semi deplore it, yet fall prey to it.

As I am right now, as I focus on the Pay Per View buy numbers for the Nov. 22 Manny Pacquiao-Chris Algieri scrap and card which unfolded in Macau, and was presented on pay-per-view…

How'd it do, many folks wonder…

Not sure yet. We are caught in Rumorville right now, in the speculation zone.

Top Rank was the promoter and TR boss Bob Arum hasn't yet gone on record with a figure. Some in the industry have started choosing to blow off releasing PPV numbers, because of the excessive speculation and analysis and criticism which abounds on social media and in columns by fightwriters who sometimes seem to think they know better than the programmers and promoters about best courses of action. (Also, a poor number is more likely to get buried than a great number…hey, human nature is what it is…Who wants to shout out disappointing news from the rooftops?).

Until Arum decides to part with the tallies, we are left to hearing estimates, from around 300,000 or so buys, to the higher end, under 500,000, maybe around 475,000, a bit less, perhaps, than the number the December 2013 Manny Pacquiao-Brnadon Rios fight/card, which also took place in Macau. (That's an apples to apples comparison, arguably, because a card which takes place in Macau doesn't receive the same US-centered attention as would a card unfolding in Las Vegas.)

The attention to PPV numbers is understandable, I guess, being that it can be seen as a measuring stick of the popularity of the sport, or Pacquiao…But part of the fascination edges into gossip, it could be argued. There is no shortage of people who would not be displeased if in fact Arum didn't make money on the Nov. 22 scrap, if the site fee he received from the Macau people, and his cut of monies from the PPV, and other streams, didn't end up leaving him a profit. That too is understandable, as this business is not a zero sum game, and folks are competitive, and sometimes/often/always, depending on your personality, exult in the failure of a rival.

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-brownsugar :

Early reports say around 300,000....and I was one of them. But this was expected. I know people have their favorites but I root for fights not promoters. When put together good fights we love em. When they promote stinkers we hate em. When a promoter is executing his job successfully we don't even know he exists because everyone is too busy talking about the fight. However I'm sure Arum received a tidy sum from the venetian. He's an astute business man so I'm sure he had deals in place to make sure his financial backside was covered.


-The Shadow :

Early reports say around 300,000....and I was one of them. But this was expected. I know people have their favorites but I root for fights not promoters. When put together good fights we love em. When they promote stinkers we hate em. When a promoter is executing his job successfully we don't even know he exists because everyone is too busy talking about the fight. However I'm sure Arum received a tidy sum from the venetian. He's an astute business man so I'm sure he had deals in place to make sure his financial backside was covered.
*cough cough $50 million cough*


-The Shadow :

And please, stop with the nonsense. The fight did 11.3 million. Everyone knows that. On a serious note, Canelo outdid that with Lara. And no, the fact that it was in China meant little from a PR standpoint. They got TONS of mainstream press, way more than any other fight I can remember. Chris Ali-gieri singlehandedly carried that promotion. The only newsworthy thing Pacquiao did from a promotional standpoint was go to the well and infuse you-know-who in a funny commercial. Canelo's a bigger draw now? Really? I'm sitting here writing up a media report for real estate trends in 2015. So here's my Pacquiao prediction for 2015: Talks will resume. Talks will fall apart. Boss man will blame you-know-why while slandering him in the press. Ultimately, Pacquiao fights Jessie Vargas in April and Terence Crawford in November.


-Radam G :

Not "11.3 million?" Apparently a Freudian typo, my friend. Maybe that amount in some Asian markets at $2 to $3 a shot on cell phones. Holla!


-The Shadow :

Not "11.3 million?" Apparently a Freudian typo, my friend. Maybe that amount in some Asian markets at $2 to $3 a shot on cell phones. Holla!
Nah, I was just being facetious. Do they charge $2/$3 on cellphones for content there? Hey, check this out:
->http://instagram.com/p/vpBGG_LIWn/?modal=true


-SouthPawFlo :

This Doesn't Mean that Pac isn't still a PPV star, it just means that Chris Al isn't... When I was talking up the fight and people would say who is Pac fighting, I would say "Algeri Who just be Beat Ruslan." "Well who is Ruslan?" "The Guy who Tim Bradley Beat in the FOY a couple years ago" Well who else has Algeri Fought, "uh he fought the guy who just got beat by Broner." And at this point I just gave up, I even tried to use Lomachenko as a undercard seller but I couldn't tell you who his opponent was that night and I watched the fight...


-deepwater2 :

CA was a hard sell to most people outside of NY. Hey at least they made some money. ESPN says CBS/Showtime lost 16 million for the two Floyd/Maidana fights. TBE The Best Excuse


-Froggy :

I fially know what TBE stands for, the best excuse !


-Radam G :

Nah, I was just being facetious. Do they charge $2/$3 on cellphones for content there? Hey, check this out:
->http://instagram.com/p/vpBGG_LIWn/?modal=true
I remember that picture well from back in da day. And YES! All over Southeast Asia, you can get c-phone PPV hookups of Da Manny's scraps for $2/$3. For American mainland PPV scraps, if you are not getting them on the American Forces Televison, you can get them on your c-phone for a buck or two. The U.S. mainland is as arrogant as heck, but behind most of the world in technological information and entertainment. Just as the Asian and Middle Eastern airports and speed train put the U.S.A. to shame, our technology mixed ancient traditions and customs kicks arse. Holla!


-Radam G :

This Doesn't Mean that Pac isn't still a PPV star, it just means that Chris Al isn't... When I was talking up the fight and people would say who is Pac fighting, I would say "Algeri Who just be Beat Ruslan." "Well who is Ruslan?" "The Guy who Tim Bradley Beat in the FOY a couple years ago" Well who else has Algeri Fought, "uh he fought the guy who just got beat by Broner." And at this point I just gave up, I even tried to use Lomachenko as a undercard seller but I couldn't tell you who his opponent was that night and I watched the fight...
Hehehehe! Wow! Funny as heck. I can see what you mean. Holla!