Tim Lane On The Loss To Manny, The Future For Algieri & the Cage Chat With Max

When they win, they win as a team. When they lose, well, all portions of the team get examined, with a proctologists’ thoroughness. As it was immediately after Chris Algieri proved to be too inexperienced for Manny Pacquiao on Nov. 22 in Macau.

What went wrong? And who is to blame? Fingers get pointed, tongues wag…and oftentimes, but of course, the head trainer gets a turn under the bright lights, for a session of the third degree.

Trainer Tim Lane got the treatment on social media as the bout progressed and in days after the scrap, which saw the Long Islander Algieri, whom he has known for 15 years, hit the deck six times. The treatment stemmed much from an exchange Lane had in round nine with Max Kellerman of HBO, who picked the tutor’s brain, and then was “rewarded” with a stunning twist of fate. Lane was telling Max that he was going to let his fighter out of his “cage,” turn him lose on The Congressman and just then, bang, a left hand sent the New Yorker on his tucchus. It was a jaw dropper moment, and not in a good way.

I talked to Lane on Saturday, a couple hours before HBO was to show the Pacquiao UD12 victory over the former kickboxer and future medical school student, who impressed so many with his unwavering confidence and willingness to promote the PPV clash in Macau. The trainer had arrived back in Vegas, his home, after spending Thanksgiving in Chicago, at his galpals’ place. He joked with me, when I asked him who I thought cooked a better feast, his lady and her crew, or Algieri, who has a way in the kitchen. “It’s a tossup,” Lane said. “Both, I’m sure, were great.”

Yeah, the trainer wasn’t all glum and sullen, and his overall message was that Algieri will be back, and that the showing in Macau had more to do with Pacman being in A game mode than anything else. Nope, he wasn’t battling Twitter morons who were coming up with cage memes, and seems to be dealing with the buzz in fine form.

“I wasn’t sure what was going on with (that “I still got him in the cage” soundbite situation) until later that night, when I went on Facebook, and saw some stuff. There’s still a lot of hating …but I live in the moment. I mean, I’m a red-headed step-child, who was born in Germany! I can handle this stuff. It doesn’t hurt.” Of the cage cracks, he said, “It is what it is.”

I told him I think it’s important to lean into such humorous occurrences, steer into the skid, as it were, be part of the joke. “Right..but I won’t laugh about it, because that was my boy getting hit. I’m not hating on anybody (who’s talking smack or Tweeting cage jokes). Whatever they say, that’s on them.”

He hadn’t yet watched the scrap on TV, and in fact, doesn’t get HBO, he told me. But he will snag the fight, and dissect it pretty soon, so he can figure out what could have gone better. “Being there was enough. But I will wait a couple days, and go over it,” he said.

He doesn’t second guess the gameplan, the strategy to down the Filipino icon, he told me. “I’m not a what if guy,” he said. “I’m comfortable with the strategy…Manny is a great fighter, and I didn’t think he’d come like that.” I told Lane, and fully feel this way, that on too many occasions fans and writers like to tear down and hammer the performance of the loser, rather than give full-on credit to the winner. That’s just the age we live in, and maybe has always been our human nature…I think there’s a large element of that going on as we examine this bout.

Lane told me he fully expects to be front and center for what he is certain will be Algieri’s return to the form he showed after the first round against Ruslan Provodnikov, in June. “Chris will be my brother the rest of my life,” Lane said. “I believe the team will stay intact. We know what we have to work on. Chris didn’t have the experience. And sometimes experience shows. I truly believed, if Manny wasn’t on his A game, we would have beaten him. We will keep this team together. And if there’s a change, we will speak about it together. I’ve been with Chris for 15 years, and we’ll be brothers to the end. Chris Algieri is a champion, who lives a champion lifestyle inside and outside the ring. We haven’t seen the last of him. Chris is the best student I’ve ever seen. And he learned more that night than any fighter could on any one night.”

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COMMENTS

-deepwater2 :

The rumblings of a desperate man.


-Skibbz :

Tim Lane's got an eastern philosophy and only seeks to project positive thoughts. Sometimes however it's the cold reality that we need, and the fact of the matter is coach lane in muay thai shorts shouldn't be the trainer of an aspiring championship level fighter. "I didn't expect manny to come out like this". Too much smoke often reduces visibility. - skibbz


-The Commish :

Tim Lane's got an eastern philosophy and only seeks to project positive thoughts. Sometimes however it's the cold reality that we need, and the fact of the matter is coach lane in muay thai shorts shouldn't be the trainer of an aspiring championship level fighter. "I didn't expect manny to come out like this". Too much smoke often reduces visibility. - skibbz
First, it was the cage quote. Now it's "I didn't think he"d (Pacquiao) come like that." Duh! Did Lane think Pacquiao was merely going to lay back, move, look to counter-punch and play defense? He didn't think Manny was going to "come like that"????? If that's true, a change within the camp is without question a necessity. "Brothers" or not. This is one brother who should not be alongside Algieri's biological brother, rooting for their guy from a ringside seat, not from in the corner. For the sake of Algieri's boxing career, hopefully a change is coming. -Randy G.


-Skibbz :

First, it was the cage quote. Now it's "I didn't think he"d (Pacquiao) come like that." Duh! Did Lane think Pacquiao was merely going to lay back, move, look to counter-punch and play defense? He didn't think Manny was going to "come like that"????? If that's true, a change within the camp is without question a necessity. "Brothers" or not. This is one brother who should not be alongside Algieri's biological brother, rooting for their guy from a ringside seat, not from in the corner. For the sake of Algieri's boxing career, hopefully a change is coming. -Randy G.
He's desperately wanting for celebrity. He will yap on to whoever will listen. He got hit with reality and it made him more deluded.. He can't be helped.


-Froggy :

Lane is not thinking straight, if he was and he wanted what was best for his "brother" he would step aside or at the very least get a BOXING trainer in as part of the team !


-Radam G :

Wow! Tim Lane has it bad. He is one fake-arse lad. The team started falling apart when they got rid of the original cut man, who help them get the gift decision of a lifetime in tSR scrap. How soon do we forget. Talking about focus. TL ought to admit that he is full of hocus pocus. And in boxing, hoping for magic to work will be tragic. TL is a myth dweller. And bullsyet seller. Right into your mug, he will blow smoke. And tell you not to worry about it because you won't choke. "I'm not going to let it out of the cage. " It doesn't yet have my permission to rage. "I'm the master of this stage. "Make sure that you put me on the front page." OMG! That is TL is far from a Sage. But he is a master bullsyeter that has increase Team Algieri's wage. And to that, I give it up to him. Go, Tim! You are now one of the boksing game's true bullsyeters. Holla!


-Radam G :

First, it was the cage quote. Now it's "I didn't think he"d (Pacquiao) come like that." Duh! Did Lane think Pacquiao was merely going to lay back, move, look to counter-punch and play defense? He didn't think Manny was going to "come like that"????? If that's true, a change within the camp is without question a necessity. "Brothers" or not. This is one brother who should not be alongside Algieri's biological brother, rooting for their guy from a ringside seat, not from in the corner. For the sake of Algieri's boxing career, hopefully a change is coming. -Randy G.
"Am I my brother's keeper?" This will be Tim Lane's next line. Hehehe! Holla!


-brownsugar :

Tim.and Chris set themselves up for all the heckling and jeckling... When a fighter makes grandiose Broner - like statements before the fight, they can expect the endless backlash of crow -meat flavoured retorts..its the same as pro wrestling fans who really hate the designated heel based on the fabricated story line alone. Other than friends and well wishers every body knew Algieri had no chance... Naturally fans are going to sound off.... They paid good money for the privilege. Its not like Tim and his protege didn't get a nice paycheck... Enduring the fallout is part of the business....The same way that Tim is sticking to the storyline is part of the business. These guys may be getting treated like dirt on Twitter but I guarantee you they're getting the first class treatment at the bank.


-Radam G :

Tim.and Chris set themselves up for all the heckling and jeckling... When a fighter makes grandiose Broner - like statements before the fight, they can expect the endless backlash of crow -meat flavoured retorts..its the same as pro wrestling fans who really hate the designated heel based on the fabricated story line alone. Other than friends and well wishers every body knew Algieri had no chance... Naturally fans are going to sound off.... They paid good money for the privilege. Its not like Tim and his protege didn't get a nice paycheck... Enduring the fallout is part of the business....The same way that Tim is sticking to the storyline is part of the business. These guys may be getting treated like dirt on Twitter but I guarantee you they're getting the first class treatment at the bank.
That is what happens when one resides in a land of lies -- d@mn lies:
->http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=ZQDQh0_-nDo. I best Tim Lane is well verse on this from childhood. He missed doing a whole lot of homework:
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_5Z7UhVjGA. Holla!


-amayseng :

When I saw Tim training Algeri barefoot and in muay thai shorts, well that is all I needed to know.


-brownsugar :

That is what happens when one resides in a land of lies -- d@mn lies:
->http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=ZQDQh0_-nDo. I best Tim Lane is well verse on this from childhood. He missed doing a whole lot of homework:
->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_5Z7UhVjGA. Holla!
Interesting choice in music RG....I like it.


-Froggy :

When I saw Tim training Algeri barefoot and in muay thai shorts, well that is all I needed to know.
Wouldn't you think someone would have mentioned to Lane and C-Al a long time ago that when you train for boxing, TRAIN FOR BOXING ?


-amayseng :

Wouldn't you think someone would have mentioned to Lane and C-Al a long time ago that when you train for boxing, TRAIN FOR BOXING ?
Exactly.